tv [untitled] May 26, 2023 1:00am-1:30am EEST
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greetings, friends, this is a face. my name is dmytro chistyakov. today i am visiting my colleague , journalist and teacher ivana. slobodyanuk ivanna slobodyanuk, journalist, teacher , author and producer of the documentary felix list podilsky before the full-scale invasion of russia, ivana worked for on the national tv channel and taught at the kyiv national university of culture and arts. the great war took the life of ivanna's friend, felix khurtanich. he was an aerial scout, a drone operator, a volunteer , and so that the warrior's name would not be lost in the pages of history, ivanna decided to collect in one tape all the memories and stories about the heroic defender of his life and his death, because the story of felix is also the story of young dead boys who died for ukraine in the war that continues and
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will take many more young lives, well now i was watching these footage, uh, you mention him again. i am thinking about felix . let me tell the viewers what kind of person he was, who has not yet seen the film or heard about him. we remember him. he spent most of his conscious life in the war because when he was 17 years old, the revolution of dignity began in which he took a very active part, and after the revolution of dignity he went to war and he turned 18 there and he was only one year old in civilian life and when he started working with drones and it was there that we met him on one of the tv channels, he went to the east and then he was there for quite a long time and decided to resign and he had a year . it seems to have been 20 20-21- and a year, just before the full-scale war, when he decided to retire and start building something in civilian life, and he became very interested
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in drones because he was already in the airship during the war. he became interested in drones and he became a very cool drone operator, and i am sure that most of his shots were taken on independence day, he and his drone helped set a record for ukraine, he raised the largest flag of ukraine in the sky, and all uh , his drone gave me a garage on straw, where , of course, the audience knows that when uh, foreign the media installed a surveillance camera over the maidan when they were waiting for the invasion of the russian federation then and then the famous drone that gave the volume that i will sell the garage it was the grand of felix kortainich he loved to travel we traveled together we traveled around
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our native kherson region, khmelnytsky region, lviv region he went with my colleague to the carpathians, and he brought back such incredible footage from there that when you saw it, you didn't, well, he could see like no one else had seen, and it was actually him . his relatives, his friends, his comrades who fought with him and they saw what he does in civilian life, but when a full-scale war began, felix said without hesitation that the war had begun and he went to the front because he could not have done otherwise. and they ended up in the kyiv region, they were defending the kyiv region. the enemy retreated, when we repulsed the enemy, they realized that there was nothing to do here, and they went to the east, and on april 17, there was information in the east that felix could not be found, and on april 18, it was already confirmed that he died, but you say that you remember, but despite looking at
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the fact that it has been more than a year since felix krutanich died, for more than a year they are talking about him as if he is still alive. well , you are so inspired to talk about felix , it is really a confirmation of the thesis that ukraine is now losing its best guys, while our the enemy sends all the junk to the front, and felix with it was awarded right posthumously already after the death of those who died with him and and they were awarded the order for courage of the third degree posthumously, he had many awards before this because felix came to the vnu war in 14- that year he was in piske, he was in mariupol, but he gave his award to the museum, because when he died, his parents started looking for awards to sort through his things and they couldn't find his awards and found out that felixidant is everything is in the museum where his things are kept in the kyiv region but the award for
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bravery of the third degree was received by dad eh and she yes and she is not at home you i noticed very aptly now you call the thing that felix was in the war from the 14th year her name is this and how, for some reason, some journalists in our country still say that because it really was the 14th year of the war of the russian federation against ukraine, it really annoys me. when they say that the war started a year ago , it really annoys me when osa actually said that , because it is a war and it has already lasts nine years, and it was just a year ago that a full-scale war began, but even when we were making a film, and the film in our country is intertwined with historical events and was titrated, and at some point we were watching and we thought to titrate the 14th year, and that’s how it is customary to say in the information space. is that all? war, and i say no, we are filming about a full -scale war, the war lasts nine years and the 14th year
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is dubbed as the war of russia against ukraine, how did you decide to film it, you immediately understood that felix died, it must be somehow to immortalize him in this way ah well, i can't say that it was right away because um, first of all, this news came to us with friends very unexpectedly. we knew that felix was in the east, but we were sure that nothing would happen to him maybe they always think so, i don’t know, relatives, friends of those who have been fighting for a long time, but they think about such people that such people should not die, they have experience, you understand, he was an experienced scout with a lot of experience, and when we found out what happened, we
