[000:00:00;00] you are right, this position remained the same for two weeks and when we read the martyrdom of america, we will remember a week ago the statement of the chiefs of staff of general milli, who said that our task is to negotiate with russia , that is, to end the war as soon as possible because europe and the americans are suffering from sanctions they pay a lot, so there are elections in the usa and so on, that's why he said to the measure. our task is to force russia from a position of strength to go to negotiations and make concessions. but it turned out that putin is not going to make any concessions

and in the end it came to them that after all, ukraine must liberate the territories and achieve victory over the russian federation, but so that this does not lead to an escalation of relations between the united states of america and russia , they are still afraid of this, the fear that putin can eventually to use tactical nuclear weapons, that's why they always act with an eye on putin, sir, as far as i remember, mark is kind, but in the context of the fact that you mentioned his words, he meant that a situation could arise on the battlefield when none of the parties will be successful, and then as an option, he believes that it is advisable to sit down at the negotiating table simply because there will be no progress , but surely one of the important aspects that has changed or has already crystallized in the form in which we currently see the aviation coalition is precisely the visits of volodymyr zelenskyi let's talk about them in more detail. let's talk in the context of europe and the east of

ukraine, the far east, and in particular , the one that ended this sunday. therefore , volodymyr zelenskyy called on arab countries to support the ukrainian peace envisages the withdrawal of russian troops from the occupied territories with such an address the president spoke at the summit of the league of arab states held in saudi arabia during his visit to this country to him, with his country's participation in the negotiations, the result of which was the release of ten ukrainian prisoners of war, the president also drew the attention of the leaders of the arab countries to the oppression of rights representatives of the muslim community of the crimean tatar people in the temporarily occupied crimea, the owner of the sami, muhammad ibenessala salman al-saut, expressed interest in the restoration of the infrastructure of ukraine and investments in our country, and it is interesting to grigory, e.e. project 16 was also discussed , and the arab world is also interesting to us because we

we understand how many russian assets there are, whether they are legal or not is another matter, but they settle there a lot and the position of the global rooster is important to us . this has been talked about for a long time in the arab world for them to be on our side, there is definitely the fact that the west gives us support and the democratic community is also unanimous in our support , as shown by today's summit of the great seven in hiroshima. of the world of african countries yes they they either take a neutral position or try to uh in some way uh not to express their unanimous support to you or

the other side of this conflict believing that this in principle, an interstate conflict between two states, and that is why it is important to involve the forces of the united nations and because if we try to do it, we see how china is doing it a-a gaining its own influence in this arab world a-a yes, in the muslim world and from here, it becomes clear to you that we still need to explain the situation that ukraine is a victim of aggression, it needs help, that's why zelensky is talking about freedom of religion and so on, what do we sensitively say to the islamic world , that is, we are making our way into this arab world

and the muslim world in order to first of all get their support and prevent them from becoming an aggressor on the side of the country of russia, and on the other hand, to promote their interests related to the economy and investments and the strengthening of sanctions because the saudi paradise as you know, it plays a big role in op k, of course, it is regulated by world prices, and energy is the main factor that feeds the military budget of russia, and therefore it is definitely necessary to prove our convictions that, in principle, our president valery zelenskyi is successfully doing this, as we saw on his tour it's clear thank you for joining hryhoriy perepelitsa international conflictologist director of the institute of foreign policy studies professor of the kyiv national university was in touch with us what's up we are continuing our broadcast

now a decisive moment for the fate of peace in ukraine and for the future world order about this was stated by volodymyr zelenskyy at a meeting with the prime minister of japan , they discussed further assistance from japan, in particular, to strengthen the material and technical capabilities of the military defense of ukraine, the president noted that he expects that japan will support the holding of a global summit with the implementation of the ukrainian peace formula . in addition, they agreed on the involvement of japanese business in the reconstruction of ukraine. in the context of ukraine's cooperation with japan , information appeared that this country is transferring 100 trucks and 30,000 dry rations and in addition

