[000:00:00;00] and that's why he doesn't want to annoy the russians in a certain way, because if they had this so-called union without borders in quotation marks, it 's so there. well, there are many problems inside, and this is also one of the reasons why they don't call it a war. but all- the first reason is that he still sees china. if he were in ukraine, after all, through the prism of his confrontation with the deflated sex of america. of the chinese media, or the crisis, as expressed by high-ranking officials. is it important for beijing to also form public opinion on this issue, yes, of course, the opinion has already been formed and, let's say, the vision itself , the chinese vision of the conflict , it was transmitted. it was these narratives of the chinese vision of the conflict that were transmitted

both in the mass media and in social networks and in educational institutions and so on, that is, china controls these standards of vision control. if, in the first place, he still emphasizes for the internal audience, then he emphasizes that it is global conflict and this conflict. if he could decide to resolve it. he has a certain solution, and here is china, he acts as a peacemaker who offers a constructive solution. certain caricatures there, what is there, for example, the west is spreading like fire, providing military aid and so on . that is, it looks like, in principle, from a point of view, it looks generally uh, well, phantasmagorical, that is, it looks generally comical, but for the chinese

for the domestic audience, this is important considering that china has to keep this huge mass of the chinese people. it has to keep it in such a state of mobilization, considering the confrontation with the usa specifically on the asian side on the asian flank. that is, it is taiwan , the south china sea, and so on. therefore, it is also very it is important to draw such a parallel between nato and aukus, because august , this is the chinese, specifically points out that it is if they also have probably there. the chinese types write and we talk a lot today and understand that the topic of the liberation of crimea has become active in the western media and that in china they think about this matter so far in relation to crimea, they do not exist specifically in it at all, but i would say that certain such analytical posts they say that crimea here er in the chinese peaceful in the chinese peaceful plan or in the chinese peaceful proposal it should be if quoted or before it or before

it china should apply should offer certain hong kongist hong kong scenario yes that is, this may be a transitional period for crimea, something like that, so i think that crimea is very important for china, considering that it is the black sea. this is logistics, and this is also another logistical point through which one train can pass one way, that is, from c- from the east of asia to the west to europe , we heard mr. peter. thank you very much for joining the broadcast. petro shevchenko, an analyst from china , was in direct contact with us. information about the situation was provided by representatives of the president's own office, as well as government officials, even the head of the main directorate of intelligence, kyrylo budanov, in the official report it is said that the head of the president's office, andriy yarmak, and the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro

koleba, spoke in detail about the 10 points of mir zelenskyi's formula, kostyantyn eliseyev is extremely empowered ambassador of ukraine deputy minister of foreign affairs of ukraine joins the broadcast of mr. kostyantyn my greetings good evening i congratulate you, translating from the diplomatic language, so to speak, what does such a briefing mean for the delegation of china, this briefing means that the ukrainian side wanted to inform china in russia about the aspects of the russian war against ukraine, and secondly, the consequences that it has not only for of ukraine for the entire civilized world and try within the framework of this briefing to find those opportunities where china could help us or connect, well, in particular, pay attention to the briefing about the situation at the zaporizhia nuclear power plant.

the idea is quite promising from the point of view of connecting china and from the point of view of ensuring security at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, it is very important that they talked about the forcible deportation of ukrainian children here , too , china could play its positive role well, and also about the exchange of prisoners it is also important about the grain initiative, because it concerns the global world and food security of the world, and that is why, in my opinion, it is exactly these specifics that they tried to drag down china through small but concrete steps to reduce the problems that currently exist from the point of view of humanitarian food and drag china to the point of making it impossible to involve china in military aid to russia i think that of course this is an important visit of course it

