[000:00:00;00] prison certain things are so important to the state there is a lot of experience you are responsible for explaining a lot so it is important not to make a mistake and not to say that the west is declining just to say that the west is declining it means that the lost west always leads to the final collapse because you don't want to think that the west is declining, you want to think about what we learned from the west and what we can teach the west in my life and everything is like that, but i try very hard to learn from my friends in eastern europe and other countries, i also trying very hard to teach and i think we are at that stage where you have something

to learn from you and so when you think the west is declining the west is educating these lovely people i understand but i think the way to reformulate is if we explain the things that we should explain that thank you, i am asking you a question to the congress here in full view after zelensky's speech it seems to me that there is a need for a hero in the public sphere in politics and that's why you think so or is it possible to explain it in another way

round run zelenskyy how about me zelenskyi is a mystery, a mystery in the serious sense of the word, amen, when zelenskyi stayed, and this also applies to the issue of protection, probably the issue of universities, and told the president , in the sense of this word, there was

mystery around him, i do not mean myself, because i actually publicly said that zelenskyi will remain, but no one else thought so when he stayed, it was a mystery and this mystery is connected with the greater mystery of ukrainians who fight and do not give up, so for americans it is a mystery and again this is a question of values ​​why why did he stay because one of our problems is that we like to think of freedom and democracy as something automatic that is guaranteed automatically we like to think that they are given by god the constitution of american exceptionalism

capitalism by some larger process that brings them to us as consumer goods like there are many problems with this way of thinking, but one of them is that at the moment when you are faced with a crisis and it seems that freedom and democracy are not coming to you, you take and run away because you don't think of freedom and democracy as having a certain character of value when you should be devoted to them as if they were a part of you i think the puzzle for americans was that we didn't understand that people could actually do the things about we keep saying i'm a little unfair to my people but only a little when zelensky stayed and when the ukrainians started to fight it

hit the good people in the usa they knew it was something special but they lacked the words to describe it to say why it was special it was the feeling that zelensky did something that we would not have done, but no one could directly say that zelensky did something that goes beyond our parameters of normal, or even possible, and therefore for good people, to whom i would include biden and pelos and others, for them it is was a kind of example and for people who love the dictator and russia it was painful and unbearable beatles because those who love

power who want to be told what to do for them it was a really terrible blow and unfortunately we still have such people i'm not sure what already the word heroes. i think it is about the fact that we are forced to admit that there is a certain sphere of values ​​in the world and that there are people who actually perceive them. seriously, as for my country, i would say that this is our weak point because we consider ourselves a very free country democracy, but in fact we are somewhere in the middle, our democracy is normal and correct, i don't know if you have noticed, but we talk a lot about freedom and about where and how great we are, and when a nation that is used to talking faces an action that is mysterious in this sense, it has such an effect that we saw in practice, which made me cry, but

i want to say that it is basically a very positive thing voice of children is positive in the sense that many americans are beginning to recognize that what ukrainians are doing is related to freedom and this forces them to rethink the essence freedom, it reminds them that freedom is something for which you need to act, that it involves the responsibility to act and not just that something is given to you. freedom is a failure, it is an action, and it is true for everyone, it is true for you, but this truth is also for everyone. positive in the sense that ukraine is now the only topic that everyone in my country can support, it is connected with the feeling that

something unacceptable is happening and the way ukraine reacts has something very human life regardless of our political beliefs we can often talk about ukraine it is very dramatic word, i would rather use the word model. it is nice to see that people began to lean towards the values ​​of this world. it is also very important because there are certain points of contact with the previous answer about the decline of the west . it is very important that ukrainians do not just act they said it is very important for zelenskyi to speak, for him to continue speaking, for him to continue trying, and also for ukrainians in general to try to communicate with the americans and with everyone else . zelenskyi's arrival in washington was a sign, that

's true, but the sign was also in the way he spoke, as well as the symbolism in things which he did gave a flag made of bahmut and so on mounting first of all glad to see you here my question is about leadership in these troubled times we see how important it is to have a strong leader in ukraine we have zelenskyi, but as for the rest of the world, what is the current situation with the leadership in the usa and europe, then in your opinion, there is a strong leader today , apart from the ukrainian president, and it and it is so accation zelenskyi, i want to use this opportunity to talk about zelenskyi

because i think that in this hall probably there are many people who two or three years ago did not think that zelensky was a strong leader, as many of them talked about it, so before we move on to the opinion that he is a strong leader, i want to think a little about what he does he's a good leader wonder because there are actually some really interesting things about him as a person that can be instructive for the 21st century he doesn't try to do everything if you think of a strong leader you might think of someone who's on top and giving everyone orders what to do, but in fact

