[000:00:00;00] in the context of the risks of a nuclear nature, in principle, this is the policy , and china adheres to it in its public rhetoric. and really, as soon as the context and the incitement on the part of the russian federation, we remember to intensify whether they threatened with their nuclear weapons the other day china has expressed quite negatively in public that before this, what you did not miss is really putting the entire planet at risk in the context of the nuclear threat there. therefore , it has its own logic . of the president as he tries to balance. i wouldn't say that kazakhstan is maximally only there in the orbit of china, unfortunately they are also in the orbit of russia, partly because even looking at how much their turnover

in the last year is simply crazy numbers, this means that kazakhstan is maximally also helping russia and to circumvent the sanction, unfortunately, and receives his first of all from this type, but the fact that such a balance sometimes allows himself to really state such public rather straightforward things, this means that he is strengthening the position of china on the other hand, and that as for the position of the united states of america, i do not think that they will somehow tactically and strategically change their context of nuclear placement there in europe in the first place, but on the other hand, this is again an aggravation of risk and conflictogenicity , which can cause greater challenges for nuclear world security in general. thank you. bohdan ferens was with us, an international expert , candidate of political sciences. how about your

participation? andrii zakrevskyi, chairman of the board of the oil and gas association of ukraine. on the european market, and let's start in particular with its price below three hundred dollars for 1,000 cubes, it has actually fallen to a psychological minimum. what is this connected with and what consequences does it bring, and the opportunities for and for the european economy and for the ukrainian economy? well, first of all, let's let's figure out why the price fell. the price fell for two reasons. the first reason is that europe ended up with an unprecedentedly high amount of gas in its storage facilities. 58% of you literally reached 64 in two weeks. i want to remind you that sometimes europe entered the winter the season remains at 64%, in its indicative storages

, that is, there is actually nothing to be afraid of and europe has started to receive lg g gas essentially in a non-stop mode, and we are also waiting for the opening of two lg terminals well, to preserve europe , this is the reason for the fall of e-e, first of all, the second moment back in december of last year, well, the energy department of the united university of america said that it expects the price of e-e for the lg terminal of japanese, japanese, european e-e ports in the region of $385 on average. now we see this, that is, and we started the year with the asian price of lg is around $700 for 1,000 cubic meters of gas. now there will be a drop when there is a summer peak. prices are moving a little higher. and the average for the year is probably around

$385 and we will see. that is, as they say, they will not get 1,000 cubic meters. it's serious. how will it affect them? let's do it. russia will now sell a maximum of 55 billion cubic meters of gas outside its borders . i talked about this a year and three months ago. cubic meters of gas transit through ukraine and about 25 billion cubic meters of e-e gas on e-e chinese e-e power siberia e-e that’s all , even if it were $1,000 for 1000 cubic meters of gas, russia will not sell at least 100-120 billion cubic meters of gas, that’s the first that is, they do not actually receive 80% of the volume

of gas, they receive, you understand, but i left 620%. i think that some data is being leaked that the trade there with china has led to such a valuable $200 per thousand cubic meters of gas. so , europe. i think that they are also cheaper than $300, as they do not sell and do not they sell it, so i think it’s safe to say, i don’t know 90%, one receives from gas exports, in fact, they are still on the map of the world as exporters. andriy, you mentioned that about 22 billion of russian gas is still pumped through ukraine on year, how profitable is it for us from a political, economic, and military point of view, is it the continuation of the transportation of russian gas through our

territories ? they gave up russian gas, i ask a very dry question. well, we energy workers think about this every time when we repair lawns after russian strikes and so on. first and foremost, i think the most important thing is the argument is a political argument, we have already forgotten that we were called not e as a permanent supplier and so on and this is a political argument. we must hold on until the very end , that is, ukraine must show what is she adheres to the agreements that this is a legal democratic country, some liberal market and democratic values ​​are in the first place, this is the main

argument that they tried to destroy russia from below, destroying transit, the pressure of the falling pressure , and so on . well, its importance was great, because maintaining the gas transportation system so that it all works is a lot of money, we only spend 1.5 billion cubic meters of gas on our compressor stations which are all simply transported, and it must be covered, especially in conditions of high gas prices, so the point of commerce used to be in second place. but now its importance is gradually decreasing, but there is a third argument, and there is no parallel transit system

