[000:00:00;00] uh, all of this pin is not for nothing, it was conducted by siam, this is the ancient imperial capital, this is the silk road, and it is frightening by and large , here i will show you a caricature from the chinese press , you see this is the chinese hand, central asia is against the background of our war, and here the american eagle is flying over this you can even try it, you don’t know how to show the audience a caricature of this and it says that china perceives this meeting as an outstretched hand as an alternative to the concern of the central asian countries about their future, and

therefore of course there is a lot of this these calls took place for the first time, i already remembered this summit for the 70th anniversary of the president of kazakhstan on his birthday , they met on his birthday. true, it would be logical that the president of kazakhstan celebrated his birthday in russia, true , as the main allied countries, as a former neighbor in the soviet union, and he went absolutely in the opposite direction, the conversation about military cooperation with kazakhstan and uzbekistan are key countries in the region, then it is important that china can guarantee a certain stability of tajikistan, which is in a difficult situation due to the fact that it has a real conflict with the taliban government in afghanistan and its children. rahman is also very

seriously afraid of destabilization of its regime , what is china doing in the face of this to show it that china can do everything ? under sanctions that does not fly anywhere and they are holding a tripartite meeting there, the minister of foreign affairs of pakistan, zeidari, and the minister of foreign affairs of the taliban, this is not recognized by anyone, including china , the regime , but they are talking. has an influence even on this situation for president rahman - it is very important because he sees that not only russia can

talk with the taliban. a very important moment and there are many such moments and the most important thing is the demonstration of the format itself because it would be possible to learn something there in the year 91, it seems, when the soviet union collapsed, there was an idea to create an organization of confidence-building measures on the path between the post-former soviet republics and china, this now the shanghai cooperation organization has outgrown these frameworks, there were russia, five central asian countries and china, this is the format, now we see exactly the same format, only putin was not invited for some reason, although a large part of the territory of the russian federation is located in asia. well, because he is a loser, now because china wants to show that he is the leader of the region. and by the way, these same trends have already started. do you remember that we discussed samarkand, too, in fact , when putin came to this meeting of the shanghai cooperation organization to show that he is not in isolation, what is going on or can he be in the club of other leaders. suddenly he

felt himself there and it was visible throughout the protocol. i am just a former leader of the soviet republic. here is rahman. putin and if the ringing king of the mountains to which everyone is foaming at the mouth. by the way, it is fashionable who today met with volodymyr zelenskyi in er hiroshima. but this is also an important meeting, they were the main players there, and putin was no longer there, and i think that when these calls his delegation looked at all this, and then they decided why is he needed there at all, let him sit at home and celebrate may 9. happy holiday . that's the whole story .

this is why china cooperates so fruitfully with russia even before a full-scale invasion. even there, they signed this huge memorandum about deepened cooperation , it does not mean war, it means making it clear that relations can deteriorate in the event of some unforeseen events, and the chinese always did it by the way. after the pandemic, to astana and there, kylo said that china would guarantee the territorial integrity of kazakhstan among them, before that , samarkand itself there, these were not just words it was a signal and it was heard in moscow, and moscow understands very well that in this situation of international isolation that moscow found itself after the attack on ukraine, it cannot risk at least relations with china, because relations with india are like this, you understand, they are absolutely not guaranteed, india has never been it is guaranteed that he is with such a government , and he is with the soviet union and with russia , then good things are incredible, only then the government changes , the ruling pact or something else and suddenly india

turns out to be ready for much more fruitful cooperation - this is an event for rendering modi, he is now holding not just a bilateral meeting in hiroshima and not just coming to the summits. there is this format of the pacific four in which india participates together with the united states and australia, and it is a format of military cooperation, not only economic and political. china does not want to take such formats, but india takes moreover, he is absolutely sure that this is in the national interests of india, because india has difficult relations with china, india is afraid of the strengthening of china's influence on the pacific coast, india does not want does not want china to control the maritime spaces and india has territorial disputes with china and the more russia gets closer to china, the more it causes serious suspicions in india, which means that india is, of course , a country that buys russian oil, which can

be a laundry for russian oil but along with this, it is by no means an obvious union, which china is an obvious union because it is if you want an idea about the values ​​of the common , after all, again, at work today , the prime minister is indian, but he is the leader of a country with an electoral democracy, he can lose elections may not be wasted because he is a strong leader and can gain power for a long time, but he always defends the fact that in the state of karnataka , one of the leading windy states, the people's party will not yield and it lost to the english national congress. well , nothing happened, the earthquake in turkey, which we are talking about we talked about the president of such things, that cardigan, he has a very good relationship with putin, but this is an electoral democracy, erdogan can win, but he does not control all the largest cities in turkey, neither istanbul nor

