[000:00:00;00] well, it is very important that this communication between ukraine and our western partners only strengthens, and it is really very important that we eventually transfer our defense complex and defense potential to the production of the necessary means, because ammunition of both 152nd and 155th caliber is necessary for tanks projectiles are needed well, and so on, there are no things that are not needed in the war . the crimean khan burned moscow and it was precisely this period, may june. i think that every ukrainian would like moscow to burn and burn as soon as possible, but you will happen. it

will definitely happen . there will be ashes in the place of muscovy. the most important task is to reach our borders and the second part of this task is, of course, to become members of the european union and nato because there are two very significant dates , june and october of this year, this is when the preliminary and final hearing will take place regarding ukraine's fulfillment of the conditions for the start of the procedure for accession negotiations to the european union, experts now say that of those seven conditions, this is not the subject of bargaining agreements - these are the seven conditions that ukraine has seven obligations that ukraine has already undertaken as a country that has received the status of a scandal if we will not fulfill at least one of these conditions, we will not start

the kovel procedure for joining the european union, and today experts say that ukraine has fulfilled only three of these conditions, we must hurry, because membership in the european union and nato membership is a process that moves in parallel, because the armed forces of ukraine cannot join the north atlantic defense alliance separately, the whole country must join, and that is why today the representatives of the european union say so very softly but very clearly, carry out reforms, you are transforming the country, you have a unique chance to open a window of opportunity for you, we will have a great sin before the future generations of ukrainians if we do not use this chance because we need to beat the muscovites and we need to de-occupy the territories it is necessary to prepare ukraine for eu

and nato standards very quickly, because this is much more cumbersome and much more tasks than knocking out muscovites from some specific populated place or deoccupying one or another square kilometer of ukrainian territory , although, in truth, the effectiveness of each step in deoccupation is much greater than from such poisonous work on the transformation of ukraine and if we do not fight internal corruption, especially corruption in the ministry of defense, well, for sure, our doors will start to ring , they may simply close in front of us, there is an easier way the date is 1618, when the troops of hetman pyotr konashevich-sagaidachny stormed moscow , they didn't no, they didn't just storm, they took the city passat closed in the city, this and delhi, that is, i'm just talking about the fact that you don't have to stop, you understand, and i'm about the other thing, i'm talking about

the red lines conditionally not even. i remember one of our broadcasts when mykola veresen was on, and veresen emotionally said , well, you can imagine if someone's foot crosses the russian border of our monk there, you can drink that it will be a nuclear strike. well how did the liberation process of belgorod region begin? i think that this is a big fake and what is happening now with the placement of fake nuclear warheads, it is not clear what kind of quality or capability belarus has and so on , because there is china and china is definitely interested in a good escalation and an explosion, which part of the maniacal therefore, without these points, i will not cross the russian elite , which medvedev or putin portrays so beautifully. therefore , crimea will not stop us. thank you, but there was no russia in relation to it, and then moscow in relation to

belarus. in fact, you need to be very clear here. this is to imagine because declarations are signals, but the transportation and deployment of nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus is the actual de facto withdrawal of russia from the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons . the whole agreement and i understand that putin continues to raise the stakes, understanding all the threats he has today in the kremlin and, frankly, this beautiful bravado with which he spoke from this week . well, i would not underestimate it either, there is no doubt that putin is in control of the situation today in russia, but i am convinced that very, very difficult processes are also taking place there, we often talk about this with experts, and in particular , in our saturday stream, turn it on on the 21st

on saturday, now the word will be final viktor bishchuk taras choli just those people who really won the year in the armed forces forces of ukraine were all the time on the front lines, now you are already in those territories that we call peaceful, the rear. and you know when we include fighters from the east, who comment on something from there, they are always so disposed, very positive, they say about that that everything will be fine. we are reclaiming our territories, what will happen, and this is how our guest yury syrotyuk said today that it will happen there. in the fall , we are reclaiming everything back for ourselves, but i still want to be among these phrases that our people want to hear. here too ukrainians understood how they should behave, what they should do in order for this victory to come closer. it is the people

who remain incarnate. a counteroffensive is a matter of several weeks to several months and not even one counteroffensive and even the liberation of all occupied territories of territories occupied by russia is not the end of the war for ukraine, a victory for ukraine will be obtaining guarantees of no further further attack by russia more eh or will it be the creation of a demilitarized zone there in the form of a hundred or 200 or 200 km or the disintegration of russia into several national or ethnic states or something else and only when we receive these guarantees then we can consider that we are finally won won this war but most likely we will live with the threat of constant such and such or buyers or er total offensives, well long enough ago the question of the final victory is a question of a very, very

