[000:00:00;00] they look at ukraine, is it a nation that is hard-working, that is not looking for help for the first time, and is looking for a job to provide for itself and a child or children, that's why we should have many people who are leaders of opinions who go beyond the borders of our state, that's artists too you can't to reject former politicians, for example, yes and again, authorities in certain spheres, military, economic, as you said there and it and so on, they must all be involved in this activity, and it is you. well , this is a question not only about one person, about the government, i am waiting for our future i believe that this resource must be used to the full extent. i understand that it should be used in this way. but is there a route list or is there already a mechanism

, a scheme, a concept, anything, how to work with these people because they are there on the ground, uh, maybe someone is working somehow in her environment, and someone may be just trying to survive, because if it is, say, a mother with three small children, then well, just never think how she can still help ukraine because she is probably just barely making ends meet in this more than a year of time that is, whether there is such a source here in ukraine, some such command post that figured out what to do, how to do it, and now it is starting to involve all these people. well, first of all, again, as we said, this is about the leaders in opinion. yes, not only about ordinary ukrainians, but their there are enough people who come and go from there, that is, these volunteers and that's all, and we have to work with it. he is a simple average citizen , he is just an example of ukraine

. therefore, it should be a very serious program of work. an asset that is outside the bounds of what is effective, it is calculated that it can give us any positive result, we must use it because we know how mykola davydyuk is my pretty good friend . he takes by force and we take by horizontal connections, and this is our strength and we can sell it conditionally to europe because this is exactly the formula. it showed that it is possible to survive when the people are also involved in all the processes in the country. i would also like oleg i returned to the question of ramshtein, i understand what the meeting can also be called formal and that is, a lot of things have already been decided, a lot of things may be known to the elite circles, but still they always officially declare that, for example, after the third ramstein, the rocket

systems of salvo fire, their relief option, were other weapons, after the seventh ramstein, anti-aircraft defense was strengthened, projectiles barreled artillery, what will happen after the 12th rammstein, er, everyone from rammstein . i think it is historical, but the current rammstein already shows that our partners are moving from tactical solutions to strategic goals, that is, yes . on this rammstein basis, it will be projectiles, the technique will be worked out, issues related to aircraft. we will not hear it and it is very cool that we will learn a lot when it appears on the battlefield , so i believe that it will also be breakthrough, but not media breakthrough, i really want us

ukrainians to add rammstein's results to reports from the front and then we understand that rammstein worked, but now i emphasize again that rammstein is moving into a more strategic dimension and this is very, very correct, because this is how we can fight such a powerful monster state as russia at the very end, i want to ask your forecasts for the last 15 months. many countries that were skeptical about ukraine have changed their minds there. military diplomats still decided to help us. japan, which opposes despite its pacifist system and despite its views, israel also helps us in every possible way. although it does not give weapons there now, but on the other hand

it helps with medicine, which next country will surprise us , maybe several countries and in which field i am sure that there are a lot of countries that surprise us, but we do not know about this, your predictions, who will be next , to be honest, i would like to be transferred somewhere from latin america and even further, you understand that we went beyond the limits, it is understandable, maybe some american countries, because ukraine also helped at one time, but this club suits me even now, i know that i support the fact that those who do not help us, that they observe active neutrality, this is also very important and this can also surprise in this sense, some countries that will not help russia may surprise us very much and this will also be a concrete result of our diplomacy . of course, thank you for your answers, thank you for

analyzing the situation, for an interesting conversation with us. oleg lisny, vice president of the analytical center, politician . and we go further and have this is what is under the bullets a few meters from the enemy . to our khrystyna parubiy, let's watch it together, she saves paratroopers in the bahmut under bullets a few hundred meters from the enemy, a combat medic olga signed a contract in the army before the start of a full-scale invasion, although she is a medic by education, but she decided that her help will be more needed at the front, when you go on combat missions, you begin to understand why they start teaching you that way, my task

is first of all to stop the bleeding, to choose who i will be the first to evacuate. that there is no and it can be like this more often, you just like that advice, so at once a few should be taken away a lot in the work of a combatant to urinate during hostilities, because civilian medicine differs from combat conditions to war in in my free time i loved the mountains, extreme sports, i explored caves, and my husband and i had our own business. i wanted to go to war in 2014, but then i gave birth to a son and could not go . the paratrooper training center is already there and we were already there after three months, the war already caught everyone who comes to the 80th brigade, we must necessarily go through a three-month course for a young fighter, he must pass his paratroopers there, where there is parachuting,

military training, and that's how it turned out that my unit was in the direction of mykolaiv. and i was in zhytomyr, there were no such battles there. well, they shot just the same there, and then from zhytomyr they took me to their boys. we were near kryvyi rih, so the position, at first, the combat zone fell into a small village in donetsk region, and for the first time i came across a large number of wounded people . i heard olya shouting , "i have to run." there was a moment is it from the stick? i just turned off all emotions, put him in the dugout and started to wind him, and

