[000:00:00;00] our planes, which have already landed in ukraine , american property, you have the same as they landed in myrhorod in 12 years ago, there are some conversations about the fact that they will not be able to land on ours on our concrete on the concrete slabs that are there er we have on airfield, will our infrastructure not be able to accept, well, this is the smallest problem . we still need to understand that the issue is complex. time, the same training of our engineers, pilots and combat control officers and the transfer of the aircraft itself - it is clear that it will not be a month or two and so on. we still have to wait, but this is a historic decision, it has been made and we are looking forward to when it will come, no one believed

no one believed in petriv in other weapons, but today we already have a question only in the quantity and difference of supplies, so that well, we really thought earlier when you said so calmly and confidently, mr. yuriy, that as soon as we get it, we will win the war. why, because just these the russians will not be able to see the planes. well, because they say that they are made in such a way that it is not very easy to find them in the air, that they are much longer-range than the russian russian planes, simply then the ukrainians will see the russians, the russians will not see the ukrainians in the sky, and accordingly well, then war, then sometimes it it is necessary to finish. is there any order? why do you say so convincingly and carefully that if we receive it, we will win the war, because i talk to many pilots, who explain all these things in great detail. i, er, want to say that the russians too they will see us and we will see at least we will have at least equal

opportunities, but in principle we understand that western weapons are still better in any case, as the air force commander said . it was in march not so long ago his meeting with his colleagues and these are the commanders of the air forces of nato countries of all nato countries, it was like this, someone online goes to that live , it must have been so, and he said that victory on the ground is forged in the sky, but aircraft technicians say the opposite victory in the sky is forged on on the ground, this was a phrase paraphrased in the opposite way. victory in our country shines in the sky. why. because superiority in the air gives huge , huge prospects , a really huge advantage on the ground. if you control the air, it is much easier to destroy the enemy from the air. sh- both defensive and offensive actions in order to gain superiority in the air. we need, of course, powerful

ground systems, these are means of air defense. we need aircraft that can not to lose to the enemy in tactical and technical characteristics. i just give you a literally simple example, the mig-29 flies for a short time, so it flies and wants to launch missiles. harm is it permissible? is it possible to use other weapons to hit the occupier in this way? the f-35 flies out to meet him , rather. 35 russian yes, he is already three times as far . i need to complete the task of our pilot will he fly over a 70-year-old plane, well, that pilot is twice as young as he is and the pilot releases missiles, knowing that a missile from a russian plane is already flying at him, do you understand the conditions under which our

pilots work, well, in what kind of risk do they take with his life today and in fact, when the russian plane launched the p-37 missile and an additional s400 can fly from the left, our pilot says everything, i launched my weapons at the enemy , he dives down and runs away from this missile at high speed on the bow, such a tactical technique today is the only one to avoid she found an enemy rocket thank you i apologize yuriy ignat is the spokesman for the wind forces team of the armed forces of ukraine i'm sorry we just have a program on and on and on thank you very much, the only thing i can add is that the first person to fly on public planes was the very first minister of defense of ukraine, pilot general morozov he showed me this footage and photos, remembering that in 1992

, he was the first who, under the soviet troops, simply went to serve in the ukrainian army and took the oath of loyalty to ukraine . hrytsko, a diplomat of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine , has been in touch with us for seven to nine years. i hope we will all see him now , mr. volodymyr . good health. thank you for finding the time for us . thank you very much. well, that's the kind of diplomat zelensky is now. i see that he is gradually turning into a diplomat. he traveled all over europe, then to saudi arabia, then to japan, and so on and so on. well, first of all, how effective is it

? i ask this question a lot people just sometimes ask me on the streets well, this morning some leader of some seven of one of the countries thought that's how the ukrainian president or the ukrainian minister came and what will he think differently one day how important is the word in conviction? well , he came and said, come on, let's go already f16 i'll say it like this, i think listen, well, they didn't give it yesterday the day before yesterday they didn't give it before the day before yesterday they thought maybe we'll give it or maybe we won't give it we don't know but we'll train pilots and maybe we won't train but today i came once oh let's do everything for how important it is it's just personal communication to what extent it convinces me, it is difficult to convince me. i don't know how i would do it if someone came to me and started to convince me of something. i would stay on my position for a long time, i need some super arguments , please, mr. volodymyr, you see, mykola

