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[000:00:00;00] now but now you what do you feel continues the trend that began in the 19th year when ukrainian society actually threw out old politicians whose surnames i have already elected a completely inexperienced new non-politicized non-political force and servants of the people and the president continues, that is, old politicians are leaving on the contrary, are they recruiting or will we see the verkhovna rada in uniform in military uniforms , old politicians are always convinced that they are eternal, that they will be voted for, that people will trust them no, they will actually repeat themselves in 2014 the year when people will trust the new parliament, new politicians, new categories of politicians, and i am convinced that in the new parliament at least half of these will be people who have experience
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from abroad, experience of the army or experience of volunteer work, moreover, i do not rule out if it can be more and 60 and 70%. well, at least the experience of the american senate congress after the war in vietnam showed that about $ 2/3 is bad and is it good or bad ? the connotation when ukrainians madly support someone, they heroize, they understand, they don't understand that these are different fields in the war, one is the same, but in jurisprudence, another, i remember nadiya savchenko , when i hosted the program, they called me, she is the future president, how dare you question she is a wonderful heroine and i would not so that we come to the conclusion that we are such a special people, a bad people, etc. we are a country
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of young democracy. we are a little more than 30 years old . our parties change for each election campaign. we are only building our own standards, our own format of political life. of the political system and therefore it is a normal process when parties change with elections, surnames change, but with regard to politicians who have passed, who have experience in combat operations, or service in the armed forces of ukraine, there are a huge number of people, professional lawyers , professional experts, and believe me, you can form more than one excellent, high-quality political force there the question is not theirs, the question is ours , will we want to choose blindly or will we just want to choose emotionally or will we think think about the essence be interested in programs strategies maybe i'm talking boring now things but if we want to have a high-quality parliament or a high-quality local government, then we must look at the proposals
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that politicians give us, what they will build, what laws they will adopt, what the contents of their programs , their strategies, but very often we look exclusively at the outer shell, well, in this it depends on us, then we get when every chairman of the ukrainian electoral committee , the historian, was with us, i would still speak, the head of the ball, talk, bey chatted, but the timing is the timing, you can't do anything. we have a new topic a small clip, we will see the following plot plot about mariupol i think we will eventually forget all these hero cities brest smolensk and so on, we will have our own ukrainian hero cities for sure mariupol, the city of heroes, will have to be remembered in generations of ukrainians and the protection of mariupol and defenses were increasing in those days, precisely in may , and the heroic ukrainian soldiers were supposed to leave mariupol, and the siege of mariupol began, in fact, on the first
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day, the russians invaded ukraine on february 24. so, already on march 2, the city was actually surrounded and continued to draw on the potential of the russian troops, and thanks to mariupol, what happened later, and the counteroffensive of ukrainians near kyiv and chernihiv and kharkiv and kherson - this is all thanks to and undoubtedly the defender of mariupol, let's see and then return to the program conducted by mykola veresen in mariupol the war, neither me nor the child . messages were written by residents of mariupol who managed to leave the occupied
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city on may 20. last year, the last ukrainian defender left the territory of the azovstal plant. 90% of the city was completely destroyed. more than 22,000 civilians were killed by the russians. anastasia was from mariupol and worked in a local pharmacy on february 24. on march 5, until the medicines ran out in the first days of the great war, there were a lot of people. i knew that it was my duty to provide every person with medicine. most of all, they chose this. the children had syrups for fever, diabetes, pills and probably high blood pressure, as well as pills for high blood pressure of anastasia's husband, a military man. on march 10, when hostilities were taking place in the very place, he took a woman and a child to azovstal, and at that time
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, more than 40 adults and 11 children were also hiding there. people took their pets with them after a month, you get used to it, we didn't have water, we melted the snow , collected rainwater, and with that we killed ourselves, for example, what else was there, we had food once a day, and we cooked this soup anastasia from my son lived in the dungeons of azovstal for two and a half months. on may 6, they were taken out of the territory of the metallurgical plant
