[000:00:00;00] 16 because the sky must be closed. and this is what will give us this advantage. the ukrainian army needs something today. in addition, our soldiers have shown that they sometimes manage in half the projected training period in order to master this knowledge , that is, such a thirst for victory and such a desire to really defend today. our interests are national, to defend our territory of ukraine , our state, for our military, it is not difficult, and everyone admits it, and there are a lot of those, let's say, opportunities that appeared today, these are additional opportunities where we have a the military understands that they must own how to control a drone there, in this regard, it is necessary that it is not visible , the same applies to airplanes , and you know the same, and western ukraine has its own

such educational e.e. today it is a necessity and in fact, well, the army was led. yes, there are a million soldiers today who are in the armed forces of ukraine. they are definitely capable of achieving a qualitative indicator, and it seems to me that our partners have understood that in this context, it is exclusively cooperation a partnership of interaction that is beneficial to everyone, which a-a ukrainian victory will be common to all our partners, and what may not lead to this will be common, and the actual and common feeling of the ability, let's say so , of superiority and in the future success of some kind as well as today autumn said we are not tired there we will continue to do it and therefore almost 65 billion dollars of support for ukraine have been proposed and this is the 12th ramstein who already according to his words has this certain

result in addition to purchases of a certain amount and standards that are introduced in these processes and the provision of our army . therefore, we will now add to our conversation igor lytvyn, the head of the ukrainian-chinese business council and the former ambassador of ukraine to china in 1999-201 . it is already nearing the end, it seems that today he is in berlin, before that he was in poland , france and at the beginning in ukraine, some details of the visits about what they talked about, what was agreed upon are not distributed, but you, as a diplomat, may be able to read some signs or do you have a little more information about what might be the results of such a trip and what will go on to moscow with? i think that here it is necessary

to keep in mind what diplomatic negotiations are in general, that is, each side has a clear position, it is approved by the top leadership of the country, especially if it is about such important the question of how to end the war, therefore, each side tries to convince the other side of its clear and consistent position, and in this case, the main thing is to travel around all countries and meet with the relevant factors. things in ukraine, he met with the minister of foreign affairs and the president of ukraine zelensky about the fact that in france it was the general director of inflatable security issues

and in germany it was the secretary general of the german foreign ministry michaelis and in poland it was the deputy minister of foreign affairs, that is, the level was different but this once again confirms that fashion waves travel through all countries and find out to what extent the visitors in those countries perceive how they cling to er-e they call the clear and consistent opposition of the people's republic of china er-e the essence of which there is an end to the military conflict and a political settlement, while he, as his interlocutor, constantly repeats the narrative, referring to the position of the chinese supreme leader in this land, that there is no panacea to resolve this conflict, and

each side must start with itself and create favorable conditions for the formation of mutual trust and the restoration of our word , mr. igor, we agree with you well, but for the sake of that well, here are the phrases that ligvo uttered well, it was possible not to drive the government plane like that, that is chinese diplomacy repeats commonly used phrases, in particular it is about public space, but what do you think could have been hidden during his visits? so each side , i repeat, is helped and to make sure that the side that has its approved position clearly and consistently rejects being completely sober understanding rejected their position and accepted their position completely opposite, because we cannot now talk about the fact that we have to start with ourselves and create

conditions for mutual trust when only at the beginning of may, russia is shelling our entire territory, including kyiv, including the most terrible blow, how can there be mutual trust here? what are the chinese writers counting on? it's hard for me to imagine, but i 'll repeat it, it's absolutely clear, it means a parcel for all parties in all countries where he we are traveling around china, we advocate for it to mean uh let it be the sky let it be the sun let's take friends and start making sure that the war stops, we don't care who wins this war the main thing is that it stops so that we start moving on

rather, they continued to move forward in their positions, in this case it is about the economic expansion of china in russia , well, this is the appearance and these official statements , it is clear that they are so incredible and will be. and what is the chance that after coming to russia and then returning home, ey can say in russia, guys listen to the russian diplomats, surrender and stop it all there. i think that such a chance will never be easy. returning after the horn in moscow to beijing, i will answer to the supreme leader in the autumn that i tried to force them, but they did not agree. because it is clear here that if he did not try, no one in moscow would agree to it, just as in kyiv, it was clearly stated to him that the issue of the territorial value of the integrity of ukraine is the first condition and there will be no negotiations until it means that the invading forces will not be taken away from

our territory, and moscow in its comments knows that the climate there is not where it says that with its position, ukraine simply spat in the face of the special agent is treated by saying that there are no conditions for e-e, it means that there are no occupation forces and they are not withdrawn, it means that the aggressor force cannot be outside the territory of ukraine. that’s all. our chinese position will not be there at least a little and we should not expect it because it is not done like that at all. this is simply a survey of how much someone can waver in their position, turn away and take the position of , let's say, the chinese, and in order for this to happen they can send one month after another, we can see how diplomatic