, usually this is the end of the process, that is, when e-e leaders meet and already at their level e-e make political decisions but before that, believe me, before that there is a huge amount of work at the technical e-e level at the level of working groups at the level of experts at the level of diplomats that is, this it's really a very, very long process, but when the leaders gather for the summit. and by the way , i'll tell you that it's an extremely effective form of work when you can visit or rather talk to five, seven , or ten leaders in one day, what if to make bilateral visits it would take several weeks or maybe even months, but here you can do it by hand and in

short ford the ground is prepared therefore , it's not just like that, something was interrupted, the minister , something was interrupted, something was interrupted, and resuscitation will now take place, mr. ogrizka my colleagues i am informed that at this very moment they are engaged in resuscitation. so, revitalizing the air and revitalizing the possibility of our communication with the minister of agrizka . well, i just have to talk for now, because otherwise, well, you all turn off the tv and go somewhere. drink tea, and me for these, because i am interested in you watching so that we might tell you something new. so, mr. grizko has appeared again. thank you to my colleagues for setting it up

again. so, the road from the idea to the realization is the road from the first thought, yes. f-16s and before what hiroshima said today . take it seriously, i.e. as the first ideas as the first thoughts as what at that time seemed absolutely cosmic but during all this time the situation itself suggested that we need these planes so today it is again a political decision what else has to turn into a practice and this is also not fast, that's why i think that such meetings are extremely important which give the opportunity to talk with many leaders at once about these or other

issues, outline what needs to be done next, and then this is already work at the technical level, now the question is about what mr. biden said that sooner or later he will meet with the leader of china, all xipin and i have the question arises. can there be such a somersault as in the 70s, it happened thanks to a messenger who proved to the chinese that they should be friends with the americans and not with the soviet union, in principle, it is possible for the alliance well , maybe not the alliance, but not enmity, not like that a broad political rivalry, an economic one, may arise between beijing and washington, what do you think about this, uh , you know after the victory over russia, i think that the situation in the world will undergo truly drastic changes, and they will affect uh,

almost the entire spectrum of relations of the civilized world with the rest of the world of the world today, china is marked in american aviation documents as the main, as the main challenge, the main threat, and this naturally imposes on the entire foreign defense policy of not only the united states, but also the western world, very serious limitation is obvious that if china retreats and moves to the line of normalization and mutual respect, and it has no other way out after the defeat of russia, then it is obvious that it is for it and for the rest of the world the best option, because the confrontation of china itself against of the civilized world will mean that he will lose, and i don't think it's a good idea, you understand. and tell me, maybe i'm wrong. i often

say in conversations over beer with friends that i have the impression that putin is interfering. and if america considers china to be the main focus of america on china an adversary in the economy, the military sector, and so on and so on in his political affairs, and they would have concentrated if it were not for russia’s war against ukraine, they were definitely concentrated there in the far east, the americans, and here putin appears under his feet, and he scrambles here and there and does not give if go to main to main course am i right that i have the impression that if it were not for the russian aggression and the ukrainian-russian, more precisely , the russian-ukrainian war, then the main thing would be if the world intrigue would be concentrated right there between america and china and here if from hemp

putin comes out and says that i will fight here. well, in america , there is no way to start helping ukraine. please, mr. minister. well , in the west, it is necessary to really eliminate russia so that it does not scramble and you say between the legs and then move on. to a truly two-wheeled world, when one pole will be civilization and democracy, what pole will it be? well, let's put it this way, if not one hundred percent autocracy , then well, to a certain extent, those regimes led by china, which will be somewhat far from democratic values, but if they carry whole itself, as they say, decently so why not, the world needs a chinese factory and it functions to produce

