[000:00:00;00] when the revolution took place in armenia, russia began to treat armenia roughly like ukraine during yushchenko's time, how dare they, everything was planned in our country, that means president saxon turns the country into a parliamentary republic after two terms of office, he becomes the prime minister, and we with him further, uh, cooperative, some people took to the streets, defeated this corrupt government, pashanyan became the prime minister. well, you know how moscow treats some people on the street, and in principle, a strategy of punishment was developed what does the strategy of punishing armenia mean in moscow's version? nothing special can be done. you don't even need to intervene in the war. you don't even need to help azerbaijan, although you know that it is a strange situation when russia, which is a member of the communist party of ukraine and armenia is a member of the dcp. at the same time, russia sells weapons to azerbaijan. i know that it is a banana. it is

located in a conflict with each other, it is strange , but the regime in azerbaijan itself is more understandable for russia, it is a hereditary regime, which maliyev is the son of heydar aliyev heydar aliyev , colonel-general of the state security committee of the soviet union, a member of the bureau of the central committee of the communist party of the soviet union in azerbaijan, the first deputy chairman of the council of ministers of the soviet union. he almost became the head of the entire soviet union , i would carefully say that he should not have any claims from the chameleon about our happiness . because knowing aliyev's political ideas, i convinced him more than once , personally, i think we could live in the soviet union now. well, you couldn't now because gaidar aliyev was 100 years old, but maybe ilkha maliyev was now a general slippers i'm not surprised, this is such a family, well, jokes, jokes, but it's an understandable

regime, the leader understood and in armenia, they didn't understand the regime and it's unclear, it's clear that it's a union country, but you can simply not interfere, but interfere exclusively in the affairs of karabakh. karabakh there are russian peacekeepers, you know the first thing what did the russians do when they put their russian peacekeepers there, they introduced the study of the russian language in the armenian schools of karabakh well, no, this is strange because these people are in karabakh in order to preserve the armenian heritage. russia doesn't always spin like that, it does the truth , yes, this is a good and good illustration, that's because they are peacekeepers. vitaliy sounds like everything ron, you know. both countries had no transfers they will not so easily support one side now they are not interfering by and large we will do it at some point they may stop doing so they may start interfering

with azerbaijan and not interfering with armenia because when koshenian is spoken, you know we will leave the odkb. and you know. we will start buying cossack weapons from western countries . and you know that the odkb does not help us, and you know that we will not participate in your exercises. russia is beginning to understand that it can lose the armenians, that it gambled on a large scale, armenia and russia have no common borders. and if russia , through the mediation of the united states or france or all of them, negotiates with azerbaijan and receives some guarantees of its own security in the form of the united states states or too much, what can they do to make russia pour salt on its tail, it is powerless there, that is, all its power is only in the bad relations between azerbaijan and turkey with

armenia, only in this, as soon as the relations between turkey, azerbaijan and armenia are normalized, as soon as it turns out that there is no russia there iran can be there, it can be stored there, but russia is there, the question just arises. well, what are you doing there? why are you needed there? god knows where your borders are. russia has a border with georgia, it has a border with azerbaijan, it is also a difficult border, things and it will not be easy. i think that there is still an escalation ahead because there is the issue of the people of dagestan, which from the point of view of russia is divided by the russian-azerbaijani border . so far it looks like this, pashenyal perfectly understands that he can blackmail moscow for the normalization of relations, and he does it until a certain point . thank you for clarifying mr.

vitaly. and that the agreement was built well, it will be like a new milestone, the truth is not the final point in these relations and in this war for nagorno-karabakh in essence, but let's talk more about what directly concerns us , the chinese envoy liguei traveled traveled through ukraine in europe and decided, you know. such a conclusion is very strange for me to draw from the point of view that our representatives and representatives of our government clearly explained to him that they support only the peace formula that ukraine dictates without giving up territories and so on, but he somehow listened and either he did not hear or he was pushing his line , but he said that the territory must be given and then the war ends. foreign affairs of ukraine , by the way, said that he did not say that, there is such a refutation from kyiv regarding the chinese position. well, she is absolutely clear. china has several tasks, first