he went to the next evacuation point. also in bakhmut, these were the first urban battles for a woman when the enemy was everywhere and soldiers had to be rescued several hundred meters from the enemy , bullet wounds were most often found from every window, snipers were sitting, machine gunners were flying under with artillery shelling, that's why we leave with a betor, the guys pull me to the armored personnel carrier or there he wants to use it, or we run into some hangar somewhere and they do all this , and then it's just that these guys had such a day or that we just drove here and there and there all day long here from the position to 100 points from the position available olga admits that the war hardened her and changed her for the better, because during the hostilities she became calmer, now

she gives all her strength for our victory and the salvation of our brothers who are already at war became relatives, we all started to value life very much, every minute, every sunny pebble, and in work, well, in work, life is the most important thing here, it is life, life, the boys with whom i live and the woman wants to meet the victory over the enemy together with her brother, meanwhile, at home, her two sons, a man, are waiting for her he serves in another brigade nearby, sometimes they even manage to meet, and while they remain in the army, he dreams of traveling and conquering everest. khrystyna parubiy , espresso tv channel. medics and volunteers will return alive and safe, and the captives will also be able to be brought home, as happened today with other

boys and girls who were freed, 106 people, let me remind you and most of them were previously considered missing - these are the soldiers who worked in the bakhmut direction. now we join ivan in the conversation kyrychev expert defense-express mr. ivan glory to ukraine good day heroes glory olena let's start zbahmut and some strange things are happening there, there are already reports about something like at least prigozhin declares this and some russian sources confirm that fire fighters are starting to leave the city somewhere. maybe you have a little more detailed information and share it with us. well, some kind of third-party information from some closed sources that could describe the whole situation in some additional way , but i don’t even have the situation on the basis of data from open sources

, we can make the following assumptions, even if the occupiers declared for themselves that they had captured bakhmut and managed to catch him there somehow in a communist way to rename our troops in the city, they still remain here, that is. let it be, even if it is a small part of the area, approximately 5%, in the area of ​​the so-called plane that is still under the control of our troops, that is why, in fact, be afraid. an element of the defensive operation around bakhmut, which includes, in particular, strikes against russian troops on their flanks. the statistical situation when in the bakhmut region in a foreign country nothing is happening, they can engage in occupation plans there, in fact , there is still a rather dynamic battle going on there, in which the local activists have the armed forces of ukraine and , accordingly

, all kinds of people there. to keep this personnel backbone of the pvk so that you can keep some political influence at the same time. they can have entire cities, respectively, at least partially withdraw their units save save tell me - the most combat-capable part he can go for it all the more so even if you take to characterize russian swimsuits in general they tell him that there are two types of infantry well, what is there first let's say yes element is the so-called one-time infantry well which one, respectively prepare with a short cycle of training and there are relatively speaking elite specialties for which they spend maybe even months of training, snipers , er, operators of anti-tank systems , operators of automatic grenade launchers, ribo speaking of everything that concerns some kind of complex weaponry, well, of course, the command staff is also considered to be a kind of elite there, which must be trained and protected for a long time, accordingly , at least some such elite part of its

soldiers, beauties, i can try to lead from bakhmut, but the main mass of troops well, he can leave his one-time ones there and the battle for bakhmut is still going on as long as they don't make a separate announcement about it. the enemy replaced wagner's units with the military armed forces of the russian federation, although, as you say, and actual sources confirm that the wagnerites still remain there, in your opinion, that could change the balance of forces and, in general , change the situation in bakhmut in the vicinity, is it a human factor or is it possible some kind of weapon could significantly mix all this up, change it to our usual one, on the contrary, first of all, the human factor is at play here, well, a note, conditionally, the human

factor, because um, so, from various sources, fetishes have already sounded like that, what now of the armed forces of ukraine in this area to take the occupiers of the tactical encirclement, create a kind of fire bag for them, well, there they are in the ruins of this city, which they themselves made there and destroy them, so that further, if we take here to the second stage, the implementation of this plan, that is, some weapons to destroy well, in principle, who would be needed to perform this task, well, it is difficult to say . although if you remember that there is the only publicly known case of the use of these american guided air bombs, it was recorded by bahmut and well, it is possible as many of those american-guided aerial bombs as possible for our aviation, i wouldn’t mind it, especially since well, if the occupiers can afford to use such flying artillery, then why not give the armed forces of ukraine as a whole such additional flying artillery as well, but i’ll repeat , let’s say