in ukraine, e.e., gas transit maintains the pressure in the entire gts system of ukraine, and i know that the termination of transit will lead to additional costs for maintaining pressure in the main pipe, that is, this is already the second and third argument of them and those who logical among themselves and commercial are composed if, but we know that there can be a situation of zero transit, and we are ready for it. we are already ready for it. there will be zero transit, that is, there is a problem with pressures, but it is solved by gas volumes , and if last year it was in doubt whether we would be able to get enough gas in order to maintain pressures to pump gas there from the east e west to east if this

it will be needed now, when the european storage gas filling, this issue is dropped. and we return to the fact that if we are ready for this, if commercially, only commercial and political issues remain, what will happen next , in fact, we can say that there is a fourth section of this issue - this a military moment, a military moment, this is also a very important moment because, in essence, russia is now supporting its own part, which goes there from yamalo and so on, at the expense of this small transit of gas to europe, and if we we do for them, we will essentially process the last minute coverage of their expenses for the support of the western gas transportation system, somewhere parity has already been established

and which is currently managed by us, not russia, that is, now we are pulling this thread it, er, remained the only one, they are ancient, but i will remind you that in our storages the amount is not increasing , well, the amount of fuel in general is critically small in ukraine . the ministry of energy reports on this, they do not know that this applies to specific gas, as of now, what is the situation with this, we have no problems at all er with we have more gas than we need. one of the gas is more than we need. we are out of season. there are about 10 billion. there were nine nine with pennies. and now ukraine will receive only 18. we have another problem and a very big one. minister of energy, we should not scaremongers, we should engage in falsehoods, if you have not confused anything, but think about what we should do with the gas of our own production, that is, we now have a paradoxical situation when we

will most likely produce less for one simple reason that we have nowhere to go for gas, that is we are they banned the export of ukrainian gas. last year, when they were afraid that we would not have enough for the winter. that is why the ban is still in effect. and here is the loss of gas on the territory of ukraine for a private company. at the moment, well, this is the summer period. where should i go now gas? today, where should i go now, private companies are pumping it into the underground storage and soon we will find ourselves in a situation where you will be told that we have an underground storage , how about 9-10=12 13 billion cubic meters of gas half of it will be commercial gas, which is just lying there, we didn't pay anyone a penny for it, but thank god, at least we don't pay rent payments for it, that is , now the government has allowed private companies to pump gas into underground storage and not pay estimated payments but you understand that rent

payments are also a good penny if this gas is exported to us now. the question is that we have to pay for the export. but unexpectedly, the russians solved our eternal problem of increasing their own production in bi- it is no longer necessary to increase production because the economy has fallen. and in general, i am still returning to the gts if you say that we are burning 200 billion there just for transit, you said yes, the navigator to, well, yes, to ensure this transit, there is now some kind of strategic vision. and what will happen with with this gts after the end of the war, after the victory, what to do? will anyone in europe buy this russian gas at all? will russia export it through ukraine? do we need this export at all? if the russian leadership changes there

, it will not change, putin will remain, some crazy beauties, parthenorago women, or someone else will come to power, what should we do with this gts, which we once wanted to sell for tens of billions or give it to a concession, and now it is like a suitcase without a handle, it is no longer clear why and this is a structure that must function and function eats up a huge amount of money, please. well, here , let's write three short options. the first option is that we, in the conditions of zero transit, disconnect several branches, well, at least one. gas transport branch systems, er, next to the compressor, what do we have there, we are engaged in cannibalism, we simply stop er , so to speak, to modernize our system, and little by little it will, as it were, shrink by itself. and we will use the extra ones, and there are as many as 70 of them

in this case, there are no more pipes and no more pressure pipes, and well, well, these lengths of the kps station, which are obtained in the new building , infrastructure will not be needed, this is just such a simple option. the second option is what putin started with the fact that he was the head of the committee oil and gas in exchange for food, and this is what you learn, that is, it may become the only thread that will connect as during the iron curtain there and so on the curtains of putin's russia and ukraine and these will be 11 levers that ukraine will be able to use politically because they will soon not be able to get european money by other means, already under the sanction of the russian federation, it seems that they will have big problems and this will simply be a lever through which some kind of funding will be again democracy in russia there and so on well, you understand yes that