task - this is number one - it is even on the issue of war, it is to quarrel europe and the united states, and what he said, it was not just that the war there should end with the status quo, he said that you should take your own position, your own eyes, everyone history's own position is that the united states is ready to continue this war until the parties are exhausted. but this will be a problem for europe, so you better stop this war, how to stop it, stop it at the status quo, so that ukraine recognizes the pact of territorial reals that russia is talking about, so that russia recognizes that they are no longer fighting with ukraine. well, what we talked about is the terms of peace. i don’t see anything similar in this. i think that they heard it for the sake of it, and in principle, what do they think? they think that the moment will come when it becomes it is clear that the troops of both warring parties will not advance further, only victims will already be such that, in principle, the society of both countries will not be able to accept the fact of the constant death of their compatriots, and in ukraine and

in russia they only foreshadowed well, you have, you have modern weapons and you have i hope that time will not help you. but you are simply turning into a cemetery. both countries, ukraine and russia, are two such huge cemeteries. well, if you want to convert, we are interested in the difference, but if you want to end the war, we have a simple plan. there is an ongoing war between russia and ukraine, because this war helps them to strengthen in both, this war undermines the russian economy , russia is becoming more and more dependent on china, since they can operate freely in central asia, there this summit is central asia, from the chinese, everything is clear, and it seems to me that it is absolutely logical actions of china this war weakens the western economy-2 this war allows you to play in the future at least as they hope for contradictions between uh europe and the west rats sometimes we have china

in our blood well will it be part of russia well well, it won’t be part of russia, it’s still clear that after the war it will be an economy that will need investment one way or another , the chinese can try here, they can play this game, they can not play, well, that is, it’s not the same market , you already understand what it was like before the war therefore, china i think worries as much about the economic component as the political component of this story, that is , the use by russia as a tool of easing measures and the use of war as part of this relaxation. well, in fact, we cannot do anything so that their opinions the water has changed, an authoritarian country, we are on the other side of the barricade, and in order to do something, we have to go to the other side of the barricade where china is located in russia , or be stronger than them , we cannot be stronger than them, because for them there can only be a whole the whole civilized world, but you don't know that we will change their minds, we are for it , this means that we can simply not

pay attention to their position. they might have reckoned with us more if they were stronger , i don't think so. a population with nuclear weapons with a huge consumer market in the west of a country the size of ukraine in general, they do not play a huge role , only vdiagnevich when you cannot be used as a tool or for the current actions related to the failure between the european union and the united states that too by the way or none success doesn't end with success doesn't end or how is the market uh let's say corruption of the local elite china will do this i think by the way that after the war he will try to take the place of russia here they they will simply spend money in order to corrupt the local summer, knowing that the elites like it, we already talked about it when we talked about the judge. i think that there will be a lot of people here who will work for chinese interests and undermine the european euro-atlantic integration of ukraine. we do not even doubt these low positions i think that they already are. so it's all uh, it's absolutely

logical what they're doing and i'm not surprised because i basically thought that nothing else would happen. but even their proposals are peacemakers. let's give up unilateral sanctions or in sanctions, we will introduce it only er radbes, that is, never, well, it was all absolutely clear , the actions of the people's republic of china were completely clear, i am not surprised at all. to be honest, this is happening. as it should have happened , the united states of america still has such levers of control over china or no, but no one has any opportunity to manage katya. by the way, russia can only create economic conditions that will force the chinese to think about whether they should lead this or that line of behavior, but you see that if this does not go very well with the russians, who are much more vulnerable from the point of view of their current situation, so why should this happen with the chinese, who are not even under

sanctions, who are not even mostly under secondary sanctions, well, the united states is aware of this danger from china, but there is much they can do in this the economic situation that we are all in, it was not necessary to place all the enterprises in china and then think that it can be influenced. this is how you always talk about the mediation of china, after all, i want to be such a great mediator between ukraine and russia, and also this week in south africa, the republic of south africa expressed the position that they could become this platform for the peace search formula, and the vatican spoke about it again. will be ineffective for us. i think that the vatican deals with the humanitarian component , i would take this history without parentheses to

