[000:00:00;00] affairs church affairs religious oleksandr drabynko metropolitan of the orthodox church of ukraine in touch with us glory to ukraine glory to jesus christ god-loving god-loving lord we welcome you on the tv channel of the connection of the peaceful sky and congratulate you on the upcoming feast of the ascension of the lord we thank the orthodox church of ukraine a wise decision we move on the new julian calendar is possible. i would like everyone to switch to the gregorian calendar. well, but for now, the new julian calendar, as leonid makarovich told the light and memory, small steps between drops, although this step is extremely

serious mr. oleksandr vladikorot, please tell me the specifics of yesterday's and today's cathedrals, well, i want to first note that there is actually no difference today between the vegetarian new julian calendar, they currently coincide and will coincide for at least 100 years, so that on ours, as they say, the age of e- this will be enough to not be particularly biased towards these two calendars . the roman catholic church lives according to the gregorian calendar. we have finally joined the community of orthodox churches. who celebrate holidays and have forgotten the official calendar, the new lviv calendar, which is, of course , astronomically much more accurate than the julian calendar , or as we call it, the old style that we used and will use for the first of september, the specifics of today cathedral yes, i was a direct participant of this cathedral and actually, everyone accepted this initiative with great pleasure she

was born long enough ago and conversations were held well, before every christmas, we didn't talk like that about christmas every year, how about which calendar to celebrate this christmas, whether it is january 7 or december 25, well, finally, how would all these perpetias reach their peak? well , especially at the present time, when we have a lot of uh and workers and forced migrants who are forced to hide, er, fleeing from the war in europe. and europe, as you know, celebrates according to the gregorian calendar and according to me, the julian calendar. that is, these are also weekends. these are holidays for children and vacations for adults and er, this er- this is one of the factors of that called to more or less normalize the time of celebration e for forced migrants well, accordingly, in itself, it is the style of what is happening with the military aggression

of the russian federation . for us, for ukrainians, it is superfluous because it is connected with this russian peace with the action of the russian peace preached by patriarch kirill, and the russian church is one of the cogs of that machine, which is called with the blessing of kirill gundyaev to knock out ukrainians, i.e., even this longing for due to the calendar, such questions to the russian church . of the human church, we understand that

there was a position of many parishes, that is , the priests were ready, but we understand that church discipline or something else, that there was additional motivation, and they stopped the relevant processes regarding the transition have already been approved or i do not know some tangible strategy how to help those of your god-loving brothers and sisters in christ to join the canonical church in ukraine to the ukrainian orthodox church, well, this process is going on, i think it will be quite long, because there must be a change of consciousness and this does not happen so quickly, let's take our civil society as an example. this is how we got rid of communist ideology in the verkhovna rada 10 years ago. 20 30 years ago we had an independent state for 20 of them

the communist party, led by simonenko, had almost the largest faction in the verkhovna rada and always influenced the processes that took place in political life, and if we are talking about politics and a party that can be banned, then what can we talk about such a long-standing tolerance for uh russia of a certain to the russian orthodoxy of a certain part of our compatriots , of course, the process is based on the information that was announced by the most blessed metropolitan and epiphany during the time that has passed since the full-scale invasion of the russian federation to ukraine, more than 900 parishes have joined the orthodox church of ukraine, talk about the fact that there should be some unification processes with the greek catholics, we do not talk about it, because they have their center in rome, we have our own local ukrainian orthodox the church, we can cooperate in different directions, about the fact that there are no unifying initiatives to date , the ukrainian orthodox church, the orthodox church of ukraine today at the cathedral once again

testified that it is ready for dialogue, but unconditional dialogue on equal rights and not the one that was in the resolution of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate last year at the so-called theophany cathedral when the side of the moscow patriarchate does not recognize the priesthood and the episcopate in the orthodox church of ukraine as equal this makes it impossible a priori, which is a declining dialogue . we testified today unanimously that we are ready for fraternal dialogue and for unity in the bosom of the local ukrainian orthodox church . we have a tomos, we have our place in the diptych and here is oleksandr drabynko, metropolitan of the orthodox church of ukraine, in the studio oleg synyutka, people's deputy of ukraine, a truly

