[000:00:00;00] show i don't know coffee god's class thank you victor yagun deputy head of the security service of ukraine in 14-15 years major general of the reserve of the security service of ukraine military public figure please and now we will look at the plot of our french colleagues from france24 the fate of the ship from the collaborators of teachers who resumed cooperation with by russians and judges who accuse each other of working for the enemy, in detail about how they live now in vovchansk and raisins in kharkiv region , our french colleagues

entered his hometown vovchansk dmytro chygrinov was just released on bail, he was accused of kidnapping, extortion and inflicting grievous bodily harm, the russians appointed him to the post of mayor today, vovchansk is again under the control of ukraine, and treason was added to the list of charges against chygrinov. can you do something next week, but they just didn’t have enough time there house on may 9, 2014 , related to collaboration with the occupiers, which is currently being considered by the kyiv district court of kharkiv, and this is one of the least ambiguous cases of cooperation specifically with criminal elements. these are quite often cases of cooperation with criminal elements. such elements are quite frequent, as such elements already had their own groups of supporters ready to break the law , torture, kill and rob. most of those whom the russians used to manage

the occupied cities fled to russia even before the arrival of the armed forces of ukraine, but at that time quarreled with the russians and tried to escape through ukraine and failed. but in vovchansk, people don't take risks , they prefer not to talk about him. i don't know . everyone abandoned him. i don't pay attention to the fact that are these mafiosi better to live peacefully or the less you know the better you sleep and suddenly they come to your home at night and drag away not many residents of vovchansk to a large extent depends on humanitarian aid before the invasion the city lived at the expense of cross-border trade with russia which is only 6 km from here it was always more pro-russian than others, thousands of residents of vovchansk left for russia together with the russian troops, they simply got together and left. tetyana bondareva, a teacher in zvuchansk

, says that the russians quickly realized what they had done having mistakenly appointed chygrinov, they quickly removed him from this position because he did not have any administrative skills , which actually indicates that the occupiers were trying to maintain some order. they knew that this would be enough to gain the support of the population, which was already inclined to support them after meeting with colleagues on whom she clearly refused to cooperate with, the russian military came to tatyana's house , my colleagues sent armed terrorists to my house, who took me out at gunpoint in front of my children, that's right sadly managed to escape, but most of the teachers in vovchansk stayed and continued to cooperate with the occupiers, they still receive russian salaries, that is, i believe that they should be punished if they say that they had no choice, then such arguments should be taken into account, and

yet i think that most of my colleagues would have more when i look at the photos of my former students who died in battle, any doubts about my position disappear, they died defending us, this also applies to my colleagues who at that time were working on their murderers, who says that the desire for punishment has gone too far in our pre-trial detention centers full of teachers, secretaries of local councils, civil servants with lawyer svitlana sitko or on the street trying to draw extra attention to herself in her car svitlana takes testimony from colleagues of the teacher she defends sign here what

to confirm that you we got to know each other, thank you very much , i hope that we can solve this case in a pre-trial procedure, it will go to court, you can be called as a witness, izum describes the toxic atmosphere after the release, the neighbors they accuse each other of collaborationism, this is what they call collaborators, and because we tried in such a difficult situation , we were occupied for 5 months, hundreds of civilians died. it was very difficult. to say that he did it voluntarily after

the russians killed him there, he didn't kill anyone, he was doing it chasing looters. and where was our police? then they took 10 days, we didn't know where he was, it happened officially on september 12 the date of vitaly tkachenko's arrest is september 23. in april, the mother saw her son in court for the first time in seven months. according to him, he faces a 15-year prison term. this is not what he expected. go with us, i said ok, we left svitlana is trying to help vitaly's release on bail, keeping my client in

custody violates his constitutional rights , the request is refused, there are always cases of collaboration that drag on for months because the justice system is not reformed and not provided with resources, it is trying to cope with an unprecedented situation, the sensual voice of the piccardian tertiary invites you to the first solo concert in the extraordinary metropolitan garden, the song gallery of the window of feelings june 10 at 4:00 p.m. tickets on the website of the big show organizer ua live sound why am i here at my sensitive teeth eat ice cream pain cold

air pain sweet pain the dentist recommended lekalot sensetem what effectively reduces the sensitivity of teeth if i knew kalut senseti you in the past i would not have had to come here at all lacalut sensitive reliable protection against pain europa league final on megogo sevilla kings of the europa league but on the side of roma coach who does not lose the european cup finals watch the super match on may 31 at 10:00 p.m. exclusively on megogo you have hearing problems you can't understand the interlocutor we have a solution powerful and inconspicuous mega sound amplifier , call while the video is being broadcast and order at a special reduced price of only uah 399, the mega device is placed inside the lace fabric, and the small size and body color make it practical inconspicuous, the weight of the device is only 3 g, while it adjusts the volume up to 50 decibels now you will not miss a single sound , you will not need to constantly interrogate