a certain extent, although also conditionally in relation to the south african republic in relation to brazil in relation to the solodian arabia, that's all chinese diplomacy in different guises, you know, like in the chinese theater with a lot of famous people. there are different masks . and they are playing some roles, but this is mask. these people who are now engaged in conditional mediation between russia and ukraine in the country of the global rooster have a special interest not in us but to the people's republic of china, president luula, with whom, by the way , the president spoke today, he announced all his peace-making initiatives almost before and during his visit to beijing. the president of the republic of south africa, ramaphos, recently held joint naval training with the people's republic of china and the russian federation from all the presidents of african countries who are going to kyiv and moscow

together with one not connected with china by any special relations, prince of saudi arabia muhammed bendselman, who invited volodymyr zelenskyi to meet here before with this, with the help of china, he was able to agree on the restoration of diplomatic relations so that he is a huge debtor to china, because thanks to china , rockets from yemen may not fly at his country now. and this is a huge diplomatic achievements, that is, china is simply trying to convince in different forms that its position of ending the war without conditions has support in the world, that is the western position to continue the war and supply weapons from the position of the global level , it is important to end the war on the territory, no, no, restoration

of international law, injustice. stop shooting if if this position of china should be clearly outlined we should just stop shooting well we have already been through it for some reason they don't tell us they keep telling us we should just stop shooting well conditionally we need peace, we need to sit down at the negotiating table, but he doesn't say that to putin, well, let's see what i'll tell you. of course , he's talking to me . because putin, why should he say that ? there was a large-scale invasion in turkey and also in belarus, and there was nothing. well, russia was ready for negotiations, then now it is kyiv , which is not constructive. the idea is very simple, and by the way, president lui also speaks about it. all the rest of ukraine and russia do not want peace, but that what russia does not want peace. it is clear because this war is not happening. on its territory, it is not reflected on its birth, on its economy, by and large, it somehow

manages there, but why does it not want peace in ukraine , from which there may not be anything left in a few years? it is not clear to us about the war, it is kind of unforgiving, and the government does not think about its people who are dying, this government does not think about its economy, which is collapsing, why is it peace-loving ? here is all the cynicism of the village. by the way, i wanted to ask about the president of brazil because a situation arose when allegedly president zelenskyy was supposed to meet with him in the fields of jaisov, so the meeting was held in hiroshima and he did not meet in the president's office, it was commented on and explained by the fact that some plans and schedules did not match and so on, but as reported the brazilian press, their leader said that the ukrainian president did not come to the planned meeting, they say that even the president of brazil was waiting for him , somehow, he was there to receive someone else, ah, the president of vietnam, to wait for zelensky, but

zelensky did not show up. and they say that he did not i was disappointed but saddened that the meeting did not take place. vitaly well, perhaps our president should have found time for talks with the leader of brazil in order to also present some of his arguments and so that their position with china was not so harmonious . the president met with the political leader of the brazilian president i don't think that during this meeting he won't hear any romances, we see the position of the president of brazil, it doesn't change. i don't know the reasons why this meeting didn't take place. i think that the president of ukraine had his motives, just what we don't know that, you know, i'm not ready to trust everything that the president of the club says. he said a lot of different things in his career , you know, it's not the same, oh, zelensky probably doesn't tell us everything, but the president of the club says everything . the president of the club, you know, such a person is not easy. to put it mildly, secondly , i absolutely do not understand. how can we convince president lula when we

have no money, china offers brazil many billions of investments, what can the president of ukraine offer now, the president is offended . well, nothing. well, the nobel peace prize for settlement of the conflict, but you know this, there must be three people in this tango in order for president lula to be awarded the nobel prize, prime ministers need what president putin said well, yes, i am ready to withdraw troops from ukraine if president zelenskyy says we are interested in your peace plan, and president putin says well for hai they will recognize the territorial reality, they will leave our territories , they will be demilitarized, they will be identified

