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[000:00:00;00] well, i'll say goodbye to you until friday. take care, uh, take care of yourself with espresso. now for your attention, a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news. good evening . we are from ukraine on the air. i am olga palamaryuk. reykjavik, where due to russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine for the fourth time in history , the council of europe has gathered and many important statements have already been made. macron announces the creation of a register of damages caused by russia, this paves the way for compensation. coalition of fighter jets to provide ukraine with f-16, and the president of the european commission, fenderlyan, called on the world to support zelenskyi's peace formula , why what is happening today
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in iceland is not just a meeting, but a meeting that can go down in history. the creation of a coalition for the purchase of fighter jets for ukraine is the result of a meeting between the british and dutch prime ministers and this was announced by the office of sumyk after the meeting was over , both countries and here, i quote, agreed that they will work on the creation of an international coalition to provide ukraine with a combat air potential, providing support in everything from training to the purchase of f16 fighter jets. well, the fact that britain, the netherlands, and also france have joined the so-called coalition of fighter jets in his evening address was announced by president zelenskyi macron, who later also stated the door to
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training ukrainian pilots in france is open. and addressing the members of the council of europe themselves, zelenskyy once again emphasized the need for 100% air defense in ukraine and called for fighter jets, that's why we couldn't shoot down most of the terrorists' missiles and especially the ballistic ones. and now i'm asking one thing, if we were able to do it , is there anything else we can't do, when we are united and determined to protect life , the answer is that you and i will give 100% in unity in any field, when the goal is to protect our people and our europe. we continue with the decisions made in the past years, a little later, and while the commentary of the bbc diplomatic correspondent james win is currently in kyiv, he follows all this
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international activity from the ukrainian capital at the beginning of this war, ukraine is asking for military planes, kyiv knows that control of the sky will play a decisive role in shaping this conflict in the future, and that is why in recent weeks there have been more calls for planes . as a result, the country receives more missiles, more drones , and training for pilots, but there are still no planes, zelensky received a little more diplomatic support from the british dutch prime ministers the prime minister agreed to the formation of an international coalition so that ukraine would receive f-16 military aircraft, why is there so much talk about these aircraft, they are quite ordinary aircraft, they have existed since 1970 and many countries have them, but most of the aircraft are owned by the americans and precisely therefore, it is important to get the consent of the united states. so, when
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european leaders start talking about a people's coalition, they mean the need to gather a sufficient number of european leaders in order to then to some extent put pressure on washington, which at the moment is clearly against providing such weapons to ukraine, for example, when on monday the spokesman of the white house for national security, john kirby, was asked whether america's position on this matter was changing, he only said no. anxiety about escalation is one of the reasons put forward by western leaders and officials who oppose it , saying that if the measure is allowed airplanes to ukraine, this will lead to escalation, this will lead to the fact that the west will be even more closely involved in the conflict , it will take time for pilots to be taught how to use airplanes, these are all the reasons that have been given so far, but it has been for weeks and maybe
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even with garbage, we talk about the possibility of a new ukrainian counteroffensive, and this counteroffensive involves the seizure of territory by ukraine, it involves the involvement of troops and also air battles, if russia deploys part of its air forces over ukraine, if the armed forces of ukraine cannot contain it , it will be much more difficult for them to start a counteroffensive and return certain territories, that is why a lot of attention is now being paid to this issue, that is why president zelenskyy is constantly talking about it, but when he was at a meeting with the british prime minister, zelenskyi was asked about the planes and he said that in the future there might be some kind of announcement. so, obviously , he hopes to achieve some progress in this matter, but no changes are yet visible in the position of the americans, which even before the summit of the council of europe, we have a fresh message from zelenskyi that with the final resolution, which contains a statement of political support for the peace formula of the council of europe, a rare current event