there was a diplomatic rush, so the period of the first quarter went to the shields , the president went to wang yi, who is the head of the chinese diplomacy, in fact, it means he went to the central committee, the minister of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china and many people. they made a diplomatic offensive so that everyone would accept china's position, including 100 % in relation to ukraine. there will be more than one such mission until china comes to the conclusion that it needs to uh, or it means that it takes the side of uh, well, the forces of peace and democracy of the light, yes, yes, or begins to fall into the abyss together with mordor, well, in

any case, if we now we are talking about international visits, so it is not only the bad guy flew to europe, so to speak, so medvedev flew to vietnam, and mishushkin , the current russian prime minister, went to beijing . well, no matter what anyone says, but they say the visit to beijing was a failure. that is, mishushkina you won't meet there with a loaf of bread or there, i don't know, there with a bowl of chinese folk dumplings, they were extremely coldly received , well, diplomats say that this was due to the fact that medvedev's visit to vietnam was not received too well in china, so because at one time, in the late 70s, between china and vietnam was a war even which vietnam won attention and china then wisely and quickly withdrew its troops . oksano, we are sufficiently present in this incomprehensible but huge east in asia , we understand that it is, in principle, a well and a well of

technology and money and in principle diplomatic levers of pressure on whom. on our enemy, the russian federation, we use enough of this bridgehead, it is huge, i would say, and in the eighth convocation, ukraine had the experience of being the head of a friendship group from there, and they also wanted closer relations with us, we did not have them as much as it was it is necessary, but i will say the following: it is very important that we restore it, why. because well, at that time, they talked a lot and wrote a lot about the fact that india , singapore, vietnam, they apologize to us. they are trying to find some kind of interaction to build a coalition in this environment against china and the fact that there are also trade relations between them, yes, they are also there and they are powerful, but then vietnam made a request to a-a hm to receive educational services from ukraine, they remember very well

once studied in ukraine and those who studied in ukraine at kharkiv kyiv polytechnic or lviv polytechnic lviv polytechnic today they are now in high positions , i will tell you they graduated from the sorbonne and other european universities but for them a is very special that they studied in ukraine and they they remember that the contribution to their victory was thanks to ukraine, i will tell you frankly . when i will be in ho chi minh city, before this was once called saigon, the old woman said they showed us how they lived underground and why they could not be taken like that, although in fact it was very a lot of american french investments are owned by the country. i am saying the same as when we had the upa of kryivka and when many people there somewhere underground decided a lot about our ukrainian national interests and i remember how then the ambassador said oh god, there is more no one said or compared it with the upa. they will read it all because, in fact , hmmm, they have about their communist way, let's say this is how life is today, they have a very large , powerful entrepreneurial activity, which is led by

the state, but entrepreneurial activity and they need our top management , about whom they clearly spoke, they want to build a railway, so they want it to be sprayed , they are very responsible in their work, but they really wanted and very much, let's say so. with respect, it happened to those technologies. i am very they understand well the border of their interests and our interests, well, let's say it frankly, from italy we have our sport, and in ho chi minh, and once upon a time, as they say, you can't translate the word squeezed , but it was squeezed, and this is our ukrainian port that should be involved. i know then when it was our visit by our delegation from the parliament was also a visit from the ministry of economy and i would very much like this interaction to take place. that is, these are the countries that are waiting for cooperation on contracts for the same as the map , a huge, powerful country that needs and knows that she has some personal interests in cooperation with ukraine, and well, to understand this , it is a large, multi-million nation state that today can have a lot in common

with ukraine, so this is another direction - this is another job, this is a lot of work. of course, very it is important that very professional diplomats work there, who understand this in the east, who are professional, who will understand these points of contact and cooperation , but in fact there is a lot of it there, and you rightly noted that actually for the format china, which is the only leader he sees etnam as a competitor and well, sometimes we will say yes, over pretending every time to be higher and the best from above, they forget that they also work in this direction every day, and in fact , you correctly noted this format for our safety, as we once said, there is an african market, and there is here, the east is very special, it must be studied here, very professional diplomats are really needed in this work and this is another new opportunity for us from the point of view of our security and future development prospects of our

economy therefore, in this system, we have to quickly to look for orientation, well, you understand, a large national team should work, why do we say that it is necessary to prepare young people to understand, to look for them to understand what they will have to face sometimes doing a lot of work at the same time in different directions, so as of now, for example, for me, it is an important reasoned when people who have experience and who passed conditionally, diplomats, specialists who stayed there for years, so that they would pass it on , so that these schools of such a national team were preparing and we understood that today there are no unimportant things, today everything is parallel processes from our victory are very important and very necessary and there are no unimportant countries from the point of view of defending our national interests, ms. oksana has one more question for mr. igor, we have information that china has decided to speed up the construction of a pipeline to import gas from turkmenistan instead of offering in russia , they proposed the project of a gas pipeline, the power of siberia two , and it seems that this project was personally promoted by

