[000:00:00;00] there his tour is taking place in african countries and this shows that we have become proactive precisely in converting these countries to our position in new directions on in new directions no less important are directions where nuclearization in the world is not widespread nuclear weapons clean energy e climate change therefore that in front of this and the changes , everyone is equal and it is necessary to somehow fight, and it is precisely this solidarity that the event demonstrates, it will be useful to overcome such challenges that will be faced by humanity by all humanity until our conversation is joined by oleg, a forest political scientist, and olezhe. we congratulate you. so, we can ask you the same question about how you evaluate the summit that took place in japan, what conclusions can be drawn, in particular, for ukraine. well , first of all, i think i fully share the opinion of my colleague in the sense that ukraine

was in the center, but ukraine was not just in the center of the event, it was on the cutting edge of confrontation between a conditional global democracy and a global autocracy . because the red line here is that the civilized world is ready to fight against such authoritarian regimes both in russia and in china, because in china it was also between the lines almost constantly, especially in the sense that when two peace plans converge, that is, the peace initiative of ukraine, and on the side of this initiative , as far as i am concerned, it is this global global democracy, and around the chinese so-called peace plan, because even the chinese it is not exactly called a plan, after all, other states are uniting, well, it is clear that it is, and russia has understood that it is brazil, as well as a pair of peacekeepers there, too

. the civilized world said no, there will be no trade of land and territories for peace, i.e. for this truce so that ukraine would stop its struggle and russia would build up its muscles and then attack ukraine with new force, so i believe that this was a very important meeting and we will see a little later, all the consequences were here , and india was talked about here, and the military component that would spill out. i think that some real actions will take place, because i am sure that our president had these conversations about weapons , about financial support, and so on. i think that the next rammstein show will be a continuation of this meeting in a military sense. ruslana guessed that if the peace plans offered by ukraine, in particular china, and there even now a certain vision of the negotiations that should take place between ukraine and russia was formed, however, we are talking about the fact that the leaders

of the countries josen supported it is the ukrainian version for our viewers, please . in short, help summarize what was the fundamental difference between the ukrainian plan and the alternative ones, and why it is important that the leaders of the zhyshevyn countries supported our version the fact is that our plan or zelenskyi’s plan is 10-10 points, it is actually developed together with the west because the west is the alliance that stands behind us and supports ukraine. it seems that this is a regional war of principle, and the issue became global because, in fact , the borders were violated by force and the security system , which was established as a result of the second world war and was established by the helsinki act, was violated in general in 1975, all this was violated by russia, and therefore the restoration of this system is a global cornerstone of the global security system, and therefore our plan is a contingency plan

, if we talk about china's initiative , china is undeniably pursuing its goals, which is the peaceful rise of china and the conquest of - well, in fact, global leadership in the world, hmm, in order to advance the united states of america and the system it created. and it must be said honestly that this system was created by the united states of america in the security, economic and financial spheres. the brettenbud system works, which one was created, the united states of america is a competition between china and the united states , so the plans compete with each other, chinese initiatives, these are 12 steps and 10 steps, zelensky's plan for the west, they compete with each other, there are common points in these plans that china is the first point he wrote what we wanted to hear, he wrote that the restoration of compliance with the norms and standards prescribed in the un charter and this is the sovereignty

of the countries of independence from its size and territorial inviolability and that's it for now one or two points, there are nuclear not yet proliferation restrictions, 2-3 points we have in common, but the plans are definitely different, which includes the ukrainian plan, the peace formula proposed by the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, and this is a set of solutions and the implementation of which will guarantee the end of the war. 10 points , radiation, food, energy security , the release of all prisoners, the restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine, the withdrawal of russian troops, the return of justice , the fight against ecocide, the prevention of skeletons in the end, the fixation of the end of the war is for those of our viewers who may not remember all the points. zelensky suggested the leading countries of the world to join the discussion of the formula and its implementation and

in this way become co -fighters for peace. 141 states, member countries of the un. so, mr. olezh, can i have your opinion about what actually coincides in our understanding of peace and security in our understanding of the peace plan and the resolution of this conflict of war and in in the heads of those respectable people who met at the summit in japan, well, it is clearly written in stone there and about a just peace and about what will be with us until the achievement of this just peace, but to be honest, i may have read poorly or did not see what was not there indicated to the victory because it is very important, in my opinion, that we have a common vision of the civilized world and , first of all, of ukraine, in terms of what the victory will be, what exactly it

