[000:00:00;00] and someone there can also do this arithmetic will be changed depending on the results of the presidential elections, that is, well , that's the problem, it's also the same problem of the opposition that if it loses , the parliament is the majority they will pass about the government, you know. now, they counted whether there is sand in these corners, there are 400 of them, uh, rules of the ego , uh, up there, the left party is placed , that is, very strong. will react to the presidential results questions so far that is difficult at all yes the surprising process when

political forces are not divided according to the principle of right and left economic views how should the country develop in the east? and for and against rodogan it is easier to say how it turned out in general. here, after all, there will still be a big personality . and that's why, after all, this is how supporters of aydugan and i, eduana , come to this. but the point is that they took the majority of the right-wing parties, 60% or more, but at least the majority of this percentage is in the hands of the right-wing forces, that is, they can vote together on the new

law, this will mean that they have their own the context has changed, but it has changed. that is, everything that is happening in the world, as they say, boris's dances, i don't know, anti , these are these exercises, and so let's say to the forces that came to take her, that's how everything is happening here. in general, slaughter is essential the problem is everything with the economy, let's say refugees, or something similar, the super economy , that's how it raises the nationalists and the economy in recent years, that's the recent events, we understand the earthquake, it's also a terrible tragedy, and of course it affected the state of the state as a whole but

before that, why did erdoğan's policy change or what led to such high inflation? this is the last term of eduán's presidency . how could erdoğan this shelter will definitely change its own. this is how we will say, eh, about the patsila program of land conservation. so, let's say that the right-wing force will be changed to eh, but the general national good , how can it be said that it is possible to change because he also understands that, how would he i think that he wants to go down in the history of turkey as a human being, this is one human being, some kind of right with the left party, that is, that's why many. here are the x sports, which are the numbers and there are such signals, there are signal companies of the organ

. and tell me about the grain deal, that's it it was extended just before the second round, there is some political context in this, that is, the detention of president putin, after all , it does not put us in a difficult position before the old second round. they chose this simple diplomatic coincidence. i don't know, it seems to me that eh, and the sides of different countries will feel, uh, something, so let’s say we make sure that this is the easiest , uh, this is ideological political

, the final policy in turkey will not change. has a role well, for the time being, i have this conversation all the time, but i wonder what kind of foreign policy the average citizens of turkey are in general, or rather, they gravitate towards , of course, there are many internal problems, we understand all this, but of course we are interested in turkey's foreign policy. i did not understand the question of the number after that, they will listen closely to what the ordinary citizens of turkey think about the future of turkey's foreign policy. it is clear that you have a lot of internal problems, we are still interested in foreign politics, how do people relate to this, well, there are different kinds of things about it, so the company has conducted

research, but you see that for the last 5 years, the foreign police have received an ideal negativity and the first elephant of the mouth, i think so, here are the questions of security, the questions of terrorism, the question of many things vector yes, together with politics, how would uh get a positive answer i will even tell you that uh, they don't look at what they noted , that is, what the opposition is about the question what the problem is that even the authorities are coming to some village, it will still continue with the majority eh the majority in the form of negotiations eh that were goana that is , this is a lot of vector she received from us i think well explain the celigents and with

the positional opening of the people, in your opinion, in principle , after erdoğan's victory, it is possible that the relations of the series will change , because we have already seen how your time opened, many returns to the international community, at his age, we accepted in lelekuarab countries this is what they said in our loss, how much will the attitude change if we win the little audience, let the oil be, and yes , there are two versions of the attitude to syria, direct sentences, i will tell you this, this is the opposition bloc. this is exactly what you will focus on because there were questions before everything.

