[000:00:00;00] they came there after the 14th year, do you know how many 840,000? here they are going to run if there is no bridge - it will be like that later, remember the films about the fall of wrangel, they will throw themselves into the sea . husband of the general of the army of ukraine head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine from the fifth to the 10th years thank you, mr. mykola , we are very good at diplomacy. and now it is worth talking about diplomacy, because according to the state of affairs, at least i can't accept it to understand what will happen next volodymyr khandogiy president of the ukrainian foreign policy association extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine good health mr. volodymyr i am glad to see you thank you for finding time for us congratulations congratulations this is somewhere look i have a very practical question for you, but the question is imaginary because we with you, we can only imagine . we can't, we don't know what's happening in

hmm, berlin, brussels, washington, london . information has arrived that lukashenko is seriously ill, some are already writing that he has died. well, okay let's not talk about it although everyone is internally excited and in some way i suspect that the ukrainians are excited in a positive direction and maybe the belarusians are excited in a positive direction, but what is happening in the capitals, everything can even be free of this and in warsaw, well, what to do with the belarusians, what in putin is also tswang, he has no troops to send them there, because the troops are all in ukraine. here he has all relations exclusively with putin and he is in moscow, and if he dies in moscow and is homeless, as they said in the soviet

union, belarus remains. and what about such western diplomacy should do in such cases, did he call? what do you think? is the ambassador already there, what are the remains of ambassadors somewhere in belarus, in the ministry of foreign affairs, or what should diplomacy do in such cases, when it is necessary to at least know whether he is alive or dead, if he is dead, who is in his place? and so on and so on that i will tell him, you know me better, mr. volodymyr, well, look at what , in my opinion, all the diplomats say in those capitals that you listed, and not only in them. and in others, they sit with bated breath and wait on whether the information that was spread is true or confirmed. well, not recently, and it was spread, you understand, by the belarusian opposition, well, with all due respect to the position, there were phrases like, according to unverified data, the information

needs further clarification and so on, so i watched some tapes of foreign publications after hearing this information, and i have not yet seen on such authoritative sites, let's say bbc or fox news or some other uh, information about the fact that hm lukashenko in he is in a critical condition in a hospital in moscow and all that. therefore, diplomacy, of course, at this time, at these minutes, at these hours, should , so to speak, use all the available contacts that it has . to get the official well, if unofficial, then at least confirmation from several sources about what happened to oleksandr hryhorovych, of course, everyone is waiting for some drastic measures

, or whether someone will make a statement this evening and we have to wait. will that be all? as they wrote this, they passed it on to belarusian oppositionists, but in principle, if it is so, after thinking about it, what will it mean for europe, for ukraine, in particular, this is a significant event if, god forbid, we do not expect anyone to have fatal endings in their lives. let him god will give health as much as it is measured to him, but still, if he leaves the ranks, let's say so , absolutely clear new perspectives will open up, first of all, for belarus. i think that for belarus this will be a landmark event

, it will be a unique chance. it is given once. maybe in history and how belarus will take advantage of this chance, we will have to see, but again , let's be a little patient, let's wait, after all , what is really happening in moscow with mr. i just really somehow didn't look at it, and now the president of kazakhstan prompted me. and it's really nuclear weapons one for two . what is this completely new format? we knew five countries that have official nuclear weapons . we know countries that unofficially have them there. israel is there, uh, the south african republic, we know that north korea has it semi-officially, and so on, we know india and pakistan, and here suddenly there is such an option that the world simply did not know, is there any

answer to such a challenge when one country says a uh we are a union state and we will now have nuclear weapons оружие обочение well, then we have five or six nuclear states . yesterday i laughed and said, well, the courts. she is also the founder of the un, which means that a chair in the security council must have already vetoed giving belarus nuclear weapons. war on the side allies, the founder is going if this one is planted there, how should the world react, but look, first of all, let us clearly understand this, you know, a figure of speech, one nuclear weapon for two, in fact, what we are talking about, officially, it is

about the placement of nuclear weapons of the russian federation, which belong to the russian federation on the territories of other states, there are precedents for such , so to speak, political steps in the past, and nuclear weapons are placed on the territories of other states. of course , many states of the world do not like this, especially non-nuclear, which clearly require that the weapons of one or another state that already owns them do not cross this border , especially regarding non-proliferation. so to speak, in line with the general chinese position, he said about it that it is one for two, but in fact, again, it is uh , he