, they will join nato, the european union will disappear altogether. i say right away that these countries will not solve anything. neither china nor brazil. and in south africa, saudi arabia, any such peacemaking makes sense only when there is really good will of the parties to agree on something real, a real reprimand could go for some kind of financial and military assistance, well, china already won't help us, we understand what they can do, i think it's a pity because helping china means that we are turning into an authoritarian dictatorship, china just doesn't help. so i just think that it's not a pity an absolutely clear place, we will either be a democracy or a dictatorship china will help as soon as we become a cheerful russia the next day how will belarus be okay well, by the way, somehow violently he helps lukashenko , by the way, we can't help but remember lukashenka 's father appeared after all

he didn't die and he wasn't very sick, maybe he was sick, he said that you wouldn't wait for his death. if you write briefly about his death, that he will still live and live, that he was sick with some kind of infection a few weeks ago, he did not appear at official meetings, and mr. vitaly well, after all, it is possible to conclude that his health has failed or he is making excuses. lukashenko may not be a very healthy person. this is absolutely normal for his age and he can really live in this condition for another 10 years to rule belarus under we have seen sick dictators, you see the president could in such a state i would say in a state of semi-e-e plants crawled through the country until 90 or so years and was dropped only because he lost any adequacy lukashenko that everything is fine with adequacy so i think that not there is no need to rush, he really may have health problems , we don't know how serious it is, i always say to everyone who is preparing for the death of putin, for the death of lukashenka, it is necessary to make sure that

they do not catch a cold at our funeral, because they have the opportunity to use weapons and we have the opportunity exclusively for you to discuss their state of health. our task is that they do not shoot at us and that they cannot behave as an aggressor in relation to our country. and how long they will live, no one knows. on may 25, the minister of defense of russia and in belarus, serhiy shulgu and viktor khrenin signed an agreement on the procedure for placing russian non-strategic nuclear weapons in belarus, and lukashenko noted with satisfaction that nuclear weapons have already begun to be placed on the territory of belarus, but in fact it is no less important where they are located. why are they doing such a thing? russia can. place your nuclear weapons anywhere in the allied countries and no one can stop them , we have known all these tricks for a long time, and

it seems to me that everyone understands that the location of the nuclear weapons in belgorodsk the region, by the way, where it was just located there on the border with ukraine, something amazing and or in one of the regions of belarus practically nothing changes practically nothing changes and this must be realized once and for all it must be realized that the russian federation is simply trying to play the soviet union or the soviet union there were opportunities to place some smartphone-based tools in various countries of the so-called socialist camp and the soviet union, which organized peaceful demonstrations in the countries of the west, but not to american pershings everyone took to the streets, my god, the german land cannot go to war from it, while in eastern germany, which was under the actual occupation of moscow, no one can demonstrate , well, it’s fine, too, now

you understand, since there is no eastern germany , there is no poland, the czech republic, slovakia, hungary there is nothing you want, there is only one belarus, because even in kazakhstan, uzbekistan, you don't understand it anymore, so we will play the soviet union, with the participation of us there is one actor who can play the role of all these socialists at the same time leaders oleksandr lukashenko, let him play the role of our vassal, i will play, i will think that i am brezhnev, he is some kind of erichoniker, well, well , let it be, if there was some classical meaning in this, i told him that it was military, you know, they moved there, the weapons are creates a new danger for ukraine or for non -ukraine. that's all, but the transfer of warheads is a violation of the principle of the taboo that exists among internuclear states. will the world leaders react to this or will they simply ignore it? i

think there will be no special reaction because no one thinks that this is a particular violation of what has already been violated , well, everyone sees that russia violates the rules wherever possible, everyone expressed their concern, by and large, it does not change anything after that, and what can i do , it is the chemistry of the state, well move some of your weapons, you understand, because russia says that, you know, and the united states has placed its electricity there in other countries , only it has been there for a long time, most of it has been dismantled and taken away. there is nothing there. one thing does not solve anything because everyone perfectly understands that a confrontation with the soviet russian federation and the united states is a confrontation with the use of strategic nuclear weapons, you understand when the soviet union was the soviet union and when nikita khrushchev carried out this operation with the placement of missiles on the cube, it was possible to understand that's nothing

there was no good in this but there was logic in this, here we are literally 20 km from the coast of the united states, he has placed missiles here that can carry a nuclear charge, we can attack the united states right here, and the united states the united states then said that i listened to the fact that you put your weapons here, it could lead to the third world war, because we will not let you do it, we will attack you first . they just travel with their nuclear weapons, and it must be understood that in any case , the president of the russian federation, lukashenko, is responsible for these nuclear weapons . he still can't do anything with these weapons. stupid, you know, because from his point of view, he becomes a player, not his , he becomes the president of a country on the territory of which, uh, there are nuclear weapons, only he has no suitcases, you know, if

