[000:00:00;00] a lot of history accumulated during the war, so to discuss this is not an understanding of reality, we invited oleg chaban, a psychotherapist. a military man arrived just arrived from the front for a few days, we asked him what are your impressions of the capital, he frankly said that i want to return to the front as soon as possible because i see a complete misunderstanding between civilians and military, it manifests itself in everyday things, he says, well, even on the road. if before, military cars, and it’s difficult not to notice them, they were passed right away at gas stations , they filled up without queuing, and there was complete

swearing - the loyalty of people, now he says that there is no such thing, and this is a misunderstanding it just spilled into tik tok because we published a video of a conversation with this military man and the comments were like this, let's make it bad everywhere and what is this dissatisfaction in kyiv, the war is over . what kind of delusion has otaki become in front of everyone's throats the comments were based on a conversation with this military man, and according to his words, we see that the gap is growing during this time, and this is becoming a problem that we need to solve now without waiting for the end of the war. what is happening, the war is happening, but the war is going on. oh, i forgot to say hello. what about you? the night watch means that it watches the night, there is a war , which means that the psychology of those who enter the zone of the peace of conditional peace is changing, because the war has entered every house. even through

information, we know informational neuroses informational traumas because of what we are just seeing and the real war of those people who are on the front lines and their lives . and were in a state of war well, do you want it or not anyway we are here and we are doing our work and we must do it the work of goodness and we all say we are also on the front line not only to the next not only supporting the soldiers and that that we are doing a good job, you are bringing information, i am treating those survivors who are returning and they need to be helped, and so we must all take part in the same thing, but we must clearly imagine that the longer the war continues , the more people appear who are mainly with the vanguard of these guys in camouflage

ah, the world is divided into black and white, where there is no striped one. there is not a single drop of something that is a little bit true but a little bit false for zhek , it is necessary to unfasten it. it they don't accept it, they don't accept it when you can laugh out loud while there is some information about the war, for example, even on television, there is a cafe and there is a monitor showing news and chronologies , some kind of reluctance at the table that arises in them, what association is he there or here he is starting to split this world and more and more people are appearing who are clearly and rigidly divided and there are a lot of them, how many people are in the army today, there are a million people, i will not say that everyone is on the front line and everyone is now shooting and

so on, the institute of demography was published, which means 15% of the population was clearly divided. they are in the oven within certain limits, which we need to realize to those who are in the conditional zone of peace under the protection of patriots, and so on. and whether they moved to europe and so on , they did not disappear even in europe, they ukrainians have their own unity. we need to be clearly aware of who we live with. who are our people, what are they, who come and he is not ready to relax right away and buy a tricker from him, reflexes, he reacts to loud noises, he reacts to injustice, he reacts in general to loud laughter and, god forbid, some kind of babbling in the form of some fool, what a salute. let the honor of his birthday be. so he is ready to erase it, and this is absolutely logical, or when he sees that what cannot be done turns out to be possible, i am again about this information that i'm glad, you will definitely switch to this topic in order to lick yourself and get how are you there, a million likes

? it is really realistic to teach those who are here and to remind once again, people, we are at war, wherever you are, whether in kyiv, or near donetsk or in transcarpathia, our country is at war. well, sometimes we are even outraged by the fact that they constantly write to us, don't publish , don't publish, and we know that you can't publish, then you open what all the classes are, people, it's very simple , do you remember the oil pyramid, you know a little psychology, the oil pyramid is at the bottom the question we have is what we need to acquire, fed in the heat, will be warmed by security, and at the top is the word self-realization, self-realization , well, imagine that a person got into one institute, did not choose that institute and was expelled or quit himself

. in the form of the world wide web, the internet throws up her idea of ​​self-realization but only your appearance and your fillings of all this, you know what the change is going on here is already retreating to the other side and why are you in plain sight what kind of morals do you have and what therefore you parents taught and this primitive self-realization leads to the fact that people find this canvas when you find this support like 100 likes including joining your emotions girls how was it not scary a million how were you scared and let me prove to you even more how me it was scary because i will show you the eyes of star wars alya star wars over kiev when it breaks out and a million more like it all she is at the peak of self-realization someone will say yes, sorry , primitive self-realization tomorrow in you starts because there will be other information, but in reality what will you live on, they throw up their hands because they can’t do anything anymore, they don’t know, they are not

realized, then they will turn to something else to experiment with. you can pump in as many adequacy fuses as they don't work for people at this moment. well, they show moves forward , logic disappears, you understand, where there are a lot of emotions, as a rule, there is very little logic, logic she always catches up later, but this happened well, everyone knows about it when she replicated and this is a blogger who replicated this whole thing , the police went to her, this is where the logic of learning begins, come here, we will explain to you what will happen next, if you, you, and the same one drop it really, hemolocations what it won't be easy for you personally, because it's beautiful, but you can die, and you'll drag a whole lot of people behind you, this is learning, logic, login, for logic, you need effort, logic - it's either