there is already a sanction exchange somewhere, there will be a third option uh, what uh, it could be, uh, after the change of power in russia, why not if ukraine receives investments and so on, to have cheap energy from siberia in order to develop its own chemical industry, or if for example, we will make one about the moment that sanctions, for example, on the sale of gas to ukraine , we will remove them. chemicals are prohibited chemical reagents and yes, ukraine will be able to receive an incredible inflow of investment money in the chemical industry itself, if the sanction applies to chemicals from russia and gas, you can take cheap raw materials from them that they do not need and make money by

producing, for example, minfertilizers for our of the agrarian complex. thank you, mr. andriy, for such high-quality analysis. andriy zakrevskyi, the chairman of the board of the oil and gas association of ukraine, was in touch with us. antonina samoilova is the first ukrainian woman to climb everest twice . congratulations to antonina. glory to ukraine with heroes. glory. good day. good day. please tell our viewers your story on everest

twice. one thing is to draw attention to our country to our flag, which flew second on the top of everest this year and this year we managed to make a video with a drone and this is a very exclusive video because there are no such ones in the world and everything turned out in the best way that is, we climbed to the top at dawn, the first rays of the sun helped us shoot the best videos, in my opinion, with our flag , there were not many people on the summit itself , because it was already the second weather window , and we planned with the cameraman to do this shooting

and we were going to do it for 40 days expedition and everything turned out in the best way. i will ask the following question as the son of a mountaineer, a candidate for master of sports in mountaineering of the soviet union , on the contrary, not my father was involved, unfortunately, there was no opportunity then to conquer any peaks in the union, which are the highest outside the union we seem to have taken care of it, but the question is the following, well, we are now climbing everest. it is very similar to such tourism , well, it is so difficult with attenuators, but still tourism when people use various helicopters there, then the services of these rapists, who are called porters, which group goes and they are served there, they go there four and another 20 local people are raised for money, because you have to live somewhere, eat something, drink something, and so on, or what means of civilization

did you use during your two ascents please tell me, because in the soviet union , of course, there were no such services and porters or helicopters, i am asking only to be honest, of course i will be honest, i used the services of porters, as i think 99% of people who now go to everest, and the porters carry our things to the base camp, and then we have sherpas who go to the local people who help us in the ascent who carry oxygen cylinders and with all these means of civilization i also used the porters, that is, the porters helped me bring my bowls to the base camp and then to i had guides. what kind of children helped me get oxygen to the top. and in general

, i had a plan to make an oxygen-free ascent this year , but due to an illness inside the expedition, it became impossible. well, i will say that the serpis are a local tribe that lives in the himalayas, and they simply earn money. let's say yes, on tourists, helping them on similar, then the next question , and you slept on the glacier in such a way, did you have such a thing in your experience, because before this, well , my father often told that they slept on the glacier, they were afraid there, god forbid he didn't come down and so that our tent didn't just get blown down into another one , so it's in the process of climbing if you well, i think you know this garbage just like all of this from the stories, so in the process of climbing, every climber must

go through a rotation rotation or so the adaptation exit eh to disappear to the height and the lack of oxygen at the height eh in the process of rotations rotations in nepal every climber must pass eh november of the club to extract kumbo - this is also a dangerous place eh and i passed it this year twice up and down and that indeed, it is really dangerous, because in your country, because there are depths of ice that can fall on you, which, um, create a real danger a-a therefore, this ascent from the nepalese side to everest is considered more dangerous than , for example, the tibetan-stebek side, and so i

spent the night under the icefall, where is the base camp located? in principle, it is not a dangerous place, it is a safe place without danger. the icefall itself creates it. when you go there, you walk through it to the first camp . it takes about 6-7 hours. on average, do the local residents there in the same nepal know about the war in ukraine , there are also difficult relations with the people's republic of china, or are they aware of the extent to which there is true information about the russian-ukrainian war, and do people there understand who is the aggressor , who is the victim, or are there any general illusions? that not everything is so clear-cut and it's just some kind of conflict over the territory, i

