[000:00:00;00] this love lives under a medical gown, a fire-resistant suit, a volunteer vest, under a coat, a plate-carrying apron, and under a green fleece jacket . ukraine cannot be divided, because it is sewn together by a strong thread of love that runs through all of us . border guards today, our state border is not just a line on the mafia, it is the border between light and darkness, and every day they fight to restore and protect it, the glory

of ukrainian border guards is united by a common we are united by the art of use, but it is impossible to heal pain where there is silence about it, open your eyes, come out into the light, say you like an exhibition, a conversation that is impossible without you , protests, clashes and detentions in georgia, under the walls of a hotel, in a cafe , discontented activists gathered to protest against the arrival of serhiy's family lavrov visited georgia to celebrate the wedding of a relative, the activists chanted, "we will not let georgia turn into a country village for

lavrov's family, but law enforcement officers detained almost two dozen protesters, and later the president the village of med zrobishvili in georgia said that the members of the russian family left the country under the control of the state security service and employees of the ministry of internal affairs of georgia. and she called it a kind of victory for society, and in the same way, the president of georgia solome zrobishvili announced a boycott of george airways due to flights to russia and called such a decision willy stressed that the airline is just trying to make money and that was the case under all the governments of ukraine , but now it has found itself in a new reality that is acceptable for the majority of the population, let's hear the authorities should stop playing with their people and become a few flights have started and this is an insult to the georgian people who know very well how to protect their dignity and independence and do not

need gifts from anyone, especially from a country that is an indefinite occupier of straw, the president of georgia, nadar meladze, georgian the journalist is with us on the direct connection of the nadar. we congratulate you. life, e-e , speec. well, let's do it. well, we understand that not all of our audience is even in english . we have to translate it for the gift. thank you for your attention to of events in georgia and he says that we will communicate without an interpreter, yes, yes, well, you see, regarding georgia itself , we will really have a number of questions about the current situation

, because from this protest, mainly , we need to understand whether they will be able, let's say, to influence the future political perspective, uh, good luck. well, now i think we'll get in touch, and that's just the first question about what's happening now with the protests and people's moods a-a good evening a-a good evening yes and i unfortunately and did not manage to do such ukrainian language during this time they speak themselves in ukrainian, but i hear uh, those questions that you won’t ask me in ukrainian, in ukrainian language, ah, protests, ah , very intense. now, eh, too, eh, people, eh, activists and representatives of the opposition are in isolators, and where were they transferred, and those activists and political leaders who were drawn today? and there were more than ten people who were drawn today - these are the people who

opposed the arrival of lavrov and his husband in georgia . it was held shares on the radio operator is not only in the capital, but it was in the cache. in the same hotel where they lived and today they planned events there. the family of a-a representative of the russian government, they are not considered a-a for m-m citizens of georgia as desirable guests because sergey lavrov is a person who was an accomplice in the occupation of georgia, he represents putin's government and his seven representatives who

are boys depression does not appear for georgian krashnels as welcome guests in our country a-a protests uh-uh after a few days back there and they were held because of the resumption of direct air communication a-a between russia and georgia and today already a-a this is the news that became known that the representatives of the family lavrova is in georgia, and the activists who will come out of these protests did not predict that tomorrow there will already be actions in the evening in tbilisi, and they will be held daily . i want one to say that eh in last year, excuse me, please, there were a lot of tourists , there are citizens of the russian federation , citizens of the russian federation come to georgia, and they didn’t have any problems in georgia, because georgia is

a country where there are many centuries together. armenians, azerbaijanis , georgians, russians, all live here in the center of tbilisi . all the people, because that is the country, but when it comes to speech , what is in our country? opinion well, about the perspective, i also want to ask if there is such a chance or is there such a possibility that these protests, what has now begun to happen , will turn into something more serious, more massive, what is the mood of the people , mmm, the georgian people always have the power to defend their honor a-and we showed it uh-uh when we went out uh-uh against the russian law on the streets of automobilisas uh-uh the seventh and ninth of march uh-uh when the parliament of georgia adopted uh-uh exactly

the same law that uh-uh the russian president adopted uh-uh against non-governmental organizations and mass media the georgian people will give a win and the parliamentary party has become forced to call it legally from the parliament of georgia . now, the georgian society will stand and oppose it. until now, it will not be forced on the georgian government to take such steps that are not it will be against the georgian course of european integration, we know that the resumption of communication adjacent to russia and georgia and the so-called warming of the relations between the georgian government and the russian government prevent it the georgian police club that elected the georgian

