[000:00:00;00] well, it was accepted. that is, it is already final, according to the new provisions, documents can now be seized in various situations, and in particular, if a citizen, that is, a russian, is called up for military service or sent to alternative civilian service, if the russian works in the federal security service , or if concludes an employment contract with an organization that provides access to information of special importance or state secrets; closes the russian federation, as predicted; withdraws foreign passports; escapes; waits like rats for everything is closed, so now we invite to our broadcast roman kostenko, people's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, colonel of the security service of ukraine , glory of ukraine, mr. colonel, glory to the heroes, well , i would like to talk about a lot of topics

, but in using you as a qualification, competence so to speak, i would like to hear your assessment of the so-called security guarantees , the vilnius nato summit is approaching, we understand that history is extremely important, yes, we understand that there is no consolidated position regarding ukraine's membership regarding the support of the entire corps of states that are part of nato, yes, and accordingly, even votes on certain formulas for providing us with certain guarantees on our general path to nato. formulas for giving us certain guarantees . the french are also talking about this, about some kind of guarantees . the americans are talking about it. well, but already the budapest memorandum, so to speak, everyone has chewed it up in time and had their fill. well, accordingly so that something like this does not happen, well, the best guarantees that can be for

us is the entry of nato, it is indisputable that it is written in our constitution and that is what we have to go to. our partners because everyone understands what guarantees were not there, and you rightly said that i am an example of this. the budapest memorandum seemed at the time to be the highest that could be devised, despite the fact that ukraine is giving away its nuclear potential, but it is not working, all these guarantees, those about what are we we are saying that nato membership can provide us with all the other guarantees that we are talking about now, well, look at us , and now there are several options, we know that there are supplies of weapons to ukraine. there is a list of the countries to which they should supply weapons, are you helping us, and they are supplying us with weapons now, and if

there is already a question of guarantees without joining nato , it is necessary to write down more specifically what types of weapons in what quantities in defense against of the russian federation, each country should provide us. i think that these guarantees must be provided with specifics , not that germany will provide machines there, the united states will provide f-16 or patriots there, but specifics should be specifically prescribed that the country supplies how much, then these will be guarantees if it will be like this in general, as it is written there, on 10 pages , there are uh fairmak makfol there for these guarantees, they are so generalized, it is enough, it is very much without anyone, i think it can all be later, we need specifics until we go there how much in case of what if we are standing on the edge of civilized europe on the edge of protecting democracy we have to understand uh so that in case of what someone

can give us how much why what can uh consider now in the near future some specific special model uh for ukraine and nato, that is, some kind of partial membership, i don’t know, some kind of e-e coalition, that is, not direct nato accession, but also not the security guarantees that we are talking about right now . look at everything that is outside of nato , such a partnership, because what currently exists can be for ukraine will come up with some other model, but all the models that exist now , they themselves give everything to the ransom of nato or to the ransom of other states regarding their specific decision , will they help us or not, i think that this can be a model if we say

now there is theoretically that we are not taken from nato, i say once again that it will be specified for each country that can help us or nato itself so that there may be a case of aggression against us. i don't know what they will call it, that nato's brother or something. it should be like this that nato gives such an aggression such and such a number of e-weapons such and such gives resources and forces russia to use there tactical or some kind of nuclear weapons to protect ukraine also, well, such a model can be thought out, but i will say once again that these are all such guesses and we will say hotels i would really like, but the best thing is still the donato movement and the security guarantees we have in the fifth article of the nato charter when all countries protect you, well , they protect themselves from each other in the event of an attack on one chest ago and again i say

the specifics have already shown, the policy has shown the war showed 30 years of independence, whether we signed various treaties, or only when it is written specifically and in the right words so that later they do not say it is a memorandum and it is not our duty and it is e there it is our right or our desire , everything should already be spelled out specifically, what in the case once again i will repeat the attack on ukraine, each country must do one two three that is written in the correct words, which are legal, then you cannot make such other decisions, well, actually, what will be the military consequences of certain legal formulas - this is a key story and we understand that also an extremely important story, it is about long-range missile systems, the british gave the go-ahead to storm shadow already in ukraine , as far as we understand, they are already working well, but this is more likely a so-called state or military secret, but mr. roman, we would like to ask you in general about the scenario from the russian side , we understand that that the situation in bakhmut and around

