yes, poetry. yes, i once again confirm that this is a very serious game, and it was built by the way, when china gradually competed with the russians in something in this region , that is, now it simply becomes less relevant due to the weakening of russia but at the same time, new challenges arise for china, this is a slowdown in economic growth , why did the economic and trade expansion take place, because they have such opportunities due to faster economic growth? and what about the russian war against ukraine now? according to the plan according to the chinese strategy, therefore, it is in the interests of china. well, if they return to the question of war, at any cost , end the war as soon as possible under the conditions that

will be formed. that you are not an expert on china , but i will muster up the strength to ask the following thing that i understand in the policy of the communist party of china , it is not very similar to the unanimity that was in the communist party of the soviet union, and criticism is possible there, internal negotiations are possible they are friendly, but when you say that they are not alike, they are not everywhere. well, you felt the situation well, starting with the fact that here i am absolutely on your side, that they were really careful for many years , what is the power of accumulating potential, and sometime in 10,100 years, we will somehow start playing with muscles

they have now started playing with their muscles, but i am convinced that there are people in the chinese communist party who do not understand this, they can even say these calls. well, how much do you think the unity of china will last for many years because, after all, xizenpin is the enemy in fact dance is the opinion of the founder of modern china, and someone probably remembers it from lunch. well, well, you saw how it happened, you saw the congress that she was taken out of the hall. after all, it is unusual for such a team to be more frank with its diplomacy and to contact and look for some new ideas. at the same time, in front of the bureau , they made a decision whether there is their body, uh, that means uh, it is from seven that they were created, seven people from the highest

such i forgot the bureau it is called i.e they gave more powers to the government in economic policy, but from the point of view of the strategy for taiwan, dengpin convinced them that he is taking on the leadership functions here , and you, in fact, yes, he turned this machine in a slightly different direction, more mineristic , because he well, he even extended his term of stay, however, there are risks for him because if he does not implement his strategy , which he voiced in front of the very influential members of the chinese communist leadership, then he can make a position , but i confirm your opinion that the position is now not only is it important, but more powers were given to this group in the economy, i will tell you more in the period when these powers were

possible to communicate more with chinese comrades and even they had questions well , they saw how putin was failing, questions arose and what about this everything will work out. i will tell you more. i even wrote an article with their consent. you are their party organ, thinking that we will somehow influence their position there. colleagues with chinese language skills also helped, and as a result, everything was great except for one thing: they they said that it was very cool, i just wanted to write that the usa is an enemy, and in general, it is insidious and the worst country in the world, and that’s all , my eh, and under the carpentry genre in chinese there , ginseng has ended, or even in other countries, so you won’t convince me of this

hmm, the anti-american position is tough. by the way, they can lose in this simply because i see how they perceive the very centralized decision-making, which today, in the conditions of such very rapid changes , it plays in china's favor, so i think that we will still see a lot of surprises, and i will tell you let's see if we can check this forecast, what the chinese are proposing to themselves in 20 years, uh, and even closer that they will enter the united states right there and everyone agrees with it, even the united states, i will tell you, the chinese will learn something with such crises and challenges in the future, what others countries have already passed and china has not yet passed, that is why they were quite successful in feeding not only rice but also a piece of meat to their citizens, but the poverty of china is the division of society and that when they will move to the country i hope about their successes there, gdp growth to the middle class, when

it will play a bigger role, then they will have interesting challenges. and the fact that they are already stifling their capitalism. well, what they are and you called the cross, who developed it, understanding that what happened before - it destroyed china, it was almost destroyed by the poor people , all day , the villages are foams , all the new ideas are now coming back, sezinfel is starting to come back. that's how it's gigantic clay legs - this is china and they have foundations. they have a base, there is no stealing on the floors there, technology here, there, listen to the big vk, you and i talked about the fleet. well, this is an aircraft carrier made in ukraine, the only one they have now is floating, but not the only one, the second one built a copy

of the first . okay, thank you very much. thank you very much. headquarters of nagorno-karabakh 92-93 years old erkhan good health thank you for finding time for us, you can speak russian, i will speak ukrainian with yours, i know that you will understand the ukrainian language, come on, congratulations in other languages, i said that i will be with you a journalist who, on january 20, 1990, brought the truth to the world community about the events in baku , it was ukrainian-speaking, russian -speaking, principled, we are talking. okay, i am for it. i am only for thank you. thank you. from the people of azerbaijan , the guys are asking to congratulate you for that truth. someday i will tell you about all of this.