historic decision without knowing metropolitan oleksandr is still in touch with us, but if you hear us christ is risen because today is the last day when orthodox christians greet each other that's right because tomorrow on the 40th day of the ascension of the lord, and on sunday we will celebrate the birth of our church of the holy trinity, or green holidays. as the people say , it is very important that all ukrainians enter these holidays united. churches of volodymyr's baptism, the orthodox church of ukraine and the ukrainian greek catholic church. these are indeed churches that represent the ukrainian spiritual core and after which thank you, most reverend vladyka, which was accepted at the cathedral of the orthodox church of ukraine, everything became clear. ukrainians will

celebrate christmas on december 25. those who want to live with cyril these will celebrate together with those who celebrate with moscow, with the kremlin, in fact with those who bless the killing of our people and our soldiers, and i once again want emphasize today, i am not a church person, i am a secular person, very clearly according to the current legislation. once again, i want to emphasize that there is no uoc mp in ukraine. today , the constitutional court gave a clear explanation that there is a russian church in ukraine, an orthodox church led by kyril gundyaev, with its center in the kremlin is our ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine and the ukrainian catholic church, and it is very important that today ukrainians will not share that greek catholics are so orthodox

. so we will all be together already this year to celebrate christmas on december 25, and it is very important that from september 1, because from september 1, it is the new church calendar year from september 1, according to the new yulian or gregorian calendar, we will celebrate all holidays, will there be certain inconveniences? well, i think that , for example, andriy always celebrated on december 13, it will be their first year, it is somewhat unusual to celebrate on november 30. i think that we are capable of new dates because the holiday is on the calendar , we also live in such a time , you know. of the ukrainian spiritual core and this is very important according to the metropolitan of the orthodox church of ukraine oleksandr drabynk, your eminence. please tell me what we will do with easter. because everything is exactly the same in the easter cycle, it is actually three months of the e-e calendar

. that is, it is 25% of the year and this calendar is such that will be different, i.e., what prevented it from approving the transition to the gregorian calendar and from adhering to the same cycle of celebrations with the western world, because it is also true for us it is important that it does not happen that we celebrate christmas with our catholic brothers with the whole world, and easter is still with cyril , we celebrate it not with the cyrils, with christ the savior , we celebrate and celebrate his resurrection eh eh the fact is that the new julian calendar it is just that and it has a basis under it. what makes it different from the vegetarian one is that we still celebrate pascal according to it, as it is called the old style, the old ulyansk is calculated

according to this way, according to such and such formula is celebrated by the whole orthodox world as a form, we can't switch the orthodox church of ukraine separately to the gregorian calendar, because it is the calendar of the roman catholic church, and in order for us to celebrate, we should start celebrating the resurrection of christ's easter together with the roman catholic church there are certain theological and other problems and the solution of which does not lie within the competence of the orthodox church of ukraine, as his beatitude metropolitan epiphanius once said that the keys to the unity of orthodoxy and catholics lie in rome in constantinople to the solution of this problem. that is, we are waiting for the problem between the heads of these two religious structures to be solved and then we will join their joint solution, and there is also information that the 24th or 25th year is possible during this period and this issue

will be solved and it will be like this there is one great unity, if these forecasts are sold, the greek catholic church said that they are going to approach this issue in exactly this context until the 25th year, i cannot say for sure now, but it seems that the celebration of easter coincides with the 24th or the 25th year of both the orthodox and the roman catholic, as we call them, yes , this is easter of christ. and this is one of those nuances that is used in order to make this process as painless as possible for many who have attraction to the old calendar. thank you oleg senyuka. i would just like to note that at times someone does not think that now orthodox christians in ukraine will celebrate christmas according to

the catholic calendar. not long ago , the orthodox church in the world celebrates christmas on december 25, and only a few, led by the church under the halo of kirill gundyaev, they held on to january 7, so you should not think that only the catholic church and the orthodox church of ukraine will celebrate december 25. the majority of the orthodox world celebrates christmas itself on december 25, and this year we, together with many of our orthodox brothers all over the world will celebrate christmas on december 25. and what concerns the easter of the lord's resurrection. i think that this is really a question . his eminence absolutely agrees with you really include them in rome and constantinople, and here without a decision from these

two centers of world christianity, we in ukraine will definitely not make a separate decision, well , in any case, knowing the ukrainian national character, they will celebrate twice, well, not everyone , of course. well, but the old new style. thank you , vladyka for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel oleksandr drabynko, metropolitan of the orthodox church of ukraine well, we are moving on. many of our fighters are still imprisoned in the prison camps of the russian federation , they are there in inhumane conditions today after on the day of heroes, we tell the story of one of the soldiers who managed to return home for a year in captivity of torture and attempts to break the ukrainian spirit . volodymyr zhemchugov, otherwise known as the luhansk partisan, as no one knows about the atrocities committed by a bloodthirsty neighbor, a man from the city of krasny luch, in the luhansk region, before was