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. they were almost the last russians to find out that anastasia's husband was a soldier. in donetsk, they also said that i would just stay here. i gave all the documents to my grandmother because i understood that they could be released from the filtration system. and i can stay there, but the combine's tent remained . the woman's husband was injured in april. and he did not get in touch for a long time until he handed over a small note already on may 16, he was taken out of azov steel. he ended up in enemy captivity. today, the man was returned as a result of one of the exchanges, but still about two thousand defenders of azov steel are in russian captivity, one of them sofia's younger brother, they were born and grew up in luhansk region, the guy signed a contract back in 2019, a full-scale war overtook him in shyrokyne, later he was sent to the mariupol garrison, as we all
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know that mariupol and azovstal itself became the last outpost on the territory of mariupol, the boy, like other fighters, left the territory of the medical complex on the order of the higher military leadership in order to save his life . the defender has been in captivity for more than a year. the first and last time from captivity he called us on may 22 , 2022 and informed that he is located on the territory of the so-called dpr in a deer park known to all of us, of course he said that more or less what he will say under the muzzle of a machine gun is not confirmed by the red cross is not confirmed by russia and the worst feeling there is that's it. that's it. the state of waiting for 2023 gave sofia hope at
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the beginning of january. she received news about my brother. this is my brother's whereabouts, but he is not confirmed in russia. and i also still don't know ani about his state of health, ani about his fate, or whether he has been convicted . he is there, the girl confesses that she has dreamed of meeting her brother hundreds of times, and i have imagined her as much this year that i am waiting for my brother. i have imagined our meeting hundreds of times from the cinema when i am running down the corridor in the hospital. he is standing confused, i hug him and kiss him. i have such a dream to meet him at the exchange. sofia says we are ready to meet my brother in any condition. the main thing is that he should return home
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dirty, don't wash them in clear clothes, and it is important for me that he sees how important he is to us, how much we value what he is. he did what he went through and for just a year we have no contact with him and i suspect that he doesn't even know how much i fight for him here, the extreme exchange took place on may 6, then ukraine returned 42 defenders and three defenders of azov steel dmytro didora oleksandr burlevych and andriy verstyuk tv channel espresso what do you think about lacalut fix reliably fixes me, my dentist advised me to do so and particles of food do not get under the prosthesis and the price is good, the right choice for my pension, a new cream for extra-strong fixation of dentures and healthy gums
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a ukrainian view of the world, get up a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel. and this is access to exclusive content, personal thanks, pinned comments, special icons and the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team, click to sponsor and become part of the community with a ukrainian perspective , vasyl zima's long broadcast, my name is vasyl zima, two hours of airtime until 21:00, two hours of your time, we will talk about the most important thing for two hours to learn about the war, it turns out that our broadcast will be serhiy zhoretska's military summaries of the day and what is the world? what in the world will yuriy the physicist tell for two hours to to be aware of economic news protested oleksandr borshchagivtsi he tells us about the economy during the war and new sports evgeny pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for two hours in the company of his favorite presenters about culture during the war lina is ready to talk or even presenters that many have become
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like the weather is possible although ms. natalka didenko will give us some optimism , she is ready to tell us, as well as the distinguished guests of the studio, we will have volodymyr hryshko today , if everything goes well, the driver of the day in two hours , vasyl's big broadcast in winter, a project for smart people and those who don't care in the evening, most of all, unpunished evil always returns on may 21, the day of remembrance of the victims of political repression. good health, ladies and gentlemen. once again mykola veresen is talking to you and will be talking to you until 5
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p.m. i can already feel couch connoisseurs, language connoisseurs who say yes instead of polling stations he said precincts i apologize i immediately i apologize i can already see these people i can already hear the voices scoundrel ignorant bad doesn't understand anything and so on and so on and so on i apologize i really made a mistake instead of pre-election election precincts, i didn't say precincts. i know the difference between these words. unfortunately for those who criticize me . so, yes, may 21 is indeed quite an interesting day today. we really honor the people who suffered from repressions. we should also honor the resettled peoples. this is what we will say. the day of remembrance of the victims of political repressions, we can add to them boldly, for example, the great crimean tatar people, easily and casually, and i would say that
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today is may 21 and andriy's birthday dmytrovych sakharov, an absolutely brilliant physicist and also a very famous human rights defender, and i just don't know how it fits together, it's may 21. as the day of remembrance of the repressed and the birthday of andriy dmytrovych, this thunder will understand me well , the leader of the crimean knightly people, mustafa dzhmilov, because when academician sakharov was released from exile, he was not exiled in the city of gorky, and gorbachev called him personally . it was forbidden to talk on the phone, a specific phone, and uh, because of the myth, we do not know how the conversation between gorbachev and sakharov went, but later it became known that when gorbachev said to sakharov, you, you, you, you are free , you can return to moscow to take your