of history and it was 3.5 years ago. oh, don't say orhans. look. well, today, when pashinyan agreed to actually return the situation to the year 90 or to the year 89, we can say whether this means that azerbaijan won or whether it means that the armenians understood wrong in their policy after they seized the azerbaijani territories in fact olena mykola if with international law with turkey with israel pakistan i.e. nuclear pakistan and uh, so to speak, building a good army, a high-quality good army, a modern army

and its truth what the armenians finally thank god there is a democratic government, there is a smart prime minister , and he understands all this, that either he will stay and the armenian people can stay away from the world . -he takes the right steps and he realizes that time and time actually eh make this eh agreement reconciliation agreement everything else for a long time that is, there is both this and that part this part i.e. on the battlefield eh victory and that of international law there is truth according to azerbaijanis and what will washington and brussels say and what will they do with friendship

with israel and turkey and pakistan ? the fact that russia lost the south caucasus because we see the sentiments that next we will have a guest from georgia, we see that azerbaijan long ago began to have its own policy . there is ambiguity now in the river armenia because in fact russia has shown its inability either by military means or diplomatically because russia, despite the fact that everything can be signed in moscow or now, as they say in chisinau, but

no matter what, russia has already shrunk very much and everything remains georgia where the government is for moscow , and the people are against moscow. and then all three caucasian republics will become truly independent, both formally and factually, did i understand it correctly , you understood it correctly, but azerbaijan's policy in in this case, it is flexible, it is connected with moscow. in this case, the government is forced to listen to the people of azerbaijan and in georgia, the same picture, that is, it is a matter of time if even the government will be more flexible , more plastic before russia, and another thing is that the peoples of our caucasus understand that it is necessary to build horizontal relations, that is, friendship will be international, that is

, direct people's diplomacy will win in this case, so that russia will do nothing in our region, and it will solve this issue god will grant that the armed forces of ukraine will push a little more and we will see how this russia will remain a wet place, in particular , see also this is the most important topic that is now heard everywhere, what can be said about the armenian future of the armenian minority, eh, in azerbaijan, we can say very good words but we understand that in order for there not to be those armenians who hate azerbaijanis in karabakh and azerbaijanis hate those armenians, and when this energy is negative

, there must be some legal ones. i just can't imagine how to achieve the absence of excesses on the surface areas of azerbaijan, so that the armenians do not suffer there, so that they can somehow feel free, free and reliable. mykola , in fact, the people are wiser than we think. the word hatred is a russian narrative of hatred as such. as if there is no global understanding, there is no thousand-year-old understanding. there are people who actually lost their loved ones. people lost their homes

. as they say, there are such cases. on the part of the azerbaijani people to the armenians of karabakh, there is no hatred, if there is hatred there, it is connected with the fact that they feel part of the russian empire, and god willing, it will happen in the near future, and it is artificially imposed, there are some problems and the peoples will come to an agreement, the people are actually wiser these are ancient peoples who will agree with each other, we lived together, didn't you, when i was introduced, i'm from there, how do you know what to say, russia is now doing against ukraine, if there were no such operations, there would be battles in trenches, that is, on populated areas

there were cases of the population and it was sad and they said although but i was, that is, there were cases well, in fact, such global things, what can cause the whole people, there were no family ties and they are somewhere even outside azerbaijan or armenia, and some friendships are good that armenians and azerbaijanis meet and find common ground in our media space, the international media space, let's say, in those youtube channels , meet and find common ground . in fact, all happiness is imposed on everyone by hatred from moscow, russia, people wiser, i think so, i know what kind of people, that is, i was born and grew up there, that is, i know our armenians. i know that it can be negotiated . the main thing is that it should be such a platform , a place where they can sit down and talk about the fact