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were very shocked and for sure passed somewhere a week, maybe two. i started talking to his dad, because we were not familiar with his parents before that, and dad says that there is so much material left from the drones, the material he shot very cool footage there in chernobyl . my then director ruslan hryshko decided that there should be a film, but we wanted to make a movie, maybe some youtube project, maybe some short film, but when we started to learn more about felix kortainich , when did we realize that he was related to everyone of historical events that took place in independent ukraine. we realized that we can't limit ourselves to just a small film. this is a full meter, it's a big documentary, and then ah, well, it was his dream. when ruslan and i were traveling, he said, ruslan, we're going to shoot a movie with you. we're going to do it. our cinema and we understood that we have the dream of felix kortanych
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. we have the story of felix korzh. we have different people who are ready to tell us this story and we have to document it and it has grown into such a large documentary historical project felix, how was it to communicate with the parents, you understand that every question for them is like a knife in the heart in the teaser for the film, the grandmother remembers danny when they found out about the death and that they did not find the body this was a story in general a- and for everyone, it’s worrying because on april 17, uh, he called my dad and his brothers. he said that they had found everyone , but they couldn’t find felix, even at night, and mom, dad and grandmother were still sure that it was possible that he was captured. maybe she threw him somewhere
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. maybe somewhere uh they can't find it, but already on the 18th on a-a when the medics came and said who they recognized and who they cannot identify because a -a they found a very badly burned body and they cannot recognize them, then the comrade who came out there said that felix korney was there with them or and when the weapons that were found were matched and compared with the documents, i found out that it was felix, ah, you understand, when relatives do not see the body, it is very difficult to believe that you really lost a person, and not only to relatives, but also to friends, and there were a lot of other situations after that and who gave hope to their relatives to my friends that he might be alive, we always want to believe that if i didn't see him there, but
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unfortunately, unfortunately, this is the story, this is his fate , and this is his choice . how did he die? first there was information that they died in the luhansk region near the border, this is not true , she died in the village of lozove in the donetsk region, and now when there are changes, somewhere there, something is being written about him. we are correcting them that he did not die in the border area. he died in donetsk region the village of lozovo, but the fact is that at that time there was a very strong, well, very active phase of the war, and it was very difficult to understand exactly where it all happened, and his relatives did not even know where he died until the last, and they found out after we had already gone to the place of death we didn't know this either, we found out somewhere that more than six months had passed and we accidentally
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ran into a fellow survivor who gave us geolocation and we went there to find out exactly how the guys died, it's difficult because the situation is very unclear, the only house that is in this the village of lozovo it was theirs and it was broken more nearby, all the other houses were intact that is, they were 100% tracked or handed over er . it was a new location to which they came to say that they had been followed there for a long time . it was difficult that something came flying very strong and burning because the wave was so strong that all the guys who were on the street and there it turned out that some were in the house, some were on the street, everyone who was on the street died because the car detonated, the car caught fire and there was such smoke from it that the guys who survived and went out through rear window they said no there was nothing to breathe, they did not see anything, they were too contused to be able to help their brothers and the two
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of them went through the back window of the house to get help because there was a battle nearby, they went to get help so that the boys could save, but the wave was so strong and guy was so strong about this smoke that it burned everything that was on the street. there was nothing left of felix , and the boys, well, they hid all of them very hard in closed colors, only one was hidden in the open, but they even tried to save him they couldn't. it's incredibly incredible, the story is true when you say that there are targets around the house. but this is such a point hit , well, you understand that it was done specifically, unfortunately, unfortunately, every time we are faced with the fact that we have some people who work for the enemy which tell you where to go, how did she dare to go there to the place of death because
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it is not safe at all, we had already traveled to the east before this, and this was our second trip and in general. when it happened, lozova was still occupied, but she said that we would go there. that is we are not understood. where exactly is this location, but i understood that we will go there. when they kill him, you understand. when you shoot a documentary project like this - it's not about a movie, it's about life, which you comment on in real time, and in order to tell about it and tell people, you have to be there. you have to to visit there when we went to the east for the first time and i was always refused , and because it is dangerous, because ah, well, why are you going there, you can take some footage from somewhere, you can ask the military there, but i clearly understood that we