will be, because so far even in ukraine there are different visions. and in the west, even more so here clearly it was indicated which side the civilized world is on. it is exclusively on the ukrainian side and it is not ready. it is very important to trade with us in this situation . it is the first time or not the first time. on vistra, that is, he is really fighting for it, and i saw that the world, in the form of, let's say, in the form of these seven states, it stopped being afraid of russia , it can be seen because here every line is actually well , the one that concerns ukraine and russia's war against ukraine, he is balanced and he breathes with determination, and

this cannot help but make us happy because, as the president said, this is another big step towards peace, and i am sure that peace must be achieved exclusively on these 10 points of zelenskyi. others, because a lot of peacekeepers have appeared who, in my opinion, serve the interests of china, mostly not even of russia, russia is noticeable somewhere, it is already being used by the same china as a means to achieve its geopolitical goals, and this is what putin was fighting for with his wars and with ruslan's incomprehensible pretensions, we also mentioned today the meeting of president zelensky with representatives of countries that are not yet one hundred percent the main group of support for ukraine, that is , those who are just beginning their journey and we are beginning our diplomatic the way to fully adjust them to the right one for us. let's put it this way. the mood is to talk

, of course, about the meeting of president volodymyr zelenskyi with the prime minister of india. by the way, they made public the information about what was discussed there, in particular, about the return of ukrainian children, about the reconstruction of ukraine, ah, ah, but we only saw the president’s vidos, only a video edited with sound, and there was such serious music that it seemed that the topic of conversation or is eh- is some kind of secret, something that cannot be heard by ordinary ukrainians is being discussed there, or well, let's go, although the question is how important is this dialogue in general, that it took place on the fields of sami, that is, with the representatives of india, as it is not yet part of group to the group of countries that declares there one hundred percent support and understanding, as is the case in ukraine, in the context, he is not against russia. well , i believe that this is the starting point of the work of the countries of the global cock, and it is, well, if you can compare the president in this way, he broke the

ice that was or e began we started actively working with these countries of the global rooster why india because india is the leader of the accession country once it was when we had the cold war and the confrontation of the united states of the ussr india occupied or proclaimed the third way and many countries were united around it who wanted to stay neutral and not get involved in this bipolar confrontation. india remains such a leading force before this and therefore it was very important to directly explain our position because in fact china and india and asia lived in the narratives of e- of russian propaganda until now and they looked at this crisis with their eyes through moscow , today they directly received the facts , they received the ukrainian position , a dialogue began, this became the starting point, as i say, and

this actually breaks the ice that was and now, if people have two points of view, the russian one and ours, at least they will take into account the fact that it is a denunciation and the ukrainian side is the real facts that we are the injured party, that russia is the aggressor, and it is also necessary to take into account the fact that india is actually one of the countries that is helping russia and it is important to explain that the help provided by india is supporting the aggressor in its efforts to seize more territory and continue this war, and that is why i think that this is an important emergency meeting in order to stop this war and for the aggressor to suffer his punishment. thank you help you understand more information about our conversation the united states will continue to cover the needs of ukraine at the front, the president of the united states of america, joe biden, stated this during a meeting with volodymyr zelenskyi in hiroshima, the white house reported that during the conversation, biden confirmed the president of ukraine's commitment

to support the ukrainian people under during the leader's meeting, the issue of training ukrainian pilots on f-16 fighters was discussed . despite the fact that the usa still maintains the position that kyiv should not use the aircraft transferred by the west to penetrate the territory of russia against in kyiv, our society appreciated him very highly, we then talked about very difficult decisions and you did it, you approved a training mission for pilots. we are very grateful for this. i think it will provide us with stronger battlefield positions the united states is doing everything it can to strengthen ukraine's ability to defend itself, this includes a new joint effort by partners to train ukrainian pilots on fourth-generation fighter jets

such as the f-16. this week, the group of seven also imposed hundreds of new sanctions and export restrictions on russian assets to putin and those who support him have borne responsibility for this war . lesya prohibited chairman of the committee on state budget expenditures joins our conversation . the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on ms. lesya's budget, we congratulate you, and we welcome the question right away. how do you personally assess the meeting between the two presidents of ukraine and the united states ? in general, how do you assess this meeting that took place in

japan ? shows the unquestionable support, and we can already speak not only traditionally of the western countries, but also of the whole world , precisely the course of the president of ukraine, the course of ukraine, its aspiration to achieve the victory of peace , security and democracy, which directly concerns the actual visit of the president of gs7, then we can see that the meeting took place also in a rather symbolic city in hiroshima and this is very systemic for us now .