your interlocutors, annoy your loved ones with a loud sound, miss phone calls, the device works on a battery, a convenient volume control will allow you to adjust the device just for you, call while the video is being broadcast and order a mega sound amplifier at a special reduced price of only uah 399 , a compact, inconspicuous and such a powerful mega sound amplifier, let's talk about loved ones they will appreciate it and hear you call it is difficult to stand up and climb the stairs old injuries and sprains are constantly reminding of themselves with sharp pain you need help the knee brace moves easily a reliable assistant for the joints order right now with a discount for only uah 199 will fix tightly will reduce the load and stress and significantly will improve blood flow, the knee pad moves easily , provides incredible lightness and comfort of movement , the secret is in three-dimensional fixation of the knee joint and reliable support of the muscular

skeleton. see how easy it is to use put the knee pad on your leg and fasten it tightly with velcro straps everything is maximum comfort and support, and thanks to the special fabric, the knee pad moves easily, it has an additional micromassage and warming effect, the universal size will fit the new fullness, the knee pad moves easily, you can be active at any age, feel the joy of movement without of pain, call and order a knee brace, move easily for only uah 199, call, we continue our broadcast at 1:40 p.m. on the clock yehor shishirinda and khrystyna yatskiv is with us, and we have already been joined by nataliya ishchenko

, head of the balkan columnist project, we will talk about the problems in the balkans and the latest information from there. which declared itself an independent country a few years ago, not everyone recognized it as such, even ukraine still has not recognized it, and of course serbia considers it to be its territory as well. the army is on the highest combat readiness, how much is it really a snake diagonally now, please, you know, this is simply that the army is conducting combat readiness, it has happened several times in recent months and it already causes distrust , you know it like wolves, but this is exactly the situation , but here it is not just that combat readiness has been declared, units have to be moved to the administrative line of demarcation between serbia and the so-called central serbia and kosovo or between two states, as is believed to be the cause of inter-serbian kosovo and there are indeed threats of escalation because

already in the north, there were clashes in the north of kosovo in areas where serbs live compactly, there were clashes between local residents of serbs and the kosovo police due to the fact that the kosovo police took control of the buildings of local municipalities in precisely these regions in the north kosovo in order to bring the newly elected mayors of these regions and so on were of legitimate format , legitimately because there were local elections according to the law, the tsimmers, who all represent the albanian parties, were elected absolutely legitimately, legally, but you have to understand what was taken participation in these elections only so, no, well, everyone had the right, but in fact only the aban parties participated, and separately, the serbian party was

a local party that participated in the form of individual representatives of the representatives of the serbian community, but in principle, absolutely all serbian parties boycotted, that is, they participated participation in the elections with their boycott ah and well, but the main thing is that now they are not satisfied with the result and it is repeated and they are competing, she did not participate, and the voters did not come at all to participate in the elections , only three percent of the residents came to the polling station and voted of these districts are four municipalities in the north of kosovo and now formally according to the law of kosovo the elections are legitimate there is no such lower bar of voter turnout and therefore formally all legally elected mayors are albanian respectively if only albanians came they voted only for albanian mayors these mayors with the police came

in the building of the local authorities, there were clashes with lyson gas and burning police cars, and now they are already under the control of the kosovo police, the flags of kosovo and not serbia, as were the local ones before that the serbs gave belgrade and pristina time until the first of june for the situation to be resolved, otherwise they said that they would go to all kinds of resistance and there would be an escalation, that is, they want the return of the serbian flags and everything else. and please tell me in your opinion what this boycott is in the elections and what is happening now, this clash doesn't it actually demonstrate the disconnection of the agreements at the highest level between kosovo and serbia from

what is happening directly on the ground . i don't think so. no, here is the problem disagreements between the european union and belgrade, and how these agreements are interpreted in belgrade, in pristina, in brussels, where these agreements are reached, or in others , for example, the last agreement was reached in neighboring north macedonia, and they reported to the european structure that everything managed to reach a compromise , but belgrade immediately then said that the soaps do not sign under what, but in the acne they said, er , some points we do not agree categorically, we will not comply, well, that is, everyone said something , they commented, it was clear that immediately even formally there are contradictions that were reflected as they say on the ground already in the fields by such skirmishes and precisely