learning itself or someone teaching themselves, you learn, you do you understand, you are aware of emotions, no , emotions are very fast, they are just that now i will throw out emotions and that's all. it is necessary to take a tour of the boot camp and explain under what conditions there will be no phone, there will be no tik tok, and so on, bloggers, uh, who published the work, the man is in a pre-trial detention center, he was accused of spreading drugs she basically knows what it is she can sit next to him there can sit next to him i think it will be a good education at least for others then logic will be included don't duplicate yourself she doesn't duplicate information she duplicates herself reproduces instantly why does she reproduce and why does it succeed because everyone has high anxiety alertness and everyone who

opens real star wars eyes first of all opens eyes flashes and so on and so on and so on it is clear that we have a request for alarm anxiety predicts where i give me additional information, give me true information, what you filmed is real, and that’s why there are similarities in this addiction of people when they are on social networks, they scroll through it and it falls on her, or she or others, anyone who reproduces because of repeating himself but because of the excitement of anxiety in others olezhe and now they complain that they are being bullied in ukrainian society, that they did not understand them, they did not want to create any problem for ukraine and that russian propagandists picked up on them, their intentions were not the same. and now they say that ukrainian society specially lets them into the abyss, this one is erased simply with the winter one, it is also because ukrainians are very willing to rush to some new,

well, not that victim . when the collective destruction already needs to be understood that once again repeats the key point that everyone periodically forgets, it means those who do not hold weapons now people we are at war we have tense relations with each other do we want it or not they are tense how if you didn't feel like you were under the sun in the morning and didn't drink coffee and today there were no sirens anyway we are in a state of tension if so then of course if give me an object where i can pour out my anger and hatred because i really can't pour out right now hatred rages against the one who launches the rocket. well, you can't reach him and so on, but here is an object that suggests that rockets can fly more locally because bloggers have placed and so on, it is clear that you will continue to be the object

of draining people's emotions which are in anxiety, fear, rage, hatred, and so on, you automatically become an object, so you should think about whether your realization is like the top 1 , there are 10,000 more likes, or what the life stories of those mothers who did not wait for their sons and will tell until what do yours lead to and so on and the like that's why you have to think about it and the fact that they give information about themselves is logical well don't let it mean be good well some rubbed their palms and said oh i'm more popular now what is popularity popularity is a swing opa, right below today, you know how they bear the pain when they are beaten, when they are carried at the top, awards are given out there and the hall stands up and applauds, it is perceived as a normal thing, people are involved in everything, people are bribed that it is possible to be at the top of popularity and

perceive everything as usual. then what ends and ends as a rule 1:2 which punctures and fly down punctures everyone does all the more because they say even if you went up somewhere, well, a nail in the head will turn on a little bit of education elementary understanding what where when what you show where to whom you show why, you show what will happen after this, then think five steps ahead, after this, this will be the main problem of these content generators. i understand why this is what was recorded . well, for example, pavlik or someone else would not do it to him if he received such pleasure with my wife in the form of a homev video, this is all mine , if someone hacks it and rushes here, i sued him so that he got into my computer and so on. you know people

they are trying to do something like this. and give me the opportunity to reproduce in any version, at least in underwear, at least with this permission, and so on. oh, i 'm right there. well, then you 're still getting. in the social network, to show off, to laugh and to laugh, as you said at the beginning, that the military is annoyed by this joke, and it was just that my grandfather said about pavlik that he was annoyed by these, well, he is an obscene word already on the air, that he is annoyed by this joke and laughter just because of what is funny to people that they used the pass and in general, who gave them such a pass and they, as it were, showed themselves that they are superior, that they were able to get it, you look at what the pass provides now over the war 1 2 3 4 in connection with an extraordinary event in the state, what is your relationship to the extraordinary event have i'm not talking about that right now, but about the fact that you rise above something that is very strictly regulated, someone once again emphasizes that

the war here is not expensive, that's laughable. that's how i always say, in war, you can't laugh at war, because it's trouble. and in war, you can laugh but they were on the bridge in kyiv and not on the front lines, this is a big difference. what to do about it and how ukrainians keep their psyche under control during night attacks , we will talk about it after a short break. the question why did this happen? europe was not united, that's why the war spurred us on. this is robert chub - minister of foreign affairs of france. then in his declaration he called on european countries to act together. it was

may 9, 1950. the day when europe was united. a country that has nuclear weapons commits a brutal attack on its neighbor russia unleashed a new war in the center of europe, but unity turned out to be stronger today ukraine is fighting for its right to become part of the european union ukraine is not alone and will not be alone now we are creating a new history together and together returning to our home, peace, year. you are waiting for victory, you want the occupiers to leave our land and you are indignant when the next forecasts are not fulfilled, it may end, but you should

understand one thing, they will not stop. if you do not stop them, be the armed forces by experts, we analyze today's events from different perspectives or know what will happen tomorrow from the beginning of a full-scale war. the facts of the week remain with you to analyze the plans of the enemies and to understand how to survive and bring us closer to our victory.