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cannot. i, as a producer, a director, can not to tell people about what i did not see with my own eyes i got to see what a full-scale war is like i got to see how the military lives in these conditions i got to see these broken houses and what was left of those houses and how people are surviving there now and i got to see the place of felix's death to feel it and convey it to others because what you feel in that house where they died is a feeling that you can't convey with words, emotions, or text, it's a lot of understanding of what happened, it's one hundred percent the understanding that you will never forgive a single russian in your life, it is not that there are not a single good russian there when
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you arrive and open the gate and enter this house you clearly understand this because you clearly understand that four soldiers died here and they died because that they were killed by the russians and when you return from there it is a very difficult feeling because this is life and what you saw and felt there you bring here to this life in civilian life where at first glance everything is fine and er the war does not have such an active phase and it was very difficult in fact, it was one of the most difficult moments during filming. i was away from him for a long time, but i knew what i was going for, i knew where i was going and i knew what could be waiting for me there, and coming back is also a contrast
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of feelings, so when you are there and come back relatively safe peaceful kyiv that's what this feeling is, it's a very strange feeling, you know, and on the one hand, as the military say, you're glad that it's quiet here because they 're doing everything right there, on the other hand, hmm . sometimes i want people to be more sensitive to the war because you know when a-ah will fly somewhere in kyiv, people are like this, and a full-scale war, oh my god, a rocket has arrived . and when everything is quiet, there is a war somewhere, and i want people to remember it, not when the rocket arrived . and those who died and those who continue to fight because there is hell on the front line and it has been there since the 14th . and now there are even more of them, and ordinary boys and girls like you and me are dying there, and they are dying not because they chose it there yes, as he says, it
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's their choice, they die because they protect they are killing our state for our future, and this is a very big contrast, but it is probably a good contrast, because it is a good thing that we can do to develop culture, develop cinema , education, and do everything so that when they return from there, they will be comfortable and well here. that is the most important thing that we do everything so that they and our future will be fine here, so that we don't forget about what they are doing there now, i don't understand people who say that this is their choice. i think that none of them dreamed of going to war in their childhood country against its neighbor aggressor states this is a choice that they really made , but they couldn't do otherwise, this is an election to protect us and you about donat, you said that we need to donate and by the way, donat was a film made by her, so you
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call it folk right, a- and i, how was it, you collected money somewhere, people abroad sent funds, were they ukrainians, how was it from abroad and a ukrainian, and when did we start shooting the film with our own funds, and when i ran out of money and i realized that a- and we don't take it further, and friends met me and she says that open the donation, we will donate, others will donate. i say it is not in time. look how much is needed. how much should be donated? they say it is also necessary. this is history. this is the future. this is what children can grow on. it is important and i took a risk. i opened this donation and i was very pleasantly surprised. when i saw that
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people started donating from one hryvnia to 40,000 hryvnias, and they helped us throughout the year. i saw that he was passing on the information donated somewhere, but even before natola from poland. our friends who were there sent funds and were looking for opportunities there . how can they be transferred? students donated to natola. people there, even from those who are related to the top of the state in this country, supported them, and that ’s why i say that this is a people's film because it is a film that we made simply because people supported it, because people need a project for such a film. and you know, this was a confirmation of the fact that when after our closed screening, the commander wrote to me and he told ivan that we should know about such simple guys and we should film them. and here we have a film about a simple family, about simple
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guys, for simple folk, non-folk, it's one thing - it's the same for simple voluntary donations of ukrainian people who joined and who wanted to help make this is a movie, and we also forgot about the zithers , because thanks to them , this is a movie. no more credits of those people which are the same, how are they with movies with nicknames, uh, with surnames with nicknames, how are they, donatel and that's how they are recorded, and each little person is what kind of person, because you can't say little person, this is a person with a capital letter , just who comes to the cinema, she will be able to see there my last name and will be able to say that i helped shoot the film felix and
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we are infinitely grateful. i will be grateful all my life to everyone who supported this documentary project , because thanks to this project, thanks to the people who joined this project, felix kornich will live forever and when you are no longer felix kurt is not enough for those who knew him, or if you want to meet felix kornich, you can turn on the movie and see him live as he was, dear kipish felix kornich. well, i think that only those who know felix and from his homeland can give we visited, of course. yes, when they were shooting the film that was there, his acquaintances told us that you filmed something interesting there. it was the most difficult period of filming because we lived in the house of risfel for three days with his grandmother and mother and with his father and
