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[000:00:00;00] in this there are some, well, the government uses what, well, what it can, those actions that it can take in order to get our boys out of captivity , what to say about china, about brazil. i very much agree that it is necessary to find some really common points with them that could do we agree with you ms. natalya or agree thus for our prisoners of war to search for all possible possible all possible points all possible everything possible and everything as soon as possible in order to extract our military our prisoners of war yes ms. natalya thank you for being with us, for sharing your will, and actually these considerations. and we hope that
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all captured ukrainians will be freed as soon as possible. people 's deputy of ukraine. well, now we will pass the floor to our colleagues. yes, the verdict , serhiy rudenko, let's watch it together. glory to ukraine , this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to all. today , may 24, 455, the day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian invaders , the minister of defense of great britain arrived in kyiv. band wallace and the self-proclaimed president of belarus oleksandr lukashenko went to moscow to meet with putin. the crimean bridge was closed this morning by a column of smoke above it, according to the russian occupiers . meanwhile, the russian occupiers are conducting training there and continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning
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of may 24 russia has already lost 204,000,760 people in ukraine in just the last day, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 400 orks with the beginning of a big war, the russians have already lost 3,792 tanks, 7,424 armored fighting vehicles, 3,339 in ukraine of artillery systems 570 rocket salvo systems 327 air defense means 309 aircraft 296 helicopters 6146 units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 2015 cruise missiles 2081 drones 440 units of special equipment belorodshchyna is on fire ukrainian putin again tells his story of the emergence of ukraine lukashenko flaunts his health well, of course before visiting moscow before meeting with putin, because god
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knows what might happen in the kremlin , we are talking about this and other things today with our guest - this politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009, head of the russian research center with volodymyr ogrysko , we are in touch with you, volodymyr, good day, good health, thank you for joining our broadcast, i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, good health to you and to all our dear viewers, let's start with good news from the crimean bridge, because today it didn't smoke and the russian occupiers say that they are conducting training there . this is what this beauty looks like on the crimean bridge, we will still hope that not only are they training, but they really have problems with the crimean bridge, but, against the background of what is happening in belograd region, there are naturally many questions about the participation
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of russian citizens in, i would say , the national liberation struggle or the liberation struggle on the territory of the russian federation. we know that on may 22 , representatives of the freedom of russia organization and the russian volunteer corps from belohorod entered the territory of this region. well , they burned down the fsb building there. ministry of internal affairs, deputy chairman of the council dmitry medvedev of the security of the russian federation came out to comment on this, well, before we analyze this situation , let's hear medvedev, this talking head of putin . he doesn't deal with them, they just need to be destroyed like a rat and not even taken
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prisoner, mr. volodymyr. so, such a short verdict. i would say so medvedev, what do you say about this situation ? when you did not enter the territory of the ukrainian state, is this a special operation, an informational psychological special operation, how do you perceive it, i perceive it as a very uh-uh smart tactic of preparing or starting our uh-uh this long-awaited contour offensive or offensive operation and i uh-uh although i i am not a military expert, of course, but i bow my head to the creativity of our military leaders who do things that are absolutely fantastic in terms of their significance and their impact, including, of course,
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on the psyche, on the mental state, we have some problems with communication, we are waiting for volodymyr ogryzka to be switched on our air, meanwhile, the governor of the belohorod region of the russian federation, vyacheslav glatkov, said that a subversive intelligence group entered the territory of the graivoronsk district , colonel general lapin , a hero of russia and a war criminal, came to belohorod region in person military operation in the belgorod region, social networks counted 15 people
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running after him, let's look forward, forward, overtake the people, oleksandr lapin, this is the general who commanded russian groups when the great war began in ukraine shouts for the motherland well, it is not enough for him to shout for the family for stalin or for the family for putin and to note that all this is happening in the territory of the belgorod region, it is not in ukraine, it is not in the donbas, it is not in the kherson region. this is already in russia, and the russian volunteer corps