people, it is directly written in our constitution that everyone is obliged to er-er to 90% citizens of georgia, and they think that our future is m-m everest so and so of the last question, well, the real number about the western population georgia, and even more, we know that our future is in the european union and nato , they are with russia, because all these years we received only grief and nothing more from russia, and three times russia was at war on the territory of georgia . first war yuzhnaya seti potom po

the abkhazians then again went online and killed our fellow citizens and boiled their own homes and we simply cannot forget it for georgia - this is now the main and urgent erointegration because the georgian people think it is for our sovereignty for our safety, this is mandatory and then we are going on our way to europe. how important is the position of brussels for georgia, which urges not to make flights between russia and georgia, and will this affect the european integration of georgia, and today there was a special statement of the president of georgia, who clearly said that the government should conduct such a policy, which will help georgian integration into the european union in georgia, society

, the president of the npu, the opposition, everyone thinks that now it is necessary to conduct such a policy and make decisions that will to contribute to the fast integration of georgia, i am a eurosatian . we understand that all these recommendations are given to georgia in order for our country to be better, that our country had freedom of speech , that we had an independent court in our country, that we had objective elections, and that there were no protests after any elections

and uh, questions, uh, did someone throw there complementary libraries, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and the president made very harsh statements today, she refused to fly with the georgian air carrier georgene airways as a sign of protest, and the president of georgia even she said no it will use the number one board itself, this is a state plane, and its operation is under joji russian airlines , she refused the state plane too , and today she called on citizens of georgia to take the same step, and because somehow the georgian national company is starting to fire to moscow and we think that this is a wrong move on our part. well , of course we will keep an eye on everything, but now we are grateful to you, grandpa-madloba in georgian. we can also say a few words, and of course we will

to keep in touch because well, what is happening in georgia now, we understand that the story is not finished and obviously all these processes, as the blow himself just said, they are going absolutely , they are absolutely contrary to european integration . glory to the heroes, thank you, the football player was in direct contact because we are moving on, until the end of the decade, a global conflict may break out in the world , this was the opinion expressed by the minister of defense of great britain, ben wallace, that is why defense should become a priority for the life of every country, and so it is necessary to develop a clear schedule an increase in military spending to two and a half percent of gdp, because after a full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, the conflict with the aggressor country may expand; in addition, the voice believes that there is a threat of the growth of china and the spread of extremism in africa; the approach of the big seven does not inspire any international trust; strong dissatisfaction has caused a joint communique of the leaders of the g7 countries in the people's republic of china in the document

, it is worth noting that the leaders of the group of seven criticized beijing for the situation in the south china sea and numerous violations of human rights in the country and the alleged interference, followed by a quote in european democracy. well, the big seven also called on beijing to influence russia to stop its brutal and unprovoked war against ukraine. and the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china once again called on kyiv and moscow for a political settlement of the crisis . the first information about this forecast b on vols about the expansion of the global conflict eh he

talks about two and a half percent of gdp of the military forces in different countries, well, the actual statement of mr. voice should first of all be perceived as such a--a preliminary announcement of the vilnius nato website, on which the alliance must make several important decisions for itself, in addition to those directly related to military support the alliance of ukraine will also approve , for the first time since the end of the cold war, a working strategy for a possible military confrontation with the russian federation. the security and defense sector, this issue has actually been painful for the alliance since 2014, when

after russia began its hybrid aggression against ukraine and began to deploy this aggression against the west, it is also in the alliance, well, this caused such a certain uh certain analysis of and if there was a certain analysis of the situation what is happening in general so, in 2014, of the 29 nato member countries that made up the alliance at that time , only four countries uh fell under this requirement, they allocated 2% of gdp necessarily for defense and for all the following years, since the 14th year, the leadership of the alliance, the united states of america, even under the presidency of trump, demanded from other nato member countries, primarily from european allies, to increase these expenses, we will be clear that since europeans and states over the years, after the end of the cold war, they reduced these costs because, on the one hand, they saw russia not as an opponent, but as a trading partner