so what to change the situation in this cell in our favor, it primarily depends on the news that the customers were taken there, the tactical encirclement. moreover, let 's fix this if and when this instead of the tactical encirclement of the russian troops in bakhmut, it will be implemented, it will be only the second such operation of the armed forces, and it is likely to be a large-scale operation against the russian federation, because the previous operation was when the russians were successfully taken in the area of ​​bakhmut. 36 kamikaze drones flew over ukraine tonight, and somehow, uncharacteristically for the last time, they were concentrated not as usual en masse in the capital in the south, but

more in the west of all of them, our glorious air defense forces destroyed, neutralized , why? why exactly the west, what could they have aimed at, what could they have searched for, and it looks like this is a new supply of weapons, a new supply of drones from the east. even iranian sources have already admitted that they began to receive russian su-35 se fighters, these are aircraft that were manufactured under an unrealized egyptian expert contract, clearly worse than even these standard 135s from the composition of the russian defense forces federations, that's why the russians decided to blacken them according to the principle, god, i don't care, well, that is, the russians gave the iranians these planes that they don't need, well, they supply them with guarantees , oh, oh, shehety, as for what looks like non-standard, in fact, unfortunately, it 's worth something

it would be expected that the russians would at least try to finish off m.m. open sources if somewhere the sbu reports that somewhere in some region special service employees kidnapped another russian spy who was spying on critical infrastructure and tried to give some instructions to the russian occupiers. well, then you should wait for shelling there and just recently it was reported that a similar spy was caught in the chernivtsi region, what exactly the russians could search there . well, it is obvious that the russian command thinks , let's say, choosing this way and its picture of the world that we have. almost all military personnel carry heavy goods exclusively the railway, respectively, they could aim at objects and the heating of the energy infrastructure, which in particular feed the railway, try at the same time to get the transport infrastructure itself. well, hmm , if possible, try to get some military objects, well, very

fortunately, this is their plan what do the air symbols say, for example, it was not implemented, and the maximum amount of damage was there today. the attack was able to cause it, and it damaged several houses in the countryside along the power lines in bukovina. but why were they able to pass? well, it's obvious that by applying the routes for these planes of their shells to shahin, the russians , for one thing, try to choose the most desolate routes where these chess pieces are, where it will be difficult to detect them either by means of radar or ... well what about the acoustic method, well, by ear, and accordingly, the russian agency can at least work on this one to try to pave the way like this well, because hmm well, even if these chess pieces look primitive , in fact, there is a rather complicated prosecutor's office management, which would allow you to fly to the declared range of 900 km, but whether these solid-fuel accelerators add some

range, it is still unknown, accordingly , some successes or, let’s say, certain improvements that relate to strikes on ukraine by the russians in the first place their priority is given not only to the work of the agency, which transmits certain necessary data, but secondly to this weaponry, which they are trying to attack, such as the new aid package from finland for 109 million euros, which contains anti-aircraft weapons and ammunition the finns don't say anything about that, and the ukrainians, in the end, also about the terms of delivery, where and when, it is clear. for the reasons that you are not flying here again now, the shaheds, where will they use or are they already using this weapon in what operations, what will it give us , well, taking into account that what is the finnish side that ours are in no hurry to declare the actual

volume of supplies that they are planning to supply in the territory, it is difficult to say where specifically it can be applied, but if you make assumptions , then it is worth pointing out two things, well, first of all , finland has 20 battery complexes due to and here it may well be that finland sold us, for example, missiles, and they have 120, well, this is my personal assumption, which has not yet been confirmed, another assumption that can be based on data from the analysts of the orex portal. installations for the soviet complexes of letters and probably some stock of anti-aircraft rockets standard for these complexes and here is even a good question that it would be better if finland, despite the general situation with a shortage of anti-aircraft rackets of the soviet model, would be better suddenly the final was still given to us by the same sets of letters well, because if even western anti-aircraft guns are, let’s say , reproductions of weapons for us now and we have different sources

of supply, then still on the soviet anti-aircraft missiles well, and launchers are such, this is such a resource that runs out, if finland raptor really helped us with this soviet-style anti-aircraft missile, it would be very good news. hmm. we hope for good news, and if we thought about south korea for a long time, whether we wanted to or not, but we still transferred it, it is about hundreds thousands of artillery shells, in your opinion, this is a large number. if we are talking about the current hostilities and the counteroffensive, is it necessary or is it a stupid question? and the real question is that there are never too many weapons, this is about us, you know, there are never too many weapons, this question is not only about us you know i personally really like this historical example that during the first world war , one of the operations of the germans required almost 4

million shells in a few hours. this is despite the fact that if the russians last year fired from 12 million projectiles, projectiles in general for a year ago, of course, there is never much here, the question is thank god that south korea managed to keep the surplus weapons it has in various ways in order to build such a configuration if south korea is really afraid of what if provoked there russia and it can attack north korea, start a war on the korean peninsula, then the best way to weaken russia and prevent a war on the korean peninsula is to weaken russia, because how to pass the armed forces, respectively, how can we pass further here, such a hybrid option could be fully realized, which event was written about? back in march, in april , the americans allegedly offered to lease half a million shells to the koreans. first, please give us the shells - you already know how to use them . well, it is somehow paradoxical, of course.