bakhmut is ambiguous, our military is holding its position, we understand that the russians may find themselves in the pass, well, at least prigozhin, so to speak , is not the first time, of course, but it gives certain signals that they would, however, be ready to leave, rather, these are intra-russian negotiations. yes, but we understand that if there are several , so to speak, poles of power and several poles of decision-making and several poles of approach to the first cabinets , for example, in the kremlin, well, accordingly, then there is a lack of monolithicity in the adoption of the military decisions, this story is in principle not acceptable, but you can see the big front of the east of ukraine and the south of ukraine , which would you now note the most characteristic trends, in particular, well, taking into account the fact that it seems that we have already received the storm shadow eh well if we talk about politics inside russia and about their use

of various units, including mercenaries, here we can say that russia immediately followed the same path when it involved mercenaries, it involved kadyrovs, i can say here that they are somewhere on the same level because the kadyrov army she wants to participate behind the armed forces of the russian federation, but they have never considered themselves a part of this army. well, because they have their own ecology, and kadyrov understands that as long as this army exists, as long as he is a subject, it is somehow the same prigozhin also understands and after i when he announces that he will leave bakhmut, i think he would really like to do it already now because he wanted to do it before, there must have been some negotiations, he was asked to stay there, he would like to because he understands what if he leaves? because if he

stays, then after a while the weapons of ukraine , the defense forces of ukraine, they will destroy his wagnerian army. unit and because, because of them, prigozhin is a subject, if this army is destroyed, then i will repeat it again prigozhin will simply lose subjects, he is now holding on at the expense of this army, which even the units of the russian federation are afraid of that they really showed their work more effectively than the units of the russian federation, on the contrary, gerasimo, and i thought for sure that putin would like this army to remain and be protected there so that roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada's committee on issues of national security and defense and intelligence to contact us, well, the connection can rather jump. well, we will inform about the most important events of the day

. we hope now the editors will add mr. colonel to us again. ukraine has no opportunity now and no chance to win the war because that in his opinion, the russian federation is a big country - they have a large army, many of whom are not a pity, so, according to him, it seems that ukraine has no chance, and the ministry of foreign affairs already answered orban on such an application, they say , a year ago. everyone said that we would not last and so 72 hours are wrong and now we are returning and we have a renewed connection with the novel kostenko people's deputy of ukraine yes well we stopped at the fact that something flashed you know uh we closed our eyes and you disappeared opened them well i'll just say that one more time there what

it was beneficial for putin that prigozhin stayed. and it was beneficial for prigozhin to maintain his power of influence at the expense of these wagners. everyone understands that only for this. and he and kadyrov can somehow still be subjects that he is usually more than once and there is no need for that. i think they will do everything to those bakhmuts remained and the defense forces destroyed them. as for the missiles you say, the armed forces can say whether they were used or not, but speaking of the front line, this is the force that really gives and can give us the opportunity to knock out the enemy at the operational ranges of his logistics. its headquarters eh its there fuel and lubricants eh and materials and which will allow us to more actively

how much this will change this uh these missiles will change the course of the war and how much they will make russia pass there strike not only at military facilities, and there at the aircraft, it is also meant at the military infrastructure directly located on the territory of the occupied territories, and of course i think that there may be moments when it will be accepted it should be in a different way coalition and when will there be a coalition in this? and the most important thing about all the weapons that are supplied is its continuity of supply, uninterrupted supply , because the question is often asked. of ammunition and sometimes we need

1000 and so when we understand that all of this will be constantly supplied, then we can talk about one-time deliveries, they do not provide an opportunity for long-term planning, but colonel, how do you assess belarusian history we are not even talking about russian units. yes, we are talking about the unwillingness of the russians to meet their own war on the territory. we understand that scenarios on the territory of the russian federation can escalate completely unexpected for the kremlin. dollars and the prigozhyns will go, for example, on the bmp official ring. well, maybe it sounds like a certain one at the moment. i don’t know. science or not science fiction, but the scenario may be possible different well, accordingly, in belgorod, they did not expect such scenarios