, and accordingly, this reduced the risks and threats to european security, as they were seen by the leaders of, for example, germany or according to france, these countries have reduced their expenses, well, if the state of affairs in the german army has been the same since 2015-16, there were actually several scandals with official berlin, which were related to what is actually happening in their army under their almost minimal spending on er. on this matter, yes, on security and defense. and since then, of course, the situation has certainly improved, but it is still very, very far from the point where all 31 countries now allocate at least 2%, er, of gdp to security and defense there, now a little less than half of the countries are actually somewhere trying to reach this limit, and germany is talking about the year 2025, when they will only be able to reach 2%. well, and so on, that is, in principle, what mr. volos says is

an additional incentive for nato member countries , especially those who, perhaps, keep to themselves a little more time in order to correct the situation with the financing of the army, the special services of law enforcement agencies, and so on, we need to hurry with this, because really, well, what is happening with the russian aggression and how much russian aggression stimulates other states with the same authoritarian regimes, that is, the increase of their own aggressive appetites. it is just a matter of time, and the alliance simply may not have time to gain additional financial organizational weight before it is necessary to proceed to concrete actions regarding this second piece of news that we announced implies dissatisfaction or strong dissatisfaction of china. in this way, they formulated all that they heard during the summit of the great seven, except that this is, well, let's say a rhetorical position

, or more there will be consequences. i think that here, first of all, it is a question of a political, really political position, it is political rhetoric , which shows that in fact the deceased is a little late in implementing her strategic plans, because, in fact, a little, as they say he slips a little concrete steps with the so-called peace plan , which they presented at the beginning of the year and were already in talks with the leaders of western european countries and the leaders of the european union, and we are , relatively speaking, now. at this stage, it would be time for china to show some concrete the result, yes, all they managed to do was to appoint an official special representative of their e-e on the issues of the russian-ukrainian war and political settlement, this special representative is one of those to go to ukraine, yes he is. well, somewhere e-e

next week, it seems they are expecting him in moscow and in principle that's all given that china has the ambition to be one of the key players at the global level, well, it is still very far from showing itself from a practical point of view at the level of rhetoric , of course well, we hear a lot of criticism from an official warning to the west that the west is supposedly dictating some of its own rules that do not suit china, but on the other hand, china does not offer and does not show or demonstrate absolutely no alternative except for direct confrontation and to support such aggressors as, for example, the russian federation or north korea or iran, for example, yes, that is, in fact, china now , from a practical point of view, it looks like a state that has such pocket puppet inadequacies yes, in the person of these states yes, in russia north korea, for example, to iran, and in this way china artificially creates certain problems in the region and then says one thing, but we have influence on these countries

, let's now negotiate and solve these issues. aspects of it politics, don't you think that these statements are somehow deepening the gulf between the big world and china because, for example , at the beginning of april, the macrons went to beijing at the ruslan fund of deryan, and nothing came of that visit, french the media called him a cold shower, and now it seems like a continuation instead of building bridges with such an exchange of harsh statements. it seems to me that for now it is premature to talk about this rift. well , the russians were very happy. sergey lavrov already had time to say that this is raskol. and what that means er-er russia, russia together with china means they are one

on one side of this split, yes, er, well, it is clear. why does lavrov say that because, well, the russian regime is now trying to use any circumstance, any even the smallest factor that will allow them at least symbolically somewhere, prima is closer to the older brother of the chinese, but from the side, but officially, it seems to me that now it is a position, well, conditionally acquiring a price , so that is, china, understanding what it is now, in principle, no, it is not ready, yes, for some substantive dialogue of the west there about the distribution of roles at this political level yes at the strategic level of interaction no in principle the west is also not ready for such a conversation because it has not yet understood well specifically what china can do, what it cannot do and what it is going to do therefore, it seems to me that now this uh, this, well, such a harsh comment from the official representatives of the people's republic of china is just a way to show that china has its own tough position and the west would do well to

take this position into account in the future. when they will calmly negotiate not only about trade yes, but in fact about a lot of things related to the global security architecture well, in the end, in order to recognize china as one of the centers of influence and power in the modern world, we have already mentioned the special representative who is the tour is actually on such a tour, so can this be the first step, the first beginning of an effort to at least understand what is happening in ukraine and on the european continent, and then as a result i suppose you should also adjust your policy, or it doesn’t work with china , definitely not, and already even because of who this special agent met when he was in ukraine, we could clearly understand that he is actually interested in not only the russian-ukrainian war and the political settlement of this war. he is interested in many other points related