does not mean that china has already sided with ukraine, but at the same time, this visit showed that china is now concerned with the fate of russia, and putin personally understands that due to the expected counteroffensive, russia will be defeated without options, and therefore , of course, china tried to, as they say, to find out what consequences the ukrainian counteroffensive will have for the russian side because china is quite worried about the fate of putin and in my opinion it is very important that china is next, the chinese representative will go to poland, berlin and france and in my opinion this will help them get a complete picture of what is happening well, of course, there is a point of contact that unites our positions, it is not the closeness of the principle of sovereignty and territorial integrity of states in accordance with the un charter. i

think that it is also quite active in this regard the ukrainian side played instead. please note that unlike many of the majority of the delegation, the majority of the foreign delegation and the representative of china, as i understand it, refused to visit, for example, such important places as bucha irpin in order to see with my own eyes the atrocities of the russian occupiers, and also note that there was no laying of flowers and honoring to the memory of ukrainian heroes at the wall of memory is to ask mr. kostyantyn, let me, well, i just wanted to ask . why didn't they get lucky on the day of the drawing? do you still think that there was such an offer, but from the chinese refused it correctly, i understood you definitely . there was such an offer. as far as i understand, the chinese side refused such an idea after consultation , for example, probably with a spiikin sizinnym and so on, but to witness such a visit is a day of patience and

laying flowers for beijing to highlight the fact that china er-er recognizes er - the aggressive nature of the russian war and the fact that china is really concerned about the fact that russia is seizing or trying to seize and buy ukrainian territories but china decided to behave rather so gently decided not to annoy moscow and save more bridges for negotiations with russia, so don't forget that after his european tour, it's not china who intends to visit moscow, so we'll see further, mr. kostiantyn, you mentioned that this is putin's destiny and what is his most relevant or attractive from a political point of view, if such a term can be used, well , china, you know, is a country that likes

to stick to such, you know, stable things , i understand that china is interested in a weak russia, but not in a collapsed russia, not in russia which will suffer a defeat and sign a capitulation, that's why china's concern is caused by this, it could be a potential or possible or inevitable counteroffensive of the ukrainian armed forces, and this is, but it is also a plus for us, because this is the way china understands military initiative and strategic initiative today. at the front was captured by the ukrainian side. this was one more additional reason not only for the visit of the russian president's special envoy, but also for the telephone conversation between president zelenskyi and the president. what if we talk about the briefing it was found out for the chinese delegation. and if we talk about zelenskyi's silence. but regarding the results of the meeting, the first message

was that it was from the chinese foreign ministry . i would like to note that the ukrainian side and the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs have taken a rather wise, i would say competent, position regarding the development of dialogue with china . between the leaders now the visit of the special interrogator. i think that further dialogue will continue, this is very important, but in my opinion, i think that the fact that there was very little information , including the virtual absence of information from the president, indicates that it is possible that there was an agreement between the parties not to comment at least at the highest level , the results of such negotiations, the ukrainian side , you saw, were limited to a comment, but the chinese side also made

a couple of rather extensive comments, and i now expect that the ukrainian side will inform literally in the coming days its european partners, first of all, the european union of american partners about the results of those negotiations, but the fact that today china is an important player in the u.s. is evidenced by the fact that president biden recently stated that he u.s. expects to meet with the president of russia sooner or later. well, and of course, it is very important that the ukrainian side understands that today victory is forged not only in, for example, washington, paris or berlin, but that ukrainian victory is also forged in beijing, but precisely with regard to the states, it is interesting that blinky, for the first time , seems to have even assumed the possibility recognition of russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, he answered senator graham's question like this, let's listen to the next question, we all want china not to help russia, i have the right idea, 100

american senators suggested that we declare russia a state sponsor of terrorism in order to keep countries like china from giving them weapons last month, and nothing happened , secretary of state, i like you very much , but you will never declare russia a state sponsor of terrorism, is that not the case sorry for the technical malfunctions, never say never, blinken said this is the legal status of the russian federation in the states, he could weaken the position of china, you know, first of all, this is a very positive judgment of the position of the united states regarding even the assumption of the possibility of recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism, because for almost a year, the ukrainian side has been fighting with washington in order for the americans to recognize this status, and finally, as they say, the ice