- it turns out so that even if eduanu sheldo eh still the negotiations are strong they eh the process of the opposition could have been accelerated but eh you know that assa is also very eh so let's say eh he was waiting for the results of the elections then it's like they also have their own calculations and crowding, that is, uh, i even thought that even if he won, uh, if he wins, he will continue, this is the dialogue that has now begun between ankara and damascus, that is , it is a very important ideal, it is strategic and uh, public, it is so simple that everything here should change the shelf of syria, uh, when they supported the arab spring, this is also

generally stronger, there is support for the emergence, and why is it so generally moving? after the overthrow of the president , men, what is the point of these changes? but for a long time, i tried to ensure my security issues, especially at the border, and then i got that, well, it’s all a novelty, turkish intelligence, bureaucracy, bureaucracy, typical , she still saw that there are no results to continue, uh, such bad relations , everything needs to be changed later that is visible that here

the conjuncture will not change, and of course the question is written especially in rural candy, well, in turkey, there is, well, everyone here understands that if the negotiations with damascus are not on time, then there are several men in the keys, and it is impossible to return because there will be no lower безопасность опеченица what is the role of the negotiations, the role is that whether or not cash will happen yes, with some kind of guarantee, the supporter of these negotiations and turkey, if suddenly , that is, they will ensure the safety of these people, they will explain that it is safe and they didn't kill them, they weren't shot by outsiders , it went out, that is, what is going to happen, ah, well, well, the negotiations with this opposition were normal

, everything went well. hell, honor is limited, everything will be very difficult , let's talk about whether turkey is preparing for the tourist season , this is an important part of filling your budget , after the earthquake, as far as possible, it's normal to prepare eh it helps to provide koethylenes that is, that is the question in the stent that remained these people after suffering now they left that they returned to their cities eh and my daughter my blessing helped them find a new whole to live eh orentiya but eh that is eh she has changed. i think that this is the 6th season. well, there are no such problems

that were not there the previous year now, that is , the main thing is to ensure safety, cleanliness, to ensure fasting, that's it, that's it, that's it, i can get ready as always, thank you archanga farlypol is a political scientist from the dna expert center for political research and joined our broadcast. vitaly portnik and i will return to the broadcast in a few moments. and what do you think about lacalut fix ? a choice for my pension, a new cream for expressive fixation of dentures and healthy gums. so, your choice is fix cinema

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draw conclusions yourself unpunished evil always returns on may 21 memorial day for the victims of political repressions we continue the saturday flight program anzhelika sezonka and vitaliy portnikov will talk again about such hot topics, some of them we have already discussed in the first half of our program. however, i would like to hear, as always, the opinion of vitaliy portnikov , ms. congratulations, let's start with the g7 summit, and the prime minister of britain will be the first to make a decision said that aid to ukraine and

support for ukraine will not waver even if the war drags on and it will be such a long-term perspective after his statement several more leaders of the european union states he was directly supported by the american president as well as joseph biden. is this such a strong signal to putin that no matter how much he drags out this war, support in ukraine will remain and we will be provided with weapons , obviously well, it is not just words that even if the war continues, we will still be helped there and quite important is the position that when the war ends he will help us with weapons, and it seems to me that this is just a sufficiently dangerous signal because i preferred to hear that donato would take us and then we would not need to to help weapons, we will be able to spend on military budgets exactly as much as nato member countries spend and be under the nuclear umbrella of the united states and remain confident that war will not come to our land again, we are offered other

options, but now of course we do not see the possibility of your euro-atlantic perspective, we will go to nato, and we will help you at this time, so that you are so strong that if russia attacks you again, you can defend yourself again, that is, so that you can withstand any new war or new wars and a guarantee the only thing that is possible in such a situation is that russia will understand that they should not attack you, and this story is so close to me . western countries believed that if israel was a very strong state militarily, then it would end in the middle east, but as we can see , it did not work it worked to a certain extent already in 1977, it seems that there was a peace agreement with egypt

. with the activity of terrorist organizations until now and the arab states that have not concluded a peace agreement with israel, this glass is a more complicated situation , but you know that russia itself replaces the entire arab world and terrorists at the same time, and therefore you can imagine a situation in which , say, russia does not wage such a big war against ukraine which she is conducting today, that this war will end someday, but measures to destabilize the situation begin, terrorist danger, sabotage actions, all this, as you know , the figures from the federal security service are able to it is much better than fighting and that is why it seems to me that this is exactly the idea you have no doubts about, we will support you even if you have this conflict for ten years, this is not a very honest position, i will tell you honestly because no one said that uh, in the confrontation of uh, two states, one of which is inferior to the aggressive state in terms of territory and population, you can afford the luxury of war for