i get a new car, it will be in the garage, but i won't be able to drive it to the garage to look at it, to wipe the dust from it , to wipe the mirror, to look at myself, to say , this is a beautiful car, to bring friends. the enemy does not understand absolutely that as a result of some conditionally nuclear conflict, belarus turns into a target for this to play on the conflict, which has not happened until this moment, he drove himself into this dead end, we, he likes this dead end, because i say again for you, it is a dead end for him this is proof of his importance and you know what else could happen that he believes that in this situation putin cannot abandon him. imagine belarusians taking to the streets again. we have understood that

the lukashenko regime will collapse or can it let russia in now that it understands that its nuclear weapons are there. and if there is some other government there and it says, excuse me . and we don’t understand why your nuclear weapons are here, or at all, it doesn’t want to give russia these nuclear weapons. and even if it is to be tolled by something like that, then lukashenko can always scare putin listen to me blame your own people and your people's orders because the russians will come you don't understand we have their nuclear weapons i am the guarantor of their nuclear weapons i am more than putin on our territory well of course we will talk more there is a statement from france that this country is ready to provide security guarantees to our state by concluding an appropriate agreement on this message. the ministry of foreign affairs of france is currently discussing with its partners what would be

the best way to support ukraine in all areas and for a long period of time . well, these conversations are taking place in many western countries and within on external platforms to do something so as not to take ukraine into nato, but supposedly to give it security guarantees, you and i have repeatedly discussed this topic, sir, in italy, but we want that you emphasize once again, and then what points should be there so that it is not nato membership, but that we still have these guarantees that are real and not just on paper, there are no such guarantees, this is a fiction, a fiction, there are simple guarantees that if you are attacked, it protects you another country that is ready to be with you has other guarantees if you are attacked, you are not protected by other countries that were supposed to be with you. it can simply provide you with weapons. this is not a guarantee of security. the page should be

called that, so how does it differ from the fact that is happening today and if, for example, all nato countries do not want to help ukraine, and france, for example, is ready and we will sign an agreement with it that in the event of an attack on ukraine, france will support us in this situation, france is actually going beyond its obligations under the nato bloc, france cannot to take it was knitting that will call into question her obligations over you understand because if we imagine that in the morning she signs an agreement with us separately or she enters for us alone and then she is attacked then it turns out that all countries nato should help her. well, this is the fifth article 12. well, who knows, there may be a mechanism for temporary guarantees, as finland and sweden received temporarily, so it may be that they want to take us into nato, but now the united states or great britain do not accept them, they give us

nuclear guarantees security is a tool for a certain time, but it is possible to sign an agreement by signing a separate agreement with the united states, but everyone says that it is based on the israeli model, but the united states is not fighting in the middle east , it is true, it is true, there is a voizel army, what about you, or the states, where will they give more money more weapons, such situations, they can do it, but the ukrainians will fight, who will fight, and i apologize, there is opposite israel , not the russian federation, that is why it is all a dead end, it is not easy , we need to understand it clearly, by the way, they often said, especially before a full-scale invasion, such topics were raised look how much the united states invested in afghanistan, well, it’s true and they

fought there, of course. the place is absolutely correct and here it can also end like that at a certain moment in not withdrawing the troops with the termination of, say, military aid in this amount. that is why it can be so. maybe it is politics. therefore, you must not just be morally ready for this video, it is not at this moment, you must be members nato, i understand very well that this will not happen at the vilnius summit, but then there is the fact that no one is and you can get an invitation there. although there is one more point , it seems that there was a column in new york times yesterday, it is important where the auto said that we should not discuss whether ukraine will liberate all its territories or not, because we do not know what this war looks like, but there was a federal republic of germany after the war , it believed that it had jurisdiction over all the territories of germany, but the soviet union did not recognize this jurisdiction, it recognized sovereignty of the german democratic republic, moreover, there was a time in the 20s when the federal republic of germany broke off