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to all the viewers and we start with the situation in bakhmut, the situation there is critical, the deputy minister of defense hanna malyar reported, our troops are holding the defense in the area of ​​the ukrainian aircraft. the defenders control certain industrial and infrastructure facilities in this area and the private sector, formerly the head of the private military campaign, wagner yevgeny prigozhin once again declared that the mercenaries control the territory of the entire bakhmut, eight strikes were carried out by the ukrainian force defense aircraft in a day on the areas where the occupiers were concentrated our rocket launchers of the artillery troops hit four fir trees of the concentration of weapons and military equipment of the enemy, they also destroyed one ammunition depot and four artillery units, the russians fired three missiles on the territory of ukraine, they also fired more than five dozen times from the air force and more than 40 times from rocket salvo fire systems, the visit of the president ukraine's volodymyr zelenskyi to japan for the g7 summit was a turning point

in the game, french president manuel macron said, he assured that france will be with ukraine until the very end, also ukrainian the president held talks with the prime minister of great britain, rishi sunak, the prime minister of italy, giorgi melon, and the prime minister of india, in a fashion show. also, as the german chancellor, olaf scholz, the european leaders declared that it was extremely important that zelensky personally visit the league first before the trip to japan, the leaders of the arab states agreed to strengthen sanctions against moscow and reduce the influence on china. the presence of the ukrainian president at the g-7 summit in hiroshima, the first place that was subjected to a nuclear attack, symbolizes

the west's concerns about the nuclear threat from moscow met with george meloni, the head of the italian government , we saw how our agreements from the negotiations in rome are being implemented of decisions by the prime minister of great britain britain very actively took up modern fighter jets for ukraine and these are historical things next week a meeting of the contact group will take place on matters of defense of ukraine in rammstein format this was announced by minister of defense oleksiy reznikov, they will talk about the so-called coalition of fighter jets, the program provides for the training of ukrainian pilots on fourth -generation fighter jets as a result of the turkish shelling

, the donetsk regional military administration reports that the russians actually covered the entire city with hail residential buildings and other civilian objects were damaged, including a hospital among the wounded, an 11 -year-old child was given medical aid to all the victims, their condition was arbitrary, and the russians shelled the front-line villages in the zaporizhzhia region at night, 36 houses were damaged in tauriysk, 10 households in malitok machka and more than four dozen homes in the upper terce this was reported by the head of the region, yuriy malashko, as a result of the shelling , residents of six regions remain without electricity , the ministry of energy reported that the power was cut part of consumers in donetsk region, zaporizhzhia, sumy region, kharkiv region, kherson region and chernihiv region, 5,000 consumers are disconnected from electricity in kyiv and the region, currently

most of them are alive, repairs are underway at zaragoza air base in spain , an f-18 fighter jet crashed during a demonstration flight, the pilot managed to eject in time, saving his life, as confirmed government officials the fighter had a technical problem the plane crashed after the pilot managed to perform an ejection maneuver from the cockpit the incident occurred on the territory of the air base without harm to population, the daughter of the head of the russian foreign ministry, sergey lavrova, flew to georgia for a wedding near the hotel where she settled, clashes between activists and the police began, local media write, the situation began to escalate after the activists began throwing eggs at a minibus leaving the hotel, shouting that russians have no place in georgia, the protests continue, the demonstrators they demand from citizens of the russian federation to immediately leave the territory of the hotel, after

a certain time the law enforcement officers began to arrest them, so far the police detained about 20 people and took them to the nearest police stations of police stations for questioning in the kyiv region, teenagers raped an 11-year-old girl after drinking alcoholic beverages, and a 20-year-old man filmed it. the police of the region reported that the violence was committed in one of the villages of the fastiv region. three girls aged 14 to 17 held the girl until she was fifteen . the young man committed violence , the police arrested all the perpetrators , doctors and psychologists are helping the child involved, he faces up to 15 years of imprisonment, we are waiting for the heroes of mariupol, under this

slogan, a march took place in the center of kyiv dedicated to the anniversary of the withdrawal from azov, hundreds of people came out to khreshchatyk defenders of mariupol resisted the enemy for 86 days 19 soldiers of the mariupol garrison are currently in russian captivity may 20, the anniversary of the occupation of mariupol, on that day the last ukrainian servicemen left azovstal according to the calculations of the mariupol city council , 200,000 mariupol residents left on internally displaced persons are warmly welcomed in the controlled territory of ukraine in 17 support centers for displaced persons , we will find out what assistance is provided in the lviv center right now nataliya beyda from mariupol brought her ten-year-old son volodymyr to a master class in cross-stitching . the boy creates a rose ornament on fabric for the first time . we have such a varied leisure time

