[000:00:26;00] and all this under the kvarreli resort hotel in georgian kakheti, where yekaterina vynokurova, the daughter of the minister of foreign affairs of russia, sergei lavrov, who came to her husband's brother's wedding, allegedly settled. well , actually the georgians didn't like it, they came to tell these russian citizens to get out i know that in siberia we have our own to celebrate

what is happening in georgia and in addition to georgia there are also other protests because now they are protesting near the parliament because of the resumption of air traffic between russia and the capital in fact, it became the trigger of those protests. it may seem a little strange, actually. well, maybe my friend flew there with some muscovites . well, what’s the matter? let's take it easy, because they don't fly with us anymore. well, we're shooting down, but i'm asking for a word, but we actually have a lot of people there, even those uh, you know, thousands of people. it was 2008, the georgian war, when uh, the planes that flew over they drove passengers through georgia in russian

they dropped bombs, they bombed georgian cities, and well, the whole story is also very well known until now, but nevertheless, maria zakharova, the official representative of the russian federation. for the fact that they are not what they are that they do not react, so to speak , to all of these, to all of those , as she said, uh, how would it turn out ? politicians had

sich and the demonization of georgians georgians muscovite behavior they come somewhere at first as if they are guests and then they start to behave like hosts we are the late vakhtang kikabidze singer famous georgian actor he once said in an interview that he seems to have a lot of friends there. there were muscovites there. well, even before the war, far, far, far away. i read it somewhere once by chance and he said what is it? generosity well, that is, he is there if everyone came to him, he has everything there, or he even came to them in moscow and doesn’t buy everything. but we all go out for all the money, and there the gifts are different there, there is nothing wrong with borrowing money, you get it , my friend. just and back and that's the type of dulya with the poppy, that is, in one in one gate, this is called and he said so once two then he said well, listen, well, it won't be like that and he says that he has

so many friends, friends, friends, friends , muscovites are not welcome. here is some story so what about what you say what hmm, to put a pig on the table is under the table, and it climbs on the table. if so, if georgians are famous for their generosity and hospitality, then russians are treated with something absolutely often , the opposite is ruthlessness and the goat-derezah the goat-dereza who occupied the hut and said that it is she i see korchilava journalist, former president, only the embassy of georgia in ukraine is in touch with us, ladies, we congratulate you , well, listen, there are so many protests in georgia , and it's all because of the russians, first of all, tell me, georgia is a small country, why is this brother, brother

lavrov's daughter's husband's complicated family history, in a word, he chose this restaurant in kakheti for his wedding, because there was nothing better in russia. let them stay in themselves . that restaurant attracted them so easily. biography of russian officials. everyone cleans up. lavro lived for a long time. has a sentiment that is understandable in general. so when we look a little sideways at this whole story like this, we think, god, well, a couple of planes flew in from russia, well, they took it off, they introduced a unilateral visa-free regime. well, is that it the reason for such protests andriy ah, for the citizens of russia, the visa-free regime was still contemporary with mrs. saakashvili yes, the citizens

of georgia who wanted to fly to russia and yes , that is why the visa-free regime was abolished unilaterally, this is russia. a plane arrived here. well, transit through the army could be wrong, or transit through a third country. well, not lethal, yes, yes, the direct address message was opened, for some reason, they only talked about their own indignation, there is some after 2008 suddenly for some reason, they resolved the issues of the occupied territories, we restored them to the territorial integrity of the coat of arms of georgia, they restored the non-political relations of my friends, like that. and everything is good with us, well, very, very strange approaches - this

was more of an approach, just eh, so from the side of the russians, i understand why they did that from the side of the russians, because they basically wanted to show that in the soviet space we have many friends, including georgians, but this is not quite the case. they are reacting to everything, how big is the russian community in georgia now and how, in general, it does not have a large russian community in georgia? russian officials like georgians there, the current official is playing the figure of one million, no, one million georgians living in the territory of the russian federation , somewhere around 200,000 uah, the same in ukraine

, the georgian diaspora is permissible, much more than the russian federation, the georgian diaspora began a long time ago to leave russia . only five million georgians can live in the world. 20% of them cannot be found on the territory of the russian federation. i know there are 130,000 russians who do not live there, according to all the data . even what is needed for them now there is quite noticeable, but for georgia 130 thousand people who come there temporarily is a rather noticeable number because let 's be honest, friends there have a smaller population than kyiv, and iraklii kovbakhiza, the leader of the ruling party

of the georgian dream of a democratic georgia , said that in georgia there is no place for xenophobia, he actually called the protests e-e the openings of xenophobia. is it that many politicians are in opposition to such an opinion, or are there really manifestations of xenophobia at the university see e-e у меня много детей и grandchildren, i watch together with them, there is such a trend among young people, very happy, we often drive in cars now, there is a trend among ukrainian young people, the pre-existence of the city of zhytomyr does not exist . what, lord, on whom, oh, there is never a talking head that will say something, that's what it produces, and absolutely not, not thinking about it, but there is no such pressure. politics, mr.