will receive wounded ukrainian soldiers for the first time in the central hospital, for sure we will learn about the other results of volodymyr zelenskyi's trip to the seven summit, but in your opinion, what is the main thing we can note apart from the fact that ukraine was represented at such a high level . in fact, everything is important, but for us, that is f16 a we have worked for a week now in the delegation of various parliamentarians in washington. and you know that it was very difficult for us to get this decision from the united states, and in fact, we asked for it, we argued and explained why we need for the best counteroffensive and for the fastest liberation of the territory, as well as a faster end to the war, we need air defense, we need more patriots, but first of all we need f16 fighter jets there, and now it seems to me that this is an absolutely historic decision in this war. we met him in washington. we talked a lot. about him with the senators and the congressman. i think it will be completely canceled. we don't even know how many

of our pilots are currently being trained, and the usa will officially help in this, and the usa also said about what it allows, yes, because according to the rules of the usa, it must give permission for the transfer of f-16 to european countries that also have and are ready to transfer them to ukraine, well, in the future, i hope that we will directly receive f-16 from here . what do you think, you really say that it is already big the work was done by the ukrainian delegations and the president of ukraine and, of course, the armed forces of ukraine, because not if it were not for their success, if not for their victory , our international partners would hardly have believed in us , but what do you think became this turning point moment in the decision of this and you know there are really many factors here. a huge thank you to the president and the office and the diplomat and oksana markarova, the ambassador here . i worked unreal with the whole team, but it seems to me that what changed the course of history is that our boys and girls

who stopped which who worked in the air defense yes in the patriots, including the administration , the patriots stopped six high-speed missiles and daggers of the russian federation, which were considered by both the americans and the russian federation to be impossible in order to dig them up and that's it on the first day when we were in washington, we had a day and in kyiv it was a night, nobody slept because six, you remember then, daggers and a large number of other missiles of iranian drones were flying towards kyiv and we stopped them all and it seems to me that the americans, in the morning they realized that this is not an accident , but we are professionals, we know how to work well with experience, we were trained to work on patriots, but this is not an accident. we went even further than the americans in our training, and we learned to stop what happened to russia with an invincible weapon, you remember how the bear boasted that it would take a dagger from any european capital in 20 seconds to ask or in 5 minutes, yes and no, we stop them and i think that this became a real

catalyst for that, a huge thanks to the armed forces, of course, but to the boys and girls who operate our air defense systems over kyiv and over other cities, friends, this is really your merit, you rightly noted the difference in time zones that there was a day when russia attacked ukraine , the traitor is always at night, and what did your colleagues, well, that is, when you did not find out about these are your colleagues abroad, maybe american diplomats or politicians, because the news about this spread quite quickly, and look. well, actually, how can i tell you, we have come a long way in communicating with the senator and congressmen, the emphasis, of course , on working with those in the security committee of defense, international policy and intelligence. and even if six months ago they told us that it would be absolutely unimportant to get f16 , don't even ask.

they are worried about the use of their er, how do you say intellectual there er intelligence of data, including if they fall into the hands of russia, then these reasons became fewer and fewer and with the word impossible, we always gnawed it with our teeth, all together together eh from to every ukrainian who went to a rally here to every delegation that came here and to every rocket that was shot down by the forces of our currents and all these impossible things were turned into maybe it was like that by the way, with patriots, so were they with tanks, so were sky mars is already behind 16. therefore, this is our big joint victory. the main thing is that the key word now is speed, and the main thing is that it happens quickly. hello, very often , unfortunately, very often. ukrainian diplomacy is the reform of the un and so on. it seems that here too well, let's go through interesting statements , let's talk about them in more detail. it's time to reform the un security council. this was announced by the secretary general of the organization, antonio

