tv [untitled] May 26, 2023 10:30pm-11:01pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] the moment is somehow discussed in general in tbilisi . we can say that uh, in abkhazia, which seems to have received non-dependencies, this husky language is disappearing today, that is, today, they seem to be not dependent, but their production is all in russian , and there the russian language of the youth is spread as much as possible because in husky preserved while they lived in the villages for the most part and after the war they settled in the cities , how would georgians know them
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? young people do not talk to each other in russian, i am the most connected on the internet , i communicate on instagram, and i constantly see that they speak russian to each other. georgia is doing a lot to preserve the abkhazian language here, textbooks are printed they are sent there to abkhazia, it is necessary to say that even 90% of the documentary programs that are held in abkhazia by occupying russia in kharkov are financed through international organizations that help the development of commentary programs . they are financed by international organizations
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, they are financed with the permission continues to live in around 40-50,000 georgians, who at one time in the 1990s were driven out of their homes by the akazis and became refugees. the products of these georgians were returned to the kachel district, which is close to the georgian a-a and to the lviv district, and there they continue to live compactly and work on the earth there, they produce agricultural products, but their progeny are practically protected , they do not have abkhazian citizenship, that is according to ukrainian laws, the residence of a person who is guilty of something in front of the law has the right to prednazhitelstva, and there you are, you stand as a deportee and leave without any court
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, and the consequence is that they can write everything. all at any moment and here is georgia because of the fact that it has such a lipiral policy in relation to the phase of it and the fact that 90% of humanitarian programs are financed through the police, this is how it practically does not use pressure on the abkhaz government in order to to protect these georgian residents posters well, in principle, there is a movement, there are some programs when georgians are involved in general projects from a and participates well, of course, this does not bring the return of abkhazia very close, but they will not allow us to not lose contacts between georgians harps georgy
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such an autonomous and simple adjara flourished in batumi when when he when there was direct control when saakashvili returned everything, as it were, to full control under the full control of georgia droughts such a same future can expect that is where to find m.m investments где найти деньги как состоять because when you compare today, here is batumi, which has returned as if in full-blooded full-blood to georgia, it is simply a masterpiece of modern architecture, beaches, restaurants, and dry houses, which, in general, it is something like this impression when you look at the footage that the bombing ended yesterday, houses killed dead roads dead sanatoriums hotels everything is in such a deplorable condition that means it
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’s still going to be restored somehow there are some plans someone is thinking about how it can be who can pay the french or the americans or some georgians already have it, they have money, they are ready to invest and build a paradise on earth , which was dry even under soviet power , about how it will develop afterwards, and for example, i am against the way concrete poems are being built there jungles on the brass league , or that is, there are many areas where there were beaches
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, and they built buildings near the embankment, that is, they expanded it very much. they built a lot of concrete jungles. they live there, they have a view of the sea, and now, of course, everything is being built. it’s good, this new investment, it’s jobs , it’s tourists, that is, there are a lot of karposov , they built apartments there, tourists come , there are many free places, they can settle freely, and it’s very developed tourism in abkhazia in its the time once began to develop obkazyvat very much with a cigarette and very much they were jealous, as if to give us a direction, they said that to grow, we should do it all, and all the time they said that why are you not building? there is nothing restore what we saved it and let russia come to us it a-a repair two buildings they all think that someone is in the place no it should be done and in principle nothing has changed today who is building you, too , russian citizens who invest
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money there themselves they work, but they have share holders, the post office there is impossible to take the land there, it is not the king of abkhazia, and there are so many different schemes to circumvent the law, and for example , the land is registered in abkhazia, the land is actually used by the russians, that is, for example, one village of varcha where all the georgians lived, the entire village was demolished after the georgians were expelled, and there are decrees and now russian military pensioners buy the land and arrange it for the security of the people themselves, and officially someone registered a refusal there but in fact it belongs to a russian they are difficult and the most russians are not even going to invest there, they are not talking about the fact that some
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americans or french will go to the construction of some projects there for the whole season, the only thing that is being built is that it is being built. the state gives a guarantee that there will be some kind of income from the rapper, for example, there was such a case, there was such a case, a russian businessman who found out that in the raphaze they will begin to change the structure of the water pipeline. pipe and took it as usual, er, er, daughter, i'm in my destiny, it's a beautiful day , they threw him out of business, they attributed the plant entirely to themselves, and this plant continued
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to work on the russian investment program, but the money was received by caucasian businessmen. that's how many options there are. that's where business takes place and that's why business doesn't go there sumy thanks to georgy jahaya, founder of the online publication suhom info, we talked about the abkhazians first of all, we won't forget that may 26 is georgia's independence day. that's it , so to speak, and today's part is dedicated to georgia. i love it very much georgia today has such a strange program in the sense that i have things in which i took part, here was azerbaijan with those films that i sent to london at the time , but from abkhazia i met georgians who