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apartment on he has a back apartment big academicians have always had big apartments that's why, instead of saying thank you very much, mr. general secretary or comrade general, well, i'll leave, and many people will remain, among whom, for example, mustafa dzhemilov, and he named this very last name, and several other names of people who were not in exile, but in prisons and will not be imprisoned . prisoners throughout the entire soviet union, and political prisoners told me how it happened in their prisons, and vyacheslav chornovil and levko lukyanenko and serhiy, all who sat on the sidelines and whether and whether exiled or in in the prisons , they told me how it all happened. and it all
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started precisely from the moment when gorbachev rang rang sakharov and sakharov's birthday today we also celebrate, in addition to the fact that today is the day of remembrance of the victims of political repression and ihor kulyk , director of the archive of national memory, historian , archivist, will have a conversation with us about the sphere of his scientific expertise mass repression archives of special services deportations of the soviet era good health, mr. igor, it is nice and thank you for finding time for us on sunday, i would say that it is especially nice for me we even discussed with the editors what we should do in the soviet union there was such a word likbez and from time to time to invite narrowly specialized specialists who would tell us in terms of what we know there, what we can talk about here, this always seemed to me a very interesting question to you
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. so when we say that you are studying the deportation of the soviet era and i have such an impression, maybe you will be able to answer this question p igor that this is some kind of russian tradition, soviet as well as before i know that there was a mass extermination of peoples in siberia, this is yermak, about whom the russians are still so khabarov, in which monument standing in khabarovsk, he simply destroyed the villages and towns of the local and foreign, that is, non-russian population, as far as we can pave the way back somewhere prospectively , is this really in the traditions of russia, which later passed to the soviet union? day all viewers, actually, if you try to understand
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how old the history of the destruction by the russians is, it is obvious to us that there is nothing more obvious. less and less goats went to baturin and he actually destroyed all the defenders of baturin, men and women, children, regardless of any peculiarities. therefore, it is obvious that in reality a-a this was typical for the middle ages and it was actually typical only for russia absolutely for everyone countries because at that time this was the consciousness of people in general, but the peculiarity is that if other countries were already growing up and they were moving away from this practice, they began to live according to some written laws and smoothly transition to democracy. then russia as
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a medieval barbarian, she remained in that medieval age she continued to be a country where the rise of strength is more important than any other concepts where the concept if it is an enemy is imaginary, invented, real without difference , but if it is someone, the russians answer as an enemy, they are ready to destroy him completely totally regardless of whether it will be one person there or whether it will be a million or 10 million people . therefore, it is obvious that it is necessary to talk about the fact that this experience in russians is not something special and, unfortunately, probably for many people it has become to god's great surprise, many people discovered russians for themselves , precisely with such a person who destroys people, and a year ago, when they began to liberate the territories of kyiv region, the territory of chernihiv region, and when the first photos of other settlements went around the world, it was actually a shock for many people for me it is, well, it is obvious that it hurt. it is obvious that it left
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its mark, but for me it will not be something like that to us, that is, i perfectly understood that the russians use it. and later actually see mr. igor well, i want to say that i i belong to those people, despite the fact that i have some kind of historical education. and if i didn't believe it, i would sit in kyiv and think to myself , well, they will come and say something like that, then that, then that. i imagined it, i didn't believe that the ukrainian army and the ukrainian people would fight back so much more powerfully, my daughter believed that this means a generation, that's my my daughter absolutely she looks at me and she's not an idiot when she's a father what do you say everything will be okay yes we'll fight back yes, we still are brain, we will hang this yellow-blue flag. you see. but yes, this is the final solution to the ukrainian question. you personally believe in it