goods for the world, but to the extent that this factory does not begin to threaten others , that is, if russia will really remove the e-e from the e-e chessboard and on it there will be only two key figures left, the west and china. i will find much more understanding here, because this crazy muscovy with a nuclear baton that it waves in front of everyone's noses, it really poses a threat to this world and the civilized one, and not very much. thank you very much, volodymyr hrytsko, diplomat the minister of foreign affairs is from the seventh to the ninth years of this millennium, and we are moving to georgia, which is also of great interest to us, not only china, but also georgia, and it is interesting because some strange events are taking place there, which are not very

clear to me to understand them. i asked my colleagues to remember with a georgian diplomat, politician, economist and the first ambassador of georgia to ukraine, this is valery chichelashvili, mr. valery, good health , good health. thank you for the invitation, it is very pleasant to work with you. thank you, a huge question that i ask all guests from georgia because i really honestly can't fully understand you, do you remember the ukrainian language? so i can speak with you in ukrainian and you can speak with me in russian or well , the main thing is not georgian, because i definitely didn't understand anything. so, watch 84 or the latest sociology a-a percentages say that we are for europe and nato, georgians on the other hand

are ready to vote for this georgian dream , well, at least 50% today well, good 45 and i sit and think, and the georgian dream is obvious in words maybe it is for europe, nato, but in business they are for russia and for russia how to explain it from the point from the point of view of sociology , from the point of view of the attitudes of georgian society, thank you, thank you for the invitation, this is a very interesting question . to be precise, it should be said that 85% support

georgia's membership in the european union, and somewhere around 75% support georgia's membership in nato. georgia's approach to the european space of the european union and nato, however, because of zepetuyu , every time the representatives of the right-wing government party say that in fact we are born with hard work and we will run to the european union, make all the reforms and so on, of course it does not sound very convincing but for the part of the followers of the georgian dream and their voters who naturally consider membership in the european union to be the main task , they still remain in captivity in captivity

of these convictions that there is no georgian dream he still does everything so that this means that he is sincere about the european union, well, the picture changes, because it means that the last event related to this cancellation of visas is a ban on direct communication. the first plane has arrived. well, that's all . actions that started from the airport now, the action is going in front of the parliament, and people are starting to actively express their position, well, yes. as for the georgian dream, it plays with its electoral fire because of what the more people will understand the situation, the less will be the electoral support for the georgian dream, this is all fraught with the next parliamentary elections of the 24th year, mr. ambassador, and

the important question is that we would never touch it. true information , all of us. all that we are talking to you, the georgian population, the georgian people know that planes began to fly for canceled visas, that in march there were protests against this law on the war of agents and so on, this society understands what is happening. well, i have to tell you that so far we have problems with expressing your opinion. there is no position because there are four very powerful opposition tv channels in georgia right now . your humble servant appears almost every day on all these four channels

, they have a very large audience , there are very many telegram channels, youtube channels, and so on. well, they are already talking about the printed press and so on. public opinion about the problems so far. in any case, the political parties do not have the correct sector. there are also problems here. for example, the general director of the main opposition television channels has no goods in the army. he is in prison . we will simply point the finger at the man. the man was sentenced to three and a half years. he is already i spent a year, but nevertheless, it means that we have communication channels with the community, there are very good ones, including four opposition channels, which means that there are also georgian channels. the society will not allow it to repeat itself here, the russian scenario that began there in the 12th year with this

law on the exchange of agents, and then the nuts were gradually restricted. with scabies there with nightingales there with margaritas and so on yes, but here this cannot be allowed and this will not happen, and the proof of this is the speech of the seventh and eighth of march 9 in georgia, which the ruling party and the ruling party will withdraw the same law, it will be put on the shoes of agents from the parliament and put a cross on it. but look at the parliament of georgia and explain it. tell us what is happening there . they are not letting the president of georgia in brussels. my colleagues just informed me. and what there is some kind of scandal surrounding

the visit of the president to brussels . and what is the parliament against? it means, as the constitution says, she is authorized to represent georgia in the system of international relations. the agreement of the government is literally verbatim. i have now prostrated , so the government may or may not prevent the president from going on a business trip . - that's a very controversial story because the president nodded to the government's government or chained the decree to which, so to speak , confirmed that it did not interfere well, anyway , now it seems that these are all problems