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were fleeing from abkhazia from abkhazia and russians and a lot of people died in sukhumi because of the mountains then and even then the ukrainian authorities gave 16 helicopters that took these people out of the mountains. it just snowed in the mountains. it usually snowed in that one. i think it was in october. they are not warm there in october, but in this one. people simply froze and we met all of them, they were put in this helicopter and taken out further there in kutaisi, and i made several flights quite unpleasantly because they were shooting in the mountains then and even so well, in short, when you are a military correspondent, they can always kill us, we will not hide this moment well, when you are a correspondent or a journalist , well, sometimes you find yourself in such a situation. i am now asking
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if we already have a desk. thank you for finding the time for us and we have a question for you just in time. by the way , as a doctor of philosophy in the first place, and not as an archimandrite , this is the postponement of the holidays - it is there from october 14 to october 1. now when we talk about christmas then we had been discussing for many years, maybe in the kitchens, yes, that is, even before all the events in kyiv , where i live there. well, maybe two he is there 24 by 25 is
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cool and let's go. maybe yes, but why is it necessarily on the seventh, then it's closer to today events on something, like the russians, let's separate ourselves from the point of view of how to say the church of churches, not ukrainian non-orthodox churches of ukraine, but simply churches , this is a normal situation when some church says, well , we won't be like that now. and from the church you have to listen to what he says society, but simply, have there been such cases in the history of the churches and how was it treated? was it difficult, difficult, or was it easy and people agreed immediately
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? i mean the secular calendar, the civil calendar, it was also created by the church, it was. this is it, it came to replace the calendar that was adopted in the roman empire . introduced to calculate the years from the birth of christ so the church established and arranged to a large extent those cycles that form the basis of the current calendar and this reshaped the calendar itself, the so-called new style gregorian calendar. why is it called gregorian because it was introduced by the catholic e- is the catholic church and st. gregory , and this calendar is actually named in his honor. and by the way, when in our country the new style is sometimes called the new
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julian calendar, it is for this purpose. just not to mention the name of the pontiff of rome potifika, but the emperor julius caesar is still mentioned. so, the church has always been involved in the formation of calendars. and this is absolutely normal. that the church itself adapts to new realities. under the new calendar. and the fact is that the decision made by the orthodox church of ukraine made a similar decision. the majority of other orthodox churches at the beginning of the 20th century , when the majority of local churches and autocephalous churches switched to this gregorian calendar or the new style, as we sometimes call it, and most orthodox churches, they currently celebrate christmas on december 25, other holidays, which are fixed cycles, calendar cycles, they celebrate them in a new style, and the orthodox church of ukraine simply joined most
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other orthodox churches, while leaving the opportunity for those who want to celebrate in the old style, to do it as it suits them. i think this is a reasonable decision, father. then i have this for you. well, now it's definitely a more philosophical question. look at what i imagine. this is what the orthodox churches would are less inclined to reform and if we simplify it very widely and simplify it as much as possible, then these are the catholic ones - these are the ones who were more likely to reform , yes, and it is not for nothing that they call the orthodox churches orthodox, that is, if they remained basically in the first century, well, conditionally who is
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our era, yes and but we we see some kind of drift, one way or another, we just see it, you know, i can say something now, someone will not like it very much, but i see it. at the beginning of the 90s, when i saw that the ukrainian orthodox church of the kyiv patriarchate began to apologize to look neater, just not such long beards, yes they are. if they had come to their senses, they had clean clothes. and i began to notice it, and they were smiling and no longer criticized. if you don’t know something there, the moscow part was just so orthodox with healthy beards and so on, in principle we can to talk about i correctly understand that the drift is still what side may be autocephalous may be the orthodox church will remain more orthodox but still
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the road leads to some i don't like this word, but even under the communists it was very loved to some of christian communism well, because communism was christian in soviet times, it was kagibism, more communism, but something that unites churches. did i just dream of this? they correctly noticed that the orthodox church is quite inert in changes, but it is not means that changes are happening, they are happening in reality. of course, they are not happening so quickly and not so consciously, as , for example, in protestant churches , protestant churches, they uh-uh took as a basis uh-huh, the basis of the fact that the church is changing and the slogan of martin luther, which founded against statism, he was such that here is the equation sm-reformat where the church is always reforming all the time changing, we took as a basis the opposite to this
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principle that the church never changes but in fact it changes and uh it continues to change and you already see uh you even noticed uh during the time that you observed the life of the sickle these changes are happening they are even more large-scale uh on a longer period of time ah and ah what we see now uh- e in, let's say, the coexistence of two the churches in ukraine, specifically the orthodox church of ukraine, the autocephalous church and the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, in fact we will see that they differ not only in their locality and self-governance, they also differ to a large extent in their attitude to change . the orthodox church of ukraine is the youngest orthodox church of ukraine. traction from er-er from the ancient horse church, but er-er it was actually founded in the 18th year at
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the unification cathedral in december of the 18th year and well most of its bishoprics are younger, they have a more open, er, open view of things and this is reflected in the decisions of this church , it is more open to society, it is more open to changes, and this is er, in my opinion, positive, and despite the fact that they realize that there is also a request for a certain conservatism, probably inertia, let's say in ukrainian society, there are bishops there, nikola, who are quite conservative and quite uh, such who, let's say, are wary of changes. and the ukrainian orthodox church is currently more conservative, and because of the position of the superior metropolitan onufriy, because of the position of the majority of the episcopate, etc. by the way, this explains to a large extent the attachment of this church, let's say, to those traditions of russian orthodoxy which it inherited, this is part of this