long time and accordingly my next answer to your questions, we well, in fact, a lot of ukrainians are lulled by such optimistic reports of the country's leadership that here we shot down the stormtroopers, here we repelled us, that is, here we liberated the village, which we do not give ourselves to the end report with what kind of colossus, yes, it is on clay feet, but it is extremely large, how much power we are fighting and we can get a chance to win only when there are several hundred thousand boys on the front lines, boys and girls on the front lines, and there is an entire country that works for them the rear must work for the front , only then we will be able to get a chance to win, in fact, this is a huge , huge, human, economic, military

, resource machine against which we ukrainians are fighting and only when everything is for the front, everything for tactic victories are a soviet cliché. maybe, but only if everything is for the front. only then will we be able to get a chance to say that we finally defeated the enemy. units were built , we treated them with candy. it was very nice and later these children built such checkpoints , our military gave them different equipment and uniforms, and here are these children who are there for half a year and a year they probably did not attend school because they lived under occupation, later directly in the war zone, and these are the children of war, and on the one hand, but i would really like them to be

the children of victory, and in order for us all to see that victory, i am absolutely here i agree with my brother viktor bilschuk, the whole country. every person should do something for the sake of victory. it is impossible to do something, you know, in peaceful cities , people forget that every minute someone on the front line loses their life , gets injured, loses their health, it goes on. 24 hours a day, it's impossible to understand this atmosphere if you don't build it, don't visit the war zone , and we should never calm down and stop because, as i said, this war has been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years , in fact dozens of muscovites have been killed millions of ukrainians and every time we forgot

that there is such an aggressive neighbor next to us , every time we wanted to put up with them , hug them, listen to their music, uh, have economic cooperation with them. they were waiting for this moment and again they attacked us insidiously and we again inflicted insane losses. we had a lot of time to realize this since 2014 , unfortunately, a large part of the people did not want to believe that this war could happen to them, and unfortunately, the war definitely came to those cities where most did not believe it and today we lost these cities and these people that is why i want all of us today to unite for the sake of this victory and give every minute of our lives, whether it is a small child or an adult , to this victory so that we in she believed that we we remembered at what price this victory was won and that this war is our war, ours all

, and victory will be ours only when we become a monolithic, powerful ukrainian nation, which i believe will be a member of nato and the european union these are very important. but i still want something. i singled out this phrase that igor koziy said about the fact that the enemies are preparing these agitations and write that there are galician regulations and we are fighting against them, and i know what i remembered. who was shariy talking about this phrase when he was famous when he was our speaker when he had millions of views, when he created political power and this political power entered these now occupied cities and destroyed cities , even local councils, he also very often used the phrase about e about reguliiv about galician rules that is all we it is the fault of what is happening here. yes, i am talking about what is certain. this is our song about bandera, if you have heard it, no , but now he sings a lot and changes his

rhetoric, and this is also all of us. we must understand, yes, i am talking about the fact that we must be vigilant. to all those who say what, who calls themselves a politician, who will call themselves a few months ago, that even if we have some kind of victory, we understand what processes we will start no, it's all very good to listen and analyze, because well, again, then it will be our responsibility and it's not the politicians who are to blame, as we later want to say. and yet, this responsibility is on us, as long as we are here in the rear, it is easier for us than the military, who are on the front lines, who risk their lives every hour and every minute, well, these are just my thoughts. i will not stand out, think about this too. thank you for being with us in this part of the broadcast in this period of time. thank you to our guests for their thoughts, and then we will talk about lviv politics. now the stories have already won. political life in lviv was in full swing, and in particular , all the major telegram channels ukrainians, in particular , began to report that

the removal of the mayor of lviv, andrii sadovoy, is possible. we are watching the story of what happened at the session of the lviv city council. there were indeed quite sensational statements that may have serious consequences, and then in the studio we will discuss with the direct participants of today's session of the lviv city council under the garden the mayor's chair was asked. the deputies of the lviv city council turned to the national agency for the prevention of corruption to check the alleged corrupt activity of the city mayor, all because of the systematic bonusing of his deputies without a decision of the council on the issue of renaming of deputy mayors is subject to consideration and discussion at the plenary meeting of the council at least once a quarter with a mandatory listening to the report of the relevant deputy mayor and adopting a decision on awarding the refusal to award the deputy mayor , although according to the deputies, they never