tomorrow at 20:00 in marathon the only news 1+1 continues the national telethon night watch in the studio of nataliya ostrovska i yevhen plivska oleg chaban psychotherapist with us in studios thank you once again for visiting us, continuing the topic, i want to talk about what happens to people in recent weeks, when every family goes to bed knowing that in a few hours it will wake up either from a siren or from explosions. they say to me or well, i'm afraid to sleep, what should i do, and we start moving around the apartment , sit in the corridor, and it becomes a systemic phenomenon, going on the subconscious already, uh, well, not that you should be afraid , but i think that a few more days like this and we

let's be afraid, just in the evening, i shared my problem with you before the broadcast, that i have never in my life had chest tightness of a certain ah at night at 3:00 a.m. i was scared so much by sirens. i don't know, although it's already common. i felt a tightness in my chest that i could not breathe. well, although i have never felt anything like this in my life, then when there was such a powerful explosion, on the second day , the same thing happened, it was difficult to breathe. i had never experienced such a thing in my life. oleg said that this is one of the symptoms of night guards, let's not give each other symptoms and i am not for you now a doctor in psychiatry does not make these diagnoses for one symptom, you describe common phenomena , let's start with the fact that you describe what i feel, well, we can't say that three crazy people have gathered here who are going crazy, this is also to ensure life and is not afraid , does not worry and walks fearlessly during the siren and only a fool or an idiot bites so this is reality and we give normal habitual reactions so perceive what

you are afraid of what you are worried about as a human reaction of adaptation adaptation of protection well don't you run there now to the supermarket if this during the day or at night, taking a walk around kyiv at night during the sirens means that the rivets are enough, this is a normal reaction, we are talking about some abnormal reactions, then this is when even without some kind of anxiety, a person cannot breathe there, well, it is written, it describes some elementary panic attack, they became na it's a pity, that is, this situation passes more, if this is a normal reaction of you in me , i say once again the same as you, you react exactly the same way, and i have two of my wife's phones and they are buzzing, the kmda signal is all it's understandable. with the rise, we move like that. but if it becomes excessive. and if the heartbeat is really taking away your breath without any signals, then we really say that your nervous system is already overworked. unfortunately, the number

of patients with anxiety disorders has increased , which is also logical. to say that our a-a society is quietly going in the direction of madness no it is not so no it is not so because it is enough to remove these signals but i think that soon they will be removed from the end there will be this trouble called war, return to society, go to work, and the body of 80% of people recovers by itself, recovers only because you have something to do, think about children , think about part-time jobs and go and go oh , how i would like to simulate all this and say how much time, the people will celebrate and roar, and the only thing i really ask in advance is no salutes for a while yet, don't even don't turn it on, because the coaches are in the guys what are they still working, they react very easily exactly to the sound exactly to the sound it's familiar to me so we move on to

optimistic topic by the way, they say that everyone in the apparatus has already felt that victory will not come tomorrow, i feel positive , you are setting everyone up after our broadcast, the audience will be very sleepy, you know what it is, you protect me, i protect mental health , a part of mental health care, but a small part of me i understand that it depends on everything , on all of us, on each of us, on the head of the village council, who is currently repairing the village road, and the guy will come back and say, yes, i know what i fought for, a new fruit, a new road markings, and so on, they said that life it's like this, as you can see, we must prepare. then maybe there will be a little disappointment, then there will be re-elections and we will have to figure out who will lead us, and he will definitely continue to exist a little bit. a person

feels anxious, panicky . next, i described such a variant, a pop version , alarmingly conical, first of all, you need to think about what you are doing . what exactly are you doing? it's breathing breathing, for example, there are many techniques of psychotechnics, for example, breathing for a square, you take a breath for 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 the breath has stopped and 1 2 3 4 5 it looks like this it turns out approximately like this you can walk and

breathe you can practice in this time ecopressure very elementary you find your points of relaxation you see this line on my hand find and put your two fingers here and the first thing in the middle under your two fingers press on it with your fingernail not with your finger not with the pad of your finger but with your fingernail give find an exercise move your finger left and right and feel some unpleasant sensation, she herself is unpleasant let's say that's right and even one hand, the other hand, walk slowly with inhalation and so on, there are many concentration techniques, the internet is full of these psychotechniques self-soothing, don't grab hold of any memories, tranquilizers and so on, this is already a medical prescription, you can overdo it herbal please distract you good herbal tea soothing mint melissa what did you come up with grandmother please technique