, yes, this is what i am talking about in this case, why prigozhina needs an army, and kadyrov needs an army, yes , let’s understand once again that, first of all, in order to intimidate and show its effectiveness they have already intimidated the russian army, that is why we see it all. this story shows that russia really wanted to show itself as such a serious state that can not only defend itself, but also seize other territories. and now it has reached the point that hostilities transferred to inter now, you see, you know, all the seriousness, for example, the odkb , eh, we understand that it does not react in any way, russia does not recognize that i have someone on me, and all representatives of the odkb somehow turn their heads away, like no no the name is the same lukashenko, thank god, somehow there, i especially did not see him comment hmm well hmm, in

our country, volunteers from belarus are also fighting on our territory, and it could be something like that. they will want to liberate belarus, and it is not excluded. we are not we can tell the citizens of belarus what to do and express themselves correctly our civil protest, for example, but we can't, it's not a problem, it's the affairs of other states, we don't interfere in the affairs of other states , what they do among themselves, this also applies to belarus - this applies, for example, to the unrecognized transnistria. maybe there will be people who want it tomorrow to return him to his native havan, so we have to watch the events unfold in roman still has questions about this marine corps, the creation of which was announced today by president

volodymyr zelenskyi in the conditions of war, as soon as possible it is possible to form a professional high-quality corps in ukraine and what tasks will be assigned to it, i use the opportunity, with your permission, today is also the day of heroes to congratulate all ukrainian heroes and today is the day of the e-e marine corps of ukraine, i wanted to congratulate our marines who are also heroes and defend our land now, so the most important thing is to wish them victory and a faster return home . and what is the point of all this, that in these words lies this victory, that is, first of all, to be alive and defeat the russian federation once again i will stop at this, so happy holiday guys, you are better. and you are doing everything to defend our state. so that our victory comes as soon as possible. therefore, regarding the creation of the marine corps. well, we understand that we are a maritime state, the marine corps is designed

primarily for attacks from the sea and the capture of territory from the sea coast and we can bypass the russian federation places that we need can be duplicatively captured from the sea, this is crimea, this is our left coast, e.e. the possibilities for carrying out any operations, including naval ones, or we will be able to create it professionally in a short time , of course, if it was done there in peacetime , it would be possible to take, let’s say, a lot of time, it would be possible to recruit officers of individual to make uh, there is a separate weapon to give there is something specific, but here the second story is the marines - this is special - i understand that now everyone with experience of combat operations and our

command will do it quickly, and then after the victory we will develop it and already on those we will learn from the mistakes that were made and other countries will learn from this. thank you, mr. colonel roman kostenko, people 's deputy of ukraine, secretary of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, a colonel of the security service of ukraine was in direct contact with us, now we are joined by galina vasylchenko, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada's committee on finance, tax and customs policy, glory to ukraine, mrs. halyna, congratulations , glory to the heroes, congratulations well, the parliamentary delegation of ukraine held a number of important meetings in washington, so we ask you to share your parliamentary achievements, what was achieved, what did you manage to prove or convince the americans about, and in fact, together with other colleagues, we have not done this since last week

, i am still here today, i just have a flight, we were in washington, er, we had a number of meetings with congressmen, senators, and various representatives of the authorities , and of course, the key priority that we talked about at every meeting was aviation, there were f-16 planes. well, i actually want to i would like to say here that for a whole year, representatives of the authorities and representatives of the public sector from ukraine carried out very powerful coalition work to provide us with as much weaponry as possible, and actually you remember what neheimers told us in the beginning and about the petrivniki that you don't have there is no proper infrastructure, there is no trained staff yet, no, no, but thanks to the efforts of all parties on the part of ukraine, we really

managed to press such an important issue that concerns the f-16, we clearly dispelled all the myths that, uh, here somewhere they were walking in the walls, why ukraine at the moment it is not a priority, there is no need or any other things like in 16, on the contrary, they convinced and argued that we should gain an advantage in the sky, then uh, victory will be much faster. that extremely quickly everyone admires how extremely quickly our military e-e master new military equipment of completely different types and how effectively we use all this western weaponry that is provided to ukraine. therefore, it is obvious

that the first priority e-e of all our of meetings there were weapons and airplanes eh and eh no less important an important annual crime they emphasized that immediately after the victory we need to be integrated into nato because this is a key key guarantee of security because otherwise after the victory of russia how long will it take arm herself, she will never give up her plans to occupy ukraine. and actually integration into nato as a key guarantee of security should be the next step after our victory . well, of course, the issue of sanctions and financial aid is no less important, as we emphasized every time because absolutely the entire financial sector is in russia, all the banks of which there are 330, and currently only 23 are under sanctions , all 330 should be under sanctions, there are 300 billion frozen

