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[000:00:00;00] lord, autumn will be the only age after ours. on february 24, 2022, at 5 a.m., millions of families all over ukraine
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woke up from the explosions. a week, ukrainians live in a new reality of reality until every minute explosions are heard every minute our cities are destroyed reality until every minute people die but they will not break us and we will not lose we have neither the strength nor the will to win on our land and we will not give it to anyone, the cossack blood and strength of all generations flow in our veins, all the heroes who fought tirelessly for centuries for the independence of ukraine, glory to ukraine, glory to the armed forces of ukraine glory to everyone who believes, everyone who unites and helps everyone who stays on to his place and makes himself dependent in order to speed up the victory, and it is already close, let's stick together and break into
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ukraine. glory to ukraine, our children will fight , defend theirs. i am one of those who among the first accepted the war. i changed the blanket of colored dreams to stretch wars and machine guns i am one of those who distinguish actions from conversations i beat silently i did not shout those who have long ceased to be afraid of blood and the path
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a single struggle 12 stories 12 heroes 12 incredible fates came to hold the country the civilian life of each of these ukrainians has ended february 24, 99% of the war is just hard work with the first explosion everyone took their position in this war and who but me now our task people are just bread candid documentary project filmed where there is a war
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ukraine's position in the marathon the only news that thursday at 5:45 p.m. and saturday at 8:45 a.m. greetings, friends, this is a face. my name is dmytro chistyakov. my colleague , journalist valeriya lobach, series lobach , volunteer journalist, author of the documentary film chernobyl, returning home before the full-scale war, valeria worked on one of the national tv channels , is visiting me today. first as a reporter, the journalist later developed her activity in investigative journalism, the attack of the russian army did not make the girl flee, on the contrary , valeria put on a cap and went to help
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people, together with her like-minded people, she traveled through the villages of kyiv region, delivered humanitarian aid and medicine, medicines and body armor, provided the military with one of the capital's tire units in march, helped find an armored reconnaissance patrol car not so long ago, valeria returned from the east, where she drove away a pick-up vehicle with a right-hand drive and manual transmission, which was much needed on the front with a gearbox, a girl with almost no driving experience drove from ireland . this is the story of a pickup truck from ireland. the first thing i want to ask you is an inexperienced driver as far as i know, driving is thousands of kilometers from ireland to the east of ukraine with a right-hand drive. well, i don't know how it was possible to sign up for such an adventure. i really adore adrenaline situations. critical and you become dependent on it at some point. when my friend from
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the melios volunteer center suggested to me that there is such an offer and there is such an interesting opportunity, i was interested in using this adventure to gain new knowledge and because i understand that other people who are currently on parade at the front, they perform the most difficult tasks than just driving and they will also ride it, and in order to understand how difficult it is and to support them, i understood that well, you have to try, frankly , i i'm a left-handed person, so it was convenient for me, i didn't know about it, but when i actually sat behind the wheel and tried the box, the box was mechanical, i realized that i studied mechanics, i'm more comfortable with mechanics than with an automatic machine, and it's more interesting to me at the moment when already got behind the wheel, i was very afraid that something would go wrong, because in other
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countries, the behavior of drivers is completely different, traffic on the roads and holland, france, belgium, germany, poland and ukraine, the sixth ukraine, six countries to overcome . this is about 4,000 km, how many days we traveled and for about three days on the road with a stop in france, belgium, germany, then the ball waited for documents in poland and returned to ukraine because they were detained, returned to poland again, waited for the documents and already went via the internet why so why so far it was very difficult to buy cars for the front now in normal quality and inexpensive because you need a lot of them they are killed very quickly and the guys are constantly in need of new new new cars and you understand that if you buy jeeps for 15,000 then
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there will not be enough money for everyone and you have to of them, find something more comfortable but cheaper, and just in ireland due to the fact that they are right-hand drive , they are always cheaper. buy a larger quantity at the expense of this, here it is, pica, i understand correctly, yes, you are already happy that you have reached it, this is that we have reached it, and i will tell you a very interesting story , because this pickup drove from melius to the 93rd brigade. i knew that he was going somewhere with a boyfriend, i didn't know these people . and in principle, i didn't care. the main thing was that the guys had a car, but on the way back, when i was already returning from kyiv to poland to collect documents , my friend called me he says you
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wanted a car for your friend in another brigade i asked the girls, here are the keys, the guys gave up this car to me, i was a scumbag, and i cried for about 2 days from happiness because i understood that we would bring them another car, by the way, we brought another one on the same day, we already drove two cars our friend, yes, we are. this team that stands, uh, three people, this is our priest, uh, a man without a deceived face, he also drove the car with us. that is, there is such a diverse team that gathered together and took these cars away. and by the way, a friend from the very first day she was one of the first she is a soldier these days and i understand that she needs constant support, especially from me as a friend, and she needs support not only financially. she should be more emotional. it seems to me that this is a very important point that needs to be talked about