a lot a lot really everyone can do it with these things in a global sense, how much will it be a problem for us when we are these two worlds of the military who see reality through the sight of a machine gun and the society that also considers itself involved in the victory but lived in peaceful cities, when these two worlds meet, everything will depend on what he will see through the sight of a machine gun. now he sees the sight of a machine gun. imagine that the enemy has disappeared, they took him away and who does he see, what do he see, what are the roads, what is the work, what is the attitude towards them, in general, towards the military. and what what is the social assistance package? what is the bureaucracy? has the bureaucracy changed or not? do we need to prove further that the himalayan camel is not a camel? and for my

injury, i need a certificate. and there is no way to write off part of it. and i still have to run here and there. and so on, anger, aggression appears, that is, if there is a demonstration of the life for which the boys are fighting, honest, fair, transparent, this object of hatred will shift, it will begin to disappear , this will be depreciation, so i cannot say that it will depend, including on you and on me and from everyone else, from those who rule, who understand that a million people will return , and who held weapons, and many of them have crossed the line of killing people and would not protect them, and that is understandable, but they are very hard-hearted about this world, now they want not to see it striped droplet gray a little bit yes a little bit yes and to educate our society and teach people to communicate with the military and to teach these basics of understanding because we are now given that well these are obvious things these are

obvious things do not film how air defense works do not hype do not make assumptions respect of the military, but sometimes this is your team , you translate your vision of the world onto others, it sometimes turns out to be wrong, and you are disappointed by how people can actually behave, teach them what is necessary . of course, what do you do? information with specific live stories if you show a vivid story of a guy who lost his arm there and came back here and is now rising and doing some kind of start-up in me personally before your transmission. in this vein , deep respect arises and if i saw a military man automatically what you showed me a my memory works, it will be transferred to him, that is, you really need to learn, you need to understand that their psychology has changed not only do not confuse and in no case do not

label them psychiatry psychology psychology they all have their own specifics, and that's why we really have to adapt and understand. there is even such a term as post-war psyche , military, it's people who can't stand it. this is what i said black-black-gray in a droplet and so on. they are clearly divided by a heap of lies absolutely filth and brutes who treat the word justice a little differently than it was, who have concepts and brotherhoods are those who can be trusted why even sometimes we see i personally that when we treat them and a psychiatrist is not only a psychologist we treat post-traumatic stress disorder, we see people who want to return to the front line, and you tell him you were wounded because you had a contusion there, the expository variant of ptsd, you still need to be treated, he says i can’t be among you there, i understand everything there, the guys are disbanding there and not will be my family, my boys. i want to go there and i'm literally ready to rush out there and the like. therefore

, everything depends on how we will be . of everything that is happening, the ukrainian veteran's office conducted a study. by the way, it is relevant to the topic we are talking about now, and 60 and 63% of almost 64 veterans said that they want to do their own business after military service. and just for this, they say that the local authorities should prepare some ground they should think about what business they can offer to veterans, how to support and give contributions, benefits , the laws should be changed, change them already because the war has started, they should not come and say let's pass the laws, well, good people. well, how we need it already, we should already be preparing for after the war, for us , for example, people who are connected with mental health , there is also a big question, and what will happen to the mentally healthy population of ukraine after the war? here , too, it is not necessary to relax so much and say that

the war is like that today is over, tomorrow everyone is so joyful and happy and it will not go on like this. there are even forecasts that certain mental disorders may increase, these are not forecasts - it was the driver of these forecasts, they generally threw the word a-a into mental health can be violated in every fourth ukrainian, the ministry of health, which numbers confirm some no , although i always say that mental health is not mental, it is not the absence of mental disorders , this is a big difference, mental health is not the absence of mental disorders, it is not the absence of mental illnesses, mental health i am self -realization , abundance, satisfaction, provision, and so on, that is, a full-fledged life, plus the lack of mental development a little bit. was somewhere at the beginning of the war and we were shocked by his words. he said that war for humanity is a natural process, humanity is constantly fighting, there is no such period of history

, if there were not several wars , it seems to us that it is something unique, but for humanity this is normal, typical, well, in quotation marks, but a typical phenomenon from the point of view of the human psyche , to what extent war is a natural state for a person , when you say that the guys want to return there to the war as soon as possible, why is it because there is, well, a relatively simplified model the perception of the world is the enemy, i am mine, my task is to kill the enemy and there is nothing else in life, and the civilian world is more complicated and multifaceted. why do people rush there and how do they perceive the psyche, the state of war, they rush? i described a specific patient of mine who really escaped and fled to the war and i can only say god give you life and health and that we meet but only in peace and they still have a clearly understood goal, that's what i'm talking to