in order to prevent the local serbs from insulting the army, so to speak, and moved to the borders well, in nato, the institutions in kosovo called for an immediate de-escalation after the skirmishes about this was reported by the spokeswoman of the canato ona longerska quote we call on the institution of kosovo to immediately de-escalate and we call on all parties to resolve the situation through dialogue the nato mission remains vigilant and will ensure a safe environment is this message please tell me. and what is the overall proportion of the population, the ethnic proportion in general is 95 to 5, 95 percent are albanians, five are serbs, and there are 30 municipalities in total. if i am not mistaken, all of them in all four northern territories are the reverse, what is the proportion of 5x95, so approximately well, it's a little different there, but about five-five albanians. well, they showed it to the election. by the way, that's 3% that came to the elections

. well, there in different micro-regions in these regions, different proportions, but in general, then there was a call for a boycott connected with what ie theoretically, it was better for the local serbian parties to go to the elections, win the elections and have a legitimate mandate, a representative simma datu already to choose such cases, because this position looks like the position of baba yaga against , well, we do not go against that, and let it cause complete chaos in the government in the local but we absolve ourselves of any responsibility due to the fact that these are extraordinary elections and they were announced as rigged after the local serbian leaders , all the serbian leaders were there when they went to resigned, stopped performing their duties as a sign of protest against the fact that the kosovo authorities demanded the re -registration of car numbers from serbian to kosovar , they demanded the fulfillment of previous agreements

on re-registration, and the serbs did not want to fulfill the previous agreements. that's why baba yaga was against it anyway. with these new elections, they did not want to vote , so to speak, their previous protest action, accordingly , they transformed it into the fact that they would torture the elections by continuing their boycott of the local post-municipalities in the north of kosovo, this is also a compromise option, and they are , so to speak, part of local self-government in kosovo itself and such a hybrid format. what prishtina recognizes as legitimate bodies of local self-government, but belgrade also recognizes the previous agreements that were reached through the mediation of the eu they wanted to create

an association of serbian municipalities on the basis of these four local authorities, a kind of region with a special status, the serbian autonomy within kosovo, and precisely these agreements reaffirmed the last agreements and this is exactly what the pimply woman said that she will not do to play the opposite, she said that the main thing is to formalize the serbian enclave inside the country, this is what the serbs did in bosnia and herzegovina, where ukraine does not understand where it is going, there are three governments, three presidents, 10 governments and full of chaos, and then you come to croatia even before the war for a vacation. and they say that they used to sing bosnian illegals and a whole country of bosnian illegals would be caught here, because bosnia itself. i don't know where to go, neither geopolitically nor there economically, not militarily, well, this is my personal point of view. maybe i'm wrong, because you mentioned the republic of serbia

as part of bosnia, money. so, when the government in power protests against this creation of an enclave, they always say that it's not possible. we don't want the creation of another republic of serbia and such a serbian republic as part of croatia, they tried to create an electorate to manage simply by military means, this republic was liquidated. now there is a war between russia against ukraine and a war between croatia and serbia in the 90s, i don’t know how much. by the way, it’s a good idea to compare the history of different conflicts. how do you feel about this, ms. natalya? here’s another comparison. maria geletii is an expert balcony artist. the deputy director of the ukrainian independent center for political research stated on the air of one of the tv channels that the situation in kosovo is a good lesson for ukraine, because the example of the balkan

region can be seen to what it can lead to the conflict is not fully settled well, you know, i co-authored a whole book with other conflicts that changed the world , in my opinion, we should study other conflicts in order to learn from other people's mistakes, but sometimes we have to understand that ah, some settlement process, some agreements were the only possible ones. well therefore, it is not a mistake and we cannot criticize it, but there was no other option at all at that time, and this is precisely the agreement reached by the serbs and the municipalities in the north of kosovo in 2013, and everything was supposedly moving towards the fact that serbia in exchange on the special status of the serbian regions, kosovo recognizes the independence of kosovo, well, that is, supposedly a compromise exchange, but then the war in ukraine began and the situation in the balkans sharply radicalized, and pristina told us that we do not

need serbian enclaves here. why compromise, we will fight, ukrainians fight for their own, we will also fight no, and the serbs said, well, in general, there is already a war in europe anyway. well, come on, we will stand here, there is nothing that the conflict is not terrible, but we have to defend our kosovo , well, that is, the situation has worsened sharply from the point from the point of view of the agreement and here it is precisely impossible to consider the situation in the balkans as separate from the situation in ukraine, and the reverse is also true, because when russia wants an escalation in the balkans, it considers that in this way it can trade somewhere , considering the whole of europe as one witch, which now represents a border is the administrative line the border between serbia and kosovo? how is it guarded there? the crossing points