klubokhidze, it's not artificial. well, not an existing character. yes, but the ruling party on behalf of which region . yes, and mr. kovbakhidze , he has no impossibilities, no skills, no political weight. yes, she produces exactly the desire of the wasp and the patron of the mistress of the willow , which is mentioned in all european reports . nizhvili, it always seemed strange that georgians who survived the war of 2008, the occupation of the territory, i don't know if

they survived, they are experiencing, it is correct to say, in the time that continues, and they elected a sufficiently pro-russian leader, he never provoked or did not state that he said that i'm talking about a european. i have a passport, not even for france . it's true, and it's a plus. we all played a joke in the georgian society. we also have this disease. yes, we believe that there are some good businessmen, oligarchs who they think about how to give out their money to people, that's what they heard , created the illusion that if i choose him, all my money will be taken away from me

. so much as the person is blooming, he doesn’t want them anymore, they don’t need this money. the main thing is that he came to his own party. it’s a phenomenon . it’s actually a phenomenon. how can you beautifully deceive a voter? pro-russian, but not already. you know, the devil's best friend is to convince me that he doesn't exist. yeah , i've been talking since then. i see the future of georgia with an atom and in the european union. maybe if he said that i see the future of georgia with russia, he wasn't elected, you know. it's just the georgian society, the losses of georgia at the beginning of the 90s in the struggle for territories that require independence amount to almost 100,000, and now look at the population

of georgia, 3.8 34 million. hummingbird, imagine how catastrophic losses are for the country, a million for ukrainians, and imagine here comes a man, i'm pro-russian, i want you to choose me, no, well, i've never been fast , they are, and now they continue forever, we are about europe, we strive for europe, we do everything for that that the objects are in the game right away, well, you understand what we are looking too directly at georgian politics . that's why now we have black and white perceptions, and there you can be cunning and evasive, we had exactly the same times not so long ago when politicians were evasive or evasive, they could

sell some absolutely stupid slogans covered with populism, our society also got a taste here. georgians have not had soldiers there since the eighth year. now they have calmed down. now you can deceive them, you can pass off populism as real politics. unfortunately , the political situation in my native georgia is a bit painful now, but we have some. eh, why have i always been envious when it comes to georgians, well, apart from great cinema, in fact, it’s a great georgian school, but i ’m joking, of course, of course, these are the bigger ones in our country , much more of its mogenity or monolithic state itself, at least in our country from afar it looks, that is, it is created, yes, look, in fact, there are georgians, there are also many regions, these regions see these regions

in different ways, they are provided differently, they see the same questions differently, for some regions the war was more painful for guitar regions, it was a mini-pain, well, how would you understand what would be an expert on any topic, i need to understand very deeply sometimes when my friends from georgia try to see the situation in ukraine, it’s not for me, well, it’s very funny to me , because they don’t understand the whole depth of the processes that are going on here they do not understand how quickly the ukrainian society changes there and how much it changes very often. in our country, too, many commentators are wrong in that they do not fully understand the depth of the processes that are taking place in georgia and in fact yes, how do you understand empires , any empires before the moment of their death, they are very aggressive, they are very aggressive

, they wave their tails . yes, like dragons. they don't shoot at you and don't explode bombs are bombs you and i often laugh at the thesis and everything is so unambiguous that's why now georgians are asked to instill this thesis not everything is so unambiguous well this is idiocy well thank god the georgian society is not so receptive to the almighty mussels telegram how many georgians have died in the past, are still fighting and will fight on the side of ukraine, there is probably not a single unit and there was not even one at the moment in ukraine . the most important thing there is the position of people in relation to ukraine and the ukrainian voprosa da vlasty plays one place, tries to sit on three chairs, it’s not very pleasant, it’s not very

good, but the most important thing is that there is an absolutely clear social order in the country itself. any government that tries to ignore or change the political social order society and we are getting nowhere so i think that there will be no elections next year thanks to mr. i see, i see korchilava journalist, the former president of the embassy of georgia in ukraine told us and explained to us what is happening in georgia what now he is protesting and protesting against the fact that planes from russia are flying to georgia again and protesting against the fact that lavrov's daughter was seen there together with other russians who came to attend her brother's wedding her husband, but now we will talk about the children in the occupied territories, about the children

that russia steals from ukraine and takes away, about the people who ended up in the occupied territories, and what they have to go through pavlo lysyanskyi , director of the institute of strategic research and security, contact us mr. pavlo we congratulate you this week there was so much good news, although that news is very little in comparison. 14-year-old veronika and six-year-old anna-maria returned to their relatives , returned to ukraine, but only two children , how much is left from what we know now we are actually in captivity with the russians because what they are doing with our children cannot be called anything else, well, of course, if you take into account the cases when we returned children

with those who were taken away, that is, well, these are hundreds of thousands , these are facts. we have up to 10,000 children there as early as 2022, then another hundred thousand left, and now they have changed their tactics. did not change the process deportations, they just made it quieter, yes, that is, they provided, they do not expose their actions in open a-a networks, there is less and less data on the deportation of children, it’s bombastic, they haven’t been doing it like that for a long time, but medical filtering in the temporarily occupied territory for children is still eh they take the children out take them out they will close the lists through the federal security service of the russian federation when the children