considered such issues, instead , the mayor andriy sadovy himself signed the decision on awarding his deputies. and this, in turn, led to the waste of budget funds to a large extent, therefore, the deputy corps sees a corrupt element in the actions of the mayor and appeals to the general public. in the last session , there were over 300 questions, among them and creditable ones, to which the city elected officials had few comments. is an uprising in the kremlin possible? let's wait for fighter jets in the us. they said that the supply of 16 to ukraine is a priority for

washington. the most important thing on thursday - may 25 at 7:15 p.m. in the project speaks the great lviv platform where everyone gets a word and hears everyone on the air of nta espresso tv channels and also in social networks speaks the great lviv the informational defense of ukraine we return to the studio of the project the great lviv speaks and talk about the event to the lviv city council today lviv politics appeared on the front pages of all ukrainian news agencies, and in particular telegram channels, we heard an appeal to

the publicist regarding the activities of andriy sadovoy now we have deputies in our studio martyniuk european solidarity let's start with you, what do you think about the appeal of your colleague, mr. raznik, and to what extent this appeal can have a long-term effect that can really change well, in fact , there is a long-term consensus in lviv politics, because andriy sadovy has been in power in our city for a very long time. it's been more than dozens of years, really . it's been a long time. look at your court clerk for 18 years, so that literally somewhere recently it was 17 years. 17 years is the age of majority. it's been a generation and everyone remembers the gardener on account of the fact that today he made a statement in various, you know, it's urgent and i think that if the law enforcement agencies get involved in it and

will investigate it qualitatively, then we will see some shifts in the plane, namely corruption photo buyer protocol, i will tell you what it consists of in a few words so that you understand everything. we have a wallet that we all accepted as deputies only when we formed and accepted the powers. we wrote about what if the mayor of lviv wants to reward their deputies, they must first evaluate the situation in front of the deputies' corps, and after that, uh, on the basis of that, well, we worked hard, then we will give them a bonus, but in 2.5 years, not once except today was the first time kiral spoke, uh, we gave him the evaluation, well, the one that came out, the one that came out, well, it’s very interesting, the higher one. and not a single deputy mayor reported to the deputy corps, well, however, the mayor clearly

assigns to the deputies every month, and sometimes twice a month, madness madness certain, but he does not approve of this to the deputy corps. this is god's statement in summary, which was said by riznyk and he led this. wait for your appeal to the nazk . what should the nazk do? accordingly, we, as a body of deputies, will be forced to remove him, that is, remove him from the performance of his direct functional duties, namely the mayor. and how andriy sudovy reacted to this appeal today, see the very first the question you asked, how many lessons is this here, this is 17. believe me, he is such a manipulator, he is very good at manipulating , uh, looking to the side. well , it was clear from his face that he understood that it was already somewhere

close, you know how this needle is, the bus, how will it be, kosheya she is immortal, the bunny is already running somewhere, you understand that the deputies did not report, and in the day line there should have been a report , in particular, andriy moskalenko, er, the introduction of the mayor of the city, the first one did not take place, this report was supposed to be. well, you understand, two from there in one final day. today, in fact, in kiverka, we are listening for three hours, even from a larger one. and luskarenko, to new ones, to him, even more questions, even the same malicious decisions of the executive committee , which he signed, well, it is all necessary to be alone, to ask how it happened, in what way , and accordingly, we postponed it for the next time, or for another session. let's say so , mateyuk, your position and your political strength. well , in fact, our position is quite simple and understandable. it has not changed since the

moment when the political party varta entered to the members of the lviv city council, first of all, we say that all deputies, the mayor, officials, or citizens of the city of lviv must comply with the current legislation, and the case that mr. yuriy just spoke about the initiator of which was mr. raznik's appeal. he says that, let's put it this way, the law of the city council and such for deputies and for executive bodies is the regulation of the city council's work, and according to mr. raznik, it was violated and, accordingly, the appeal to the highest anti-corruption to a state body, this is uh-uh, in my opinion, it is quite a correct thing, and accordingly, we should take it into consideration, check it, and if you , the actions of the mayor are a violation of the regulations, and therefore it is a violation of the law on local

self-government in accordance with the entire block of legislation that is related with the execution of a-a by local self-government bodies of their powers as well as e-financial discipline, of course there should be a reaction to this and if e-e such things took place and from the fact of this appeal i can state that e-e objective grounds for a- let's say so works and conclusions in this format do exist . surely we would be. well, let's say that we would respond adequately if it is confirmed from the other side. if there are any arguments in favor of such actions of the mayor, of course they must also be considered objectively, although i agree with mr. yuryem, in fact, well, we are not very fond of the format when

