[000:00:00;00] in order for the reconstruction process to begin in the state, we need our victory , whose destinies are being built there today on the front lines, and the task of the state of these people is to support those who are at the front and those who will be demobilized in the future, because this is the elite of the military elite of our state, this is the task of mykhailo first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy and protection of veterans' rights, lieutenant general of the police, was with us in the studio. and the espresso tv channel continue the verdict with serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today may 22, 453 days of heroic resistance

of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers on monday night, russia again bombarded ukrainian cities with missiles and drones , the main blow this time it took over the city of dnipro and the region, the president of the united states of america, joe biden, said that in the battles in the bakhmut direction, russia had already lost more than 100,000 soldiers, meanwhile, the german chancellor olafshols says that ukraine will not become a member of nato in the near future, the russian occupiers continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of may 22, russia has already lost 203,880 people in ukraine in the last day alone , the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 720 orks with the beginning of the great war the russians have already lost in ukraine 1,785 tanks, 747 armored fighting vehicles, 3,278 artillery systems, 565

tractor salvo fire systems, 327 anti-aircraft defense systems, 309 aircraft, 294 helicopters, 673 vehicles 18 ships, boats, 1,100-11 cruise missiles, 2,830 drones, 427 units of automotive equipment, the russian federation is attacked by russian volunteers, ukraine is promised f16 , well, lukashenko is going to a meeting with vladimir putin, although the topic of the meeting has not yet been announced, and it is not clear what the belarusian dictator will talk about with his russian colleague we talk about this and other things in our program, i want to introduce today's first guest - he is a military expert, a colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, a military reserve pilot-instructor roman dawn on the colonel good

day and good health to you i wish you health thank you let's start with the f16 the president of the united states of america joe biden told about the plans to train ukrainian pilots on the fourth generation fighters including the f16 let's hear from biden and we asked for new stakes for ukraine are bridges , artillery, equipment, so that ukraine can defend itself, i said, er , ukrainian pilots will be trained on fourth-generation policies, including f16, to support ukraine's ability to defend itself

er, so that they could resist what is now and be able to defend themselves better, and better than before, the provision of the f-16 fighter to modern fighters in ukraine, er, was not the main topic of the big seven, of course, there were other issues, but for ukraine too much it is important to form a coalition of fighter jets. as volodymyr zelenskyy says, let's start this conversation and explain to our tv viewers what is changing with the arrival of f-16 aircraft in ukraine, what is it? how did they radically change the course of the russian-ukrainian war? confirmed the beginning of the training of ukrainian pilots for 16 of them, that's just that, almost before the meeting of the es council at the level of ministerial data, therefore, if they already took it, they confirmed it, and the beginning of training

means that somewhere in 3-4 months, you can already wait for this e-e planes to perform combat tasks on the fruit line, the task of aviation at this level is multi-purpose fighters that can be used in the mode of fighters and interceptors of bombers and attack aircraft, that is, they will perform the tasks of e-forces against air defense by strengthening e-e air defense of the country e-e by means of destruction at er ranges of the radius of hostilities. and this er radius is somewhere around the floor of 1,000 km, plus the range of the missile is somewhere around 150 km, so at least at a range of 650 km, our air defense can destroy rockets , planes, and any the enemy's unmanned aerial vehicles with the help of these planes , that is, we increase the shoulder and make a long arm for our provocation system, when these

fighters and these same planes come, they can fulfill the task of supporting the offensive offensive efforts of our on the ground, increasing the power of defeat with the help of free-falling bombs on guided bombs, unguided rockets, guided air, the ground, literally, we break into russian fortified areas from the air in front of our advancing units, and using them will reduce our losses somewhere on the order of 10 it will depend on the number of these planes and

on the weapons that will be transferred with them, this is very important . this is like an airplane in itself. he can carry 9 suspensions, so he can carry any weapon that most of the types of weapons that are on uh, um, are on combat uh post in nato, that ’s bombs, that’s boom, fools, that’s how they go effective volodymyr zelenskyi at the final press conference after the meeting with the leaders of the big seven announced that how many planes and when it will be possible to get them, it is not yet known about the receipt , says zelenskyi such planes need