to bilateral trade, yes, with bilateral economic ties, etc. that is, it means that, in principle, china understands for itself that after the end of this war, ukraine will remain an independent state and with ukraine. as an independent state , it will be necessary to build ties and ukraine will obviously be part of the western world. urgent goals, yes, that is, i went there today, and there is already some action plan for tomorrow, uh, in fact, chinese policy , foreign policy, security policy, and so on, it is oriented towards at least the medium-term perspective for us, that is, uh, well even after the bad guy goes to moscow and next week, i think it will be a few more weeks after that , by the time beijing digests all the information he will bring, well, and in the end

they will move on, all the more so they have now collected the reaction of the g7. they also have to digest and analyze it in a certain way. and so on. that is, it will absolutely not be a quick process on the part of china, and it will not be a process that will be oriented towards some very important steps. bureaucracy but then quickly makes a decision china takes a long time and it will take a long time to make a decision like they do in europe well, you see, china is a little specific because it is so ah well, what about the former soviet bureaucracy, but it has already completely transitioned to the conditions of capitalism yes that is, at least they have there's the hammer and sickle and the red flag, but it's the same. well, they allowed private entrepreneurship, and if they included it in completely different categories, they, ah, in the practical plane, they lean towards the western model

, but ideologically, they have to stick to ah, socialism, communism, because of such an ideological glue that holds their society together, that's why, in principle, they also have a bureaucracy, which, after all, it's the same everywhere, yes. well, they also have this certain ideological deterrent. also does not allow us to completely open up there and say that we are ready to absolutely openly and honestly trade directly with the west and we cannot have any confrontation there. well, it already exists in principle because, at least declaratively, at the official level, china adheres to these ideas of socialism communism and so on, so they have to balance. well, in the end, in general, the chinese tradition is such that well, they strategically recalculate their steps many stages ahead, and what they do , for example, at some stage now, which may seem similar, is theoretically included in such a general the scheme of their plans for the decade ahead, for example, but there is no

need to reassess them at the same time, because, relatively speaking, the era and sumza are not enough. one way or another, they are a product of the modern era, they are a product of modern china , that's why they make and will make mistakes, and well, there will already be. the question is how much the west will use this to its advantage, ukraine's approach in this case, what should it be, because do you even remember during the er, or more precisely, before the telephone conversation between volodymyr zelenskyi and all dingpin, we also heard such assessments from the side of ukraine, they are quite careful, in my opinion, about the fact that well, in fact, there is a chinese plan and some points from it can be to discuss maybe even to implement and in all of this we also saw ukrainian caution in my opinion, and what ukrainian logic should be in relation to china . it seems to me that this is ukrainian caution , it is actually the best approach and er

way of acting in this situation. we must understand that china is neither our friend nor our ally, but neither is it our enemy, and china in this situation is very clearly pursuing its exclusively national interests in relation to russia , as well as what they are doing with them in the end in relation to russian aggression against of ukraine and in the way that china builds its policy and its position in relation to official kyiv, we must understand that the chinese will absolutely not pay attention to the interests of ukraine in this situation and they will promote their interests first of all, so if our approach is it is absolutely logical. we are looking for our interests to at least partially coincide with the declared interests of china. well, for example, the so-called peace plan. well, it is actually just a positional document. that is, according to the plan, which is very far away, there are no practical there are no steps or mechanisms of any kind, but how will it all be implemented, there are very general declarative goals , and they are formulated as neutrally and

universally as possible, there we are for everything good and against everything bad, and in some moments we can use it and our diplomacy is absolutely correct it is set up like awnings because one of the first points in uh-uh these uh-huh political positions of china there is respect for the territorial integrity of the sovereignty of the state. well, we very correctly placed the emphasis on the fact that we we understand this point from our point of view that from the point of view of international law that the borders of ukraine are recognized by the international community they must be fixed and in practice they must also correspond to those officially fixed in international legal documents, in the end, china does not have a report, there is nowhere to go that they themselves voiced it like that, and here it’s just er, well, the question arises how will china er have the opportunity to synchronize its own position its vision with the position of , for example, ukraine, so er, well, if that how er

the official kyiv, at least now, is building er years that are connected with this chinese peace initiative, this is in principle absolutely the right thing, we are emphasizing our own plan for a just peace, which is recognized in principle by all countries, civilized education, all collective measures, well, i am with which china one way or another, we will have to deal with it, and if china really wants to be a right partner of the west in this new world in the new security architecture, then china will have to take into account at least everything the main points are all the key points that are in the ukrainian peace plan . well, then it is time to agree on other positions with those laid down by washington. thank you. are ringing,