ten years, when i keep hearing that the conflict can last for ten years, i still suggest not to forget the mathematics of this of the conflict and to realize that the long-term conflict is exhausting, first of all putin, i didn’t waste our conversation with uh and roman the immortal mentioned about basharasad, the appearance of basharasad in the very cities of the arab states is a very dangerous son. i like that on the one hand, the arab world invites volodymyr zelenskyi to sambir and at the same time invites basharas in this way, demonstrating that he really agrees with the thesis that time is the best ally volodymyr putin, after all, even five years ago, no one considered it possible to maintain any relations with your mass. he destroyed his country. this country has no real economic and political prospects. now

another idea arises that maybe these countries that did not recognize assad, who consider this country tyrrhenian, who believe that the situation is deteriorating there, they will help him rebuild the country in the meantime, namely , even one iota, this is of interest. this also speaks of the conditions of putin in the war with ukraine , he did not give in one iota to the countries of the arab world and turkey. they wanted the return of the refugee. and how can they return when you understand that they will be repressed there, that they will be killed there, that they will be deprived of life prospects there, they have nowhere to return, just like that. because these agreements do not guarantee us safety, but guarantee us, in principle, the creation of an opportunity when russia eventually destroys us, that is why i believe that president pakron

said today at the meeting with president zelensky that tsemki itself is the turning point of the war . i believe that the turning point will come when the western countries will be ready to support us as part of their own world and not as such a night watch. by all orcs by the way, essentially with the dead, so actually with the russians, as we can see. so there were four levels of defense , so that means uh , that’s what it was called. guard then there were savages, and it’s worth it by the way, look, because this is our current policy, savages and there were these uh-dead people who threatened the whole world, and then there was

a successful world, the kingdom, the struggle for the crown , some new technique dragons fly, but the truth is not in this and she is in the fact that what is happening on the border, so everything that happened to us during this time is that we, from the fact that we will be savages, turned into fighters of this guard, or you moved to the walls, and the russians did not transform. we were simply with them for a long time in one field, i should have been able to move the whole world. the other world simply gives us weapons so that we can shoot back at them. i say this again, it is absolutely wrong and without perspective for our future position, the perspective is nato, it is a guarantee of security, it is our confidence that we

uh, let's not depend on another russian madman, that we will not be swept across the earth by war after war, because in any case, this is not existence , you understand, we can already see from the experience of a huge number of countries that in in the state they live in, they can live with patriotic fervor, and the majority of the educated population prospectively tries to be patriots somewhere outside the borders of such a country to decide for themselves the proportions, run at demonstrations, shout that we will never give up our native country, protect but children in schools, schools should give higher education abroad so that children get abroad to work alone, not remote, but to come here when it is safe for the new year, there is not christmas in the back of the city, of course well, it is obvious and it is not logical, because if you understand that your country has no bright prospects, then the best form of patriotism is emigration, this is the case with many people, and it seems to me that

ukrainians simply do not deserve this, they deserve to live in a peaceful, successful country that is capable of development. and for this we do not need guarantees that we we will be able to fend off russia, do you understand? we need guarantees that we will not go to war with it , mr. vitaly. but why does this understanding not come to an example in the administration of joseph biden, because when we speak even on for example, fighter jets for 16 years, we asked them to thank god, first of all, our armed forces of ukraine asked for a demonstration of their forces, uh, imitations. however, they did not train pilots, they did not prepare the infrastructure, and now who knows how long it will take for us to be able to use them, we understand the logic of our military when they tell us that the maintenance of bachmut is necessary for this reason that if we do not receive it for a long time, the russian

troops will go in different directions and will already threaten the very heart of our country or many regions in the east, moreover, we have to stand in bakhmut and our soldiers have been standing heroically for several months and how long because of the fact that we are the days of the collective sunset ukraine - this is bakhmut, it is simply big, we have to stand and restrain russia because russia could not spread its influence on the greater part of the territory, let's say the post-soviet space , so that it did not generate conflict , so that it was exhausted, not escalating the situation, so as not to bring the situation to a nuclear war, this is absolutely a policy, it is logical , especially since we know that president biden always was afraid of several things in his policy, the first is a nuclear conflict, the second is the direct involvement of the united states in any war, this is his political credo, he