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because now the military does not need questions every day, but maybe in your socks are finished. what do you need to convey? they want the usual emotional support of human conversations that happened before, that happened in ordinary life when you told me how you are doing and asked how a person is doing, and now, unfortunately, we have such a sad situation when the military is only asked what is it like at the front and what is there and it is difficult for them to communicate about it every day because they want to hear some positive note, perhaps from you as a friend and this is an important question that people should understand because when you are close friend, you should tell me that i had some delicious coffee today my situation with her i know that she adores banana milk it doesn’t exist in the east yes it doesn’t exist this was our trick when we met and i understand that when i
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tell my story but what is it like here she is happy that i have a life filled with happiness, because she is there and i have the opportunity to enjoy myself because of the military, but if you love your friends very much, you buy them. goods that they like and send by novaya poshta because it really works there and you can show joy to your loved ones who are at the front now due to small details er that you once had in civilian life and do not forget to be happy about these details now and then that you have the opportunity, er, with the help of these people, you said about your girlfriend that she left from the first days, but you, she was also a journalist right before the war, how was it? so your girlfriend, with whom you worked, is calling you and she says i'm leaving to the war, the girl is young, she and i have such personalities that
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we do not want to sit at home, do not want to do quiet things, we constantly need to support our emotional state with some right things, and sometimes these things are very dangerous. i have been doing them since the first days active volunteering with her team, and she began to serve in the armed forces, i realized that we are on equal footing with her now in the fronts, just in different areas let's say with different conditions and we also have to support each other, and we constantly found something to his military friends as volunteers, that is, from the smallest shoes, helmets, armor to the largest, by the way, we have a cool photo with a brdem, our colleague yaroslav a-a, the founder of the chornobyl volunteer center gave
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his own to the brdem for use by the boys, apparently for the second week and when you call and tell your friends in the military we have a car for you and they are what kind of brdm they are what we heard in the sense well we have uh he has exhibits from the previous hmm business that were not destroyed by the russians under the chernobyl zone, so he can hand it over and i understand that people are just crazy with happiness because they were given something and unfortunately, at that moment it was difficult because hmm i felt very weak support from the state because well, i was really surprised that they were calling guys military girls, the military say we don't have shoes. well, they didn't expect it. it seems to me that you just had such a scale . by the way, this is a colleague from the same channel that natalka and i are from. that is, we have such a friendly collective work to gather everyone
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who goes where i went and maintained this connection, er, constantly during the war, journalistic assistance, and i know that yes, you said that on the second week, literally, it was for the terrodefense, you found this brdm. how was it in general? a week of war, you need armor, bro, where can you get a car? the interesting situation here was that the guys didn’t have the opportunity to ask for such cars. because really, where to get them, and our situation was as follows: yaroslav had a chernobyl tour that exhibited dozens of these armored vehicles as a tourist object. perhaps you remember being on this defense, they took it away and even before the start of full-scale surveillance on, let's say, rehabilitation, and they did it very correctly, because the other one that was standing there
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with fifty orcs smashed it, smashed it like just went there and the most pleasant thing was to understand that one car is in order. it is there in the garage and we keep it and it wakes up like this in the morning. i want to put it to use, then we will restore it, even if it is somehow mutilated there, do something with it. nothing we will restore the terrible thing, but the most pleasant thing was to understand that all the entrepreneurs who are now in ukraine, they woke up one morning and said i have property, i will give it to me for a pity, because it is for the sake of helping ukraine in general , the state, not only to hand it over to someone there, not only because these are our friends or this is our brigade. he did not know this guy before that. and i understand that, in fact, he gave to other people, but he does not feel sorry because now entrepreneurs are trying to support everyone who is at the front in any way possible, even
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when they have nothing left, and by the way, it is a difficult topic regarding enterprises now, uh, i understand that they are very hindered from functioning during the war and it is very difficult to continue to help, uh, to make collections for the same cars for the same armored cars, it is very difficult for people to continue because of that what their business is breaking down due to the fact that the conditions are not right now, especially from the people and the state, that is, it is difficult to somehow find communication, although it seems to me that it is about something. almost a year and a half , somehow it should get better, but all the same. i think that somehow, with time, i have hope that in our country everyone will live very friendly and help each other because ukrainians have now caught a special and general family we have no strangers we meet on some volunteer trips i hug my grandmother a stranger