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, as you know, took responsibility for this action and they calmly drove into the territory of the belgorod region, drove through several districts . in general, russian propaganda says that this is about a ukrainian subversive intelligence group, well, a subversive intelligence group does not come by vehicle, and if saboteurs enter the territory of a neighboring country , of course, of course, they do it quietly and constantly, and this was a demonstrative demonstration event in the territory of the belohorod region, we have it again on the communication of volodymyr hrysko - mr. volodymyr , we have something with the communication, please . i congratulate you once again, mr. serhiy. i continue my opinion. you know that i am not a military expert. it's understandable, but i take my hat off to the er creativity of our er military leaders who do this. well, it seems to me so
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beautiful and so competent and so disarming for this manual that now doesn't know what to do and er, well, they rush from one, as they say, into flames' i'm more than that. it's an excellent preparation for the long-awaited offensive or counteroffensive. i think that everything is really going according to our ukrainian plan here, and i'll tell you frankly that i was most pleased by one intercepted conversation of people who e live does it seem to me or to gaivoron? is it somewhere near it, by the way? let's even pay attention to the name gaivoron, well, from which side, uh, there is something russian, uh, the same thing . by the way, when we say belhorod, we make a mistake because it's belhorod
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uh, and that's why it's a ukrainian name. so i think that we need to gradually get used to the correct names of uh, ukrainian uh, well, although historical, but still ukrainian, uh those who managed to escape somewhere already say yes, you are not coming back. now we will not be under russia, but under this is actually ukraine. it seems to me to be a very serious indicator of the mood of people who, in my opinion, this russia is already like a bone in their throat and they are ready to go under a democratic ukraine because they know that there is what a person needs here what is called human rights what is called normal development what is called what is called that you are a human being and not once oh, it seems to me that the key in this is the consequences of what happened these few days
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in the belgorod region, but i think this is really only the beginning because such russia's attacks in fact there will be more and more yesterday vladimir putin presented awards in the kremlin . i don't know if crimea can be improvised. the kremlin was there and he started talking again about the nine years that donbas was bombed. they mentioned some children's doctor from donbas. spoke about the fact that the so-called special military operation is an attempt to stop the war waged by our enemies, he said how he said it and what he said, let's hear the doctor from donbass, the children's doctor said that for nine years donbass
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has been attacking the people there live for nine years against these people, our enemy, the enemy of our people, is waging war there often . the border of the historic russian state. well , they didn't stop being our people because of this . all this rhetoric is so very difficult, and the main thesis is that we are waging war so that there will be no war. well, it seems to me that this someone has already voiced the thesis, it seems to me that medvedev said that we will introduce a war in ukraine in order to prevent the third world war. well, this kind of rhetoric
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, vladimir, indicates putin's mental health or ill health, or is he just playing catch well, look at serhii. this is a traditional practice of the muscovites and it goes back to history. it is not an invention of today , when they start some certain events from a historical date that is favorable for them . here he is now saying that we started sfo er in order to stop the war and yes, you hear, you start with yours from february 22 , 2022, and not from the annexation of crimea, when an absolutely terrorist act took place, which was connected with the seizure of the territory of an independent state why don't you talk about it, and then he starts talking about some
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kind of coup d'état, about some other, as they say, there is only one fool in galicia and the like, that is, you understand , this is not something that can be seriously analyzed , just take it as examples of such absolutely inadequate approach to assessments which there is uh, actually, well, look, recently there was another regular uh, well, as they say, well , i can’t even choose uh, a normal word, episode . brought him a map to the tsar and the main goal was to show that there is no ukraine on this map, but you understand this moscow stupidity. i'm sorry for this, for this word, it already crosses all possible limits because they wanted
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to show that there is no ukraine, but they showed that there is no russia because the same star rating will show, well, look, here i am the polish-lithuanian commonwealth, here is the country of the cossacks, and here is muscovy, so that's what we're talking about, that there is no russia there, because there is muscovy, and that's all, we have this fragment, let's show it to our viewers maybe they didn't see it, because it's a very good episode, a copy of the map of the 17th-17th century was found, drawn up by a woman, 14 volnost . common things, too, these lands simply included all 100