anchors, nor the stock market, there is nothing there, nor is he everywhere lost the local elections and there are opposition mayors. well, that's the same. imagine something like that in china or in russia, that the mayor of moscow speaks against this war of aggression and that putin's moscow is for peace, well, it's just a disaster , it's the end of the regime, the truth is just coming here , too those who are against the war will not be jailed in our city, but in turkey very similar things are happening in india there and in which state such a party is in power and the leaders of this party can be against the government of india, so this is not the right level of the union, the level of the union is emerging then when there is not even a hint of electoral democracy, you understand, modi evdogan is a strong leader in countries with complex electoral democracy, not western, but these are democracies , and china - russia are authoritarian countries, and that is

why putin can think. varshara masa before he could think oh, i will stay with such a uh rahmon vapor and so on well now it is clear that nothing will escape volodymyr excuse me here we are in the union with china please yourself if you want to make some kind of international visit, i would like to kindness to how human and this is the russian federation, well, fly about your time, the country is big, oh, big, the largest territory in the world, well, fly , what’s in your head , well, there are also african countries, you understand, but it’s also like that, you see that the president of south africa wants to visit, i want to come here and why because this is an electoral democracy, again, these are allies after all, if your ally is the president of a country that is due to hold elections, then this is not the ally with which you would like to do business, and all these countries, of course, in the event of

a quarrel between russia and china, unequivocally unequivocally they support china, that is, ira remains even on north korea, because if north korea has to choose between russia and china, it is not like between mom and dad. it is a choice between a real state on which the premyan is oriented and a state that can simply help because if city pin says putin, we apologize, you should respect the sovereignty of our countries that are friendly with you, the more you are in the union with them, we are in the union with them, then moscow hears this, believe me. and this meeting is with fashion. by the way, zelensky and not only zelensky, but also the united states of america australia is also the four that you talked about. it can somehow shift india's position to a more neutral position on war. i think that a neutral position on war is not fashionable because he was one of the first world leaders to clearly publicly tell putin that war in the 21st

century is not acceptable. and by the way, this also characterizes him, he is a sharp person, the whole of india knows this. he behaves. well, his whole life is the way you want to say to anyone, he says that when he was not the prime minister and when he simply told putin to his face, putin is there he turned pale but he has another problem he has a problem because he needs the indian economy and he is a person who somehow wants to show his co-citizens that they live better to feed such an abyss of people this is the country with the largest population in the world now he cheap oil is needed, if he did not need russian energy, russian energy resources, he would not support it, it would absolutely be indicano, and that is why he can meet with zelensky. he says that we will do everything we can, that is, that we will convince russia

but to what extent he can physically replace russian oil with oil that is 2-3 times more expensive there, this is no longer his question, this is the principle of the united states, if they also have problems because they have worsened relations with saudi arabia, if you are involved, the united states was able to provide the same india's purchase of oil at subsidized prices , which could be compared with the valuable ones for which it is forced not to want to be forced to sell oil to russia , then, in principle, india depends on russia for energy, plus this effect is correct for european countries he would have disappeared, well, india by and large is following the path taken by the countries of western europe who believed that they could buy cheap energy from russia and nothing bad would happen, they already understood what would happen, but they have the opportunity to replace cheap

energy with expensive ones without such i would say a critical drop in the economy and the social standard of living of the population. and we understand that there are not many opportunities for others like mm, and the main thing is that putin cannot blackmail elegant fashion now. i will sell oil, well, the largest, well, of ukraine, or wash some of your own rogozin there, there are already others under sanctions. we can’t, well, that is, india and china remain as big markets, a certain venezuela sold oil to india better than, er, russia, but we need to work with it. do you understand the volume and if we say what we hope that the economy of india should develop, we all want it because the indian economy is again the economy of electoral democracy should become a good alternative to the chinese

economy, then you are not we always have to ask myself where to get oil for the development of such an economy well, that's why it's like this i would say it's such complex problems that need to be solved but they were not solved in one day , in any case, when a fashionable outfit meets zelensky, it's a signal, just such a powerful signal that was when he told putin that it was necessary to end the war and when he canceled it. by the way, it was russia . india. he was alive. he wasn’t there. last year he even said that he didn’t want to. well, that’s also a signal. that is , i don’t think that it’s a change of position. i think that it’s just a combination political evaluation and economic problems of the samoyed people in relation to saudi arabia, what i wanted to ask you was that you already mentioned that they had their own internal interests there, why invite zelenskyi , however, it is interesting what we brought from there, because somehow, you know, this topic was not a public space, even on

the president's website, very publicly they said that they spoke with the prince, who is also the prime minister, and told him about the security situation of prince muhammed, this is just a vivid example of a non-public politician, his actions are not so easily traced in momentary to some extent, but then it becomes absolutely clear why he needed all this. i think that we will meet again from this situation. first, the prince obviously wants to be the leader of the arab world, friend, he is trying to understand how he can also use the weakening of russia, including energy for strengthening the energy positions of saudi arabia, they always do this, of course, in principle, they have good personal relations with vladimir putin, but people who generally believe that they can have good personal relations with family members they were very often disappointed in the saudis, this is just a vivid example of such a family management that takes care of its own interests and