. went with my husband and son from mariupol in march 2022, he just collected literally 10 minutes and went to an unknown place, i do not know, or it was very scary when we left, we approached the first the ukrainian checkpoint is known for real. everyone cried. everyone cried. a man brought us and went to defend the country in lviv. natalya and her son were taken in by their relatives in addition to housing , so they needed other help and turned to the center. i am mariupol, a part of us that just moved to lviv. yes, when you come and meet friends all the same, its people and somehow you know it warms you up and you want to go here, where we regularly receive both food and psychological help , in addition to the embroidery circle in the center of mariupol

, other events are held for children and adults master classes, educational events are very cool. we have igroland, where children can just come and play board games. if we see that more people need to talk to a psychologist, they have meetings , have coffee, watch movies. in july 2022, since that time legal , social, psychological and medical assistance has not been provided here , specialists from the center have successfully employed 145 mariupol citizens every month internally they receive food and hygiene kits, but we help in equipping with which shelters and point we try to resettle people somewhere not only this is not only about humanitarian aid or some other this is to sing they know that we understand them they understand us in the center

about 3700 received help of displaced people, despite the fact that the city of maria has been occupied for a year, people continue to arrive in lviv, if we take last week, the first new ones registered with us were 45 people, so there are people leaving on foot, and there are people going through europe soon lviv i mariupol will expand in plans to open a full-fledged household center with a laundry, hairdressing room, seamstresses and dentistry for privileged categories, services will be provided free of charge kateryna oliynyk vadym shyshmatsky tv channel espresso and that was all the news at that time updated final issue wait for 21:00 and literally in a moment you will meet my colleagues vitaly portnikova and anzhelika sezonenko and what do you think about lakalut

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the capital kyiv from the occupiers . well, let's talk about the fact that ours are advancing in bakhmut. what is the situation there? disarmament, congratulations, mr. mykhailo, we congratulate you, i congratulate you well, let's start with bakhmut, there are conflicting reports about what is happening in the city, in the russian public , they emphasize that russia is already completely controlled by bakhmut, and the head of the ministry of defense of ukraine, wagner yevgeny prigozhin, said this and this information is arranged by the deputy minister defense anomaler literally before our broadcast emphasized that the situation in bakhmut is critical, but the defense officers are controlling

certain objects that can really happen in fact, the entire operation for the defense of bakhmut was formed in a complex manner, difficult to understand, but with clear goals that were determined by our command, that is, against the background of the fact that the russian troops are mainly representatives of the so-called wagner group of the so-called private military campaign, although, of course, there are no private military companies in russia does not exist, they were advancing in the city, they are using various e-e tools of artillery , aviation to actually destroy the place and try to advance the city, and the ukrainian army is trying to advance at this moment using various defensive measures began, let's say, a few days ago, although this period can be said to be longer, quite active actions began on the flanks, that is, in the very place and around the city

, that is, from the south and from the north, trying to cut off in a plan around bakhmut to capture -e reigning heights and create conditions for the actual creation of a cauldron in bahmut, that is , there are two such opposing tendencies , on the one hand, it is obvious that the handsome man would like to finally declare victory and finally receive dividends from what he has put there in fact, tens of thousands of these wagnerites, who were basically just convicts whom they recruited and rehearsed. and the ukrainian army is taking measures to create conditions for the capture of bahmut and to create a kind of mousetrap in which the same wagners can end up in these though baths though prigozhin has already announced that he will withdraw his troops on may 25, replacing them with russian regular