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reasons, and then they were asked to join the moscow church, even then, after the october revolution , all kinds of quasi-state formations began to form , the soviet waltz, the automaton of the soviet ukraine , well, uh, that is, kyivan rus was in moscow , there was nothing in ukraine, but there was nothing in ukraine in general well, you see what these people are getting to, which, which, well, i don’t take putin into account here , it’s really a chronicle, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, i heard uh, about the needle of the investment court, but that was 20 years ago, quite a long time ago favorable reviews as before a professional lawyer is a person who thinks soberly well, but it was still somewhere in the days of the seventh, eighth, ninth years, eh, and here we see the transformation of even those who, well , probably have some kind of excuse the word flap in their head
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, what do they come to he he says that we found a copy of the map here. so listen, dear friend, open the internet and in 10 minutes you will receive maps where it is written that there is no russia, that there is russia, but there is no rush, there is no such name in medieval maps, there is the name of muscovy, but now it is played out as something something that confirms putin's thesis that ukraine was created by volodymyrovych legin . well, you see, you can't seriously comment on it here, because again, the addressee is the populace of zaporizhia, which will eat everything , which, uh, has recently reached a fever pitch my friends sent me some uh years of uh thin women who sing how they want to marry putin and it's serious, they spread it like why
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you should, what you should imitate and what you should want well, what can you say about such people well there is no need for extra words here, the only thing that needs to be said is that if they look at these maps like this and talk about the fact that ukraine did not exist, then they now have to admit that ukraine exists, and it hurts them very much 200,000 people who died during the great war at the beginning of the great war between russia and ukraine, uh, up to a million wounded, and uh, ukraine is holding its own with dignity now, and there is no such talk about that, and ukraine has no chance at all. there was no ukraine. ukraine was invented by volodymyr ilyich, lenin, putin is very reminiscent of stalin with his pseudo-historical by some accounts, it didn't just happen now, because he was the last one there
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for three or three or four years to enroll and write these articles. well , you remember how he had several publications there before the big offensive, well, to the pseudo-scientific opinion of the russian federation, well, you know, mr. sergius, i want to and i don’t want to quote the criminal prigozhin, but he wrote very correct words today about what if russia wants to survive, well , because it is at war with a non-existent country , it must close itself off from this world and become the north korea to return all my sons and daughters of the elite to russia, give them weapons, then start hiding them, and then it will be fair , but the thing is that ukraine stands up and beats russia , he just
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says it publicly without hiding and talks about the fact that the walk did not happen and russia is now actually faced with the choice of whether to survive or collapse. this is an assessment from the inside, and i think that in this case it is absolutely fair, although it comes, i repeat once again, from a war criminal, eh, well, his place was previously on the gallows, and now he is behind bars with a life sentence imprisonment well, regarding adequacy or whether putin is ready to go there to the end in the russo-ukrainian war and in the war. how he thinks of russia with the west was quite revealing yesterday when these state awards were handed out on behalf of the master of the kremlin - it is the fact that he sat in isolation for a week, a cosmonaut, a test hero russia, before receiving the award from the hands of the russian dictator
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, said let's see navitskyi oleg viktorevich, hero of the russian federation , cosmonaut instructor from the questioner of the scientific research test center for the training of cosmonauts named after gagarin and look, we have been silent for a week. but lvovych wants to say a big thank you for such a high-level work center, but he is still letting all people through the isolation. he is afraid of getting sick today, by the way. they are meeting with lukashenka. the meeting is scheduled today and tomorrow. the self-proclaimed president of belarus told his subordinates or those who serve him about the fact that everyone is talking
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about him, that he is sick, but this is not true, and he said that everyone around him will suffer with him for a long time , let's see. and here i think that i'm dying got together, calm down, calm down, it’s not more than enough to talk about messengers and telegram, what kind of messages do i have? and where are the viruses or what was there? there were viruses on the ceramic . it’s being treated for three days. subbotniki, whatever you want, push me to the square. we hugged you there with these girls. after that, we had a lot of fun. everything has accumulated, so you guys are dying and you have a long time. well, i think that he
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said that in vain before the meeting with putin. that he is not going to die. and if it is serious, mr. volodymyr, why do they meet so often, isn't it time for them to live together? because it seems that they discuss something almost every week, and it is not clear that because the belarusian economy is not that big , there is still some economic issues to be discussed from russia. cooperation or something else, what does putin want from him, my version is my version, and how primitively simple is this all necessary in order to show at least some international, pseudo-international in quotes , activities that are happening around you see, from china's submission, there were seven or eight presidents who came to the competition, well, they had their number, really. then, after they left, they went to negotiate with china about what they don't