has no access to control belarus by using this weapon, and i don’t think that it will have it after this very the united states of america is clearly tracking other nuclear states that are bound by obligations under the non-proliferation treaty. this is how this weapon is spreading, but it is more about those states where it was secretly made, let's say , or has already been made in violation of those obligations. things they did not take them on, neither pakistan nor india nor others. they did not join the treaty on the trial and therefore they consider themselves, let's say, from a legal point of view, clean here, so they made these nuclear weapons in such and such a way now the russian federation and belarus are demonstrating that this is about placement. i think that this step was taken

primarily with the aim, so to speak, to put pressure on europe , to put pressure on the united states of america , to frighten. in the algorithm of the actions of the russian federation, he has recently continued to intimidate, not to intimidate, to say that we will use it, this, too, there is such political pressure, but in reality, of course, this is very negative for ukraine in the first place. will be together with putin to press the button. it seems to me that this is not entirely true, and i think that russia is too. you know, it will not give it, but see when yes, i absolutely agree with you, there were many such things in history , after all, during the cold war , the americans placed weapons in western europe yes, but they

clearly explained everything from the same issue in the articulation of positions when the americans put their rockets, but we put them there, they stand like that. we have such a transparent agreement with germany, so what can be done tell us germany what we can say and there will be consultations before the launch in case of which god forbid and so on and here they are such cunning guys like that and we are posting as on what bases who guards who has control of this they no one says and neither putin nor this you imagine this picture, so to speak, understanding the background and diplomatically military , look, you are absolutely right, when the so-called first pershing two were placed on the territory of western germany, then you decided , do you remember what cry the soviet union raised how he accused everyone and everything of just proliferation and yet another and indeed on the side of the united states and there was more such an open

position and they all convinced that it was just a purely tactical step what was there well as an answer there were arguments now there are practically no arguments but it is necessary to say that regarding the location or placement of nuclear weapons of the russian federation on the territory of belarus, an agreement was signed , it was signed by the minister of defense, that he and the minister of foreign affairs, e.e., the minister of the border defense of belarus and in it well, of course, it was not published well, maybe it was published somewhere, but i am not in the secret marking of the contract, but i think that this is the treaty and the formal legal basis that allows skaz to place these weapons in this way, and here too yes, this is my personal observation. perhaps i drew attention to the fact that the united

states of america, of course, is very closely monitoring the movement of nuclear weapons around the world. well, i don't recall any such harsh statements in relation to this step. of the russian federation and, accordingly, the readiness of belarus to accept this weapon, this tells me that in principle there are some tactical or strategic sums in the placement or there is a potential potential possibility of its use with the fact that it has now moved to the territory of belarus. look at this, of course. we must react accordingly. it is us and ukraine in the first place. since we are neighbors in belarus, but the nuclear states are, in my opinion, the first thing that should have been done is

to convene the security council on this issue to bring up this issue maybe they held such consultations there somewhere, but you know, in the public sphere, it did not sound very strongly, but still, even the fact that the security council at the moment is patent there to a certain extent and there is russia he has the right to know, but to hold a discussion, curse, as they say, these steps of the russian federation, in particular, belarus . it seems to me that this is the minimum that the world community could do. volodymyr, the last one is also very diplomatic. please, what is the formula of the peace of the so-called kremlin well, we heard it there yesterday or the day before yesterday, it is similar to an ultimatum, now the question arises, usually ultimatums. that is, you do this, this, this, and the ultimatum is when after you do this, this, and this

and then we will do this to you, that is, when i mention the ultimatum, it is always, and here is some strange moment that they understood in advance the demands to which they themselves know that ukraine will not go. you are talking about creams, you are leading troops stop resisting give up your weapons er leave us your territory and then everything will be fine well well absurd and then we will talk with you end of this phrase and what to talk about then well, it's not clear, i think it's well, actually, it's another er, another step is absolutely er and relevant, it does not lead to anything, it is another attempt by the kremlin to fix its position, and it seemed to me, you know how they act along the lines of the old algorithm of the soviet union, when they are periodically

thrown onto the table or some other public plane such attractive positions, as they said earlier, when there are absolutely huge ambitions, but in fact it leaves an opportunity in the future to slide to more such down-to-earth to more realistic positions. if suddenly at some stage there will be negotiations , that is, you know. to comment on this at all, because to date our position has been absolutely clearly fixed on some negotiations despite the fact that the troops of the russian federation remain on the territory of ukraine and on the prolongation of the occupation of certain parts of our territories, well, in general, this is out of the question, and everyone else has already agreed with this. well, maybe this is still calculated for china in some way to keep him there in which we have a daughter. well, actually, it’s another promotion

