[000:00:00;00] throw the occupation administration well, they are in principle, i think that one way or another these people are conscious, they just have some common sense , they understand what happened, that russia simply destroyed their city, but well, in principle , even here again. they recently published with pride wrote that half of the population of mariupol has returned or lives there in mariupol, but this is half of the population. that is, there were 460,000 now, even if they are telling the truth, and i doubt it, if even 230 are there. and another 230. what are these people, whom did you kill? evicted those who have nowhere to return to because their homes simply disappeared. life there is simply terrible. i remember literally in the fall there, huge fires raged and the wind spread the fire, and people did not know how to put out this fire except to go to the sea and collect water there and somehow on their own to pour water on their one-story houses because they are tall, you can't help

them, they just burned, and they at least tried to save the private residential sector by bringing water from the sea with their own cars , because they called the fire brigade, the fire brigade did not they answered - they didn't answer because they simply weren't there in fact, and in such conditions, when there is no water, there is no light, people put huge sheets in the windows, you know , where they write sos, they turned off the water, turned off the light , people live here, and so on. and it seems to me that these people just they don't let you leave, because living in such conditions is voluntary, well, it's very difficult to imagine going there or here, or to russia, or to ukraine, anywhere, but living in such conditions is simply unreal. well, it seems to me that they are simply not released there, you know in fact, i thought a lot about that. so, i also thought a lot of things were unreal. what happened in reality? yes, and what is more than our imagination, but it turned out that people can live in this reality, and

this, for example, is not so much about mariupol and imagination. so even now there are two thousand people living there, they say, although this is a city in which hostilities are actually going on, people are constantly flying in and there are hundreds of people who stayed there in bahmut , but the former went to fight, so they sat in basements, including with children, and not recently there was a russian plot. by the way, there are already some propagandists about the fact that a baby was born in bakhmat, there are such people who lived in the basement for six months and did not leave the basement , that is, there are different people, very different, and it is often very difficult to believe that people can it is impossible to live there even in spite of such conditions, it is impossible to understand, for example, for people who have some common sense, but it turns out that there are people for whom moving somewhere, moving out of their hometown from their native apartment is scarier than dying, i.e.

they are ready to live under shelling and die. it is better for them than going to lutsk, for example, or some other city that they don’t know, where they haven’t been, where they don’t know anyone. it’s just a much more scary stress for them, and that’s it. there are many such people in donbass and in mariupol. we also see it, but i don't know. he doesn't have information about fires. what is there? yes, it was such a large-scale phenomenon, but i can say that, for example , mariupol actually survived the winter without communication, that is, in most of the city was not light well, of course, about heating, i’m not talking about water there. there was nothing, that is, people lived in these ruins there, they covered the windows with cardboard blankets, er, someone had small pots there, someone warmed himself on bonfires and cooked food in the courtyards. that is, this is such a post-apocalypse and they didn't go well, because that's how i understand it, the poorest people who simply have nowhere to go, who don't have relatives, who simply didn't pierce their noses according to their nature

. they stayed there, they didn't go anywhere because of course, who wanted to, they left, or even who went to russia, who to ukraine who to europe uh, they agreed in europe to everyone there, in one way or another, they paid some kind of minimal assistance, well, no one died of hunger among those who left , i am not aware of such cases. including people who died there due to the lack of help due to diseases there and the lack of medical care as such in their cities, there are many such cases and they, i'm sorry , literally wanted to clarify one thing, they demolished it together with the bones of those people whose they buried under the remains of this building on which they dropped air bombs, obviously yes well, but there is another option. maybe they just took these bones away earlier and then destroyed them, but one way or another they actually destroyed the physical evidence of their crime, that is