troops, obviously everyone would like to. wow, he has already declared victory, in fact, and will quickly escape from there so that when we do, ishlovka will begin to close regular troops were there and he could announce that you see, i took it and they could not hold it, do we have the opportunity to surround bakhmut, which you are talking about and in what perspective is it the closest? of course, yakir reserves, for example, will be pulled up by the russian army, because again, everything may depend on the plans of the ukrainian command, we do not know them for sure, of course, and thank god, the russians can really now try anything to hold bakhmut and charge reserves in including from other areas of the front, which are no less important from the point of view of ukraine, in the armed forces of ukraine, which are planning active actions

in the next summer campaign, and therefore, there is also an important point that by withdrawing reserves from other areas of the front, the russian army will obviously expose er and create er let's say the opportunities for the ukrainian army in those areas where the ukrainian army will carry out its offensive actions, that is , the situation is developing very comprehensively, very diversely and what is present in the information space is only information that or whether they captured it or not, in fact the picture is much more complicated and in fact ukraine is in control of the situation, mr. mykhailo, let's talk about the f16 fighters , now the spokesman of the ukrainian air force, yuriy grab, said that if they give us these fighters, we will win this war, but in principle, these planes are real can enter the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces in a few months, it is possible that it will be there in the best

version in the fall, and this also indicates that the time of winning the war itself seems to me to be perceived differently by different speakers and in society, and most importantly, the training of our pilots will only begin, so if we are talking about the f16 here, in fact , the question is not only about the pilots, but it will be necessary to modernize our infrastructure a lot, because it is a complex plane, it is a plane of the cold war, when a lot of money was invested. well, this is an aircraft of the united states of america, which, of course, did not spare any resources to create the most efficient aircraft , but of course its maintenance of the base, and of course the training of specialist pilots and so on further, even three lanes in the airfields, it needs a special relationship, especially a special investment, that is why, in principle, the biden administration constantly said that this

is a very expensive thing, not the plane itself, but rather the uh -uh. thing it can take a long time, first of all, the exchange rate is going to be billions of dollars and it can take time, that is, i, for example, uh , still, i like the idea of ​​swedish planes green, why because they were created by a small country, uh, relatively, of course sweden is a large country, but it treats its resources very sensibly, and the airplane was created precisely with the understanding that it is necessary, for example, to be based directly on the autobahn, you can sit down and be serviced there by specialists who can be trained for a short time so that it uses civil aviation fuel and not such and not a special one in 16. that is, this plane is more

suitable for ukraine , but unfortunately there are few of them, that is, again, they can be gathered. the united states has more opportunities to transfer them to us, again, it's a matter of time, absolutely right, and they paid attention to when they can give them to us. especially since these discussions that we are already conducting, well, exactly a year about the f-16. unfortunately , the biden administration, i think, has lost a lot time on this conversation and instead of really moving on to the transmission in 16 we had discussions the fact is that in ukraine it is still necessary to change the soviet aviation, well, it is just the physics of the process in fact even before february 24 last year we had plans to change aviation somewhere in the 25th year, in any case, because we have aviation from the soviet union, the aircraft can be 40-50 years old. well, here and besides the fact that their characteristics are much worse than those of the

16th or even the russian aviation. another problem is that the physical age of these planes does not allow them to continue to be used. please tell me, mr. mykhailo, do you understand the real military meaning of these daily bombings of kyiv with missiles, and there are practically no daytime bombings at night? the dead night begins this is how missiles or drones arrive, why is putin doing this? if we talk about missiles, then it seems to me why at night because there is psychological pressure, that is, so that the ukrainians of kiev , uh, stay up all night and find themselves in prose , well, that’s the only way i can explain it, because for missiles, in principle, it makes no sense when they are launched, but for the shaheds, the night period is deliberately chosen because then it is more difficult for the ukrainian air defense system to notice them, and it is necessary to spend more time and resources in order to

shoot them down, from the point of view of why in general they do it, it's very difficult to say what they always have, what kind of plans are very difficult to unravel. well, for example, in the winter it was clear that they want to destroy our energy infrastructure . although from a military point of view, this is absolute idiocy, they spent huge resources, er, very expensive missiles, but as a result we have achieved our goal, now they obviously have a task , after all, it is complex, it can be a check , and stress, let's say, the load of the ukrainian air defense system, they obviously would like to destroy the system petrivka is now creating huge problems for russia, because it does not allow the use of even daggers, because for the first time ukraine shot down such a mythical missile that putin was very fond of and thus destroyed the last myth that