a businessman and lived in tbilisi for a few years before the start of the war, in 2014 he came to his native luhansk region to visit his mother and was shocked by the events, all administrative buildings were captured by russian security forces, then the husband i clearly understood that he will not return to georgia because it is worth fighting, we, uh, well, we united with the guys with the locals. well, it all started with simple self-defense, no one thought about a big war there, about a partisan movement, it will simply turn out to be the russian peace, the russian peace brought such great banditry and robberies, murders were everywhere on the streets and we united just to protect our families, but then it turned out that we need to protect not only our families, we need to protect places in the region because

the occupation began, the russian army came as volodymyr recalls, the occupation took place according to well, but it all started with propagandists who incited people and imposed their views on them, bribed the top, the occupation authorities took control of the city already in may, then 300 people gathered in the square and elected a new self-proclaimed mayor on behalf of the entire city and later the regular troops of the russian federation arrived with equipment , the russians came immediately, they had weapons and ammunition, and they did not immediately kill my friends who were against me, those who supported me were found there until may there in the anthracites found the same scenario of a hand tied behind the back and a shot in the head. these are the kind of assets who incited the people or where there was no resistance . facebook immediately calculated, enumerated and brutally killed the cells. they did sabotage

, especially at night, so the russians were afraid to leave their places of deployment. everything was going well. until one of the tasks for volodymyr zhemchugov became fatal, i mined the russian power lines that went with russia, but i made a mistake and went in the other direction and not the way i came and entered the tem mary we are from the term of the field and i stepped on the stretching before well i received very serious injuries but did not die and changed then the russians took the russian troops captured the partizan was admitted to the intensive care unit of the luhansk hospital even then it was clear that he had lost both limbs but he could not see with his own eyes guards were placed near him and no one was allowed in, as his wife olena shares , was always in touch with him. but after the tragedy , she lost all

contact with him for a while." answered and confirmed the life information volodymyr was left hanging by a thread due to a catastrophic lack of medicine and improper care, and a strong female partisan did not give up and fought for any information after a long wait. a ray of hope did appear when a video of volodymyr's interrogation appeared on the internet. we saw him e- in that video, when he himself said that i want, i want to make new videos. well, he did not say what he said, he wanted information because he understood that there was no information, that is

, no one knows about him, he is not a partisan, well, who knows about him later, the man went to prison where he spent several months in a jail cell, he was looked after by other prisoners, but the conditions there were terrible in september 2016 , volodymyr was finally returned home in captivity , he spent almost a year with him, another ukrainian was brought who also suffered at the hands of the occupiers, two of them were exchanged for four collaborators, so the first thing the hero of ukraine did was hug his beloved wife. nowadays, he considers it his mission to tell the younger generation about all the atrocities of the russian mercenaries and god gerashchenko oleksandr kuga espresso bila tserkva thank you colleagues for this story to the anniversary of the exit of the defenders of mariupol from azovstal, a procession took place in kyiv, we are waiting for the heroes of mariupol to return home, according to ukrainian intelligence , we know that in a year it was possible

to return 20% of the defenders of azovstal, but at the same time it is still close two thousand people are in enemy captivity, so these people still need to be freed, we just need to return them home , now we will talk about all this with natalia kravtsova, co-founder of the public organization rada dzhujin and mothers of the defenders of ukraine women of steel glory to ukraine ms. natalya good day ms. natalya please tell me in what way and how actively it is possible to return the defenders of azovstaria from captivity, well, at the moment, it was possible to return a fifth of those who left the last one a year ago the fortress of mariupol e-e combine from australia and left there, unfortunately, at the moment, about

two thousand of our fighters, men , women, are still in captivity, and we would really like to hug them all my relatives, but so far this has not happened, but we keep our fingers crossed, we fight, we work, we wait for our relatives to come home . there is no way to communicate, you know , there is none, there is no way or opportunity to communicate with our relatives who are in russian captivity, this is despite

the geneva convention, which guarantees prisoners of war contact with their families. with families, it is very important, because they do not know the condition of their relatives , how their children are growing up, whether they are alive, we relatives also do not know where our relatives are, in which city they are born, we have no connection with them , so all this time you know he this is very uncertain and very painful for all of us, for all of us, communications for our various captives, russia does not allow , unfortunately, or the red cross, the international committee of the red cross, or i, the mission to actually take care of the prisoners as well, to search for them, to find

their places of detention, does what it had to do would and whether these efforts are enough to actually help you find your relatives and return them considering that the international red international committee of the red cross works in the mode of modality, that is, if they have access to any difference to which pre-trial detention center to some colony where ukrainian prisoners of war are located they in fact, they can inform relatives directly, so it is difficult to say in what scope it is .