, they destroyed i look at which they dropped an air bomb and well accordingly, there is no building, there is no evidence at all of what happened there. they actually said, one of the versions of russian propaganda, that it was azov that blew itself up from the middle. that is, well, some kind of madness, yes. you know, word against word, we say yes, and you say yes, and there is no evidence because it does not exist , the hundreds of thousands of graves that appeared in mariupol will no longer serve. yes, they are simply graves, in fact the whole city turned into a cemetery because you correctly said that there are graves to which bodies were taken and which were found under the rubble, which were buried or which were buried in the yards, when people first buried their neighbors or

relatives, they were then reburied and dug up the old crimea was taken to this cemetery, and for example, a lot of bodies were simply left in those houses. for example, people burned down. there is a house standing right there that was completely burned . everything that was in it was burned. there are photos and videos where it was written right in the entrances on the doors that two skulls and bones were found in this apartment , that is, but no one conducts an examination , who does it belong to? yes, who lived there? and of course there it's just that when these houses are demolished, they are demolished simply with the remains of people with all this, and the approximate number of dead in mariupol is known. no, the russians won't admit it, they admitted a few thousand there, but that's a ridiculous number, frankly, they tell me that it could be up to 100,000 well, it's called very different numbers, well, they said that from 20,000, 20,000 is actually

5% of the city's population. well, considering what happened there, and i think that it could easily have been 10,000, that is, the number 20 - 40,000, i think it's very realistic, well, that's actually by 90%, that's right more numbers are possible and more, but still, i think that realistically it is from 5 to 10% of the population , these are people who were killed right there . it happened in dnipro, but in uman, when a whole house collapses and then this rescue operation takes place and who else is found there alive under the rubble. in mariupol , this did not happen, that is, when the house fell , there were no services that could come and dismantle the rubble, people under them shouted and could they screamed for a day or two and then they just died because there was no help, no one took it apart, and now again, these rubbles are just being collected, loaded into some truck, taken away and somewhere else called, that is, together with what

you can, there are no bodies left, they are all rotted and the remains of the bones just fell in there. that is, there is nothing to understand who is there and just a huge number of people. they disappeared, well, they went missing and they were not found and they simply will not have a grave, that is, and that is why it is really worth assessing the entire amount it is possible only in one way, if we imagine that, for example, some commission from ukraine will sit there from the former former authorities of mariupol, which existed there before the war . yes, and all such places, for example, which is now controlled by the occupying mariupol, and they will start, but since there is no such thing no one can establish that. well, after the victory, somehow we have to do it . and of course, this is a terrible crime, which can simply be compared with what happened at one time there during the german occupation with

the jews. in fact, russia is doing the same with made, read in books, a terrible story in a documentary chronicle of those events, and now we encounter these elements, the story of a terrible crime, which is especially terrible because, for example, it can be compared to bakhmut , there are also such crazy battles, bakhmut is also totally destroyed, even more than mariupol, in fact, but bakhmuti, people had the opportunity to leave, they left this corridor and the population gradually. by the way, as hostilities approached, the population left. mariupol was blocked in a matter of days and the russian army blocked it in, well, in fact, in the blockade of assad, and people could not simply leave . that is, they were first blocked from this opportunity, and then they were destroyed methodically in this place, as if in a trap.

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for example, to the residents of donetsk, they they told that mariupol is not ukraine, mariupol is the so-called dpr , and we will release him, and this is how they think it is, and the people who live in donetsk released him. they are not blind, they are not stupid, they should actually see the truth that we are talking about now russia can lie on its television as much as it wants, but it is impossible to hide it from the residents of the donetsk region. is there an epiphany of the people who live there , do they see it or do they continue to listen to radio and television and do not see reality look, there are very different people . well, i can say that russia is telling because this topic

is very well known to me. it comes to me in the comments and there and on instagram and on youtube no no no no there is only one motive ukrainians killed themselves that is they say what why mariupol was destroyed and because azov means he sat in the houses together with the people and took everything hostage the population of mariupol is all 400,000 people and he was hiding behind their backs himself, but when the high-rise buildings were being built, azov blew them up . azov blew up the drama theater himself. well, i don't know why he liked it so much, but they took it and blew up the drama theater , and well, this is constantly and they constantly say that, they destroyed bakhmut yes, it’s a pity, there’s no city, but it’s all because of ukraine. if the ukrainians just took it and left the city themselves, they handed it over to the russians. then everything would have been fine . bakhmut would have remained intact. but if these rockets hadn’t been shot down, their debris wouldn’t have killed people.