that there are azerbaijani armenians in baku, you know and this is not a secret that 30,000 live in vermekodia, the armenian church, and in karabakh , which armenians will adopt, let's say, the constitution of the law of azerbaijan, be provided with everything, and i tell you as a resident from there, that is, those years , the 80s, they lived better than azerbaijanis that is, karabakh in itself is a paradise in karabakh, there are all the possibilities. the main thing is to be law-abiding citizens, well, that is, they can learn the armenian language, they will have textbooks , there will be schools, theaters, churches, that is, these principles will not be muslimized in any way. this moment is very important to understand how, how, sir, when

i will try to explain to you, you know why israel is such a great friend of azerbaijan. that is why the israeli army handed over weapons to azerbaijan that it only uses because azerbaijan is the only country besides israel that is compact jews live there, yes, yes, that is, if there is a tezh slave nearby, it is a muslim country, if we find a common language with the jews, that is, as faithful jews, we are full-fledged citizens, and it represents us as citizens in a direct, good sense . of these words, that is, who are the armenians preventing us from doing this, for the armenians to have all the conditions, mr. president aliyev, and on international platforms and in the circle and in his local e-e

briefings, addresses, i think in the negotiations , pastina talks about this, and if we are also interested, you know, no one chose his own nationality and everything else. that is, in this sense, we have nothing to do with them there, if there were, uh, there was no separatism and military confrontation , military confrontation, you and you are a very experienced journalist, that is, there were none of your negotiations, there was a shootout from that side, two died from this two sides were killed , some men were wounded, uh, negotiations in brussels, there is a firefight again, and in moscow, when the negotiations are going on, there are no firefights, that is, what comes out of the karabakh armenians, that is, the leaders mean the leaders of the karabakh armenians have the same customs, that is, they depend on moscow. moscow, when they speak, they shoot. moscow, if they don’t speak, they don’t

shoot, and they made themselves a political power and the unfortunate armenian people , who are several tens of thousands there, and they depend on us, that is, what is happening in donbas, that is and the same picture , that is, a simple ukrainian or russians in donbas , that he is already a hostage, there are some measures, right , that is the same picture, that is the same there, that is, these are negotiations, that is, in this case, he is glad in the sense that the armenians are such a government, it is a smart government, it understands the future of the country, it is worried about the future of the country, because in fact, even armenian sources say that the armenians were strong and developed when they were friends with the turkic world, uh, which is from all sides, you can even say thank you i'm very sorry, i'm sorry, mr. irkhan. thank you for the broadcast

in our country, georgia, but there will be a short break , uh, a break, not a break, a break, but just, well , i have to explain, because elkhanuriyev said that i am a great friend of the azerbaijani people by chance, i immediately say that we have so much heroism, but it’s just that i managed to take out a lot of films, uh, during the fall of russia in the caucasus, russian troops went to the side and killed a lot of people, just bloody asphalt was bloody all over as far as i remember this yes, it was in january of the 1990s, and they just shot people. when various uprisings began in all the suburbs of the soviet zone, the struggle for independence began in georgia, the baltic states, the azerbaijanis, and

so on and so on. they just handed me cassettes, that is, there were such things. which they were called tapes and they said here you are a journalist, you can set it up somewhere, i will confess right away if i hadn’t drunk and i before the flight in those days because i would be afraid i am still afraid but somehow now i am already struggling with it and then i didn’t struggle i was just a sheepdog oh and if i hadn't drunk that glass, i would have been scared to transport across the soviet border cassette tapes with recordings of the murders. oh, and i. i flew through my brain. then everything flew through moscow. no planes flew in from kyiv or there from baku or from yerevan or stalin and and i really put this tapes

i forgot about my suitcase, well, the border guards were looking after the customs officers there, i don't know what kind of hibistas or who was there at the time . well, there were really a lot of people and everyone was watching so intently because the soviet union was so serious there was such an organization, and on the third or second day i arrived in london put things away and went to sleep, then woke up, went for a walk around london back and forth, had lunch there somewhere in a restaurant and started to lay things out and saw these three or five someone's tapes, shorter, there was a complete set of everything that was produced by the russian troops, the soviet troops in baku well, it was certainly possible to have friends among the ukrainian diaspora, and the diaspora was always friends with each other, that is, the ukrainian knew what azerbaijani was, azerbaijani knew what