that the red cross provided information in what condition this person is in, on the other hand, we see that some of the activities of the red cross regarding getting to the place of receiving military prisoners of war, it got rid of there are some cases when they managed to get to the places of detention of ukrainian prisoners of war, but through the neighbors, let's say the nuances of the work of the red cross cross we don't know what colonies were visited visited what number of people were uh what what what what number of people they were able to see therefore it will be very it is important, a very important question and very painful, because the only mediator in military conflicts, as stipulated in the geneva

convention, he turned out to be powerless in this situation, powerless. thank you, ms. natalya , stay in touch with us in our studio. that the international red cross is the organization of the red cross and the red crescent, it was created in order to solve humanitarian cases that cannot be solved, in particular, during a war between themselves the governments of various countries, in particular, and the warring ones, but the current rakhiv does not do enough for the entire leadership, the current red cross may not be able to, and perhaps they somehow try too weakly. well, accordingly, there may be some prospects in your opinion. it is possible to influence these or other international structures that finance the international red cross , yes, who can influence and rotate its leadership, we understand, yes, the one who is not too active. well, instead of him

, people who really cheer for the cause can come. first of all, it is necessary to understand that none of our appeals to putin will yield anything, this creature wants to destroy ukrainians and those ukrainian soldiers who are in the captivity of rashish are just hostages for his black affairs. here, our way out is, first of all, not to talk and not to forget this problem we must support the families of those whose relatives are in captivity, especially the soldiers who were left defending azovstal, but we must also put pressure on the international community on all our partners and on the whole world so that there is pressure on putin and here not only the united states of nato countries, the vatican needs to put pressure on putin, then it is necessary that india, china, brazil , there should not be a single country in the world that

would stand aside from ukrainian prisoners of war - these are our people, these are ours soldiers, that is why it is our business to support those who are on ukrainian territory today, but also to support the families of those who have been found and are in captivity, and secondly , to prevent the ukrainian authorities from distancing themselves from this issue and thirdly, to put pressure on the governments of our partner countries and on any governments so that they put the question to the kremlin, there can be no bullying and the return of ukrainian prisoners of war must take place , the ukrainian side ready to exchange everyone for everyone, and we always talk about it. unfortunately, the cream slows down this matter, therefore, pressure through china, through india, through brazil, through anyone in the world

, through the vatican, must also be caused by putin and naguyev and anyone in order for our prisoners to return home completely and not only, but in the end , is ukrainian diplomacy, ukrainian politicians doing enough , what are the programs and what is still missing to do this, i am asking for a simple word, the answer is literally a little more minutes, i definitely cannot simplify this situation because i understand that we are dealing with some kind of beast in the person of putin. but if our prisoners of war are not at home, then the answer is obvious, it means it is not enough, it means you need to know, by the way, yes mrs. natalya, we would like to ask you for a brief comment of up to one minute, actually. what else can we expect from the ukrainian government, the ukrainian policy of diplomats to help return your loved ones, you know, it is difficult for me

to say because in february i myself was at the ultrasound of other popes and also handed him a letter for mariupolsky the garrison gave him a letter on behalf of our ukrainian women servicemen who are still in captivity and asked very much that he also join this humanitarian mission. in support of ukrainian prisoners of war, she was in kyiv just before the year when our soldiers went out for growing up, uh, the employees of the coordination headquarters for the treatment of prisoners of war went

with us in one column, and i think there are some, well, the authorities use what she can and what she can use in order to get our guys out of captivity what to say about china about brazil i very much agree that it is necessary to find some really common points with them that could agree with you was the last natalya or that's why we have to look for our prisoners of war in all possible ways, all possible points, all possible things, everything that is possible and everything that is not possible in order to extract our soldiers, our prisoners of war. yes, ms. natalya, thank you for being with us for sharing your will. with these considerations and we hope that it will be possible

to free all captured ukrainians as soon as possible, people 's deputy of ukraine well, now we will