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sister with his uncle and aunt who came to visit with the neighbors today and well, imagine you live in the house of a person who is not there, but everyone gives her photos, everyone who comes in talks about him, and the main scenes of the movie with parents, with mom, with dad, with grandma were filmed there, grandma told us a lot of interesting moments from childhood and how she looked for him here all over the village, how she ran after him and how she ate him, the neighbors brought the little one because he had already caught fire somewhere, he got in, she couldn’t catch him anywhere, and at some point she just put him there like how well, not in a cage, but like where she was working in the garden, she grabbed one of them and planted it in front of her so that he wouldn't run away , but the rapists said that hm. he always helped to develop the village. they and my grandmother built museums of such different types
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, too, ukrainian ones. the whole village was demolished by felix, he helped build it, whitewash everything there, put everything in order , and told me, dad showed him his favorite place where they always went for a walk with their family, it's such an alley, it's very beautiful there in the field, in nature, where they walk with their dogs, because in we have five of them they told a lot about his childhood and because he grew up in this very village, the hryna people of the vinnytsia region, he grew up there and everyone knew him there, both as a child and as an adult . unfortunately, we were not able to be at the farewell at the funeral, but in the video that was sent to us, the whole village cheered with the hero felix kornich, therefore, it is not harder for grandparents to survive the death of a young man, this is already different, you know. well, this is a different
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love than even the love of parents . you know, you need to know this personally. in spirit, she is a team there in the hernias. she holds the whole village, she volunteers, she works, and when she lost her grandson , she can see her anger, hatred, ah, grief, because this is a huge grief for the grandmother. you are right, but she accumulated it in such a way that she began to work even more she started doing even more things, they volunteer there, they feed the military, they send a lot of everything to the front, she immediately gives money there from her pension so that the boys there can buy everything they need for the front. she supports felix's brothers. and here is the capitol
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mykhailovna in general and this family is a huge example of how to allow grief to kill yourself together with the one who died and when the movie comes out you will see this incredible woman who lost her grandson who hurts but she continues to do everything for our victory and she does it like this it’s cool that i just don’t know, young people can envy mikhailivna’s capitol and because of how she is going through it. and because of how enthusiastically she is doing all this right now, the military even says that the mountains should become a driving force for new victories no need, one of the military once told me that if russia killed one person and there are still 10 e-e through the mountains, they are suffering for a very long time . that means that russia was 10 people ago, there is
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grief, there is memory, of course, but this should move us forward to victory well, that's it, i'm distracting myself, you're talking because you understand, you can hate, you can lose, i don't know common sense after every missile strike and after every destroyed house, but we have to become stronger because, as one of the soldiers said, this war is with us for a long time and we have just become the eyes of steel in the war so that you get to defeat him, victory will definitely happen but we have no right to let ourselves become sour under any circumstances because then it will be very difficult for us to be given this victory and it is very difficult when there are people who do not understand the important it's a great story about a family, and a great story about felix
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, our hero, but i know that it still causes anger on your part. why do you understand that when you do something , you always get both something good and something bad, and where can the bad come from here? for example, now i don't see anything wrong, a person went with public funds, shot a film about a hero, did a great job, did a bad job here and there. maybe someone wanted to do it too , but couldn't or didn't want to or didn't find the resources or didn't find the way. and when the felix production team and i took it and did it sometimes people and games for what they did on that, but you know, we were not guided by being the first to do something, i
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will be very happy and very grateful if many more projects are made about felix, we just turned a friend's dream into reality and even all we give the money we receive from the rental of tapes to the needs of the army because people trusted us and donated to the film , and we will return them back to the people who protect us and who also helped us in the creation of this film. we worked for free, no one in the team earned money from this project and when the film is released, all funds will again be given to us from this film. nothing , the only thing we needed was for us to realize the project, we realized the dream of a friend . everything, anyone can say what they want, it's us we live in a free country and everyone has the full right to their opinion and we are just always open to any opinions and we do our
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job and we do it well because we have a very cool team with a smile . 11 years on television and it was already different and when i understand that i am in my place and when i understand that we are doing good things and we have many more good reviews than bad, i don't care who says what because if you pay attention to everyone a phrase or there for every person who wants something somewhere harm so now you will all be spending energy in the wrong direction and we and the team have something to spend and where to spend our strength
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