russian assets in the world, they should be used for the reconstruction of ukraine, these are our key theses with which we are here throughout these days were well, of course, we also raised the issue of deported ukrainian children illegally deported to russia, er, we also raised the issue of reconstruction and other issues when the key priorities were weapons and the financial sector and sanctions actually regarding sanctions in addition to these of frozen russian assets, there are probably still quite a lot of assets that are not frozen, because the russians have almost all countries and some kind of money, some kind of something, uh, in which one, is there some kind of common scheme created, how can you search, how can you determine where exactly this

russian money is, money which belong to the russian oligarchs, and those who finance the war in ukraine and then freeze them so that you can in the future, is there the same scheme of transferring this money for the reconstruction and restoration of ukraine, and the actual problem is that even those companies that are already or natural persons or legal ones that are already under sanctions, they find various workarounds, unfortunately, there are such cases and they avoid these sanctions, we also talked about this, and here it is very important that ukraine , the european union and the united states coordinate their activities and we this was emphasized in order that well, for example, if the e-market of some specific sector of the economy is sanctioned, in order for

these sanctions to really be effective, it is necessary that both ukraine and the european union impose sanctions in a coordinated manner, and the united states of america and then it will be much more difficult for russian companies to circumvent these sanctions for private and private legal entities . similarly, what you say about the reconstruction . of course, russia is the first subject who has to pay for all the damage it has done. in ukraine, and these theses always sound like they sounded here in washington and they sound during meetings in the european union with our colleagues. it is obvious that all partners promise to help rebuild ukraine, but one of

the key arguments from us is that not in the first it is the turn of the taxpayers of europe or the united states that they have to pay from their own pockets, and russia itself, and that is why active work is currently being done to coordinate with partners to create a large working group of leading international lawyers to develop a legal mechanism so that these funds can be was to be used for the reconstruction of ukraine . because in reality there have been no such precedents yet, and if with private assets of certain legal entities or russian oligarchs it is easier and we know that there are already certain precedents, then with sovereign assets everything it is much more difficult and, accordingly, all those states that have these frozen assets and are ready to help in this direction, they

need to introduce changes in their legislation in their countries so that these funds can be transferred to the reconstruction of ukraine, the work is difficult, but the work is being done, and we from our side as parliamentarians and government officials, we promote these theses, these narratives and help other countries to make the right decisions in favor of ukraine, in which the cabinet talks about the international community so that they dared to take this unprecedented step, that is, to freeze, they froze, but we understand that the financial supplies to us will not be endless. yes, and russia deliberately destroyed many objects of our civil infrastructure there, energy and not only. that is, billions and billions of dollars or euros well, accordingly, it would be quite

logical not for us to negotiate with the international monetary fund there regarding this or that program, well, we hope it will benefit our economy, there are internal political situations well, but we deserve these funds yes, not even within the scope of re parations, but current compensation, you know there , i don’t know, compensation for current repairs, well , it’s quite normal, you say everything absolutely correctly, and your question is where to knock, which door to knock on, everyone’s role is very important here ukrainians, each at their own level, should promote the interests of ukraine, and in fact , during the last year, we can observe a total ukrainization in the world. the public to the public er parliamentarians to parliamentarians government officials to government officials the president to the presidents and actually

this is how it should happen so that at absolutely all levels the issue of ukraine was heard, you know exactly on the day when the lend-lease issue was voted on. and we and our colleagues with our delegation gathered votes in the congress and had the opportunity to talk with many congressmen. they were afraid that the issue of ukraine would disappear from the airwaves. because in fact, in order for this help to be permanent , we must always be present here, they must hear about us , and the whole world must understand what

terrible crimes russia is committing in ukraine, and i was pleased i am surprised that even today, it has been more than a year since the war, and the issue of ukraine is still present here, there are ukrainian flags in many places, and in the style of broadcasts, every day they show news related to ukraine, so it is not on the same scale as it was at the beginning of a full-scale invasion but nevertheless, the issue of ukraine is still there when talking to congressmen and senators they always ask us questions, please give us more arguments on how to explain to our voters why we should support ukraine , we explain absolutely clearly that we are protecting not only the territorial integrity of ukraine and d- democratic values ​​of the democratic world halyna vasylchenko, people's deputy of ukraine

, member of the verkhovna rada committee on finance, tax and customs policy , was currently in the washington region, from where she turned on, we are waiting for her at home and we are also waiting for e-e sanctions and schemes for how to use frozen russian money to rebuild our country, and now meet our colleague anna eva melnyk with the latest selection of news colleagues. thank you for your work , the news team continues to work and begins with the fact that france is ready to become one of the guarantors of security for our country france is ready to become one of the guarantors of security for