[000:00:00;00] we will see all the traitors in the wake of the russian ship in a week on espresso i congratulate you dear tv viewers on the espresso tv channel program studio event we will analyze the most important events of this week our guests today general el nurmusayev former head of the national security committee of the republic of kazakhstan our second guest mark fegin activist russian opposition to emigration, a well-known video blogger, our current guest general lenur musaev, former head of the national security committee of kazakhstan former adviser to the president of kazakhstan on national security issues greetings dear mr. generals in the studio of the espresso tv channel greetings well, an extremely important summit was held, in particular, it is about the summit of the five central asian states that took place

in xi'an, and we understand that china has finally forged its geopolitical claims on the central asia for the new, what is there in the mutual relations with china of our states, this is the fact that the right has been silenced openly, the right has been raised , eh, except the economic policy, it means cooperation, cooperation in the field of defense and law enforcement activities, this is a very important step, and it is a very serious step for russia , as russia should, in any case, think deeply about all issues of defense and the activities of special services of law enforcement

agencies have always been carried out only at the request of the russian federation in our states, and no one personally claimed to be there. in recent years, of course, within the framework of the turkish union, turkey has made an association of special services - a small such association law enforcement agencies in turkey have taken concrete steps against azerbaijan when they directly and practically entered the karabakh conflict, but such a step . how has china made such a step in the history of relations between central asian states and other states ? the second leaders, er, this has not yet happened , we will see for sure how it will be implemented, but the course will soon be china directly

announced about er, serious financial er amounts allocated for the central asian states. i think in this direction, china will persistently move forward dear mr. generaly but if we are talking about the clash of the interests of central central asia, in particular the interests of russia and the interests of china , we understand that in the current situation moscow is extremely dependent on the celestial empire, and it is not for nothing that putin is trying to call xi jinping his elder brother, even in the last steps this is all clearly visible. china is distancing itself from russia's aggression in ukraine , showing its neutrality and showing some kind of formal support for russia.

in words, a peaceful project that in some world arranges the russian federation also means that it is moving in its own direction in the interests of its own interests , and actually the interests speak of the fact that china no longer sees russia as an equal partner, but er, the biggest problems that arose er in russia in connection with the aggression in ukraine, therefore, this move of china in central asia means er, some things . minister pashinyan is talking about that she has no prospects to stay in the otakb - this is a more serious moment and a very alarming call for russia otgb today it

is practically dead, such an association that does not have prospects, none of the participants in this dkb, even belarus eh, we will not interfere in any military conflicts outside the otc . this is the second time that the akb was unable to resolve the karabakh issue. uh, two important central asian states. so, the akb loses its capabilities absolutely, and uh, in the coming years, i predict that this situation of the ussr will simply collapse automatically due to

the upcoming defeat of russia on the cardan front . it is already visible to anyone, that is why the actions of china, they are exactly going in the same direction as with russia, the prospects of solving some global tasks within the framework of two great powers can no longer be unequivocally declared that china is set on a policy of two great powers it is not russia that is meant, of course, there is a source, the united states of america and china pretending to be the second great power, and these movements all sharply weaken the entry of the russian federation

into politics. directly in the russian federation, prigozhin, who is in charge of wagner's criminal group, gave an extremely scandalous interview in which he actually confused the russian defense minister with the swamp the key story is that prigozhin is gaining not only military strength inside russia, he is also gaining political public weight , and taking into account who is covering him, it can be assumed that the great chess game is beginning , not prigozhina, but actually patrusheva that the power there completely belongs to putin

eh it is impossible to tell in the 14th year, and in connection with the aggression in ukraine, it means that the environment is definitely looking for a way out for itself personally, first of all, a way out of this situation . such a gray cardinal and to promote his son to the highest post of the state, this has been known for a long time, and not only there, there are rumors, some uh, there are specific facts from the special services of the western special services, and according to the leak, i could see

this, but in connection with the failure of aggression in to ukraine, it is quite likely that the reorientation of the patrushevna concrete z patriotic nationalist chauvinistic structures of the russian federation is correct. the step in quotation marks is correct. we will speak from his side for him . at the present time , it's just zombified by the desire of the camper , i'm looking at it, even people are amazing . the price of one's own life .

it's absolutely so sharp that the change in life values ​​of people in the territory of the russian federation is just some kind of nightmare happening. how is this woman thanking putin for raising russia despite the fact that he and her husband were killed there in ukraine means that they brought his corpse, they take these white ladies there are some coffee makers, i do n't know it at all, some kind of nightmare is happening and in such a situation, of course, the path is eh patrushev eh clearly orientaruyutsya most for him and it is interesting that the figure of the beauties is also interesting it should be noted that the handsome man is not just a figure who can be manipulated , he spent the 90s in prison, that means

he managed to create a business structure in gangster petersburg without criminal activity. he never got out of this criminal structure and criminal wednesdays, and on this night he exists with the submission of the same, with the blessing of putin , he created such a private military structure that acquired the great authority of the russian federation, especially among these imperial patriots, therefore, the stake patrubshego and i do not deny that eh are putin's closest friends eh kovalchuk brothers eh especially the younger brother is eh they are of course eh determined today and eh i'm not sure most likely that there will be a big bow in