, nothing new was said or you are a propaganda campaign, it is again aimed at internal consumption to show our people that it is possible that you see how generous we are, that we are ready for victory . ambassador plenipotentiary thank you, what does time mean for us, and we are moving to an even more vigilant and vigilant look at these nuclear affairs between russia and belarus pavlo feat, a researcher at the un research institute in the field of disarmament in geneva, the head of the russian nuclear forces project, hello , hello, thank you, we found for

it's our time, we are talking about it here today, all day we are talking about the fact that nuclear weapons are already expensive, the belarusian president is talking about it, and with the pens i am such a ukrainian scumbag, a friend of the hand, there is a public that everything is fine was perfectly put to the question by the kazakh president, and how would he say, as i translated it. well, what to do with it , one weapon for two, and we do not know what kind of uh, what is available, i will introduce it because we only talked about it when it was the cold war, the americans also put their weapons in western europe , but they did it transparently, we understood the situation, where are the conditions, who protects , can they fly missiles without notifying the governments of germany or holland, or can't well, in short, we presented a picture of ourselves now we don't know the pictures at all, two people

quietly signed something in minsk, and nobody knows what they signed, how they are, where they are, what conditions they are on, nobody knows, please tell us, lord, well, here, in fact, i will correct you first in relation to american weapons in europe, in fact, strictly speaking, we do not know, that is, not the americans, not the countries , where the weapon is located, they do not formally recognize where it is and how it is located, another matter. that these are all places of basing they are famous, but they are well-known because of the work of researchers, of my colleagues , in particular, in america and in other countries , that is, and in what way were you absolutely correct in that it is not true that american weapons are placed there in

in europe, the control of these weapons undoubtedly remains in the hands of the united states, but with regard to russia and belarus, i must say that the situation here is also completely unambiguous, that is , the weapon will remain completely under the control of the russian troops. there are no other options if i am correct i remember. and in the last statement there, it was confirmed, and that is, it will be even if it’s big, even if the weapon will eventually be imported somewhere into the territory of belarus, it will still be protected by russian troops and serviced and provided with security, all of this will be specialists are special special management in the minister of the party 12th main management and the exact same system , by the way, exists in and in russia itself , that is, all the a-a nuclear charges that are here

except for those that are installed on the border continental ballistic missiles or missiles on submarines, and here they are all lying in warehouses, and the names of these troops of the 12th chapter of the 12th chapter a-a and-y will be completely the same situation, eh, and in belarus , not to mention eh- eh, to make some decisions about its use or something else here. i think you don’t even need to assume. and all this will be done by exclusive russia. i actually have a separate phone if something happens, either i called somewhere in russia near moscow, i don’t know moscow, or i am called from there by some head

of the strategic commanders there or some forces and in general that’s when a you can do something to make it fly, i can't do anything, it won't fly from my suggestion, no matter how much i don't want it to fly, if it's possible to imagine anything like that at all, then it's necessary to redo everything for years and years to make it so that not in moscow and it's very technological it is practically impossible and so on. and today the situation is the same. that is, if it is under the control of russia, it means only russia and no one else can do anything in 2-3 hours to transfer this own control . for sure, no one will be able to use it. and again, you understand

that if we are talking about non-strategic charges, that is, those that may appear in belarus, and that is there. how can you understand it? их этой былы концезования let's put it this way, the use of charges is so multi-stage, and it starts with the fact that you need these isoares, first of all, from this bunker, it will be enough to conditionally bring them to the plane or install them on the rocket and, er, perform the necessary necessary procedures there there are also security codes and so on. and this is the whole system, it is completely in the hands of the russian troops , and the russian military , and nobody can do anything without their knowledge. есть and even if there is any physical excitement that is difficult to imagine, and even then, someone will get