he does not try to do everything, he is convicted , for example, he does not make any mistakes, which putin makes when he tries to tell the army what to do. and he also generally recognizes the role of ukrainian civil society so one of the versions of a strong leader is i must have control over all institutions , and zelenskyi plays a completely different game, he understands that ukraine is made up of thousands and thousands of small groups and one of the reasons why ukraine as a state is now stronger than it was before is that civil society and the state is more or less moving in the same direction and there is something good for civil society in this, but i also noted something good in that the president in general allows this to happen and of course

he should continue to do so in the future another thing when you use the word strong, you might think that this is someone who always has his own opinion, but it's not about zelensky either. many people contacted him, but i was deeply impressed. when i spoke with him during the counteroffensive at the beginning of september, i was very impressed. our conversation is that he is the president of the country. war and it was a counteroffensive and your guys were in the kharkiv region, it seems like every minute they were winning back more and more territory while i was talking to him, i was talking to many important people, but he was still very happy say what do you want to talk about? i want to talk about the philosophy of freedom, and we ended up talking about exactly that. so

, he has a special ability to adapt to another person and listen to him. size in the 21st century involves many different types of skills and we should note which ones so obviously it's about communication trying to understand where other people are coming from and i see that every time he meets different foreigners he tries understand where they came from so he doesn't talk to people from above he shows a certain pride in his country it's more like country pride than i'm the most important person in the conversation it's very interesting

and very important when people use the phrase strong leader they can mean putin and we should think about what is different between putin and zelensky then he tells people what to do and he is always right and never wrong this is one of the versions of what a strong leader is and when people talked about putin for many years they emphasized exactly this, everything is a mess in russia but they have a strong leader and now we have to ask ourselves what do we mean when we say strong what does it mean to be a strong man strong woman or a strong leader i dwell on this because i think these are very important questions because that zelensky changed after the russian invasion. but he had certain abilities that turned out to be very important

in the world we live in when i think about biden, who, by the way, i consider to be the best president historically and in my opinion, america hasn't had a better president since roosevelt, so when i think about what's good in biden, i see a certain coincidence, it's obvious that he's different , much older, but when the war in ukraine started, he tried to convince everyone that it was real and then asked for help, and it was very different from the traditional behavior of the americans which is that we can do everything ourselves we are going to invade iraq join us if you want but we are doing the right thing and maybe you want to join us as what biden did and it's very important he warned the europeans that war is coming and he said we won't be able to handle it alone

and he's absolutely right we can't handle it alone that's what was really the defining question who is the strong leader i understand that as who is a good leader, in fact, biden has shown himself perfectly in many different aspects that are perhaps less visible here, but he keeps the issue of the war in ukraine at the center of american politics, he has done a really good job that directly depends on the ability to change his mind biden is not a young man, one of the stereotypes about older people is that it is difficult for them to change their mind, but regarding ukraine i have already watched him change his mind several times and this is very important because if he did not do this, if he thought the same as two years ago so your situation was completely different i want to clarify

my own position i am constantly disappointed with the american government i constantly want them to move faster i think they are too slow but when i look at it from a certain distance i actually see a very good leadership we have a really strong leader still in the world you can see good leaders mostly women who are over 30 i mean an impressive demographic picture supported by european parliamentary systems unlike ours where young people can become government ministers or even prime ministers i think that the most impressive leaders in our western world are in countries like finland, estonia, slovakia and even in

germany. a man started this war, there are many people who talk the most about the war outside of ukraine, these are young women who are prime ministers, and ministers, these are my observations, professor, i want to thank you for the course on ukraine that you developed and teach, my family is listening at dinner this course is for the youngest student, 2.5 years old. i congratulate you. you successfully compete with cartoons. in one of the last lectures we watched, you said that european countries lost their last wars, and my question is how this experience of losing affects their current external politics now, okay, i have a different theory of europe than that of europeans, my study of european history is actually directed against the narrative

of the european union, the eu is not about defeat, but about peace, while i believe that defeat plays a decisive role in russia, what happened in may 1945 with the germans, there was no peace, what happened in may 1945, the germans were defeated , a broad coalition completely defeated the germans , their leader committed suicide , the surrender was absolute. and then everything changed when i think about the german movement for peace, i would like there to be a german movement for defeat, where the germans openly claim that it is very important for empires to be defeated, since they once defeated them, this is the lesson i

would like them to learn from their history, because we all want peace, but the question is how to achieve it in the world in which we live, how to achieve peace, peace is not the same as surrender , sometimes peace means victory for one side and sometimes it means defeat for the other, when i make the argument that europe depends on a military defeat, i try to remind to western europeans about what they erased from their own history in the history of the european union there was the second world war and then everyone realized that war is bad and started trading with each other. in my opinion, in fact , then germany lost the imperial war, which was mainly about ukraine, the french lost their colonies in southeast asia and north africa, the portuguese and the spanish lost their colonies in africa. and after