ak from around prigozhin and from prigozhin, on the one hand, they cannot make a puppet, and on the other hand, to share with him such a huge power, of course, everything is possible with this , er, prigozhin’s reverends to the west , first of all, to the addresses of the ukrainian armed forces, they are of course indicates that he is not he is simply pursuing a policy of rising to power, and in advance he will show things that he could show that he can be on an equal footing with western countries and , above all, with ukraine. that eh, the army of eh ukraine, well, after him, the army is definitely the second in the world, it is eh very much

worth. well, criticism of the eh armed forces of the russian federation is definitely his horse, he simply obliges to smear these things and take them under his wing wing of the future means eh some army structures are moving forward on this horse, many people say well, he has a criminal record , no one will allow him to occupy the highest post of the russian federation . financial resources of the kovalchuks, this means direct influence and access to putin or the clan of the ministry of defense, the main directorate of intelligence of the russian general staff and, accordingly

, the power block of the army, and also with direct access to putin, on the one hand, complex вопрос но с другие строных the picture is very correct, it was described all this happening eh in the elite of the российский федерации of course at any eh moment the situation there can change with the elimination of the same thing to us beautiful with some peretrubation in the army is inside the army environment itself everything these factors can momentarily change the problem, but the general trend. i think that it is independent , regardless of putin's wishes, he will move towards his elimination of power and the transition of power

. to call there, er, it’s not just that there’s a patrushek, there’s a son , or some fsb structures there, eh, it’s under the influence of this group. eh have full potential. how to eliminate this parishioner and raise him to the highest post, and despite the fact that he is a handsome man with a strong enough character. a lot

it depends on prigozhyn himself, so now take his ego and simply eliminate uh, he is not capable anymore, mr. putin is not capable. he can no longer come into the game , give these novice amateurs something to give some command or, uh, give the chechens directly the past there are all the structures, the team, there, take away prigozhin, this is no longer a power of attorney, absolutely , he could talk about it through vatrusheva, he could talk through military structures through the game that you mentioned, but he can’t solve anything directly, and as soon as you noted these are all structures as they say, the fifth corner in the current situation of an impending profound political and military defeat, they are a direct threat from them to physically

eliminate the same beauty. i don't know the logic of the so-called coup d'état and how parallel these or other structures can try to overcome the legitimate legal power of logic and in theory i 'm not salty, i'm in practice, so all these things in practice happened in the zero years. many people know that together with president nazarbayev's son-in-law, i planned a coup d'état. this will be a coup d'état in kazakhstan. parallels with what is happening in russia means that it was planned to be carried out with the help of such a network structure of the special services. there was no office there. we have, so to speak, a staff schedule of something then called someone how to write in prigozhina, too, military

, called some persons not there, but people were distributed in all of kazakhstan's own structures, the ministry of internal affairs means tax structures mass media, journalists, and all of this mmm network structure , it uh, on the example of the special services, there was a way , that is, an internal conspiracy was observed , practically none of the members of this structure knew what they were doing. we are the highest echelons of power, but due to the fact that, so to speak, there was no such support as prigozhyn now shows, and

there was no force. specialists in various shell quests due to the lack of a power structure and active use of the so-called politically-minded within the country and the government nazarbayev created the so-called democratically kazakhstani leader in the peak of his impending removal from power in this democratic election, ministers , oligarchs, heads of banking structures were included, and on the basis of such opposition to our network structure eh, like priborzhynskaya and

so to speak narodnoy, on this basis, of course, we did not manage to achieve those goals of breaking through to the highest power in a beautiful situation, eh , it was much more favorable, that is, when we were condemned there and removed from power, eh, this was to be done it is quite easy with the support of the democratically minded citizens of kazakhstan, we are security forces, and well, so to speak, none of us are democrats , and we did not plan to be democrats. i hope he plans to rise to power by force. and that's why i predicted last year that he might get something like this from the security forces and these network structures that exist not only for russia in kazakhstan, but for some

western countries , specific issues are solved through them, but in the interests of of course , it is in the interests of democratic states , so the government of these is a normal practice, and here the parishioner did not make any discovery, one of the ways to carry out a coup d'état mr. generaly, for this extremely interesting conversation, and i want to remind our viewers that general al-nur musaev, former head of the national security committee of the republic of kazakhstan, former adviser to the president of kazakhstan on national security issues, worked for them on the espresso tv channel, and now mark feigin, a russian-speaking actor, will work on the espresso tv channel opposition not emigration former member of the state duma iconic video blogger glory to ukraine mark i congratulate you all 30 well, there are many important events, but one of

the most characteristic is the story of by the people's republic of belarus and , accordingly , a parallel interview with prigozhin. it seems that prigozhin decided to complete the full version . i don’t see any significant change, but the appeal is not to the elite, not to the power, as such, as the people , but to the most profound people, of course, he articulates exactly these feelings. that is, you lost the war, he says because you

were engaged in hedonism yes, you exchanged the patriotic principle for your own pleasure, therefore everything that you built the army of the people's liberation army , etc. it is your fault, he says , i saw these unborn nameless heroes who also lied. and you, as he says, are the officials of the presidential administration. i will forget the fate of the war for them, and i tell you that you will equalize with the people if you send your children, they do not say where they died , that is, they will not just go to the service of the dead.