otelish, according to the radbesalon needs such updating or meeting the realities of today's world, the global financial architecture has become outdated, has become unfair in the face of economic shocks from the covid-19 pandemic, the russian invasion of ukraine, it has failed to fulfill its main function of global security ms. alyona and i want to note for our viewers because you are one of the activists of the movement an-rasha yu-yon or ta petitions to remove the russian federation from the united nations on february 24 of this year. you also wrote a column in e-e time designed why russia does not have a place in the united nations. surely you welcome such statements by the hotelier but what does this mean? well, are these just words or is it really a signal that the un council can be, or rather, it should be reformed, but what are they already thinking about how to reform it, and look, they have been thinking about how to reform it

for almost a year, unfortunately, we do not have it's just a luxury and to wait so long , of course we welcome the words of kocher, and of course we repeatedly appealed to dobutyerasha so that the countries that are members of the world finally find the courage to throw out russia, which is there illegally, and to reform in general radbes because radbes well, let's be honest, it didn't completely fulfill its function, the un was absolutely unable to do anything about this war , it was created in order to stop such things , to stop direct aggression, direct annexation of territories, instead, the un gave russia a platform, russia spoke there for hours and imposed on it for every decision on ukraine , the situation is absolutely idiotic, so at some point we already, well, to be honest, thought that he would die in the same way as the league of nations once died because we could not cope with the second world war and hitler, i still have hope, there is still optimism that maybe he is really going. and this is not just the un, it should be members of the council of security , specific countries, 15 of them, except for russia, one of them should gather with courage, how do our boys and girls at the front gather

every day how do they gather ukrainians have been there for more than a year and finally you are up for challenges. let's put it this way. asking about how russia is there in general is a very simple procedure. you can just stand up at the security council and ask russia on the basis of which papers it became a member of the security council. there are no such papers. sorry, sour this is our representative, uh, he is constantly talking about it from the un podium, they are constantly emphasizing this. but of course, kislytsia is fighting for it as much as possible , just like we all do. france or switzerland to great britain or the usa or some other countries , and we have been negotiating with them about this for more than six months, and i really hope that they will be able to do and further reform the radbes, throw russia out of there and expand it in general. well in fact, ukraine should take the place of russia, and other

countries from latin america and africa should get a place in the divorce, because the super-bass which was created then is absolutely the responsibility of the time . here is exclusively the pro-russian federation and its expulsion from this organization , or is it more about the global system? this organization needs not only reformatting, but in general, you know, it has disappear, and on the basis of this one, it is possible to build something new. look. well, if it is not able to change itself, this organization will definitely disappear, yes, because there is no trust in it, and it did not react and did nothing, so that it could stop war in ukraine, in my opinion , first of all, it is important to throw out the aggressor and deprive the aggressor of the right to veto, because russia continues to impose the right of veto

. can to make these decisions that concern them, in fact, this is and so i am in the statute, but no one implements it and it gets away with it. therefore , it is obvious that it needs reform. well , the third security council should be expanded, as i already said, in my opinion, instead of russia, there should be ukraine and it is obvious that, well, that it will be a guarantee of our security and the security of europe for the future . yes, we talk a lot about what nato's guarantee can be , of course. there is no permanent non-representation of africa there is no permanent representation of latin america there is no representation of the global cock it 100% should be should one of the permanent members of the security council be put on the agenda of the un security council? temporary members cannot do this, nor

temporary members, anyone from the security council can do it, any ambassador of a country who is a member of the soviet security council can stand up and say that i want to ask for this procedural decision , even on the basis of which documents russia is currently in the soviet security council, the funny thing is that you cannot veto this decision because it is procedural , that is, russia can raise this very issue and next, they will ask the warden and the legal department for documents, the documents do not exist, because you know that russia was never voted a member of the united nations , in the first place, it received this place as if it were an inheritance from the soviet union, and it did not have the right to this inheritance either, so it will be it's an interesting discussion, which, i hope, will reform the organization simply according to an ordinary letter from the russian president at the time, as far as i remember mr. alyona, then i continue my logic if the temporary members of the security council can do it, but they cannot give up their turn for ukraine, because there is a queue and if no one