putin used to automate in his speeches and constantly said that it was on purpose a terrible weapon is actually not terrible, the ukrainians have shown that they can effectively use western weapons petre of course, they would like to destroy the patriot in order to have a weaker system in kyiv air defense systems sometimes help with geolocation clearly. what do you think? maybe it is necessary to somehow strengthen the responsibility for such actions, because when just some bloggers are sitting in the sbu , sorry. oh, i didn’t think or i didn’t think , well, this is not very normal in a country where people die every day. well, me it seems that nothing needs to be done here, because if you take a clear legal definition of what it is, it is work on the development of the enemy. that is, it can

be classified as such that from a legal point of view, what kind of process is carried out by those people who take photographs, for example, the arrival of... and especially if they still identify the coordinates, that is, the enemy immediately launches a missile attack, but they can immediately assess the effectiveness of where they hit, how much they missed and thus can adjust, firstly, their strikes, and secondly , if it is a missile that goes astray, they can understand where the system is located air defense is ukrainian, and that's why these actions of bloggers or just people who, ah, just try , i don't know, to publish in themselves somewhere on the channel, uh , such things, this is really work for the enemy's intelligence - it's actually for intelligence, well, that is

it can be said that, for example , russian intelligence can pay for this if it were proven that someone is being paid for it. you still help well, of course, if you do not knowingly kill a person, it is also a responsibility. yes , in fact, before the reconnaissance of missile strikes, it leads to very terrible tragic consequences, so i think that the responsibility it should be much tougher, and the classification of such actions should be tougher, simple apology. i think this is not enough. tell me, mr. mykhailo, in principle . and what can we say about daggers with calibers , we can say that this war and their a meeting with the pioneers, they are spectrovts , they to some extent destroyed the very myth that these missiles cannot be destroyed by any air defense system, absolutely, absolutely , before that, the russians were particularly proud of their

dagger, that is, they said that it was hypersonic weapons why did they emphasize this because in fact its subsonic weapon is not even a real weapon in the armed forces of the united states, that is, they are now only engaged in, they missed a little bit, lost a little bit of time and started investing now after the beginning of the large-scale invasion of russia and that is why they are lagging behind a little but in fact, the russians did not create a hypersonic collection weapon - it is a pseudo-hypnotic weapon, it is actually an air-based ballistic missile, which is launched from a height, and which allows it to ah ballistic trajectory when it starts to go on the target to actually reach hypersonic speeds, but this is not because it has a really hypersonic system of e engines , for example. and it is due to the use of altitude and ballistic trajectory

. it is impossible to shoot it down because it is so fast , especially on the last part of the flight , that it is impossible to do it . the defense-industrial complex, or rather the military-industrial complex, is probably not about defense here, and it is not for nothing that you may have heard that people designers and engineers who had something to do with the creation of these daggers have already been arrested, well, we know for sure why it was done, but not exclusively because it is possible that putin perceived this situation historically and ordered to punish those people who allegedly lied to him, because maybe they just gave him the information that

it was the invincible rocket as a stalinist times can be said, then he got upset well, nothing happens, he will be upset more than once in his life until the end mykhailo samsum expert of the center mykhailo samsum from these accent studies of the army , conversion and disarmament, we were in touch with him and now we will talk with politicians, diplomats, immortal novels greetings, mr. roman, we congratulate you, mr. roman. let's start with something else. those same tvs, the group of seven , which are talked about a lot. by the central asian presidents and did not invite the president of the russian federation. why do you think this is happening at all? it's just that russia is losing its influence in the post-soviet space on the one hand, on the other hand, between may 9, we saw all this five, not the eight in moscow, the five in moscow was because that she acted as a shield and actually she was brought there literally in a day and it is known that even some of them refused and

putin himself had to call i'm not talking about the fact that he didn't even show up that's aliyev, but he found reasons, but in fact, if we take the last 10 years, then within the framework of the sos, and within the framework of the bilateral dialogue and the chinese idea of ​​one belt, one road . it was not beijing that played a dominant role in this work, but moscow, this is the first time when they leave, it took courage to show that it is ready to implement its own project , but at the same time, as is known, during the last meeting in the kremlin between sisinping and putin in fact, the discussion included the involvement of russia in an even bigger project that they are now