losing the war, they settled in europe, but europe also became an excuse not to remember what actually happened in this war and even before it i worked a lot on my vision of this story partly because i believe it to be true and partly because i think it is important to inform politicians because if you think about what russia is doing of course you can do a lot talk but in essence she is waging an imperial war as i said the only way for russia to win is to lose that is the empire must lose its last war they must lose their last word and

understand that this is the ultimate failure before to try something else in relation to western europeans, i will answer that i do not think that they realize that the european union is based on an iron by no means, and that is why i constantly try to convey this idea to them, the germans in particular should understand that they fought a colonial war and lost it and that everything they they have now it starts precisely with their defeat and we should wish for the defeat of the russians even if we are not indifferent to the fate of russia russia well, if you don't care about russia, you need this war to end as soon as possible and with a clear defeat of russia, because this is the best chance for the russians to start moving forward, this

war forced europe to return to world war ii, return to its own myths of origin and hope to resist a little like ukraine which since 2014 has been a means of communicating the real history of europe because the ukrainians understood the essence and they must understand it because of your position, they must understand that we wanted to move from empire to integration, and this makes sense, the transition from empire to integration will help us build our state, our state has problems, and integration will help. this is what happened to the europeans, this is what happened to the spaniards, portuguese, italians, and poles. they had one or another imperial problem that they decided to join the european union and the ukrainians

, i think, intuitively understand that there is a certain choice , one way or another, and the russians, by the way, also understand it. putin understands it differently, either integration or empire, and he chooses empire so i'm trying to convey to the europeans that integration must win , and returning to your question about america, we have our own vision that freedom and democracy just appeared, and europeans that integration happens by itself, but that's not the case, it happens because people lose wars this happens because of other dramatic moments that are later forgotten questing from the front thank you very much for this question from the front from mykola tysenko, a historian who asks about the chinese president who recently

visited russia, that the partnership is stronger than her growing, what do you think is china's role in the russian-ukrainian war? thank you, please. first, i will tell you about what, in my opinion , ukrainians should report themselves, because it is really important for how americans and europeans see the world, what worries us, what worries us in the 21st century we worry about china and the way we worry about china is that china is going to invade taiwan, now thanks to you we have become less concerned about it but we do not put it to your credit, the logic

is that since ukraine is resisting russia, they are no longer so sure that they can simply enter taiwan if moscow cannot simply enter kyiv, then it is possible and for beijing it will not be an easy task, this is just one of the many manifestations of how the ukrainian resistance actually made the world more peaceful and less risky, returning to the question from the front, we in the west, we are used to putting everything on ourselves, and when there is a war between ukraine and russia, one of our impulses is to think, oh, this is very scary, and then we shift the focus to our own fears, but in fact , the world has become safer, in my opinion, what is safer in this war when you are ukrainians it is said that you sacrifice yourself for the sake of other people

sometimes you do not even realize how true this is because it has consequences around the world in particular and in relation to china that we are now less afraid of the scenario with taiwan emphasize how many ways you do the world is safer, one of them is china, the other is europe , i like it, because the whole inflated scenario of the war between nato and russia has now burst like a soap bubble, who are the russians

? things, but in particular the idea that russia is going to invade finland now is absurd, as well as the fact that russia can attack poland. to be honest, they would not be able to cope with the polish army in any way now , even the scenarios of unification into a single baltic state are much less scary than a year ago and all this is thanks to ukraine, i.e. ukraine made the rest of europe much safer, you understand what i mean, ukraine made the lives of germans, french, spaniards and so on much better because the risk of war in europe decreased because you basically absorbed the war in europe on your own territory you took the full brunt of the russian army on you europeans can talk about how they are a fool but in reality you made europe safer

continuing this topic i will add about nuclear war people in the west sometimes go to russia nuclear propaganda because we like to think that it is possible and we should be afraid of it, but ukrainian resistance actually made nuclear war much less likely because ukrainians show that nuclear blackmail can be resisted and that war may not be possible conventional framework this is quite a long argument, but basically what i'm trying to say is that if i were a ukrainian and i was talking about china, the first thing i would say to my western partners was , you know, we made the situation much more profitable for you than it was before, because that's really how we americans we are not going to say it we will not say it we need to hear it we will never say it because from america's point of view we are a great

power and china is a great power and everything that happens in china has to do with us but in fact there are certain things that you can do to influence china, which i would not have been able to do, you reduced the risk of war from taiwan in a way that we never dreamed of, you did it without entering into a confrontation with china, in general there is no direct confrontation with china, on the contrary , zelenskyi constantly speaks about the ukrainian official position we would like to have better relations with china come to visit or mobile other matters regarding china and russia must be remembered that the chinese really have nothing to do with russia from beijing's point of view russia is simply a large african country with natural resources. russia exists so that the russian domestic elite can be bullied and manipulated in