'm asking, i'm being honest, is it nepali, not the palish government, my god, the nepali government is quite so pro-russian, unfortunately when last year i was the only ukrainian woman who, er, climbed everest and brought the flag there, and one flag was just yellow-blue blue-yellow, and the other one was with the inscription stenvid ukraine, because i went with this mission, and after that how did i come down and publish photos with this flag on social networks a week later i got a call and asked to delete these photos as those that carry politics to the mountains of course i did not delete them i said that this is not politics ah well for some

, this policy is a tragedy for us, what a war carries the victims of tens and hundreds of people, thousands of people called from the government of nepal or from where exactly or from the russian federation, they were with the operator with whom i went to palsky and said that he has what he was asked to remove these mistakes, some official representatives of the official the institutions of the authorities, the representatives of the authorities, or who himself asked, the operator told me, the operator told me that it was a request of the government from the parliament of nepal. okay , thank you for antonin's participation. well, then tell me if there will be a third ascent and when and which ones more peaks you are going to conquer in your life, to be honest, two days ago , when i was in the base camp, i was very tired and

simply did not have the strength to even leave the tent, i told myself that this was my last ascent, in principle, not just for 8,000 or to everest in general. this is my last trip to the mountains, but hmm, this is a normal thing for climbers when they get tired at the end of an expedition and don't want anything else. now i'm in kathmandu for the second day and i think that maybe the third ascent will be next year and i think that in general i have an idea that er how long will the war last in our country and the russians will create terror in our cities , i will, i can climb everest, i will take the strength for this, i don’t know

where, but to bring our flag to the top of the world as a symbol of the indomitability of our of the people as a symbol of what as a symbol of strength and a symbol of the fact that the ukrainian people are capable of anything and of course that victory is ours . very such a subtle association that when you go to the top of everest and you are very sick and you are in the death zone, what is above 8,000 m you are fighting for your life, we are all fighting for our lives in ukraine and

while we are in the death zone, we it is very difficult for everyone, but if we understand that we are the winners in our heads, then it will be just like that, for some it takes more time, for others it takes less time. everest, you know, i will reveal antonin's secret to you. i think he is also for the baptism i will explain why, an unexpected explanation of why in nepal they like the russian position on the non-ukrainian war in the russian-ukrainian war, i just opened wikipedia and learned that in the nepalese parliament , both chambers are called the house of representatives and the national assembly. you know who has the biggest faction in that chamber. and you know that mrs. khrystyna in nepal, yes. no, i am not polish. the communist party has the majority there, the majority of the largest factions in

both chambers of the polish parliament. for me it is not surprising the pro-russian position of the parliament and the government of nepal. thank you for including antonina samoilova , the first ukrainian woman to climb everest for life. the press service of the special forces recorded on the video, in particular , elements of training against the enemy from the position of the already almost destroyed houses of the city of the fortress as the work of a sniper and likely the use of a grenade launcher, despite extremely difficult conditions, ukrainian fighters demonstrate the presence of a sense of humor and indomitable spirit, showing that on the front lines there will be a place for morning coffee in a friendly joke or tenderness for a dog, if you could watch

this video now, it would be great, well, in a word, this is approximately the situation in bakhmut as of now, let's remind that the defense forces of ukraine still continue to hold positions within the city limits . well, on the flanks, there is heavy , heavy, bloody, but magic. thank you for the magic, and the dog will be here. wait, that’s it, the fighters are stroking dogs, if that’s a dog to the destroyed bakhmut. but when i returned to nepal, i didn’t even pay attention to the parliamentary forces, that there are three factions of different communist parties in each chamber of the parliament and in the upper and lower, you understand three communist parties, ml com, the mc party and the communist party, it’s called in bakhmut. and you’re all right , the most high-altitude country in the world is winning for us in nepal

, yes. i understand that as of now, we are planning a story about what the ukrainian defense industry, the neptune rocket, can do. that sunk moscow surprised arms manufacturers around the world last spring near the snake island the occupiers suffered the first devastating defeat in this war the flagship of the russian fleet the cruiser moscow was destroyed by ukrainian-made missiles hundreds of occupiers were killed what is the uniqueness of this complex see further in the plot this phrase became not only winged, but also a messenger , on april 13, 2022, ukrainian soldiers did what they had done to russian flagships for more than 100