in europe, i think in the whole world, that is why all of us, through these events, meetings and actions, the whole civilized world has demonstrated readiness for constant and maximal support for ukraine, and actually for the victory of ukraine. as for the meeting between president volodymyr zelenskyi and the president of the united states , biden, i would like to note that once again we felt from those states continuing the course of support for ukraine, they are one of the leaders of the so-called aviation coalition. and precisely with this position, which is absolutely sure that in in the near future we will be able to receive the f16 fighter jets necessary for the armed forces, in addition, as a result of the meeting, it became known about a new package of military aid that the united states is once again providing

to ukraine in its struggle for independence, mr. ruslana, with you as a diplomat, i would like to discuss the behavior in general how the president of the united states behaved, they saw this communication with volodymyr zelensky , now we will ask our editors to show these shots, and the president of the united states means a hand on the shoulder er volodymyr to zelenskiy klav and so on. they communicated in such a friendly manner, even so informally, but from the point of view of diplomacy , what can this indicate ? the interlocutors have their own chemistry , they understand each other, they no longer meet informally, remember the first meeting , how tense it was, when zelenskyi met biden for the first time, she was a bit so extremely formal now, now she friendly now she is friendly they communicate in them there are many common topics the countries are in the same camp of democratic

countries stand for the same values ​​and the countries have really become strategic partners and therefore their leaders definitely have something to talk about and here is such in addition to chemistry, interdependence, i will tell you because the victory of ukraine for biden is already a pre-election victory because he is running for a second term and after an unsuccessful situation with the state. to lose resources are actually american, but it was done practically well, not quite done at the highest level , the withdrawal of troops from there and without after this situation , the situation with ukraine is indisputable, when the united states helps to defend the norms and standards of relations in general that are accepted in the world by interstates to support freedom to support territorial integrity

, independence of states is worth the second, and therefore for biden, this is such a positive example that he can even use in his election campaign in the united states no oleshka, we are talking now between the presidents of two countries, and how much will she speed up, in particular, the provision of the same ff-16s to ukraine , well, first of all, this is the chemistry that you can turn off the sound and see how the presidents communicate and everything is clear there, you don’t even need words it's about support and it's a signal to putin because putin she hugs lately only with lukashenka and it's right because dictators should be in one box and then on the same dock and that's this story, well, the closest story for them if well, even if they

will stop, it will be like this, and i will talk about something else, about what or who will be the first to provide the planes. i am sure that it will be the same as before . the united states is showing support and the allies will provide it from the very beginning . russia follows very precisely what the united states does and says, and so let's say it's not the case, you understand this bear, but just to follow the rules of the game, the first ones in the 16th will be provided by the allies, and that's right and then over time it is possible united scale is primarily a signal to the world that you support ukraine ukraine is fighting and needs resources i really liked the words of the american president that planes will be provided so that at a certain military stage they can be killed much further than

now and it's not us, i'm happy because it's possible. another red line drawn by putin will also be destroyed. look and there they emphasized very er they made a propagandist-russian accent on the fact that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyy allegedly arrived when all the issues had already been discussed and they said on the weekend when some of the main topics had already been voiced can you please give them an answer thank you if you allow me i will literally briefly comment, also from your experience , on such diplomatic moments that we could see at the jayson summit. you know , i agree with my colleagues about the very warm communication between the president of the united states

and volodymyr zelenskyi, but i was also very impressed by the shots, they were taken against the light . when the chairman of the european union was actually sitting at the table, when the president of france, the prime minister of canada, other world leaders were sitting. well, they were sitting at a small table in a rather informal environment and communication, and what struck them was that it was important for them to talk with the president of ukraine, to talk about ukraine and to provide this support in every possible way . in other words, we are already going beyond the limits of formal diplomatic communication, yes. relations, one more point that was left out of attention that i would like to emphasize regarding the support of the united states, literally, on tuesday, there was well, in my opinion , one of these events is historic, one of these

events is when the congressional foreign affairs committee supported the resolution of congressmen that signed by more than 25 congressmen regarding the fact that the congress asks president biden and society to support and join the establishment of a special international tribunal, which is one of 10 of the peaceful steps of president volodymyr zelenskyi and for the united states - this is truly a historic event. thank you ms. lesya. lesia is the banned chairperson of the committee on state budget expenditures of the budget committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine . in the context of volodymyr zelenskyi's trip to the fields, they immediately started talking at 16 so that we could talk about training pilots, the truth is that ukrainian pilots will study in great

britain already this summer, he announced this the country's prime minister, rishi sumnak, also emphasized that his country supports the defense of ukraine against russian aggression, according to him . in this way, great britain wants to support the armed forces of ukraine with what they need for the future. he also noted joe biden's support for the international coalition of countries to provide ukraine advanced fighters, we support ukraine in the development of the air force that it needs for the future with great britain, which is training ukrainian pilots starting this summer and we made a real breakthrough at this summit thanks to president biden's support of the international coalition for the provision of f-16 aircraft, mr. ruslana, you also think that this is still a breakthrough. i think for moscow yes, to demonstrate support to the world. this is a breakthrough, but from my point of view, i think that our pilots have been studying for a long time,