gradually fell from the ice, but this will also be a very important step on the part of the american parties, and this will also be a signal to china and other partners, the same to india, and to other parties, modern education to african countries, which currently still, as they say , have certain illusions about the possibility of cooperation with russia as civilized partners , of course, no one wants and does not want to cooperate with a country that is a sponsor of terrorism and russia will become one of such countries as syria and iran and this will be a black mark on the russian side and this will be another factor of powerful international isolation of moscow if we are talking about ourselves j7 which er, on which on sunday, president zelenskyi will deliver a speech online: what is our program, what is ukraine 's program, so to speak, at the very least, should we wait for breakthrough solutions

, you know, and we will expect positive results. in my opinion, it is very important for the ukrainian side to prove to our partners about a certain modification of the formula that our partners are currently guided by, and instead of the principle of helping ukraine as long as it is necessary to paraphrase this modify the phrase to the principle of helping ukraine to victory . it is necessary to clearly explain to the western world that they should not be afraid of the victory of ukraine. this, i believe, is the key task of our president and our delegations at this summit, and the second is very important, after all, to continue the dialogue that is taking place in the field of obtaining weapons and financial support, and of course the issue of sanctions, for today, in my opinion, there is still quite

a lot of potential among the sinka countries , including, let me remind you, the european union will also be represented at the summit so that increase sanctioning pressure on the russian aggressor well, of course, it is very important to talk about the topic of bringing putin to personal responsibility. i expect that this principle will also be supported. well , of course, it will be discussed. i hope for certain results regarding the processes of freezing russian assets and their use. in the post-war reconstruction of ukraine, of course, the issue of nuclear security will be very important, and here too i really hope for strict warnings of weapons from the g7 countries, and

i will remind you that there are four nuclear countries among the g7 countries so that russia does not even think of any way to use weapons. - nuclear weapons against ukraine were heard mr. kostya , thank you very much for taking the time to join the broadcast for detailed comments . we are in direct contact, thank you, and we will put an end to today's broadcast on that, do not forget to subscribe to the youtube channel of radio svoboda, like this publication, this broadcast, comment on the possibility of spreading it, that you, as many viewers as possible, were able to watch it, thank you for your trust, i worked for you daria khodimova

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ukrainian vyshyvanka day happy birthday, what will the world look like after the war, will you be in russia after the war, and what should the west do in this sense? first of all, i congratulate you. i am very happy that i can be here with you. thank you for the invitation. i will speak in english. because i am a white person who is better than ukrainian to the intelligentsia, but how if you want to ask a question in ukrainian, please, very , very nice, and a little bit, it’s probably professor hrytsak , as he spoke ukrainian, of course i don’t have it.

such english professions in ukrainian so what does he say to everyone in the same way except at the table what to do what to do with russia this is a difficult question because i realize that from the ukrainian point of view now it is very difficult to think about russia as a country and it is very difficult to imagine what can be the russian perspective, my very simple answer is that in reality there is no contradiction between what the ukrainians want and what the russians need in order for russia to lose the war, in fact the only winning

option for russia is to lose right now, the only historical chance for russia to lose its imperial war i mean after the war is over it's all very unpredictable for all of us but the best thing that can happen to russia is its loss in this war nevertheless one should not make a lot of predictions or should russia will fall apart, it depends on the russians, the best thing we can do from the point of view of the west is to start the process of rethinking what russia is, and of course this process can seem quite slow. it also seems to me to be protracted, but

it has already been launched, so i think that russia needs to win. this is the only thing that will give the russians a chance. thank you very much. i am asking a question from the audience. there must be a girl somewhere here. we are walking with a microphone. please raise your hands so that i can see. there is already a question . there will be a beautiful girl. in ukraine, but i would like to ask you as a university professor, they often say that in western european universities and also in north american right now aircation , education is very idealized and it is similar to what is happening in ukraine in the context of the war , also uh, do you think the educational space what is

the university has to be a safe space for students from the point of view of ideology, a place where everyone can agree with you, or a more complex space, the sun, to constantly defend my views, i answer in ukrainian because because no, because my answer is i'm very simple in that situation, don't get angry about it, what do you think is relevant now, what is your political and logical building, it's not, it's not so important , what's important is that you learn to think at the university