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, only the fourth in history, it was convened precisely because of the war unleashed by moscow itself providing further support to ukraine and restoring justice to the victims of russian aggression is the main goal of the meeting. and here is another important news from the fields themselves: 43 countries approved the agreement on the register of losses from russian aggression, which was proposed by the french president macron, the agreement paves the way for compensation, although they still have a mechanism agree expert of the council of foreign policy ukrainian prizma oleksandr kraev in touch oleksandr greetings, let's start with this agreement on the register of losses 43 states have approved , including all states or seven as far as it is seriously and not just a declaration, first of all, this is a very serious step, if only because it is really the first step towards bringing the russian federation to financial and economic responsibility for this aggression , that is, just before we had such conversations, we
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had this plan only at the level conversations only on the level of our diplomatic part of our diplomatic vector, now we see an absolutely clear awareness from among our partners that russia will pay reparations to ukraine, that russia must also pay financially for the aggression against ukraine and therefore so as this is the first such step, as it is the cement, as you correctly noted at the historical summit of the council of europe - it will really have more diplomatic weight than all previous instances of conversations about this, well, actually, about historicity, the very traditions of europe came on thursday, but frankly, the council of europe, especially after they returned russia for the first time, many experts said that the council of europe has lost a significant part of its authority, why is the current meeting important, first of all, it acquires importance
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due to the fact that this is a really rare event and a qualitative event for the unification of so many european states, in fact, for the unification of all the democratic parts of the continent in a certain unified political format , regardless of all internal dividing lines , therefore purely as a forum purely as a unifying matter for all european countries, this is already an important second step despite the fact that pari really had some bureaucratic difficulties regarding russia, we saw that pari was the first international institution that really recognized russia's actions as genocide, palia was the first institution where it was proposed to bring russia to international of responsibility, it was the first institution, one of the first, where the actions of russia were recognized as an act of aggression, in fact, a war against ukraine, therefore, in fact, the couple was a political transer regarding the condemnation of the actions of the russian federation against ukraine, and therefore, one way or another, but a voice forward for many european countries, in general, for the countries of the west is in many respects national and
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that is why it is important at least from a diplomatic and political point of view. does this mean that the council of europe has returned its authority? is really doing everything possible to show that there are decisions that are important , these decisions can be guided and as we can see now she pushed the third stage in general. she really uses all diplomatic means and you choosing the right date the right forum of the right participants so that her decision in fact, were key in some directions , for example, as you and i said in the context of reparations that russia will pay, i want to talk more about the formula of mir zelenskyi , the president of the european commission, and the course of the word fund deryan called on her to support er his initiatives find support, fortunately they find, we see that during his personal visits to the capitals of european states , during his speeches and especially during the work
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of our diplomacy, one way or another, but we see that together we are gaining more and more in some places even documented support for this peace formula. the fact is that against the background of the peace formula proposed by china and against the background of all the efforts of, say , turkey or saudi arabia to act as mediators in this dialogue let's call it that, the formula of the peace of ukraine is gaining more and more adequacy, it will really begin to look like a single format that can really not only end this confrontation, but also prevent the russian federation from repeating such aggression and again dragging europe into a vortex of full-scale war, therefore it is really more and more support oleksandr about aviation one of the first news exactly the council of europe so it is that britain and the netherlands lead a coalition of fighters but who will be the first to dare to give
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planes in your opinion and most importantly when i have the feeling that given the previous trends given the previous behavior it will be great britain in fact britain if the couple was a political transitor britain was a military transitor all the time of the full-scale invasion britain was the first to provide howitzers the first to provide multiple rocket systems the first to provide tanks the other countries of the western coalition were actually supporting britain britain actually couldn't give the most but it was always the first so it happened with long range missiles and i believe it will happen with fighter jets it can happen in fact, we are already talking about the near future, although the british are convinced that the planes should be there after the start of the counteroffensive, but we know that sometimes the western allies use such statements to hide the very facts of the provision of a certain type of weapons.