preparing before the handover and the decision has already been made about the handover, it’s just that an information company is being run for moscow in order for them to fear and shake me into a conspiracy, we will introduce a war not only on the battlefield because the war is current, it is not only going on even in online yes, but it is accompanied by torrents of information, you see, the russians, for example, use a beauty for this, every day he takes some novy mesto and tells what a good man he is and so on, and we are together every day, he takes a new bakhmut, so i just say because in fact not took and of course the fact that we are such a nightmare excuse

me for the expressions informational russia together with the whole world because it is not only us who speak you understand this is a very interesting informational operation that is being conducted in relation to russia so that it completely trembled later on and it should be her normal state until she surrenders in this war, and i also support the thesis that as for me, i don't know for sure, but i feel, you know, that a lot is happening in our country, it has already happened, and it appears later in the media. fighters of the fourth generation, the president of the united states succinctly and clearly responded to the threats of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia , saying that the alleged provision of f-16 fighter jets to ukraine poses risks. biden really said yes , but only for russia, let's hear

indeed, the delivery of these fighter jets is a colossal risk, as they claim in russia for them, yes, that is, this concern is the escalation, which russian propagandists and piskov say in particular, speaking of putin’s thoughts. here , in reality, all these conversations are conducted only from the point of view of fear of new types of weapons, which can get ukraine in the context of the fact that it can strike deep into the occupied territories, in particular, intercept most types of a-a rocket air e-e objects that terrorize peaceful ukrainians p ruslan yes undoubtedly, the united states is conducting a reasonable strategy from my point of view, in fact, they are consistently increasing technological and destructive weapons more and more compared to how russia is becoming weaker, as it loses its potential, that is, look, we actually started with partisan there are anti-tank weapons and such light portable weapons, and now we will discuss

the f16 - it is a very high-tech device . we could also provoke a nuclear war, so i believe that the strategy of the west and the strategy of biden in this regard is reasonable, as the potential of russia decreases , the potential of ukraine increases and they provide additional such stronger destructive weapons. e address of drobaiden, that’s why, as far as i’m concerned, russia is no longer like a bear, it ’s like that frog that is being slowly cooked in the great kazan, and the united states is really doing it very competently because the world is no longer afraid after six daggers were shot down over kiev with a nuclear attack like before, but still allows this danger and does not want

the world to see such an experience again in the present, that's why i think that hmm this is so succinctly but very aptly conveyed hello to the bunker, let him spend the night and this is not the end, he has to make a decision, as mr. kislytsia said, or as hitler will do, or give up , in particular, about what contacts we had on the fields , right here, they are with countries that, well, probably most of the ukrainians immediately in the first there the five will not be named among the main allies, but only because we probably don't know much about their help, and some even say that more countries actually help us than we recognize, it's just not possible to talk about it officially, ukraine in particular is grateful to korea for its humanitarian and non-lethal assistance , in particular by providing a machine for demining the territory and protective equipment , the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi said about this during a meeting with the president of the republic of korea yunesa-yov

, the meeting also took place as we already noted in the margins themselves right away seven also volodymyr zelenskyy told the korean leader about the situation on the front of the ruslan , but again the circle of diplomatic meetings, although it is just such a circle of countries with which he talks about the war in ukraine, is expanding and how much this affects the overall position of the -e kremlin in relation to the fact that they now have a position that they demand concessions from ukraine if there will be any negotiations in this regard. yes , these are new meetings, new support, even in such small steps as it really is affects the understanding of the situation, that is, the leader of the kremlin. well, i think judging by the propaganda and the propagandists there, if we look at them there, they are in complete hysteria, because they are allies of the united states of america and the united west. they become allies of ukraine and korea in the asia-pacific region plays one of the key roles together with japan

and australia and therefore obtaining such an ally that will include its capabilities and capabilities there are high-tech, we know that korea is one of the countries that are not many of countries that manufacture chips, even on which a modern modern economy stands, plus this weapon of nuclear weapons is extremely technological in south korea, and therefore to have such an ally that will provide you with financial, economic and military support , well, this is undoubtedly hysteria in the kremlin, mr. lezhakov, are you still among the new allies of ukraine, we singled out korea, in particular, we can talk about it in more detail, among those you said that the bear turned into a frog, you were talking about russia, in a word, who is now helping ukraine to boil this russian in a cauldron frog well here it is very important here not only the president still lived in saudi arabia flew so

met and here understood it is important for