wants to take responsibility to be the initiator, ukraine is ready to do it, only we need a seat in the un security council temporarily, at least uh, in the near future , we can’t come to us yet, they are ready, look at me i really like your logi but that’s the problem that he is a very criticized, outdated, somewhat anarchic organization , which tacitly accepts the rules of the game that russia has already established, and just like that. to change the agenda that was formed legally by silent consent. i hope that there will be a moment in the war and it will be definitely closer to our victory when it can be done, so we must be ready for that, the verkhovna rada voted the resolution. the fact that russia is illegally a member of the un, that's why we sent these letters to all our partners and the parliament of the world, we are preparing for this and

i really hope that such a moment will come. we also believe, we know and we are approaching this step. work, you also said about it. thank you, alyona shkrom e cherenki , the committee on tax and banking activities and also the representative of ukraine in various international delegations was with us, we continue to talk about this, the most powerful democratic countries in the world like never before united determination to overcome global challenges from today, the most acute of which is russia's aggression against ukraine . these are the results of the group itself, which took place at the end of the week in japan. to limit the military and economic potential in russia , in particular, to prevent the use of marine energy carriers as weapons, all of them also condemned the militarization of china and its use

economic levers to achieve political goals on the sidelines of the summit, a number of important statements were made, for example, un secretary general antonio guterres proposed reforming the un security council and improving global security and the financial system that developed after the second world war. imposes a veto on them about this not only we talk with our next guest ihor chalenko head of the center of analysis and strategy contact us welcome mr. ihor congratulations share your impressions of the results of the group of seven summit and in general how do you assess how the agreements within the framework of this summit can affect the course of the war in ukraine, well, first of all , much more than i expected, much more productive and more positive actually for ukraine, of course i i think that the personal presence of president zelenskyi, who was still able to attend the summit of the leaders of the jaysovan countries, played a role in this, and what

struck me really struck me was the crazy unity and the crazy support of ukraine and if earlier for example, to mention the same france after visiting china , well, i had the impression that maybe somewhere there is a question about the general coalition around ukraine, now this summit of the leaders of the big seven has demonstrated that the civilized world is really with us. we can go on the offensive and not only. but of course we will seek peace precisely in the context of the ukrainian peace formula, and you know, for me , it is really extremely positive that on this platform the president of ukraine zelensky proposed to hold a sambir summit of formulas in accordance with the peace formula up to 500 days from the beginning

of a large-scale invasion, this is extremely important because it will show who is really fighting to ensure that such aggression is not repeated on planet e in order to overcome this planetary threat as soon as possible . what is the most important thing, in my opinion, from an applied point of view for our military. of course , this is the crystallization of this aviation coalition at last. i think everyone has been waiting for this and we will still wish to see the f16 in the sky of ukraine already a certain number of months, igor, but in your opinion , isn’t there a specific time limit for ukraine, because there is an expectation, and international observers write about it, too, the expectation of a ukrainian counteroffensive and also the activation or accumulation of forces specifically for his counteroffensive and

further support for ukraine will depend on its results, well, at least this is the opinion of some of these commentators . do you think there is really such a certain international pressure on ukraine in this situation? the pressure is of course present. but again, it lies in the democratic decision-making in each of the countries that are our partners in the fight against the russian aggressor, and that is why the direct participation of president zelensky today and the entire mobilization of ukrainian diplomacy is all that we see now yermak kuleba is there, stefanchuk , well, look, we are now flying all over the world in order to convince leaders . well, in general, representatives of national authorities in different parts of the world to show our position and precisely what our proposal