it sounds like you should give the launcher. well, in the form of 150 for rent . well, it is clear what will happen to them, then they will be delivered to ukraine, they will be shot down, and new ones must be produced, and half a million shells, by the way, do you know this somewhere as the equivalent of the 23-25 of monthly production from the us industry now ago. by the way, if you measure with such a valence that how many 155 mm projectiles can be produced in the americans now, then it is possible that the southern country gave a lot and for which america will also give it its corresponding bonuses. and by the way, it is possible there remove any question, are they suitable for south korean projectiles, well, in general , south korea uses standard 155 mm caliber tensioners, the main artillery installation of the south korean army is the american m-109. well, there are also local ukrainian ones copies well, it actually happened here that korea is now actively selling exports of its sauka 9, which poland and the baltic countries in particular are actively buying there. well, accordingly, in some ways, even in south korea

, the old ones are becoming somewhere. i am in the south korean stories, which were clearly designed and disguised as american ones, they will arrive to us. well, in fact, you may even be just reinforcements for this counteroffensive, because, by the way, if we talk about the pace of deliveries, then when the logistics command of the us army at the beginning of may reported on their gains for the previous two weeks, it turned out to be an interesting description, they wrote so that in two weeks they were able to deliver europe, including allies in ukraine, and 6 million shells, even if the american analysts were wrong and missed, you know. million projectiles and 600,000 projectiles. well, in exactly two weeks , it is a very significant logistical task to deliver such a quantity of ammunition . in the case of south korea and the projectiles , how quickly can they get to us

? there may be various nice surprises. do you think it was written by an american? is it like the three billions that were accidentally prayed for and then it turned out that they could give us a little more than they previously announced ? well, you know, let the russian analysts think about it , because this is the way to evaluate the potential of the enemy. come on, let's stay about it it's just that you wrote about the consultation of such an interesting paradox, the americans wrote that in two weeks they brought six million projectiles, eh, in which there is an interesting paradox. the main thing is that any paradox worked to strengthen the armed forces ukraine has 36 drones that hunted

, why did the state department praise the possible sale of air defense systems to ukraine with names worth 85 million dollars? of air defense systems will be somewhat, where else can we get them and how will it consolidate and improve our global air defense system of air defense systems in ukraine well, here, in fact, with these, with that permission , the story will be given to the usa as much as possible . well, because they first prescribed it immediately in this is a uh, well, the combi of the yuniki, that in fact the cost can be reduced, reduced , secondly, 85 million dollars is actually uh, a very high price for an assembly, especially if you take the previous figures for the prices for ukraine known from open sources and here, for example, kupan even unfortunately, the rashistas themselves can conclude that we are paying for some kind of urgent delivery. although from the third party, how is the genre of permits from the state department for the supply of one or another type of weapons means that this is the one with whom the commercial contract can

be implemented well, everything else in our case may be that suddenly the pentagon will find reserves to supply us with at least one more battery. back well, without attracting money from our budget. if you take the pessimistic option and what will happen? 285 billion dollars. i apologize for millions of dollars for the route or one battery with us. well, where are the other illustrations ? kuwait is an important ally in the united states. 1 billion dollars, that is, that is how i understand it at night, taking into account, let's say, some elements that , unfortunately , the air force showed in the open, it turns out that in order to speed up the supply of males to us, the americans somehow managed to offend their close eastern allies, to whom these zrk were intended e- when we never have a lot of mirror cards and taking into account the area of ​​our territory and the level

of threats one hundred percent in three sentences what is there , conditionally speaking, give us 15 more sets, this will be enough, there will be no such thing either but here let's just note the very fact that even taking into account the fact that the american missile defense system has a certain lack of resources to increase production volumes, including for us the pentagon is going on certain sprees for us to understand whether the full cost is how much it really costs now we can't pay for such a weapon, that's why it creates such gaps that even if you are there , let's say 200 million dollars with one battery, but this will be the price for us to approach , especially since we want something like that for it is now a matter of particular pride for us that the percentage of shooting down by sonic cruise missiles can reach 90% there, according to shahed , this is 100%. and at the same time, we will all talk together that the cost of anti-aircraft rackets is not used for this , so here it is also worth asking the question in a different

way if we want to continue to maintain this consistently high rate of knockdown for the paths of 100%. for cruise missiles to sound 90 to 90%. then all this will only have to invest her money from her own state treasury because they heard from the other side that it is not enough to receive help, but we also need to invest ourselves . unfortunately, we have to have our defense express expert with us. we will ask him other questions at the next opportunity. in a moment i will tell you about very important information that appeared about our ukrainians who were finally exchanged about our military so please wait