, by and large, the interests of the kingdom of saudi arabia coincide, as a rule, with the interests of this family, because this is where the whole state is simply arranged, it is a theocracy by and large on the account, it is simply not religious, but well, not a single religion by a large account, the king e-e preserves the shrines of mecca and medina, this is in essence also a theocracy, also because he, his power rests on the symbols of the main the symbols of islam and er here , i think there was a check. first, to what extent zelensky is ready to recognize his role as such a player that a person can. the framework of the agenda of the liberal arab state is focused on the owners of the problems, but there is this ukrainian-russian problem, it is such

a different problem of relations with russia as with oil exporters, which surrenders its positions in which restricts the purchase of oil from a western country and how we should act here. that is, this is such a check, so far it is possible to show volodymyr zelenskyi, this is a club of influential people, let's not doubt that there are very influential people there, the monarch of bahrain, the monarch of qatar , the monk of kuwait, this is all the interhetics of the world well, except there russia, iran and venezuela. well, this club is real and closed. by the way , it is also closed by this arab unity, which is also a very difficult contradiction. you see that the prince invited basharas. yes, not everyone was delighted , the king of morocco was not, but on the other hand morocco supplies us with weapons and active participants of rammstein, that is, there can be absolutely different positions, there are arab countries that adhere to absolutely i would say such civilization-civilizational positions in this

conflict without any e-e in semitones and there are countries that try to be neutral and i i think that the very appearance of volodymyr zelenskyi on this neutral country could have an impact, you know why, because they did not see that the president of ukraine received an invitation from the crown prince of saudi arabia and countries that are oriented energy you understand it's not just that simple muhammad doesn't do anything just like that he hasn't invited putin yet i wonder what will come out of this actually we'll watch the future decisions and actions of these countries of saudi arabia and i also propose to talk about georgia because it landed yesterday if i'm not mistaken the first flight was from russia in tbilisi, and mass protests began again, and the president of georgia zarabishvili said that this airline should be blocked, but it is interesting that it does not

have such a significant role at all. vitaly yes in the republics, everything is decided by the parliament, and it turns out that in some such deadlock situations, the georgians themselves are not against it, but they cannot do anything . i think that in any case, georgian society must sooner or later draw electoral conclusions from this situation, and georgian politicians also for the same reason right here, the mood of the society itself is of great importance, agree that you and i saw the decision of vladimir putin but it was not georgia that canceled direct communication with russia , but russia with georgia georgia was always in favor of that for this direct air connection to be normal in this situation when the russian federation is under international sanctions and the airline companies were the first to be hit by these sanctions - this is georgia's willingness to agree with putin's decision, it does not look very pleasant, but still i want

to remind you that georgians after the war in 2008, they believed that they could have contact with russian business, that you could not have a direct flight to moscow, that they could have russian tourists, that they could have a visa-free regime for russians, i always said i said then and i will say now that this was the wrong approach. if we go this way, we will also be in a dead end . mykhailo saakashvili canceled visas for citizens of the russian federation. it was a wrong decision because if you were attacked by a country with which you canceled diplomatic relations and which next time after your e-e , those citizens of yours who lived in the territory of the southern session and the only thing they called that they were ethnic georgians were simply kicked out of their homes, it is unlikely that you should welcome the citizens of this country to your home at least from

for tourist purposes, if a person with a political purpose who is against this war and who supports georgia wants to visit you again, well, let her get a visa and she will come and speak at international conferences, this is an absolutely normal situation, but when you want uh, crowds of people to invite there because it is money, sooner or later this money will lead your country to a dead end, i think that mykhailo saakashvili understands this perfectly now because he is against the restoration of air traffic with russia. i do not blame him at all, i do not blame him because we understand this we are always the first to follow this path, and now it is very easy to blame anyone for anything, but i am just warning that there is already georgian experience, but after this war, i am sure that we should maintain a visa regime with russia. of course, we