, think, change your mind, analyze and by this and and and and and and thus learns to change the building because there is no time for a test to think now there is no reaction in five years and you will have a different opinion about very, very many things and this is how our work should be professorial i believe that you do you have better thinking or the obvious the facts are important, yes, yes, but it is better to think, and because of this, it is necessary, it is necessary, there is a confrontation, yes, it is necessary, there is a lack of respect, but not about it , so that it is unpleasant, because there is no confrontation . there is no opinion. yes, i do not think that it should be safe or confrontational. space, it should be a place where you become better

thinkers, this means that i stand against you , and sometimes you protest to each other, but it is very important to remember that confrontation is not the goal of our universities, people who criticize a safe space often try to create confrontational, they want to take universities away from professors and turn them into a place where everyone is constantly fighting, and this is also not the goal, so here you have to be very careful focusing on such american debates, because i believe that the university should be a safe space where people can change their minds if you you leave the university with the same thoughts with which you came to it, it means that someone did not cope with their task, maybe it was you, maybe it was your teachers, but

someone definitely did not fulfill their missions, questions from graduate student mykola gaivoy from the front, aren't you successful, mr. prospectors, who were intrepid after the second world war, raised a weak person, a person who is not ready to joke with his life for the country, for the nation, because outside is the age of suspicion, post-nationalism , post-modernism, i will be somewhat dialectical in my answer that there are things for the sake of which we risking our lives but it is also important to know what these things are, there must be a balance here, i would not like you all to be brought up in the spirit that

the most important thing is to sacrifice your life i would like you to be brought up in the thought that is things for which i am willing to sacrifice my life so that there is a balance and you can pray in one way or another you can raise young people so that they will be too willing to give their lives this can also happen there are times when young people risk their lives when they should not be done but sometimes it is very difficult to decide what to do even at the level of what is best for the nation i understand your point but i would not say that it is so easy to learn that we

should all be more willing to risk our i may sound like a great conservative in the west, which no one considers me to be. but i think that the problem is more present in the west, for example, a lack of metaphysical awareness that there are things for which in the end you have to sacrifice something , even if it is not a sacrifice of your life , you can sacrifice your comfort this is what worries me , returning to your previous question about ideology. in my country, it is not about the extreme right and the extreme left, often both of them ultimately think about benefits for ourselves as well as the lack of responsibility because of which we are sure that in principle we should not do anything because in fact we will just criticize everyone else creating the impression that we are doing something serious and the second thing i would like to say about this

is that the event where where is it like that and is it like that and the event on the holiday or at all why my situation is similar to the situation of the germans germans in a different situation why my situation is similar to the situation of the spaniards i think it is also important to understand that ukrainians in 2023 see the world differently than they saw it in 2013 ago that i was here then and you see the world differently than you did in 2003 i know because i was here then and you see the world differently than you saw the world in 1993 you were not here but i was and i remember a different way to formulate this question is to think, to formulate the question

, what is the ukrainian responsibility to imprison certain things in the so-called west, experience, you are responsible for explaining a lot to it. it is important not to make a mistake and not to say that the west is declining , only to say that the west is declining means that the west is lost so it always leads to the final collapse because you don't want ugu to decline you want to think about what we learned from the west and what we can teach defense in my life but i try very hard to learn from my friends in eastern europe and other countries i also try very hard to teach and i think we are at that stage where