in your houses, let the rocket hit where they were flying and everything will play out, all the houses in ukraine are being destroyed . when a rocket kills 40 people there, it's the ukrainian air defense that just shot down the missile. it's our own fault that we're shooting at ukraine - it's bullshit. that's what our army besieged mariupol and bombarded it there with airplanes and heavy artillery as they wanted, it's all bullshit, ours means they shot exclusively at the military there. and when you see all the destruction, the victims are all exclusively ukrainians. people simply believe the majority of people. well, let's say supporters of russia . yes, it's actually easier for them to think that way. that is, they were offered some version of events and well, it's the russians themselves. steel, i mean, but there are people there in general who, well, do not work no. but there are still people who , well, there they have a higher education, they go to work there, they work with technology. that is, it assumes that they have some level of intelligence. yes, and they

have to understand well, what actually happened that their army is war criminals, their president is a man who is responsible for the deaths of a hundred thousand people, these are peaceful soldiers, ukrainian soldiers, russian soldiers, that is, they are criminals, russia is doing the same thing that hitler's germany did there in the 1930s, when it first attacked czechoslovak poland under those with the very slogans that these are not real states there, the germans need to protect the germans, unite the historical german lands, everything is the same as what russia is saying now, they also see it, but they , well, it is difficult psychologically to admit that uh, my the country is actually a nazi country, my country is committing such terrible crimes, my country is actually committing mass genocide for the first time since the second world war, yes, what can be compared with the holocaust, and they are just ?

they shoot it all to themselves well, that's how they perceive it in 1996, how russia fed us stories about chechen terrorists when they stormed grozny and we watched television and thought well, really look terrorists captured the city of grozny, they hold the whole country, and then we began to understand what was really happening there. well, and what concerns donbas directly, yes , you know, it is very difficult to say what the mood is in donbas, because there have been no measurements for 10 years no research, and all we know about the donbass is, well, some propagandist stamps from the russian side, yes, or well, you can take some research into the comments in the telegram channels, instead of groups. well, i see that there are, of course, well, a large number of people who accurately perceives what is happening, they do not perceive the occupation, they do not perceive russia, they are one way or another either for ukraine or there

against russia, well, it is difficult for them to formulate their views, but they are definitely against the fact that now there are also a lot of such people. we simply cannot determine their percentage and we can't measure it in any way, they don't show themselves, these people, yes, well, how can they do it, you know such a sad anecdote that according to surveys there, in auschwitz, everyone 100%, er, agreed that the conditions you have are he good, yes. that is, people are hostages in the occupied territory there, even if you simply interview people on the streets and they are there in the soul. for ukraine, no one will confess to a stranger, and this is because i know that they will come and simply lock them in the basement and kill them they will be punished there and so on and that's why we can't say, but i know for sure that people can't perceive it positively, this is what's happening, this is the destruction of donbas and well , literally, today yes, i see that even the russians themselves recognize it, it's there

slides yes, for example, strilkov and there he is there he gave another interview, and he says what he says, the only actual result of this special operation, as of now, is the destruction of donbas, that is, the donbas is the richest region in runes, and there is nothing left of the bahmut, and it's true. well, you can't help but see that yes, you can be there as much as you want, and try to shift the responsibility to ukraine , but there is an iron-and-concrete fact that cannot simply be denied before the russian army invaded and came and started a war, and mariupol was all over there, no one was killed, no ukrainians no azov there fascists over it no well there was nothing there people lived a peaceful and calm life bakhmut was whole maryinka was whole and volnovakha the north donets can be listed for a long time i.e. the destruction of these cities mass victims the destruction in general the life of all living things in this territory began after that