the end is not so that the artilleryman is the son of the sand, supposedly, yes, but he died because he could not really water, look further, now the situation is acute, and you are crying. the people must. no, he would not i started a conversation with them, everything would be fine in pobeda, many fathers, but i’m sorry to lose, as you don’t really want to lose, here you are depressing your remnants from wagner to take away from bakhmut. zaschite ot why do he have these remnants, well, how many of them are there left , egoists say 50,000, they won’t tell the number anymore, i use only public stands может может может питатся сейчас может 20, they don’t take suete, he declares that 20 000 died to the contractors of the dude wagner under bakhmut venum, much more died and much more he killed people there, but

nevertheless the point is that he fell, can he not allow himself to do better than this war ? sobriety drives me now, i need him and his ego in these so-called contracts , because if ukraine moves into contour steps, then everything and you the operation about which he speaks as a successful operation a-and means that all of ukraine is armed, as it was with khersonov, too, i will not say that it was not a successful operation to deoccupy the rules of the dnieper bank, not such a service understands a lot, he these moods that he provokes, yes, in relation to the type of blue, take him the show is there in the clit well, of course , of course

, of course, of course, that it is specific to him, but he is the one who is going to travel the oligarchs all the way, etc. at the time of this, somehow, you dream of yourself, this necessity, you will experience the consequences of the exercise, and we will say, well, and accordingly , the responsibility for the events in the belgorod region is also on whom, and on the stable and on everyone else. you can see him and how unexpected he was for the kremlin and how much the kremlin can try to use, but for the first two days there was complete surprise in all the kremlin public. it doesn't matter and here it is remarkable in this situation. yes, it was a shock for them once again. well, belgorod was shelled . well, in order to go to the territory of the belgorod region , this was not the territory of ukraine. the region is higher than the border with the russian federation. how are they

pairing up, they are there with the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine taking pictures next to this fallen border pillar on the border between ukraine and russia. and now look at what pillars were left there belgorod that km because of that govorom region yes well, what is there in general yes he stayed so this poet’s logic is practically no longer left bach of the borderlands we need to say and let’s say directly about one road around this belgorod and it will be worse not ostalbah but the plates of russian cities with which already in general, they are photographed, mmm, so here are these russian parmelitary from the battalions, well, more precisely, from the corps of the rdk and , accordingly, from the regions of freedom of russia, and for them this is all the same suddenly, for them it will always be unexpected because there is

such a thunderous mixture of corruption and corruption , because the feeling is that well, who is it? so, to go so deep into the territory of russia, that’s the same. we kept the nuclear one, it is possible not to keep it at all. that these things are really even real and that these 700 km to moscow, if desired, can be covered by a tank or there by armored vehicles in some reasonable time, yes, how much does 700 km fly, at a speed of 67 km, yes, 12 hours here do you understand the prophecies that are beginning to come true gradually well, who would have thought babchenko red square and abrams well, but they started from belohorodshchyna well, here's a laugh with fur irony irony and that's how it turns out because it's completely self -evident and realistic and there's a feeling that, well, now i'm throwing nothing away there lapingers, the colonel is running around an empty

, uh , populated area in which everything has already been removed, and he means that he portrays such a thing for 20 operations. the litmus reflection of this is what they stated. and we are told that the reserve is with him , but what is being carried out is not necessary, nothing serious has happened . according to the plan, in fact, i'm sure that there was a priest in the kremlin and everything, the security about them, they decided not to announce it, so that they don't, uh, this picture doesn't get condensed even more, don't make it large-scale, they're foreign russia, a whole missile unit with a tank of armored vehicles entered there -then personnel and so on, in order not to make it worse, they decided to show everything. yes, they wrote a video in a trap once , everyone killed everything, all the equipment was taken away, but in fact, only once serious and as usual central will not react reactively, they will act now some-

they will often strengthen the border there. but the extended border with ukraine will be hit in another place, in the kursk region, bryansk, any other , rostov, that is , they will wait for the word. it is difficult to secure the largest number of units and with the help of those means that were used by radicalized legions. yes, that is, for this, a larger scale is needed , maybe thousands of non-military personnel are needed, well, more equipment is needed, artillery is needed there, and so on . well, here's the thing: that these actions had an informational effect that was incredible on a scale - it's clear. that is , this is the feeling that the russian border is not symbiotic, that the russian territory is inviolable. that there, in general, such a thing can never happen, this is not the fact that even after a while it collapsed, that is, now everyone understands that it is quite possible, and in principle , it is interesting that with these methods it is possible to achieve the whole of the bulgarian bryansk region