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need in russia. well, that's it. that's it. the next topic that was not mentioned on television in russia and now we need something again to make something spin, well, you understand, uh, uh, uh , putin's foreign policy isolation, it's already becoming simple, well , you know, it's flashy, it catches the eye , you can't help but say something about it well because look at against the background of what is happening in ukrainian, let's say, world relations , and it's not only relations with the west. so on and so on, that is, you understand. by the way, i see how they are just maddened by the fact that ukraine does not disappear from the world's radars, but on the contrary becomes an even
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bigger factor, and against this background, this kind of complete zero is a complete failure of the kremlin - it's just it becomes, well, no, not impossible, but now they are preparing there for july, in july, or some kind of summit , or russia, africa, they collect gasoline from russia, and those african ambassadors are pumped up with ideas that we will pay you everything , let's do it, but i think it will change in a big fix, because no one, even an arab from an african country, will want to, er, excuse me, to smear on this swamp er and come and show that they are with the dictator, er, that's why all possible, impossible, er institutions are made for so that at least something demonstrate this something and it will happen now lukashenko with what is possible with two or three
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trembling diapers and it depends on putin and nothing more than that everything here seems to me to be more or less easy to read by the way, you mentioned about where russia is looking for support and from whom it is looking for support. yesterday, the already mentioned deputy head of the security council of the russian federation, dmitry medvedev, flew to laos, that is, to a country that, well, definitely not at the level of russia, not just in the image of laos , but, well, it is meant in terms of power for that what are the results of this visit that can be obtained from this laos, but this is the meeting of the big seven plus ukraine before that , the meeting of the league of arab states itself is
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evidence that ukraine is an important partner and an important interlocutor for these countries and for the league of arab states is also for the big seven, because we remember that until 2014 there was a format of the big seven plus russia. in russia, it was called the big eight, but there was never an eight there, and the seven was plus putin. after the current situation, there will be no war. not to mention 7 + 1. and in general, in the 20 most powerful countries, because there are also african countries and brazil and india, they reach out to russia because they still think that russia is one of the 20 largest countries in the world, which affects and has an influence, mr. sergey, regarding the visit of this well, how to call him
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delicate, i don’t even know the character who is constantly in a state of alcohol, drug , i can say what i think is going on there about uh about a simple thing uh laos still has remnants of uh soviet equipment which people supplied soviet, then russian, and will continue to supply for the last decades, and it seems to me that the main goal now is to collect these remains , let them be some, let them be in parts . what is it? when the old tanks are removed from the old tanks and, as it were, they are converted into new ones, this is already evidence that the situation is critical for the russian army, so i think that it is about these things and relatively
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your question, sir, about whether it will remain russia in the 20s i think that no er and er, well, not even because er, it has a er percentage somewhere between er one comma zero one comma 3 1 comedian of the world gdp now i i think that it will fall by half after all the sanctions work and work. and as we can see, they have an effect , although it is delayed, but the last figure shows that the russians are 30%. now they have reduced their expenses. well, if expenses are reduced , then the income of the economy is also reduced. will continue and so it will go on increasing therefore, it is obvious that from the economic indicators, no twenties of russia will celebrate
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anymore, but the question is that it will not be in the 20s because it will be scattered. and this is, it seems to me , the most important conclusion to which we should accustom our dear western partners, there will be no such russia if there is one left. well, that's another question , but we will have to have completely different conversations with it, and conversations in the language of multi-languages, because that's what happened before on february 24, 2022, there was an incentive for aggression in russia, after that, finally , the west must conclude that they were wrong, that they need to change their approaches , they need to make tough decisions about what will remain of this so-called russian federation. and then we will begin really change the world until this
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happens, it will be falling in a circle, mr. volodymyr, let's go back to lukashenka, one piece

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