as putin announced a special operation and punitive troops have the right to go there , you can invent anything else, say that the ukrainians are shooting there, blowing up something, but so that it does not happen after february 24 in the 22nd year, these are already the consequences of what putin did in the 24th year. it’s great that they turn the facts around and talk about the fact that it was you who bombed the donbass for 8 years. well, of course, it sounds simple. yes, this is a meme, and it sounds absolutely ridiculous and absurd. but they are real. people who don't live in donbas and haven't seen that roses still bloom in donetsk tell this. they don't know that donetsk is not like mariupol at all, even though it was allegedly bombed for 8 years, just like the truth. so now they have already started to arrive in donetsk and luhansk

occupied in particular, here we go to our topic, and on may 15, the so-called minister of internal affairs unsuccessfully went to the barbershop, lord, forgive the lnr igor kornet, he was seriously injured as a result of the explosion, he had numerous, numerous, mine-explosive injuries . well, but they say no to his life they threaten him, he was taken to a hospital in moscow, and who is ihor kornets - he is actually a traitor , a former officer of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine who, since august 2014, holds the position of the so-called minister of internal affairs, well, you can say, a long-timer by the standards of these separatist groups. and let's talk a little about these clashes, because of course it's very convenient to blame everything on ukraine, to tell that it was a storpshead, who took it and flew to the barbershop, but what do you think? some showdowns, the same cornet in 2017, you will laugh, he made a color revolution there and displaced

the leader of the lpr, the so-called platnytskyi, whose traces have now been lost somewhere after being in prison, the crosses, after these crosses, he disappeared somewhere, and it is unknown now not i know, maybe you know where he is, and what do you think, after all, this is internal strife , ukraine has already begun to purge these long-lived people for something, but that’s the point. you know, if it turned out that it was actually there , our special services would not upset, but i can say that i have great doubts that ukraine is involved here , because, well, first of all, if ukraine , let's say, was interested in this in destroying such people, it would have been done much earlier, and because , well, let's say, when there, well, russia nominal gave up this territory, it was the so-called lpr, well, it was much easier to do than now, when the city is simply full

of russian special services, troops, everything , that is, everything is already open. well, it can be for several reasons, because this territory of donbass, since the 14th year, has become an area of ​​conflict where everyone undermined each other, killed and destroyed, and well, at least half of these cases are actually open the russians themselves recognize what this is. well, it’s not ukraine or any ukrainian drg . and it’s them among themselves there. this includes the first field commanders of the 14th year , for example, wagner destroyed the dude, wagner, who then only became famous, now he focuses, well, actually for russia then he was used as such punitive squads. and as for the carenet , yes, first of all, he is known to many people for his attacks

. in the structure of the lpr, when platnytskyi was removed, he dismissed him and cornet claimed, then they said that carnet would be the successor, but from russia they decided and appointed pasichnyk . appointed, he first had these conflicts with a carpenter, then with a beekeeper, this is one line, another line is that he was simply engaged , well, in fact, he is the leader of the organized crime group in that territory, he was engaged in the maintenance of the garden, the so-called ministry of internal affairs of the lpr there they simply kidnapped people there, businessmen, engaged in extortion there and so on, for example, there is a story once upon a time that the russians themselves write and admit, and there was such a russian, artem bulgakov, who came from russia and fought for the lpr, in the 16th year he was shot by a cornet with

he was taken by his direct henchmen to this building of the ministry of internal affairs of the lpr, where most of his sons were simply killed, shot in russia , a criminal case was opened, there were some courts, and the mother of this russian mercenary who was killed recorded an appeal, she wanted to try this clarinet, well, it all ended in nothing but even then, after that, they wrote and these comrades in this arty of bulgakov, who was killed, that we will take revenge, we will do this , we say that it is the cornet's fault, we will take revenge on him, that's why he had a lot of enemies there inside, this is a constant, such a change of the kublo , which is constantly between them conflicted with that well, considering that this is the territory of such banditry and now it is very convenient you can blow up anyone you want, no one will investigate , they will say and this is all gur, this is the ukrainian special service there in washington, as they say, yes, everything and hmm well