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to me she cries as if i am her granddaughter she hugs me for the sake of seeing. it's as if we lived together all our lives and haven't seen each other for a long time. i understand that now ukrainians have united so much that they have become one family and there is no more. that's where you used to remember. oh , someone drove the wrong way. something else, someone crossed the road the wrong way and you immediately quarrel, there is no such thing. you just want it to be over as soon as possible. and this family lived happily . the main thing is that this life does not disappear anywhere, and after our victory, because, well, it really happens that now there is an uplift rise and then somehow everything is forgotten. but i think that thanks to such people . by the way, this will not happen to you. i already understood from the conversation that you are a little addicted to adrenaline, right? yes, we already understood because you drove a pickup truck from ireland
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to the right. i don't know, i'm studying now at mechanics, it’s difficult for me in general, how is it possible, it’s a disaster in general, it’s a little secret, do you go on a tractor or enter the mechanics on a car, it’s normal, then yes, then it’s clear, and you’re going to the east, besides the fact that you’re driving this car to ukraine, you’re also driving it directly there, and you understand that now any trip there can be the last, even in the de-occupied cities, a volunteer was visiting me, he told me that he was going to izyum until it was already occupied and peaceful, and there, 100 m from him , a car blew up on the road, well, how can you go a young girl is not afraid there is a main and main point that i remember every time that the war in our country was not only in the east, the war in our country is constantly going on everywhere and when we had uh, the cities of kyiv region were occupied. we also
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traveled with volunteers and in the first days when the russians began to move away from chernobyl, we went to ivankiv with volunteer help, when we arrived on the road, we saw about 20 mines there, just piled up on the road. people are dying in this famine from diseases because there is no medicine and here you are with these thoughts you are going and you understand that you just have to be more careful then behind us we have a cold two cars we and the armored personnel carrier that accompanied us were also sent after us by friends two humanitarian buses that blew up with the crew and everything. i understand that not everyone was able to get there. thank god we returned . we woke up in the morning and realized that it was so dangerous, but that didn't stop us from doing it next time. you understand that
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you have an end point. you understand. that you can't go to the mine to see it and return home, because you are placing a particular responsibility on yourself, which you must adhere to all the time if you already call yourself a person who can help someone and you call and say there i am going to leave now and then, well, i’m sorry, it didn’t work out for me, it’s scary, you can do that, too. there are people who are afraid, and you don’t need to be ashamed of that. you should go back if you’re unsure of your abilities , if you’re worried about your life, but i understand what happened near chernobyl when we traveled and with the east, we have a situation when you, er, go to the east. do you understand that the guys there are now without a car, for example, or without any means of equipment, and you understand that if you bring it in two weeks, you were
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afraid to be because of someone, you did not go. are you delaying it somehow you this cargo, well, the fact is that the boys will survive during this time because they lacked something at this moment. you understand that when you are already driving on the road, there is a possibility that something will happen, the first time you have to be very careful , you really have to follow the road mine got caught on stretch marks a few times, er, fishing lines, this is how to see them. when you drive at speed on the hood, how do you just look at the mirror on the windshield and you realize that oh thread, let's back up carefully er, that was by the way in buchi with a shooting studio with my group when we were shooting the story and in the forest we decided to go . i understand that these are my problems and i understand that this is my responsibility and it rests exclusively on
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me and when you go to a specific brigade with a specific parcel when you when you come there, people sometimes meet you with news, we have two three hundredths and five two hundredths there, and you understand that more needs to be done, it seems to you that this is not enough and more is needed. i understand that the war is just about endless help that will never end. something is always needed and you cannot stop and think about something else. and the most important thing is that if you are afraid not to do it, a lot of people who left left ukraine because they were afraid . personally, i do not condemn them because a person who cannot function
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here and create stress for society, she is more dangerous than when she is not here, and if they are women with children or some other people, i understand that it is better to sit down somewhere there, and people who like adrenaline do not think with their heads, drive into the forest, they are not panicky, they will work, they will work silently, constantly try to find some way out, and it is important not to panic, because if you take a person with you to the team who is very nervous, it completely undermines the entire spirit of the team and everyone starts thinking about what will happen next, so the most important thing is even if it is not scary we show our emotions, because it will be even more scary the next day, because then something will definitely go wrong. that's why you didn't leave, and even though i could have left, i had a relative who was waiting for me right there somewhere on the beaches. i thought that a war would start. but on the 24th, i wake up in the morning and it's like, no, something needs to be done, and i'm convinced that it