vladimir putin, in the end, china can implement both of these projects, but representatives of the chinese the industry says that they still prefer turkmenistan, what is this? are these some purely economic interests? is it still an attempt to distance ourselves and be independent from anything related to russia and moscow there , so that in this case it would be possible to work on other fronts, and then is losing its position as a state that controls the entire region and controls every country, their leadership and levers are shifting. and maybe they have already finally moved to china because ah despite the fact that,

let's say, they are fixed in the joint economic statement of the leaders of china and russia in march of this year, during the visit of mr. sisinping to moscow, the construction of e -e roads e-e automobile e-e railway pipelines etc. in the joint declaration based on the results of the siamese forum e china central asia fixed no less and even more the number of such infrastructure projects which they allow us not to use the territory of russia in order for us all to mean the corresponding products that are transported from china to

central asia. and the main thing is, on the contrary, from central asia to china they bypassed russia , and here it becomes clear to everyone that well, you can not it is very diplomatic to say that the countries of central asia are changing and will be changed absolutely in the near future, so you mean your regional leader. well, you can’t say your geopolitical roof, geopolitical roof, so we agree with you, igor, and that what happened in xi'an extremely vividly emphasizes what you just talked about ihor lytvyn co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council former ambassador of ukraine to china in 1999 in 2001 thank you mr. ambassador for an extremely

meaningful conversation we are moving on 17:48 minute denis marchuk, deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian agrarian council, please contact us. glory to ukraine, mr. denis , glory to the heroes. congratulations. well, on the one hand, russia is trying in every possible way to block the grain agreement, on the other hand , with joint efforts, everyone was pushed and pushed, and it seems that it will function somehow for another two months. well, today something like this happened. a mysterious story in the area of ​​the bosphorus bay, a russian boat met with some kind of water obstacle. well , the russians are starting to say that it might be ukrainian drones, you already know this at their level well, the story here is not about russian boats, but about the grain agreement and the current capacity , in fact, after may 18, the movement of ships continued, but not as intensively as we

had hoped, because to date, and within the framework of the work of the corridor in these few days, we saw a slow a-a rounding of ships, i.e. to the entrance and to the exit. and the commission that should carry out this in the bosphorus is also not working effectively. the two ports of ukraine are the odessa ports, the black sea to the largest deep-sea port and the port that can send ships with large dimensions and loads . southern russia is blocking it, so it is not necessary to say in the conditions in which we found ourselves today for two months that we will quickly and efficiently take out transitory residues. well and also the market itself reacts to this because we understand two months in fact, if one month they work intensively the next month - this becomes a preliminary place for conversations about whether the grain corridor will function as a whole

therefore, within the framework of when we already started working, it is very important now to find support and form a team from countries not only with those with which we signed the agreement on the istanbul implementation of the istanbul agreements from the organization of the united nations with turkey, to have a broader coalition that would already influence and there was an understanding that the corridor would work and that it would be possible to export by sea, because in the conditions of the blockade, the impossibility of exporting would lead to the fact that ukrainian producers have already been suffering for more than a year losses, and in fact soon we will already have a new crop to thresh, and if they do not have the opportunity to move it through the corridors, this will lead to great losses, including the fact that ukraine will not receive a very significant foreign exchange yield, you see such options as you can try to increase this the export of grains, i remember that last week it was discussed, it seems, that we should take overland routes

to moldova there through the border and then try to use other ports, in particular , the romanian constant, only that option we we use it intensively because the amelie ports across the danube have developed quite effectively during this time and in fact there every month the potential across the danube to the ports of romania can reach the order of two and a half million there, this is quite a good potential and of course in the morning taking into account the conditions movement along corridors of solidarity , i.e. land routes and railways and roads, this could still be increased. that is, today we need to think about how to better integrate our logistics system into the european system in the context of the launch a-a let's say the railways because on these long routes that could move the grain and the railway to europe greatly contributed to this er-e let's say to do it more intensively because

actually it is really very important at the expense of our partners to use their countries as transits but again under all conditions, but logistics through the black sea is much cheaper, more efficient and more extensive, so we need to make every effort to make the corridor work, and we know that today an option about that if russia threatens to withdraw again from the new initiative , then as a guarantee from the state, offer financial insurance for those ships that will move to the territory of ukraine. within the framework of the agreements that we have with turkey and the united nations , otherwise, even about those unfortunately , the conditions for obtaining a harvest, which we predict in the summer, will still be much larger. no