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because we saw it quite recently . first, we definitely saw it with hitler. of the muslim question when in srybna it was simply decided that milošev does he respect us as his henchmen and what kind of question well, let's beat them all and not be muslims and we will live there calmly we will continue to live as long as you do you think that the language in the katsap moscow heads was exactly uh-uh from now on, well, if it wasn’t for the fact that there would be no ukrainian people , that there wouldn’t be a single person in the world who would say i’m a ukrainian, if this person said i’m a russian, well, maybe to be or i'm a hohol well, it can be but so that the word ukraine does not sound, how far do you think these plans went, it is my deep conviction that the genocide against
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ukrainians has been going on for at least the last 100 years and the russians are ready to make maximum efforts to destroy everything related to ukrainians with ukraine and with ukrainian ie a-a ukraine for the russians this is a sub-state ukrainians are the same people as they are and in general that the ukrainian language and ukrainians in general are a fiction of the austrian general staff well, a little more like there 100 years ago, that 's why i firmly believe that the russians actually want to exterminate ukrainians and for a specific example of his time, somewhere around 8 years ago in the state archive of the sumy region, the act on the death of a 19-year-old collective farm worker andrii ostapenka was invented. it was may 1933, just in fact, the peak of the
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32-33-year genocide of the holodomor, also one of the the greatest evil before others was the crime of the marian union, and that's why the cause of death was not indicated in the column, it was not exhaustion , it was indicated not hunger, but there was a twist of the intestines , there was also some medical disease, there was one short word of ukraine, and this is actually a sign of the fact that the russians are are really trying to destroy ukrainians just because they are ready to speak their native language, ready to work in their native land, and they identify themselves as ukrainians, and you know. it seems to me that you mentioned that you may not have believed very much in victory in the armed forces of ukraine, but your daughter convinced you of this. it seems to me that this is the reason why we already have 30 years of independence, where we learn our history, not perfectly, not like that. maybe if we wanted to, but this is our state and our history and this is our freedom . and this is precisely our feeling that we already have at least
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one full-fledged generation that feels what freedom is, in fact, precisely because of this , our armed forces won because 100 years ago when we had the ukrainian revolution 17:23 and in the 21st years, in fact, then the ukrainian state existed unfortunately for a short time. and i still want it. it was declared one of the first to be independent, but the russians from the communists at that time actually liquidated it. and after that we just walked around the ice rink so that there were no active participants, so that after all, everyone was perceived even as little russia, and in fact, it was exactly like the russians, that's why, but from the third side, i always criticize your philosophy. if you were a pragmatic person, an archivist where there is the document is a and i
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if there were some kind of empire but it seems to me that apart from this russian sadism, this is a natural state of things only when there is someone to push back against, national states arise, what i mean, we are not germans, we are czechs, we are not czechs, slovaks, we are not turks, we are bulgarians, we are not russians. ukrainians, that is, this moment, that is, it can be seen on many examples of what happened only to the germans, when the czechs said that we, er, are not germans , the czech republic did not start an attack immediately in the 18th year or in the 19th year, only in the 39th year, and that is, not there was such a sudden yes, like the russians and the turks too were also against the czech republic, the slovaks somehow parted ways very easily and with smiles, and already the balkan countries fought quite actively
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when everyone said we are non-serbs and we are croatians and we are slovenians and so on and so on, that is , it seems to me that in addition to this sadism of attacks, there is this one a moment of repulsion that national states arise where there is resistance where suddenly or not suddenly someone suddenly someone suddenly remembers a language remembers a vyshyvanka not what you remember songs remembers traditions remembers own history what did you talk about no some kind of import, or am i wrong somewhere? well, it seems to me that resistance is a derivative of identification itself, that is, when a certain group of people is aware of itself as a certain individuality from others and at the same time as having some common features that
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they are united into one over there, the nation, the people, the nationality here already depends on the situation, that is, they identify themselves as different, but united among themselves. this is exactly what allows everyone to really work, and ukrainians, on the other hand, here alone some others were mentioned as volcanoes er, other countries actually, again, you have to understand that, unfortunately, very often , the territories of the state actually have administrative borders that are defined by some politician there in favor of administrative policy in a legal way . they are very often different from how they are actually placed, where the vast majority of people are there which actually defy themselves as being of a different nationality and where they can occupy even more of the population in terms of territory than the actual supposedly anti-turk nation . this is also special, that is, let’s take the same

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