it is convenient to kill anyone to settle accounts, plus there is a business like the resale of humanitarian aid, for example, which local proteges of the regime are there, they share among themselves what this money is for, this is also but the main thing has always been this, in fact, robbery, well, financial flows that went to stands in this paris has coal, yes, there is metal, it’s just that they rip off the entrepreneurs there, they tax them with some kind of tribute, and a tranche comes from russia . and in general, there is no income from industry for the maintenance of this territory, it’s just a racket from 90 industries there, well, in fact, it was squeezed there, handed over there to a russian oligarch, one, one. i know that the luhansk cartridge plant was simply collected and taken away . it is such an industry, it is military there , it has a separate history. yes, we do not know how profitable it is in general, but it is ordinary. the industry, let's say, which created

the basis of this economic power of the region, this is coal metal, and at first they gave kurchenko and by the way, because of this conflict, most likely , zakharchenko was killed, and this, too, russia admits that he had a lot of conflicts, and then zakharchenko was killed because of it, and then it was passed on from yurchenko's dog, this is also another russian oligarch, some kind of cover-up . i understand the fsb-shna that way. well, that is, it is always a territory where there is no law, it is a territory that actually controls the government after russia announced that it is now the territory of russia, that it is now not, well, not separate pseudo republics. and those are the gubernias of the regions, what do they call them there? and do the people who controlled and looted this territory for 9 years continue to control or do they continue to control or russia has already sent its own people there and they really perceive this territory as a region of russia, its administration will form

authorities there to hold elections, but today it is done and even told by our immigrants who are leaving here refugees, in fact, they are immigrants who tell that the border still exists, in principle, everyone admits there are a lot of them all the time. videos appear because there are crazy queues. and yes, the situation is very strange, strange because, well, putin made a pathetic announcement that he is annexing these territories to russia, but actually nothing has changed, just nothing has happened, but now even we said we were talking about this clarinet and he is still called the minister of the interior of the lpr, what is that, in russia, several ministers of the interior, well, they announced that this could be a minister in the luhansk region of russia, yes no. that is, it is a delusion, well

, that is, they understand the fakes themselves. and nothing has actually changed there. that is, there are still borders, there are queues, all the local gangs are still here. that is, the laws do not work there, relatively speaking, somewhere in russia, uh, still, yes, people have some set of rights there, they can go somewhere , there are some there are structures, there is nothing like that in these territories, the occupied territories of ukraine. well, here it is, again, she is a more vivid example, but now, when there was a mobilization, when the war just started , she mobilized all the students right in front of them. uniforms, mustaches just came straight from the couples, they took a good machine gun and went to war, a lot of people died and now, in fact, these students are still fighting there, more than a year has passed , they don’t have vacations there, and their mothers are constantly writing down some appeals, but i recently just talked about this too in

i told this blog and they say that putin gave such an order when he annexed these territories to russia, well, in quotes, he gave an order that the students should be returned, because in russia, students do not fight, they mobilize, they study, if you full-time, you can't be mobilized. and if there's donbas in russia, why are the students there fighting and what the heck and they 're fighting there and everyone's sneezes at this guy. putin said something on camera, let's return the students, but in reality nothing is happening, and there the mothers are going on strike and rioting they record these appeals to everyone, in general, it’s a light bulb. this is it, it didn’t lead to the fact that the territory is the same, it’s all together in the territory of lawlessness, it has been there since 2014 and it remains the same, that is, they themselves are mobilized. well, in general, the inhabitants of these of the occupied territories are second-class people , this is clearly visible from the position of the russians in russia, that is, the russian army currently has