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the ice will break, the ice will break, it will actually already break, because let's not forget, the americans have already said that they will not be against the transfer of any number of their f16 aircraft by third countries, in addition , again, as in the case of britain, the americans will always deny to the very end any information that they are transferring a certain type of weapons, we saw this with the kaimars from the m3 sevens, even with the stingars in december 21st , until the very day of the transfer of the stingars , the americans refused to say for sure whether these weapons were really transferred to ukraine therefore, for now, i perceive it rather as a part of their informational cover-up, masking the fact of the transfer well, let's see if these are really your forecasts oleksandr thank you, expert of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma oleksandr kraev was on our broadcast only about airplanes when they can be given and why they are not given to you now. british analyst james rance on whether ukraine will be able to get the advantage
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in the sky is always hidden in the details. ukrainian pilots are used to flying old soviet aircraft models, they will have to switch to american f16 jet fighters and here comes the problem ukraine nato has enough problems with training its own pilots and they also need a lot of pilots and planes that practically perform tasks to protect their territory. so, when there are more details , we will have an understanding of how it will all happen. rishi's dream talked about pilot training, but i think that they will teach beginners to fly from scratch, and not just retrain pilots to fly on jet planes, we see that the point of view is gradually changing , western countries were very keen to avoid escalation, but during the last week great britain provided a storm of missiles
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that fly more than 250 km and this means that we crossed a certain line, how did the usa do it when they handed over the heimers, which have a range of 70 km, thanks to this, the ukrainian troops pushed back some russian headquarters and logistics bases, but i still don't know if this is really a turning point, so that's all we have time to talk about today, more stories search on our website bbc.ua on our pages in social networks youtube facebook tiktok and we will be on the air again tomorrow at 21:00 good luck and take care why am i here i have sensitive teeth eat ice cream
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greetings, you are watching svoboda life, daria kudimova is working in the studio, and more about the main thing, as of the evening of wednesday, may 17, the coalition of fighter jets for ukraine, what great britain and the netherlands , who led it, can offer, what poland offered, why germany refused, and who can participate in providing ukraine f16 all answers soon disappeared for a week and returned. lukashenko appeared in public, but belarusian citizens were already called to prepare for various scenarios, what changed during his absence. why is belarusian the opposition persistently seeks direct contacts with the ukrainian authorities elections despite the state of war in europe spoke about the need to hold parliamentary and presidential elections regardless of the end of the war how did kyiv react to this and is a hybrid variant of expression of will possible under conditions of long-term
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russian aggression russia decided to intensify its tactical offensive actions in the bakhmut region, despite the fact that ukraine concentrated there on local counterattacks , analysts of the institute for the study of war in the reports of the institute in particular mention that the day before, the so-called head of the self-proclaimed group of the dnr, denys pushylin, said that the russian army had strengthened its forces in the bakhmut area to stabilize the situation, in addition to the deployment of additional battalions on the flanks around the bakhmut, she was informed about the kremlin warlords. well, the counterattack for jesus under fire , the correspondents of radio svoboda saw it with their own eyes. yesterday we showed you an excerpt from their material from the front line, and today we bring to your attention the second part of it, what does a counterattack look like? the chest camera of the attack aircraft and what the russian prisoner tells
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the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine before his capture were also recorded by our correspondents maryan kushnir and serhii nuzhnenko. all the details are further.
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on that side , pull up the front line, guys , the grenade melted the right flank, it repeats. bring some grenades. kaiser, we clear all the holes. the first, the second, the third. let’s go. there are two. no, yes. now we are moving with the soldiers to the clearing from the right side
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. the right side. the right flank . where are we further? and you need to check if there are any russian soldiers there who could get stuck there in some holes, even so
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, the group is not going anymore , sit down, it’s great, we’re getting stuck here, move on , we managed to advance, take into account the known they even captured one soldier of the russian
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army. get out. get out . i told bilan, take off the armored car, come here, i said there are people here, in general, how many people are there in this trade fair? i am near the prisoner, he clarifies the information that there is no one else near him. he will live alone, you will live without evil, face to the ground, just men , we have all the bream, enough talk, documents , screeds, there are documents, come here , run with one hand, the men are here, here, here, that's all come on, give me the documents, i'm not your brother, come on, let's get up, follow me, put your hands behind my head, leave the documents with me , and
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it 's a problem, come on, i live in st. petersburg. they pulled out from there. here we were standing behind the lysichanskoye forest , here's what else was there. elya was brought here , they showed us the numbers, they said they would bring food , according to several conventions, you are guaranteed normal treatment of your choice, or you will go to exchange for ours prisoners of war tv station until the end of the war and then somehow you will be sent home as you want, you understand. i will remind you that you can watch the full version of the material with the front line during the offensive actions of the ukrainian army on the youtube channel of radio liberty, subscribe and do not forget to comment and frighten the material