to be accelerated, let's hear from volodymyr zelenskyi , in addition to the ppp of various formats, you know that this is a global system, we are not only talking about petrivna, we are grateful for the fact that we have been handed over we are grateful for the powerful package of arrests, we are grateful for the samshi, and this is a really large number, which today is not enough to protect our skies. nevertheless, a part of this must be carried out by western-style aviation, and that is why we worked so hard on it, and today the mission is open to us. training is the first step. then there is an appropriate number of months for the training of our pilots, we will work so that these people are as much as possible, as soon as possible, educated people. i mean experienced people with a lot of

experience, in order to shorten the training process and to they appeared, we strengthened our state, especially the defense, i can't tell you now how many planes we will be able to get, i can't tell you exactly when it will be, we will speed it up, because it is important for us, we lose people every day, mr. colonel, the president does not can name how many planes we can get. and you, i think, can say what our need for these planes is, that is, what is the optimal number for ukraine in order to fulfill the tasks that are facing us now on the eastern , in particular, and the southern fronts. the nominal figure depends on the possibility of the system of providing these aircraft when the ratio of the price of the service is related to the quality of the performance of combat tasks , the nominal figure is 40 machines

40 aircraft where - that m-m brigade of three out of three squadrons, that is, eh, each of the damage, or 12 planes, 300 or 36 planes plus the control bell, 4 planes from 40 planes , it is convenient, eh, to operate one piece of equipment with the operational honor of one team of engineers, that's the most denomination and here is uh it makes less sense to increase the service, that is, the flight time will be very expensive if there are less than 40 planes. well, we need 5 brigades for a full conversion, that is, 200 planes. that is, from 40 to 200 planes, this is optimal. an option for us when we receive these machines, but to carry out the combat tasks of one breach , that is, to maintain one breakthrough on

the azot coast, we will allow a general direction to luhansk, there to armyansk, one brigade is enough, that is, 40 machines later, i think we will get at least forty machines, but if possible, the optimal option for implementation is, let's say two or three, let's break through it with one main, two secondary , it's always roughly calculated like this, we need about 80 to 120 machines, well, at least 40 of us should receive something similar, mr. colonel, that the main question that arises when the f16 planes are transferred to ukraine by western partners, because the manufacturer is the united states of america. well , other countries can export these planes to ukraine, if washington allows it , the question is whether ukraine will use it

these planes in order to penetrate the geographical territory of the russian federation. let's say that biden in hiroshima said that he had received an assurance from zelensky that these planes would not be used to attack the territory of the russian federation, how was it and what did biden say , let's see and why i have an assurance from zelenskyi that they will not use the 16th to enter the geographical territory of russia, but where there are russian troops in the territory of ukraine, they will be able to do it, thank you very much. well, here is an interesting moment that the national security adviser to the president of the united states of america, jake sullivan, said that the united states of america will not object to the use of its

weapons by kyiv to strike crimea, because crimea, which jake sullivan says is the territory of ukraine , today appeared a message from the deputy minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation saliva on the strikes on crimea crimea is a part of the russian federation, the threats and the statements of the united states of america are irresponsible, the russian federation will find a way to prevent the threats from being implemented possible strikes on crimea, i don't quite understand that the russians are still afraid that with the appearance of the f-16, the issue of crimea will simply be solved much faster than they imagined , right, mr. colonel ? er transfer in the 16th of the future and some restrictions that our partners er ask us to fulfill we will definitely fulfill that is, if our partner it is important

not to use these machines on the territory of er russia of course we will not use them we respect relations with our partners and we will definitely support them, but we do not need to use them on the territory of russia and enter the territory of russia, since we are not russians, we do not need someone else's, we will not give ours, but we will not take someone else 's that is, the use of these machines over the territory of ukraine in the territory of occupied ukraine, and as biden said the region is very important . it was not a reservation. eh, in the area of ​​hostilities, this is the black sea, this is the black sea, they paid for this aircraft, which also moves on the black sea, because this is enough to carry out the combat tasks of the liberation of our territories, crimea - this is one of the first tasks

of liberating, yes how exactly crimea is a big problem for us while russian troops are there, it is impossible to attack the donbass , they can withdraw from crimea, they will repeat approximately the same operation as they repeated last year, when our forces entered unequivocally, crimea will be the first to be liberated, after the cleansing of crimea, the operation to liberate donbass will begin already, the planes from er will be successfully used for the liberation of crimea, and the use of the planes will greatly reduce the losses of the structure, the losses of er in buildings and in er for the shape of crimea itself, as uh, aviation uses high-precision weapons, and there are about a hundred military objects that will be destroyed with the help of aviation very quickly military objects of the russian