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's more because i used to do volunteer work, but it only related to some animal shelters, sometimes they helped the homeless. that is, it's a minimal kind of help, but it's somewhere inside i was lying down and now i can’t forgive myself if something happened somewhere, some kind of explosion, some kind of flight. and i didn’t film it as a journalist or i didn’t help those people as a volunteer. i understand that everything is turning me upside down inside. i want to do it because i understand that it is a vocation. i am sure that you, as my colleague, understand that it is the vocation of journalistic activity that always breaks all adequate thoughts about the fact that it is dangerous if there is a fire or an explosion. you drive with burning eyes because you can broadcast it on the world, by the way, we have an exhibition now in germany in poland, to
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which my team and i sent before , just with the chernobyl volunteer center, we took photos during the trips, very sensual, very uh, shots of the exhibition and i understand that it is broadcast to europe is the main message that is not broadcast in the news because the tv channels show the usual stories about the fact that so much equipment has passed, there are soldiers , there are some people, the occupation, but they do not look deeper, i wanted to talk about the european channels as they are broadcast now i was a fixer with several foreign journalists and i saw their work. i saw what they wanted. just to show what war is like, but they don't want to look deeper and look deeper. it's time to really see how people lived
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all this time. what they experienced and what they faced. because they stayed to show how the house was bombed to an elderly woman, this is of course the right thing to do, but to ask what's next and when will you live, when will this house be restored, these are the main questions that concern this person : what flew in - it flew in the past, and now changes are needed and now changes are needed for people who do not have housing, they need to be given more help, because the volunteers simply do not physically move there, we can bring some pillows, blankets, food, but we cannot buy an apartment and salt all the refugees there and this needs to be done now, people cannot just wait on the street, and terrible events are happening in our country, which few people talk about abroad, when it just arrives, it brings with it hundreds of broken lives, we are not talking about the arrival, we are talking about the fact that
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the lives of ukrainians were broken, about that they killed the children of their parents, they need help because they have no sons, daughters, or any parents. that is, this is a general national tragedy that needs to be discovered more deeply. i am sure and i hope that this exhibition she showed more than she could and at least in germany it is a little more clear that people who come and watch say that some of them wanted to help , for example, a lot of europeans, not even at the exhibition, say that they want to help, but unfortunately they are already tired of this help, and this is often heard. i understand that now it is very difficult, even for the volunteer center , which is now functioning, even these cars and why are we trying. cheaper because there is no money, people don't give them, everyone just
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said. well, a year has passed. we used to remember about the war, but not now. i really want that in ukraine too. by the way, this is the main thing in europe too, people remembered that the war is going on, that the needs have not decreased, they have not ended, they should be the same as in the first days, so then everyone was not prepared and the money was sent to who, where and how. but now we already have structures , we already have a volunteer organization that is geared towards specific assistance to specific regions or people . especially in peaceful cities in ukraine now people remembered that the war was going on because when i returned from the east to kyiv, i just didn't want to go outside for two days because it was the first time i was in the east. i was only there for one day, even without
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staying overnight there were fierce shellings, but after i returned from this picture to kyiv, where are the people in their eyes? they don't even have understanding, and i hear some sayings that oh , what a pity there is no place to go for a walk or something else, i understand, you must rest, you must go to reboot but at this must be remembered and must be helped, because kyiv is always under attack , most of all, to live. all i see now is that new people are walking on the streets with children and walking with dogs. i understand that they should sneeze at all, despite the fact that well , we saw the picture yes, from the center of kyiv when a drone was shot down over the independence square and people just watched it, although it is a great danger to fall on them, the debris could fall on them and i understand that it was
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there first. what if something is flying in the sky, you don't have to stand and shoot. and you're a journalist on the job . you have a specific task, okay, that's one thing, but when you're a mother with a child, you're walking somewhere in the center of the city. well, please hide, because we'll be this country is making a sacrifice, it's not just one family. everyone understands that this is a loss for the entire population and i'm very glad that there were no casualties, but you need to think with your head in moments of danger and you need to protect yourself because now all the military at the front are trying to protect us they are trying to make sure that there are no offensives . less, so that there is no more seizure of territory, so that we somehow defend ourselves, so that we have a normal life and we have

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