armenian was in those days, there were others, other things, and somehow it all got on the air at that time, in a shorter way, someone about it found out and began to use these tapes and some azerbaijanis knew about it that this was the first leak of the real situation in baku , the real behavior of the soviet troops, it is no different from the situation in buch, by the way whether in vorzel or in kyiv region or in e.e. kherson region or in kharkiv region, there is not much. that is, it is approximately the soviet army , it is approximately the russian army today too . they drove and shot. that was it. you can’t imagine that the footage is so terrible, that is, in azerbaijan, they are like now they put carnations in their place, it means death

and it was just part of the street they didn’t have time to wash just tens of meters in blood and part of the street is covered in these red carnations and at first you can’t understand if it’s blood or if it’s carnations sorry, you can there are no such in ukrainian i don't know such and such a flower, but this one is just what i remember. it's just several layers of layering and it's tens if not hundreds of meters of these red carnations along the central streets, absolutely terrible shots, but now we know about it from our own experience a-a thank you for listening to everything i'm moving on to the normal course of our journalistic life georgiy jakhaya founder of the sukhumi internet publication info here i definitely have

to speak here i definitely have to speak in russian right or wrong good evening in ukrainian is not necessary i want everyone to understand 100 %. and look here, sukhumi info, how is your fate sukhumi, if ukraine knocks on wood defeats russia, we just talked with the azerbaijani criminal who said , well, russia wants from the caucasus, this is already visible from everything, we know that the georgian people are a-a very much how to say it the georgian people and the georgian government are two big differences, as they say in odessa, in the ukrainian tor russia, there is no place, but what to do sobhaziy, this is

only because i want to return to my home in the document, in the second case, i papin georgia, i say something another country to get out, all the perezhynts who left their time and abkhazia, they are trying to return there, someone can return you 7 million ways, someone can't, only in the photos you can see the juice, but in everyone's heart , this is our family, a small family of abkhazia well, this is what the war will be, or how is it, how is it possible, but the abkhaz don’t like georgians very much

, they don’t talk much about the fact that they were crushed a lot. there are some of them i don't know how now there were some russian bases there a-ah what now and how is it possible to reconcile these two peoples on the territory of georgia, it is impossible, that is, there, of course, 30 years have been working russian propaganda mockery propaganda well, it must be said that the huskies do not have a military issue solutions, that is, there is enough for the second relief, there is another situation , and it is difficult to return , that is, nothing is impossible, three different ones are nearby, but in this case, friends at the time, even after 2008, she declared that she is not

putin will return the occupied territories militarily and continues his policy of peaceful reunification with the occupied territories. well, the attitude of the georgians has already changed . they come and get treatment . the same process follows the difference in the situation with the chimeral region , there is no registration there, there is no movement and there are no mutual relations with the georgians, and i will find out with them. well, i think that after ukraine returns its own copper territory will come to the georgian occupied territories and russia will certainly not yet sooner or later i hope that this will happen well here is an important question this is the negotiation well this must be

agreed so that the obkhazy die of their school i don't i know my textbooks , they will not want to dissolve in georgia, as always. this is how we , how georgians dissolved in the soviet union , how ukrainians did not dissolve in the soviet union . that is how they became independent, but then it is necessary to create this system of autonomy somehow. reliable, so that the obkhazians say, ok, this kind of autonomy is suitable for us . in general, you will obey us and your word, we do not give you the right to vote , this moment is somehow discussed in general in

tbilisi . sex voluntarily if not voluntarily, what is the nature of state politics in this direction? no, but we can say that in abkhazia, which seem to have received non -dependence, the abkhazian language is disappearing , that is, today, it seems that they are not independent, but they have everything separately the production is in the russian language, there is the russian language, the young people have spread as much as possible because the huskies were preserved at the time when they lived in the villages in the majority of the world and gradually . and they became city dwellers, and the abkhazian language began to disappear there, and today, ah , the youth lacks each other already