are taken across the border temporarily the entire territory of ukraine and the russian federation well , in general, that is, we have what said about 200 there, well, hundreds of thousands, yes, that is, but this figure is increasing every day because those processes in the occupied territories continue, forced mobilization continues now , the forced deportation of ukrainians who renounce russian citizenship and the so -called occupation legislation is applied to them in the form of m- m in the form of e-e foreign citizens, and accordingly there they can also take children away from their parents , that is, because these people do not have any rights in the temporarily occupied territories precisely because

vision of the occupiers and that is why the number of children stolen in ukraine is increasing every day, unfortunately , i came across a video from mariupol. my colleague, journalist gennady stamboula, a mariupol resident himself, posted it in some mariupol school. well, it can be of course eh. as we know, the last name is not an indicator of success, but her last name ends in enko, ukrainian eh, and somehow it looks strange. i would

like you to watch this video. you can protect yourself, let's watch minecraft, please . i'm never unauthorized. smile, it's a form to do .

e school number 21 - this is its principal , zhanna belchenko, is she belchenko and the whole principal, what kind of person is she who says that for the first time in her life she hits another person , a student? well, she is quite like that. anyway, i understand that he, this student, could do something so unacceptable. well, but i don't understand the methods of educating this headmistress , it's just that in our country, if, well, in the controlled territories, if this happens , society creates a precedent - it is discussed, in the end , we can remember that girl who in in the yard in ivano- frankivsk

, she was jumping on a rope , and her grandmother was picking on her. changes and and and the topic for the ethers uh, but what should children in mariupol do when there is a this is the situation ah, well, look, accordingly, everything we can do here, where uh, distribute this video and discuss it widely, and maybe it is possible to force occupation authorities to remove this teacher yes maybe i'm saying well, in general , i've already said several times that parents who don't want them to act, er, went to occupation schools, they call some principals , a representative of the er special services is already sitting there, and he a-a

says that if you don't, you won't lead your children to school, then we will leave your parental rights because you are children, violate the child's right to education , you understand, so there is only one way out, leave these territories if the parents do not want them to act, they were brought up in such methods, but there have already been numerous cases, yes, i repeat, there have been numerous cases when parents simply wanted to protect their children from this . from such upbringing, they simply did not want their children to attend these schools. and then the teams were attracted by the instrument of influence. they promised that if so, then we will simply take your children . well, actually, then they may end up in some of these camps for re-education. there are 70 of them in russia , the adviser to the president said so, do we know anything

about those children? look, what are the resettlement camps, resettlement camps - these are political schools of political re-education, which are combined with uh , forced labor, yes, they are both for children and for adults, and the camps that the president's bra said about, yes, they are at transit points, and when a child is taken away, they are deported she is first a transit point on the occupied territory, then she is taken to a transit point on the border territory of the russian federation, and then to the city where she will go to an orphanage. and for the year 2022, the occupier , there were mass cases of children in the russian federation in orphanages there or there you know the national anthem of ukraine, they sang or shouted that

russia had stolen their families, and so on and so on, and then , hmm, those citizens of the russian federation who took children back to them returned all the children because they were found to have some kind of disease and therefore, what did the russian federation do in order not to repeat these errors , let's say so, with regard to ukrainian children. they began to medically filter them, take only healthy ones, and after medical filtering , they began to re-educate them in these transit camps , yes, that is, they were forcibly taken political re-education is aimed at destroying the ukrainian identity in the mind of the child if yes and uh that's why they actually instill pro-russian ideology in children there with the ideas of the russian world we recently issued

a report on the ideology of how to enumerate of children er it is called ideological education of children in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine and there er on the last page of the report we added the methods by which children are raised through hashtags yes we managed to get these about these methods also when our specialists worked on these methods yes uh, about studying these methods, there are professors there, authors of books about ukrainian history, and they say that it is difficult even for an adult to understand the material that is presented in these methods. and we are talking about children, you understand that is why the occupiers are really trying to ideologically kill ukrainian ideology and ukrainian consciousness in children, and now these camps on the territory of the russian federation are overcrowded because they

are trying very hard there for four to five to six months before sending children to kindergartens of russian houses, where they are then distributed to russian families. they first treat them ideologically. that is the question that remains in my mind. we also raised it somehow today when we talked about the kharkiv story about the head of the department of education that we also cannot afford to leave teachers in the unoccupied territories and in the liberated territories who do not understand their mission because i see that intuitively or not intuitively, we know that he is not, not intuitively, the russians clearly know that you are what their teachers carry, they carry. it seems to me that theirs is some kind of excessive philosophy, an excessive philosophy of life, that is, contempt for life

, hatred for life was demeaning humiliation is eternal, but in the assertion of the power of such aggression, and that is, they promote it, and they, literally, this is that russian spirit. it is very much in them. but at this moment, look, i will tell you so, we will later, when we developed this report on exactly that topic, if you say we presented it in one of the embassies in ukraine, there were other diplomats, er, the conclusion of our experts is the russian federation because of this kind of war propaganda that it starts among teenagers, both its own children and those who were forcibly deported from the territory of ukraine they are preparing for a new war, they are teaching