federation well, and then the ground troops who will enter the territory of crimea before they will wipe out crimea from russia. russians with weapons will be destroyed. russians without weapons will be deported in accordance with international norms . it is obvious to the colonel that we are talking not only about that part of the infrastructure that is located on the peninsula, but also on the sea. because it is clear that there are 60-70 e-e ships and boats, this is approximately the grouping of the number of ships and boats of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, part of them is based in sevastopol as a known part of the novorossian and e-e, what will e-e be after the use of f16 it is possible to say in the sea and in the places where the black sea fleet is based, that is, they will be forced to simply move to the territory of the russian federation, the territorial waters of the russian federation into the new russian, that is, the black

sea fleet will be displaced in this case, er, sailors and pilots call the black sea a diminutive-derogatory rukomoynikov well that is based on those er spaces of range that can afford ships and go ships and er airplanes fly with the help of aviation will destroy any surface ship well, with the help of some types of weapons and underwater ships, then, based on military necessity , the best option for the russians is to leave the black sea , go to the mediterranean and cross to other countries if turkey allows them, that is, the exit, and in the second case, they they will be zapped, let's say, in the bays of novorossiysk, and there they will be destroyed by drones that will reach them and

novorossiysk, including later пределы этого рукомной какой языку black sea f16 is the same plane that can carry almost 70-80% of the weapons of nato countries, and there is a very large range of a couple of dozens of missiles, namely anti-ship missiles, which are practically impossible. you saw it on uh, how did the cruiser moscow go to the bottom here is something like this in the same mode, only with an air component, all the other ships of the black sea fleet can be sunk , what about the number of missiles, well, two or three on board, that is, somewhere up to 200 missiles, 200 missiles, that is a small number of 200 missiles and no black sea fleet. therefore, i think some decisions will be made by the russian black sea fleet to withdraw from the black sea, and we

will achieve this in the course of literally me. as soon as we get the first, uh, the first squadron or the first brigade with this weapon. well and the bases of the black sea fleet in crimea , they will be hit mainly by either air-to-ground guided missiles or guided glide bombs it will be enough to disable any bay, but 150 objects in crimea, this is also about 3-5 air bombs each, and these 150 objects are somewhere more than 1,000 air bombs , but this is not a big problem. we have enough of these even the same fact, 500 are not controlled by free-falling

drones , which have now been handed over to us by er. je ladies from er. these bombs are very cheap and very quick to destroy russian military objects in crimea and very jewelry, you would have said that, mr. colonel, they told us that such planes could appear in our skies in 3-4 months, it is clear that the infrastructure there is necessary for the maintenance of these planes is understandable, but at the same time, british intelligence says that russia is creating an elite air group to participate in the war against ukraine, according to the assumption of british intelligence, russia is creating a new summer strike aviation group under the code name storm to participate in the war against ukraine, we are talking about one squadron of su-24 and su-34 fighter bombers, as well as a squadron of attack helicopters

, it is obvious that about 3-4 months before the delivery of r16 on the territory of ukraine and its use by ukrainian pilots will be quite critical for the ukrainian side because the russians will increase the pressure and we can see how during the last month or a half they are actively trying to strike peaceful conditions in kyiv and create tension inside what does it mean for the ukrainian state to create a squadron of su-24 and su-34 fighter-bombers? is this exclusively front-line history , that is, at the front, will they use or will they be able or have the opportunity to strike on the territory of ukraine and in such a way that our air defense does not shot down these planes these front-line bombers are right, that is, they work along the front line at the range of the combat radius, the text of the defeat

that they can carry, based on the nomenclature of weapons that are in the russians have a range of er somewhere up to 70 km and guided missiles and er gliding air bombs that are not also recently used pickups, that is, collected air bombs , including, that is, to a depth of 70 km, they can hit er military not it is important to have any objects at a depth of 70 km, but from the launch point it is very important, that is, you need to approach them in order to drop a bomb at a depth of 70 km on our unoccupied territory, you need to approach the front line it is exactly this kind of action that our air defense does not have for the russians they admit, that is, we shot down a su-34 from we shot down one su-