was one of the employees of the barack obama administration, who strongly insisted on the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan , much more loudly than the president himself and other employees of this administration, in this regard, their view of president biden completely coincides with the view of former president trump. what i am saying is that they are antipodes, but in this coin, the president has a breath biden is a man of justice, he is ready to give any country that fights for its freedom and sovereignty against a dictatorship any level of aid, he advocated for it during the yugoslav times, it is not that he suddenly became like this, his position during the wars in the territory of the former haslavia, they are even towards slobod milošević's hatred of the leaders of these terrorist groups of bosnian serbs, it was declared by him as a senator and set out in his memoirs - this creed he called miloša a war criminal, what then when with

they were negotiating, it was god knows when and so then many people tried to talk more carefully about it to smooth over these cats but at the same time, senator biden absolutely did not think that the americans should fight with the former haslavia for the croats or the zachnav muslims, but we are not asking to fight for us, we are asking to take us into nato, this is not always yes, that is, to a certain extent, to fight for us with us. well, they will say that article five and so on, we will not apply it, it is not possible to take us into nato, no applying the heel article, the essence of nato - this is the fifth article, of course if we find some formula that will talk about the application of the fifth article exclusively in the territories where military operations take place, this is to some extent a compromise wording. i think about it all the time, but with on the other hand, if the shahedis fly to kyiv, is it an attack on a nato country or not ? can we pretend that this is not an attack , where do we draw this red line, i.e. missile fire is not an attack and the shahedis is not

an attack, but an attack - this is when the boot of the russian a soldier crosses the borders of five regions formally annexed by russia. and if russia wants to occupy kherson again , it's an attack. isn't it an attack? because it's in the new constitution, how to define it legally, i think it's absolutely obvious that western countries will always say political first agreement then european euro-atlantic integration start with this and first a political agreement and then investments first and this i would say is a gift to putin because vladimir putin perfectly understands that he can to pull this cat by the tail as long as it has the power and even without winning this war to turn ukraine into a marginal territory in the center of europe in a territory that lives on western money in a territory that exists exclusively with the help

of others in the territory of whose citizens every day die in varying numbers on the fronts in the territory where people are forced to sit in bomb shelters when he finally produces his missiles or buys shahedis how long can such a life last two years three five eight here and what should we expect in this situation as a panacea for the death of putin and the end of his presidential powers, i do not want us to focus on changes in russia in our thoughts about how and when the war in ukraine will end, we can live with the kind of russia that it is, russia can exist in its current form for a decade if we start all the time, i hear that russia will change and i feel myself from time to time

. istanbul in the 1930s the century since the bolsheviks will soon be covered. well, there is no reason to be sad. any serious person will tell you that such a regime with such a planned economy and such an equal, uh , idea of ​​the world will sooner or later be covered with a copper basin, only when, well, we waited - we waited 70- the thing is, he covered up again, if you don’t fight with such a regime and you understand that he is a trendsetter, then you can just wait for it , purely optional , for as long as you want , just study. there is the people there are russian old believers who went to the taiga somewhere and live there in the 15th century to this day, this is their sacred right. let them live in the taiga. the main thing is that they don't touch us. let all russians live in

the taiga, they don't know how. mr. vitaly, they don’t care anyway, the problem is that we need to distance ourselves from them and stop living in the hope that they will become wiser so that they will suddenly think that ukraine is not russia, they won’t be at least in the next generations of people and the more people they have there will die in the war, the more obvious this hatred will be. this is the desire for revenge. so let's think exclusively about how to convince the west to make ukraine part of the west , part of nato, part of the european union, and not think about how to convince the russians to stop eating meat and start eating broccoli broccoli i don't know if you're talking about nato and an interesting statement was made by henrikesinger, ex-secretary of state of the usa . however, i honestly did not understand it . i hope you will explain what he meant , he said that the usa should accept