there and get his location, this container is there with a bomb, and conditionally, and then apply it , it will be impossible, again, without the participation of russian specialists who know the boards and social media application procedures and here are the codes that allow and read, that is, here i think it is necessary to use such an ugly thing , it is not sanctioned . so that you could clarify, except for the triad, that is, from the sea to the planes from the land. there are also so-called mobile bases. we used to understand in the 70s when all this was closed , but they didn’t explain how, because my dad there was engaged in closed topics. he said that

it all the things that he drives are what he drives on the railway, what he drives on huge machines, why is this made for the audience , in order not to fix the american , it is here today, and after a while it is already there 50 km away, and there are some places in siberia, where is it? constantly barrages along the railway and somewhere other places where huge machines are always carrying their own to catch at each specific moment, it's difficult, this is the first question , this is really an american, they don't see this, and what kind of missiles are there, these are strategic missiles , are these tactical missiles, and does the world see them that is , intelligence, rural scientific institutes that monitor space

. this is, er, now russia, these are rockets, er, topol, er, yars, and this is a strategic missile, this is an intercontinental missile, these are exactly the same missiles that i was talking about, that here are the inhabitants of the radial rocket, er, they are on duty, that's where they walk in these forests they walk with installed warheads, they are really ready for use, and they can be launched there within a few minutes , indeed, and what they are moving is done so that they cannot be was to find out. well, yes, it was determined of course, they will hide from everything, of course, it is impossible, of course, that the satellites see them one way or another, but uh, again, the probability that that is, some part is playing, it survives

, it exists and these probabilities are enough for them to represent the the deterrent ponzal of the retaliatory strike and it's very important that what , er , the missiles that you are showing on the screen now, so to speak including to become and strategic bombers, they don't always drive, they don't fly, uh, on fixed-mounted warheads , that is, there is no such situation that you have such a language, uh , where do they get there through uh, pobryansk, uh, or belgorod forests, and with nuclear warheads on there is no such thing on board, but the warheads for these missiles are for those that exist , they lie in the warehouse, they lie in a special storage, and those that cannot be

close enough to the location of the missiles, but still , it is at least a few kilometers away, and so that here is how to use this system. and then you need a voice. first , from this warehouse, from this bunker, it will eat, load them , the special nato truck will lead to that rocket, or to that, say, uh, the plane that will deliver and install it, then hang it already it's tell me they can be a-a applied and it's clear that this is a procedure it too er-er it takes time and requires certain efforts and how can i understand er-er it will be visible if something of this kind will happen here and if k we 'll take these skandars, and it will be a warhead one way or another, it has been noticed, and uh, sorry that you always ask a very important question, i

hope i will meet you again on the air and angela will talk about it in more detail. well, it 's very interesting to me. viewers, tell me what are the dump trucks or what do they call them, children, the big machines that carry these warheads, they were american in the 90s, a-a, the russians didn’t have them, or they didn’t have enough, and they ordered eh, and many of these machines that they are tied to are from america. i don't think i'm squeezing hard . they weren't quite there. yes, there were railway stations a wagon with large containers that provided protection, but let’s say you had a large container, american or british, and inside it were russian soviet containers, er, and as the people who participated in this told me, er, the russian russian military is very attention was paid to the fact that

no foreigners saw, so to speak , russian containers, they made us such a big box. explanations but very important question this is a really important question i know for sure what you know but it can be a big global secret how are the studies going, which ones will be done , which ones are generally designed to make nuclear war impossible, the americans say we will come up with something, it is still difficult and cumbersome dear well, the same star wars that reagan talked about in his time, which turned out to be impossible, but i know for sure that someone in the world, i don't know, americans, japanese , chinese, a scientist thinks there, what to do so

that the one who launches the rocket is the first and suffered such a thing is going on somewhere you such and such hmmm no one is working and they will come up with something that is so complicated mmm there is the most reliable way it will destroy nuclear weapons and in my opinion this is quite a reasonable real task - that is, it will destroy it in the sense of making its use impossible. it is not admissible , and it is criminal, if you want, and you must make sure that you remove everything from the charges and the warheads. the further, the better, and there they will be disassembled and, uh, so to speak, on this, uh, on етом всё онлайн that is, this is not a scientific approach, but a diplomatic legal approach, that is, we are of course