34 at enakievo . comes out of the black sea to mainland ukraine with demands, we knock it down in our country, the range of the conjugation is now eh those funds that were transferred to us up to 150 km later the third she just won't go to the linefront no matter what it's about we will drop them, we will destroy them with the help of anti-aircraft missile complexes, which are now being transferred to us just for this purpose , while we do not have the f16, but after the f16 appears , it will already have a range of the combat radius of the f16, and i will repeat the minimum 500 km, this is closer

five hundred kilometers will not fit pigs against it, they know very well, because these two stages that do not create the history of suicide bombers will not make at most two combat sorties each and will remain forever in the black soil of ukraine if they are not searched for will they take the bodies around the country or later? no, there are no problems for our pro system. you have already mentioned this story with the planes that were shot down over the bryansk region. there were also three helicopters that accompanied it . there were a lot of discussions about what happened. i understand that our weapons that are currently in service, forgive me for this tautology eh in the ukrainian army allows eh b at a distance of up to 100 km deep into russia, simply

seeing these targets is not just to see impress eh is this the first and why is this weapon not used on your border perimeter in a different way? a little later it is possible to use e-e patriots let’s allow p3 sem t e-e understand which e-e positions the same for sanctions if there is a missile i m120 ama and bc or di let’s allow with more and distance e-e that is use these e-e complexes point by point in the mode of the so-called missile ambush or by the second is called shooting at a discount, that is, when we understand the route eh and the exit of the russian planes to the drop point

of the air bomb and we simply catch them. on march 12, the su-34 was shot down. this is not the meaning. the missile regiment turned off something. yes, the president rewarded them for this operation . the s- 300 was pulled up to the front line. around 15 seconds of initiation, launch of the locator, and 2015-20 seconds, and the flight of the rocket takes half a minute, and in approximately the same mode , the plane was destroyed, on may 13, when they asked on saturday, when they asked, mmm, in an obvious way, to reset the correctable air bombs , the su-34- heh ekatekerka is an air group that covers itself, that is, there are two sides, not eight, for the sake of electronic

warfare, they enter eh in a certain waiting zone , it begins to deliver eh electronic delivery for the means of defeat eh, further eh, to this zone the su-34 comes out of the open su-35, here is the 34 - this is the so-called matka bomb, that is, it carries up to 12 air bombs, and it is covered by fighter jets 135 as a system of anti-aircraft defense, that is, it covers the entire shelf here in at that moment, it turned on when they had already reached the reset line. at that moment, it was most likely the patriot that turned on, since cnn later confirmed that it was the patriot that shot down the su-34. most likely, this is the operation, and petry turned on. its destruction detection range is 150 km therefore, the distance to the border was somewhere up to 70 km in the area of ​​klintsov, that

is, it does not matter how he approached the border 10-20 50 km ahead. there plus or minus 20 km. well, the fifth flight is the 8th . according to the protocol of the search and rescue service, we see it , pss . the place of the disaster and its ego also eh destroyed petrio, that is, they were from one battery with several launchers, five ships were destroyed at once , this is the mode in which we will protect our advancing troops, because it is not one, uh, squadron . whatever it is, it is just lightning at a distance of 100 km the breakthrough of the advancing ukrainian troops will not come to the point mr. colonel over the past few days there have been a lot of statements about what

is happening in bakhmut by joe biden, who was in hiroshima for a meeting with the leaders the big seven said that the losses of the troops of the russian federation under bakhmut are estimated at more than 100,000 soldiers and in a significantly destroyed place, as he said, we will hear biden. for example, bakhmut, the question is whether it was lost or not. and the truth is that more than 100 thousand russians lost in bakhmut, this it is very difficult to compensate for what will happen whether or not there are troops in bakhmut, this is a devastated city , there is not much left, then the russian

troops, including wagner's group, were able to close everything, so colonel, let's put dots above and above bakhmut and especially regarding the latest statements this weekend, did bakhmut fulfill his mission or is he still fulfilling it, and how should we treat the statements , including the russian disappearances of english channels, which are quite actively talking about the fact that we have already reached the city limits there towards the abyss of time, and we have this destroyed city completely under control, and zelensky compares this city to hiroshima, apparently, it is much worse there because there was a nuclear explosion in hiroshima. well, here, they just destroyed the city’s artillery and various types of weapons