is today as correct as possible, therefore, of course, today there are similar requests regarding the offensive will take place, then we will somehow outplay it but the most important thing is that ukraine can resist certain well, let's say so destructive and at the same time show our own about the activity we are doing now exactly what made it possible to unite around the official kyiv, well, in fact, since february 22nd, the entire civilized world and we continue to do it now and in the future, they igor and if we talk about this decision on the f-16, the white house announced joseph biden has not yet decided who will hand over these fighter jets to our country. the question is that the minister of defense of ukraine, mr. reznikov, has already announced what is coming. this week there will be a meeting in the rammstein format. how important do you think everything will be before this meeting ? to agree and put the dots over and and already there is to make

this decision. who provides us with how many of these fighters, i will say yes, it is not in principle whether the usa directly provides us with the corresponding f16 fighters today in the world, i will remind you approximately 4,600 units have already been released, so the most important thing from the usa is the permission to re-export the corresponding fighters. that is, there are enough of them in the world in general. the question is why the usa gave this green light, and i think that, like the example of the easel coalition , other partners can of course take the first step, but for the most important thing for us right now is to really start training our pilots, what great britain is offering there, and obviously in a few months there, in 3-4 months, they will provide all the minimum infrastructure so that this western platform can function in the ukrainian well, plus, again, we see there are political nuances regarding the use

of the f-16 on the territory of russia, but we have already said that we are fully fulfilling our commitment to western weapons, so i don't see any problems here, i say if we talk about the security architecture in general, this is because we are talking about the reform of the un security council, and we remember that ukraine has several tracks on its own security and on the security of the european continent - in particular , ukraine's accession to nato and its strengthening from this it seems that ukraine and our neighbors will all win. well, it is the alliance, because ukraine now has the most military experience, and on the other hand , we remember the kyiv cutie kit , the ukrainian alternative option that will guarantee security for us, and about him too recently, officials from ukraine are starting to talk, of course, if we are talking about this compact, i think that

our partners here, well, maybe somewhere in kyiv, they are also trying, you know, to make a certain mix, that is, to apply this compact. by the way there it was written that before joining the north atlantic alliance directly, specific states should guarantee the security of ukraine before we become members of nato , before it begins to act on our territory , according to the fifth article of the washington treaty, therefore, of course, the implementation of the kyiv security compact or e- e document based on it, from an applied point of view, this is precisely our direct tactic, which, by the way, could now remove certain positive pessimistic notes from individual nato member countries, why not

give us a road map at the summit in vilnius that is, we are showing that there is, please, an alternative option for ensuring the security of ukraine's access to nato, and at the same time, of course , we can move along the path of euro-atlantic integration, so i think that these two tracks should be implemented in parallel, but the previous secretary general of nato is just a fugasmusan who in including the drafting of the text of this agreement, the kyiv security agreement, if it is possible to translate it into ukrainian. then he spoke in public while answering the questions of the media. and who should be the first to sign? he says that well, we are not we are setting such a goal, but if it were the united states , it would be a powerful signal, and so far we do not see clear signals from washington . after all, the domestic political situation

in the united states plays a role here, ah well, obviously, it is not directly unwillingness to support ukraine, because we understand that the united states still plays a key role today in supporting our state in the confrontation with by the russian aggressor but of course it would not be bad either the states or great britain would also be good but i think that the states know now that they are showing that they do not want to demonstrate this first violin playing but want other european states to take this first step because there is too much criticism inside the u.s. itself from the republicans, especially from trump, and we see that there are not enough european countries in the issue of ukraine, maybe it is now, but in fact, i think there is a complex of factors and everything exactly, we can convince our american

partners today, we know that the same line of yermak sullivan is actively working there, in that this compact must be adopted, or on its basis, a certain morning agreement , and again, i would also mention the budapest memorandum here because it would also be possible to tie him up, and then it would give even more hindsight to our safe aspirations, and it would add even more weight to these aspirations, so i think that in fact it can all be done as a matter of further victories, well, at least around the country is outlined in the budapest memorandum, and perhaps just then they will be ready to sign the kyiv compact igor's compact thank you ihor chalenko, the head of the center for analysis and strategy was with us the fourth tv channel in ukraine rada is working tonight to monitor and inform you about events in ukraine so all the country is now