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conservative program of this church to remain faithful and because what remains in our historical memory and in their historical memory remains precisely their connection with the russian orthodox church, and the bird, but you know, from imagination, here i just started a small friendly discussion with you, but i understand yes, this is the attraction to traditions, to such an establishment of such conservatism, healthy or less healthy or more healthy, but the tendency is already obvious that the fate, i will say very gently, the fate of the russian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, i will say it in the russian word is unenviable, we can already see that they are from the middle they simply arise, they simply wash away the essence and contents
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, the form of nothing else remains, and you have to somehow react to it because you remained somewhere aside . well, at least in such blatant moments as that onufry did not condemn the annexation of the berdyan diocese, which well, it's just, well, it's just out of your pocket, you and vladyka, out of your pocket, if people were taken out of your pocket, if not , something, no, no, no, no, no , no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. i'm not a church person, i don't know, he can say something in words, he can say something in documents. okay, let them remain somehow the same as yesterday and the day before yesterday, but the world is changing, as you rightly said, and we need to react somehow now, listen if up to 15% according to polls continue to support
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moscow patriarchate there were times that 80 as they say, feel the difference, this is your body, yours, yours. well, i have no people . there is no church . what kind of church is there, and there are no people? do they not understand that what is this conservatism? excuse me for using the word "durist" and not "conservatism ". it is a certain belief in conservatism, which they believe will allow them to survive. and does not respond adequately to the challenges of the times, first of all, on the higher sabers, and this causes division within this church , because from below, and the parishioners, many parishioners and priests understand that there are problems and they turn to them. they try to reach the door to the bishop, but not
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it always turns out well, i have to tell you what about the recent event that you mentioned, the annexation or raiding of the berdyan diocese, which belonged to the uoc, by the russian orthodox church, where at the synod in moscow it was decided to re-re-subordinate this one the party directly in the moscow patriarchate is still weak. but the uoc reacted, they made, let's say, the extreme four priests who, as it were, took the initiative to join this party to moscow and were banned from ministry, banned by the decision of the ukrainian bishop, the bishop who belongs to the uoc mp, but that's all one thing, you know, the shooters are punished for those who simply do not give answers , the problem in itself remains unsolved.
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does not respond adequately to the general challenges facing ukrainian society and to the challenges facing this church itself, you can do it, then you can look at the last question, but the important one is the dependence of the church on the state, which is in russia, is simply always there is always there. well, in the end, among of orthodox christian churches, it will be one unique church where the church will really depend on the state, and because in the end only muslims there, the state depends on the church, but the church does not depend on the state , for example, what to do with this, the church is everywhere everyone knows the whole world, you know that it is separated from the state, and in russia, it is not separated according to the russian constitution, it is also separated from the state, but this one helps, well, here
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the problem seems to me to be more deep and global. it has to do with the traditions of eastern christianity, which date back to the time of constantine and the emperor constantine in the fourth century eh connected with the state and became part of the state apparatus of the imperial apparatus of the apparatus and this is what is called the genes of eastern christianity and is transmitted through these genes from from church to church so i have to say that ukraine has a similar problem, and all ukrainian churches are also of the eastern eastern tradition. they also have a little bit of this or that. ah, i have to say that the cpsu, by the way, now shows less of such a dependence, indeed, the cpsu completely depended on the kremlin and
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actually became part of the kremlin, so this is probably one of the most radical, most advanced forms of this symphonicness tradition is to have a complete merger with the state, well, it is precisely in russia that it is observed in russia in general the same trends that in other contexts they have such er not very strong forms in russia they acquire radical forms and precisely the combination of church and state has a very radical form in fact now, the last question of mr. father is the fate , uh, will the russian orthodox church disappear in russia, because of the behavior of today and those, i hope, transformations, which will be forced , which will russia be forced to leave there because of
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the civil war, because of the disintegration, there are definitely part of some percentage of the church's fault yes, you are right and uh well, the first conclusion is that it is requested that this will probably lead to such a greater secularization of society, you know, we recently talked about this topic with one of the leading american sociologists, american sociologist jose kazanovy, he is already a professor there from the university, he himself will burn by origin, but he speaks pure ukrainian with a galician accent, even his wife, a ukrainian, spoke, he is so small, until a second we have nothing left to talk about, what am i i want to say, he said. he spoke about the example of spain, where franco was there, where the church supported franco, it did not affect the fate of the church, the churches recovered in some form, it will probably recover in russia too. but we do not know in what form, and it is obvious that the russian church must pass through what changes due to catharsis thank you very much archimandrey kyril-horodna doctor of philosophical sciences professor of stockholm university college was with us thank you for finding time for us and i
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