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that you will watch well, next to our broadcast joins petro chernyk, a military expert , mr. peter. my greetings. good evening. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, mr. peter. well, despite the advance of the ukrainian army on the flanks under bakhmut, which we have been talking about for the last few days, the situation remains difficult here as well. do you think it is possible to leave the city with simultaneous fortification at the positions near bakhmut, or vice versa, here the russian army will be forced to withdraw from bakhmut, and how do you predict the development of the events of kulin, which is incredibly dynamic and it is a complex phenomenon. it is very, very difficult to give an accurate forecast. how are you doing, how will the combat actually take place, especially around this strategic point called bakhmut, it is actually a very important point u yes no for the russians, it already has a question of principle to take it because there are so many personnel and forces placed there that they cannot retreat, well, for them, it is like a bone in the throat , even their blacksmith and terrorist horking said that such stalingrad, on the contrary, i will remind you
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that they lost it during bezligrad strategic initiative lost this battle and from that moment the great panternat began tactical situations can be very diverse i have 100% trust in our military command and how things are in reality we will see the truth i don't want to get ahead of the situation, i want to mention the interview of our head of the intelligence department, mr. bogdanov, who said that 80% of what prigozhin says is true, in particular , that the wagnerites are one of the most well-prepared soldiers, although earlier we talked about the fact that in these most prepared military years of wagner are almost no longer at the front because they are constantly recruiting new ones, what do you think at the expense of which wagner can remain the most prepared troops in the russian-ukrainian war debatable the question that you can really talk about is the training and quality of the army, they have quite a lot of combat experience in various
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combat areas of the african continent of the middle east, and really the most prepared troops are not in ukraine now. they are all in the central african republics in sudan , so in other places, does wagner have a rather extensive system of training, but in general the philosophy of training a modern russian soldier does not withstand a single cage , the second army of the world has demonstrated that its strategic military model is not capable of giving challenges in the 21st century are stuck under the bachmouth wagner resets and is moving towards its disaster and this is really good news , but we remember that absolutely all russians are bad for us is it the regular army is it the so-called mobilized is it the wagners is it or is it or some other forces it doesn't matter to us, they are bad in silence, peter, we are now talking a lot about the coalition of fighter jets for ukraine, in particular, after the news of the statements that appeared today, we will
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talk about this in more detail in this issue. what i want to ask about is if they don't give ukraine an f16, and if it's not really such calculations, then what can be an alternative to such modern fighters, the line of fighters of our allies is quite large, not only the f-16 - there are very good swedish jazz-39 uah, there are german panavia tornados there are french rafale networks as well as a joint european eurofighter typhoon however, i am sure that we are getting good aviation and most likely it will still be f16 why is it the most massive machine out of 4.5 thousand in the world they are made in 25 countries operators and any country that is ready to replace, let's say, denmark, its f16 machines with more modern f-35s, can already take them to us in ready-made configurations and not wait until you make planes specifically for ukraine under the contract for these machines, their production was concluded
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until 2030, will this ice melt? let's go from the opposite ice to the requests in june of last year, the ice will melt further in extra-ordinary rocket competitions, such as patriot nasamstarivski, especially patriot, also melted and did not break a lot of information and media spears in february this month around the tank coalition at least 300 modern tanks we will receive that and ask ourselves natural and logical questions and why should it be any different with aviation if even long-range packages with tom sedu-stone shadow have already arrived and are probably already working , this will become the question only when and in what quantity? did you mention denmark, which is ready to replace its most modern fighter jets, because there are many such countries, because poland in the last statement said that it could be ready to provide 29 in the future, but not yet in 16, because
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in itself germany has said what will happen to focus on other aid, which was already focused on except for denmark, france, great britain and the netherlands, which announced their participation in this coalition. what other countries can join, taking into account their military weapons, if even these countries hand over at least a dozen machines, denmark will already have a lot weapons within the range of 60 machines , let's say belgium said that it is ready to train our pilots, but belgium has also declared that in the next few years it will change its machines within the range of 50 r16 to the f-35, but we already have the work package is a very interesting moment, purely informational and psychological. if they say that they will give, then there is already an expert assessment somewhere about their real movement in our direction . they just said that there is more. well, they just arrived or will arrive . and the russians are already reporting what they say they even that is, the philosophers were knocked down by the fact that if it moves, then it can already work if there is such a huge information flurry around this issue, then
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most likely strategic decisions have already been made, i will emphasize once again, i do not know when and how but it will definitely be, well, i wanted to clarify about the coalition of destroyers. do you agree that not only european countries and those western partners who are already actively helping us, such as countries like australia, because i i read an article where they talk about the australian air fleet. they say that this country has great opportunities to help us with fighters. 100% share this point of view . the rammstein platform includes more than 50 countries, every country that is part of this the working international instrument of the anti-putin and in fact anti-russian coalition is capable within the limits of validity, a factor of agreements, and a good dozen of them have already taken place, to provide the weapons they can and deem necessary in the strategic context , ukraine is now as pumped with weapons as any other

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