, what we consume inside the country, that is the total amount will be about 604-65 million tons, with a consumption rate of 15-20 million, we will consume everything else within ukraine . we will need to export and unfortunately , you will not be able to get by only by land or small ports, but we are talking about big global things, but i wanted touch in order for us to work effectively, we would very much like the mechanisms and legal mechanisms to work effectively enough in ukraine as well, because unfortunately we receive appeals from farmers , including from farmers in odesa, who have their own elevator, this is the agrotransservice company 2008, which has been blocked for a certain period of time, although it uses its elevator specifically for the delivery of grain for export, because representatives of the economic security bureau came and , in fact, under the pretext of investigating a case in relation to another legal entity that has nothing to do with this campaign , blocked the operation of the entire elevator a these are tens of thousands of tons, not sold products, these are dozens of companies that are blocked

. because of such actions, that's why when we talk about the scale of the general external, we have a lot we need to solve our internal problems in order for this period of time, when it is so difficult to earn money, to have the opportunity for business to work more effectively today, in fact, we are turning to the prime minister of ukraine and the service responsible for economic security, so that when investigative actions are being conducted, they should be conducted in some civilized way so that business can function, and indeed those who are accused have been subject to certain sanctions, but we have it in the studio as well. oksano yurynets is a professor of the national university of lviv polytechnic, ex-head of the ukrainian delegation. in the panathon, mrs. oksana. maybe you have some options on how to improve this situation , that is, so that the sea can still be exported , and more grain can be exported. i understand that there are no possible concessions to the occupier . in the end, there is nothing to talk about there, we understand that the country does not follow any

agreements, but since it is overland, it is expensive and it is not possible to transfer a sufficient amount of what with the sea, how can we still work with the sea well, if we protect the sky f 16 and put a few more ships of nato member countries, and what will be additional guarantees for what expert marchuk said, then i think that then we will have more opportunities for the capabilities of the sea itself , because for now there is gdansk melon, in order to reach them to these ports, it is necessary to be able to also let's put it this way. you know that now we have queues at those borders. lviv oblast has heavy loads for five days, and sometimes even more . trucks are parked so that there is an opportunity to bring out what was grown in ukraine, so of course here security will be solely due to the fact that we can ensure the possibility of unhindered arrival - unhindered transportation of our own grain with us to the nanoska denys marchuk deputy chairman of the all-ukrainian

agrarian council yes, mr. denys, you mentioned a rather unpleasant story. well, let's hope that the cabinet of ministers of ukraine will react at the appropriate level and wanted i would like to ask you and in general there are no problems or complaints about the so-called i do not know certain quotas or queues of the so-called you know stand in line dear grain exporters well i do i am being ironic, how is this whole thing functioning now and how good or not good is the communication with the same cabinet of ministers or is it responsible for this specific grain direction ? poland and when they probably stopped the transit in april , the possibility of implementation .

products in four nomenclature of goods to the five countries of the european union of our eastern neighbors, and actually this creates certain problems because, despite the fact that transit is allowed, for example , the polish side still continues to use , let's say, those braking methods with inspections of our cars and railways which are not at all provided for in these conditions. for example, this or that grain group is moving in transit, and for that, if it is transiting, for example, the territory of poland, then it does not need phytosanitary e-e, say research, but on the contrary, poland takes on sani, conducts research, and it stops the railway there for 3-4 days, and it costs from accordingly idle, which then reflect these new positions, that is, logistics are more expensive. therefore , now we, for example, as an association, the all-ukrainian agrarian council, together with our colleagues, turned to representative, namely the ambassador of the european union in ukraine, in order for the commission to control in more detail the decisions taken by the government of certain countries that contradict

trade relations, because we know literally yesterday, the european union supported the continuation of the action without quotas and without duties for ukraine. so we are actually in the single trade market and must use the rules that govern the european union. thank you very much. with us was oksana yurynets , a professor at the national university of lviv polytechnic, ex-head of the ukrainian delegation, a fan, members of the network for the protection of national interests, anc yes well, we will gradually complete our information format your dear viewers, but there are really quite a lot of events and the head of the pentagon, we have already talked about it, but we emphasize it once again , the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin. on today's rammstein said that he hopes to start training ukrainians on the f-16 in

the coming week, an extraordinary story is important and our experts said if they are already talking about it officially, it means that the case has actually already been decided, so we say goodbye until tomorrow, and now the tv channel espresso is continuing the verdict with serhiy rudenko, glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. today is may 25, 456 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers. on thursday night, the russians once again attacked ukraine from the air. kyiv was attacked on the 12th in may. explosions rang out again in kharkiv. there were hits. in the dnipropetrovsk region, the ukrainian military announced that all 36 shahed fighters heading to ukraine from the north and south were shot down by