would never dream of seeing russians . here today we don't want it tomorrow we will want it georgians also didn't want to see it in 2008, don't forget that georgia still doesn't have diplomatic relations with russia and what did it affect well, there are no tourists, especially now when they are fleeing from the military ticket you know that they are those people here, everything has just changed, they turned those people who oppose putin's regime into georgia, at the beginning of the war , the person lived in georgia as a political emigrant, in fact, and now they are in georgia, not her, not her they let in those who want to come there, hang out, sunbathe in batumi, and please, it’s wrong, it’s illogical, they should be inviting, and by the way, i want to say this , president saakashvili does it. you have to give credit to him. the first russian-language channel

made the caucasian first, the caucasian version well, that's what he did. they should invite those who are against putin and for georgia to restore its territorial integrity, they condemn the war, they should be given an open road to not fighting ukraine, not to us, so i understand oh, who wants to go there er, to leave money, a person is not a wallet on two legs, it is a citizen . of course, you can say that he is not responsible for anything, but if he absolutely calmly accepts the regime that started the war against georgia, he should have no place in georgia even i'm here as a politician, you don't have anyone, we don't have any relationship, we're already like that, first of all, it's not a problem, you have nothing to do with politics and you have nothing to do with georgia, so you can, look, putin is doing everything he can to destabilize the situation, so he opened air connections and today lavrov's daughter, katya vynokurova, flew there , hello, because they decided to play

a wedding there, a wedding in georgia. bastards, you just understand , their planes bombed the mountains of other georgian cities. and now this fool and his father, this the scoundrel of the scoundrels justified it from the high stands and now she is in the country they bombed and wants to play at her relative's wedding where get out of here you idiot, i'm just surprised and you see the georgians kicked them out, they kicked them out , probably to europe the road is closed to them i don't know or what in italy angelika well, i understand that a person finally sanctions because because the choice is a small island of hainan in china in the united arab emirates they can we we give you ideas but not georgia why can't you

be such patriots why can't you be on the lake i'm sorry, baikal , it's already all over there, why isn't it, it's not prestigious, but it's right, because it's necessary to make foreign countries easier, i remember when they were running. she was still a little girl , and lavrov became the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, and he says: i read this in an interview my wife and daughter told the newspaper of 200 that the united states would not return , he was a representative of the russian federation to the united nations, because you understand how difficult it is to adapt to a person who has lived almost all his life in the united states of america. the russian federation, therefore, i do not insist that they work with me, i will work here for a while, something has been delayed, but they live among normal people, it is a horror, a person

says such a thing in public space. well, we all . well, of course. life believes that they moved to the united states, any person wants the daughter to be married and she is like that, they came to life all the time, and here something came under the sanction. well, how is this son of this idiot bear, they are forced to live in this now and i'm sorry, shit, shit yes, they do i don't like it because they never liked it, no one liked it. where do khrushchev's children live in the united states of america ? is this what you teach there? well, it's a serious family. it's very interesting. well, i also think that the script is correct . it's putin's children. and where is gorbachev's daughter abroad? in the west, all the children of russian and soviet leaders are all in the west, you all understand in the west what kind of enemy

will attack russia, because they all treat this russia with an indescribable appeal, and this madame here with all her coddle, she proved it, that is, the wedding in you don't celebrate the muscovites in st. petersburg, not because why? because you don't want to celebrate their bad books among the slaves, let us let us georgians set the table with khachapuri , kindzmarauli, even though they are amazing people in general , i think it's simple. do you understand, it's some kind of colonial administration there, 17th century these unfortunate russians there are often unfortunate, it doesn't matter who they are treated as, you know, slaves of some wild tribes, they subjugated them there , but of course, well, yes, yes, yes, yes, a white

person. she doesn't celebrate with someone there it is not known who is the saint, well, she is going somewhere else and oh and people in russia agree that so and so scares everything and we rule . so why the horror? the border when they had the opportunity and now they say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes , yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. pronounced biariyan where not everyone he can afford to live even for a week, and putin is there. his real love is for his mother. well, now he usually has to sit in a bunker in sochi so that the water

does not leak . this again shows what kind of cynical people we are dealing with and georgians should have thought about it. i would say that any understanding with these people is impossible precisely because they are absolutely price- goers. destroys european integration because any policy must be non-economy must not be just an output it must be moral especially when it comes to a country whose very existence is threatened by the russian federation and i believe that the russian federation threatens the existence of every soviet republic of means that we will draw conclusions she did not use this georgian scenario, and the important point is not to become georgia in this sense, this is all, and georgia

is a beautiful country, we are love, the people are free, but here is this political course. in no way we cannot repeat it in the future. thanks to vitaliy for the wonderful broadcast. vitaliy portnikov held the saturday political club for you in a few moments. news by zoryana koval . don't miss it. and we will see you in this line-up next saturday in ukraine at 21:00 and for your attention the final