the mayor or anyone else says that we have certain traditions and disregards those formal procedural norms or regulations or some law acting at his own discretion and not guided by the actual legislation in force, which is the duty of every official and every deputy. and what does that mean? there are certain traditions , you know. i very often hear that the situation in the state is very serious. what does tradition mean? actually , i very often hear references to traditions when deputies eh... having any questions, they say to the officials why is this happening? even though the law says otherwise, they tell us , well, according to tradition, this has always been the case, and we are a faction where there are a large number of deputies for whom politics is new and in fact they do not understand

traditions that are based on the will of one or more people and not on current legislation and, let's say, the interests of the city community, so we believe that everything will be fine with us if each of us acts within the law and bears responsibility for our actions, that's why i think nothing terrible happened today, but the deputy activity is actually one of the directions of this activity, it is the control over the bodies of the executive power , mr. riznyk actually, in his opinion, he found violations in the actions of city officials, namely, in the actions of the city mayor, this should be checked in this, the national anti-corruption bureau should give a proper assessment and accordingly, those conclusions should be taken into account by the mayor and the deputy corps and the city community if the consequences of this will be any within the limits of eh i don't know administrative responsibility a-a

civil, property, criminal. we must take this into account and work further without breaking the laws of this major element of finance and budget planning ms. natalya. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine, you are just the person who stands guard over our money, the money of lviv residents, because lviv's budget is filled, including from citizens' taxes, and it must be spent. of course, there is some logic in this , as regards the bonuses to the deputy mayor, which he writes out without agreeing with the council, the deputies did not vote for it, and how big is the amount? how much of the budget do we spend to reward officials, namely the deputy mayors of the city? i am not ready to answer you right now

. the amounts change, but they are somewhere in the range of 200% of their deposits of their salaries every month. but there are additional ones. in addition to the bonus, there are also payments of financial assistance for recovery and improvement of social and living conditions. and you, as the head of the budget commission, i think, that is, they have the right to receive these bonuses, or do we as a community have to think now, during the war, whether they need them in principle or not? in this way, it should be within the framework of the law. and you know that. well , human logic, see, the question is quite complex, and i definitely cannot say that this or that official deserves or does not deserve a bonus, because we have officials who work practically around the clock.

and it is clear that they deserve to be with bonuses because their salaries are not extremely high there, no matter how it seems possible, you know well, this is such a difficult enough question because when the e-e specialist will have a different offer and we will lose a good one of a professional worker as a city council well , that's for sure it's also wrong , it's also wrong just to give out bonuses within the framework of 300%. i think that every manager in the city council who is responsible for one or another direction rewards his employees independently and based on certain parameters regarding the city mayor and er deputies well, there is probably still some political component here and today mr. various er appealed to certain bodies with a request to check the legality of charging such

premiums and we will wait for the decision of this body to what extent it is all legal and then we can talk about it, you know what you want to talk about. especially, i think that many of our viewers who watch our films, they are through we usually say that now everything that is happening in our country should be aimed at helping the armed forces of ukraine, many experts say in our studios, our viewers who watch our broadcasts often comment and say that they are now at this moment in time when we are fighting with by the russian federation, ordinary people have everything they have. they are trying to give everything to help the armed forces of ukraine, and at the same time, a certain reality is emerging in us, which we are now talking about, where there are uh,

multi-percent premiums somewhere around 200-300 percent well, how important it is to do at this time and it is appropriate to do it, because well, it seems to me that there is a certain dissonance here . well, of course, there is, if we talk now about the fact that the country is divided into military and volunteers , so because everyone who is not a military man is also aware of that so that it is clear that if i were definitely the manager, i would not go to the motivation for my employees to explain why these bonuses are inappropriate for today or if they are, then where they should be directed , that is, uh, but i want to emphasize that the deputy corps accepted its time to decide about the program and this program is in effect and half a billion hryvnias was allocated from the budget

of the city of lviv for such an important thing as the national resistance, where we help the military at their request. thank you . uh, on the broadcast of the bbc from ukraine , olga palamaryuk is working in the studio, and in today's episode we will try to understand what the situation is in the eastern direction of the ukrainian front , the head of the ukrainian front, wagner, said that he is withdrawing mercenaries from bakhmut to replace them, allegedly will regular russian troops come, will the destroyed city become a trap for the russians, from a yakutian cook to the head of one of the most brutal armed forces, what you should know about yevgeny prigozhin and the price of defense , bbc correspondents spoke with a ukrainian family who gave