ресшены и тре- 31 march, as far as i know, her speech in the european parliament is planned. well, we know approximately what she will talk about there, but what is important to me alone is what the european parliamentarians and the representatives of the european parliament will say to the president. maybe this will eventually encourage her to take a more decisive position and take advantage of the rights that she has under this constitution, this is the right to pardon, and first of all, this concerns nika glarami, about whom i have already spoken i don't mind. tomorrow, let him out of prison. after that, there will probably be time to think about the third president of georgia . well , there is a legal problem.

the question is precisely about saakashvili, i was in georgia exactly one month before the great war in the year 22. well, i asked different people there, this is not sociology, just there at a table somewhere over wine over barbecues, and i saw that the population, well at least the people with whom i spoke were not for the modern leaders, they criticized him a lot, but not for saakashvili , and i asked them then and now i will ask you this question, so what kind of president do you need, what do you want, yes, yes, you can't and that bad one fell, the microphone prompts, well, the end of the program will sit like this, did you hear what i asked valery

, gentlemen ? but the question is in what year will this take place? i said you said it was on the 22nd . oh, one month before the beginning of the great war , this means that this is a huge problem of georgian society, because we also have such a black and white movie, which means that it is our main the problem is because the society is very polarized, it means there are people who adore saakashvili and there are people who hate him, there are people who adore him, there are people who adore him, there are people who hate him, there are people who hate him, and all the views that hate him, and this is uh, and this all leads to the polarization

of society, apolized, fragmented society is very easy to manage, it is easy to manipulate, that is why our friends, including those in the european union , are so worried about the fact that the georgian one is politicized, and our enemies, first of all , in moscow. - easier water- catches fish and in principle it is well, this is such a thing, well, the politics of russia divides its own there, the empire, the restoration of the sr-2, it is no one, it is not the same, it is expanded, and so on . russia launched this barbaric war against ukraine now that in georgia , in georgia it is clear that more and more people means the majority, in any case, electricity .

the current government is in some anticipation of the emergence of some new political forces, this is very very clearly felt because the majority of eh means that today they are not ready to vote for any of the current political parties, this means that there is a very large resource for political parties in order to better present their programs of their introduction and so on , to nominate new charismatic leaders who are not yet associated with any of the current political forces, in any case, this is a free political field, and i think that in on the eve of the elections of the 24th year, we will observe very interesting developments. what is happening in ukraine today with the heroic resistance

of the ukrainian people, because of how soon ukraine will win, and it will be on the border of the 91st year and will inflict defeat on russia. it depends not only on the configuration of european security and the global context of security, but also on the development of the political situation in many countries, including in georgia. such a specific environment in which, er, we will observe very interesting development of political trends in the next hour and a half last question mr. ambassador just what you say reminds ukraine of the 19th year. when all the old politicians

, well, let's call them that. let them not be offended. georgia, because we know that the event of march is the youth, that's who first of all spoke out against this law about agents and stood on the central streets of tbilisi. these were young people. you can wait for a change of generations. this is a very good question, because it really is there were young people who were driven by the power of these protestors who fought on march 7-8 and on march 9 in tbilisi, i saw a lot of young charismatic people there , because i also took part in these manifestations , and then on.

young guys whose last names i don't even know, they appeared later on the central channel on this opposition channel of ours, about which channels i spoke about, they were so convincing, so balanced, so smart, it seemed to me that this was completely new the quality that i presented to myself is that these are the guys who have already begun to enter universities without bribes and finish them from bribes . yes, this is completely new. if they could form a symbiosis of actual political experience and instructional opportunities with the opportunities of these new, fresh political ones, that's exactly what emojis are called emerging in the eyes of the forces, and integrate these new new political ones faces in their structures, it would be very