of the crossing system. what does it look like ? what do people have to demonstrate ? what is checked? the kosovar armed forces, their army, the cheka's system, klimentary's piece, i was just there in 1999, as soon as the armed conflict ended, and then, of course , the cheka's popularity in kosovo was at an incredible level, uh, de facto - it's interstate the border, well, that is, and serbia, just when it was making a compromise, it advanced under the pressure of europe, in fact, it agreed that de facto it will be the state border, and passports are passed right there, and the customs office is there. well, that is, but serbia officially calls it an administrative border

of the armed forces of kosovo, according to all agreements, they do not have an army and they decided that they will create an army, but now they have the so-called security forces of kosovo, this is a law enforcement structure that has a special forces that is practically an army force, but it has its own special forces that participate, for example, in training nato as an army structure is formally a law enforcement agency, not an army. and the national guard can be part of the structure of the ministry of internal affairs. well, you. if there are parallels with ukraine, as far as the ukrainian armed forces are concerned , a very serious process is currently taking place, which, in fact, ukraine should investigate and has er, some lessons to be done. and by the way, he spoke about this

. an absolutely political decision is that there should be compromises and agree. the government of pristina did not agree to the creation of a special court and a special prosecutor's office in kosovo . formally, it is part of the law enforcement structure of kosovo, but de facto , foreigners work there, all employees are financed by the international community, by the european union in first of all, and precisely to gas - now, well, a few months ago, even years ago, they already sent the former president of kosovo and former speakers because they were once leaders in the czech republic and the former press secretary of this check is also a politician, then they cremate the killing of the civilian serbian population, so

what violation article there, they are war crimes, crimes against the iceman, there are tortures, tortures against opposition albanians, for example, there is not only against serbs, there is a lot of everything and and very similar if i am not mistaken, you can me to correct the situation was exactly the same in croatia or at the end of the war or even after that in croatia. so when several croatian military leaders also tried to bring to justice due to certain actions that could be qualified in a similar way, i conclude with regard to your they said that he was waiting. yes. exactly the slogan under which the kosovar albanians support their leaders, ah, it sounds like freedom has a price, yes, that is, they respect their army, and just as eddie rama said that ukrainians have what

ukrainians should support in general, that this the trial stopped there, there is no evidence, and otherwise ukrainian leaders will also be caught so that it is not enough that the ukrainian military, including leaders and political leaders, can repeat the fate of the albanians who are now being tried in the case for defending their land from the aggressor, as for croatians, there was also such a situation, in fact , it was hostile and cases were opened against all the leaders of the main e they were detained, just heaven, they were the first decision of the first instance , that they were guilty. well, you know

, they were found guilty in an anti-ghetto manner. at that time, the international tribunal for yugoslavia found the croats guilty. hundreds of thousands of people took part in the protests. to europe, if our leaders at all, what kind of military and political, which was held for our independence, will sit, we do not want to go to europe at all , then to europe, and the gas court acquitted everyone , let them go, then they really went there to do their own business, not into politics. they didn't leave, but they were released, they were acquitted, and now the serbs are pointing fingers all the time, this one says, "you see, the church planted the croats at the end, mrs. natalya, with your permission. i would like to remind our tv viewers. perhaps someone does not know that nataliya ishchenko is the mother of a hero er yes and er literally in the month of april you mentioned in one of your comments that it is in a very bad

condition in our country there is a system of er burying our heroes yes it is a difficult situation and there is not the respect that should be no from the state neither from business nor from society let's be frank about this comment well, i read in one of the resources given around the beginning of april and i think that you are tracking some trends, something is changing in general in this direction, changes that concern kyiv itself that at least the section what exactly is the burial of the soldiers? finally, the kyiv authorities said that the authorities themselves will deal with this and now some project of a solution is being prepared so that the improvement will take place only now for ugu under the e-e

precisely by the supervision of the kyiv authorities, but for example in lviv there was no such issue immediately since the 14th year. the authorities took care of these plots in the cemetery, and in kyiv it is only now happening and in fact it is a very strange situation, i do not understand why, for example , in kyiv now spend money for some small towns and flower beds in remote areas, er, sleeping areas of the city. and why is it in a dilapidated state? we have military burials, well, this is very strange. this is a question for the kyiv authorities . thank you natalya, i will only add that er about samura gumbo , a fighter of the 130th territorial defense battalion of the city of kyiv died heroically on june 28, 2022 in the kharkiv region, they are defending the territorial integrity and independence of ukraine