[000:00:00;00] well, the third nuclear potential in the world, but there is another side of the coin, and the placement of nuclear charges on your territory makes your country safer in general, well, this is a big question, because this storage of tactical nuclear weapons, to which lukashenka has no access, it is a target in in principle, therefore, there are many aspects that need to be analyzed. how will the situation change, but i will say one thing, and you , there have been no nuclear weapons tests for a very long time , and no one knows how these charges will behave , that is, in fact, in any case, before i will try to demonstrate something to someone, they will wave at a nuclear man. there will be some tests . for now

, i can say that apart from statements and such preparatory movements , the situation itself has changed. the degree of escalation, nothing good can come of it, that's why ukraine needs to think not only about the current moments, although they are still the most critical , the most important thing is the front and de-occupation territory, and think about how we defend our position when there will be, uh, other arguments are already being used, missiles, nuclear weapons, uh , different carriers, planes, ships, do we have anything to say here and where to balance because, in principle , weapons of this kind are not used uh and should not be applied. it has a deterrent factor, and there is one more point, what is tactical

nuclear weapons? well, everyone probably remembers our panic. last year, i think that political missiles will fly into ukraine, this is not so. to use i mean strategic and political, but it will not be through the kanders, which we will now see after the examination. is it the iskander-m through the skandika, which can carry a tactical charge, they are also in kaliningrad? well, in the region, they are, apparently, the russians want to demonstrate to us what about kyiv from the volume that is, this is such a clear signal and we need to look for answers , and one more moment i will say a paradoxical thing, maybe someone will say this with criticism, but uh, well, why hasn't russia used tactical nuclear weapons yet, because if

it is somewhere will apply it will hit very hard in russia itself, but it will achieve minimal military success because tactical nuclear weapons in soviet times - this was an absolutely legitimate element of conducting an army operation in soviet times, where a charge is first used, and then they go , equipped accordingly with protection, and the same equipment goes after a couple of hours, they enter that zone. that is, it was considered that these are weapons of mass destruction, not destruction, that is, that is why it seems to me that this accumulation by the soviet union, which is much more than in the united states, of nuclear weapons of such a tactical nature, has large countries still give an answer, but i don’t know why the usa is so calmly watching all the tricks of the russians about withdrawing

from the basic treaties from the treaty on sno3, reducing offensive weapons from even the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe, the us should do one thing for words putin is provocative that we will get out of the reduction, this village is three to say god is with you terrorists go and we will now minute three we will do what will you do russia will collapse in 3 years completely russia will not exist like the soviet union usa they do not do this, there is the reaction of biden, but it is quite so restrained, because well, if he was already asked about that at the briefing, what he thinks about the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons by russia to belarus, he said very briefly , my reaction is extremely negative, but according to this answer, he is right that there are no actions because it is clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons will obviously open pandora's box for other countries that can

understand that it can be done because now the world lives in the conditions of er agreements agreements and also concluded certain memoranda that allow deterrence, if russia goes to the use of tactical nuclear weapons, it means that this entire architecture that was built where nuclear weapons were considered as a deterrent weapon may simply fall apart, or not ? they are delaying drastic actions. i don't understand them because well, for example , it was clear that russia was seizing bases on the territory of belarus, it was clear that the carriers of tactical weapons were being moved closer to the borders

, it was clear that development in crimea preserved these storage facilities for tactical nuclear weapons. that is, we need to take a step in advance. i think that this will not be an escalation , it will simply show decisive actions . russia, of all these regimes, i.e. the usa, we have to say that somehow they criticize everything, but reassure that russia is not taking real steps, but only threatening to make legal changes, as putin has repeated 10 times, we are not leaving, we are stopping so that washington will perceive everything correctly what are threats? but we are not going to implement them. well, the usa can say once and for all, listen, we are tired of your threats, they talk on the phone all the time, they talk to moscow. that is, you can say once that everything is enough, no

swinging of not only a nuclear club is enough strategic nuclear weapons, even mentions of weapons of mass destruction, and china should say it, if the countries do not say it, then i’m sorry. why did you disarm ukraine, what moral right do any of you have? then always talk about something before me asked by your partners there, sometimes they declare about nuclear weapons that this is a raise, such people are returning, you know, i have fewer and fewer arguments. now, how do i explain my position ? i am, for example, against ukraine trying to restore its nuclear potential. in such a development, pandora's box is already opening and this one will affect us, ukraine also needs to defend itself with something, and it is definitely not to put

50,100,000 people on the front, then we will throw all our efforts into making some kind of weapon containment on our territory, the largest deposits of uranium in europe on our territory, titanium on our territory, steel , thank god we still have some scientific opinion and some industrial opportunities left there, that is, i understand that our partners will beat us on our hands in any case not don't develop a missile, but also medium-range missiles , god forbid, they will think about some uranium there. we took everything we could from you there , yanukovych handed it over to the bam. that is, we wanted everything to be under control. well, i'm sorry. yes, then if yes, if this is the situation, what do you want to prove that russia has increased the degree of escalation to nuclear weapons , and if you don’t want to, give now missiles 500 km away, give

now planes and give now quickly close the possibility of blackmail for russia. i believe that a quick de-occupation of the territory will close this possibility and so while people are starting to digest something in their heads, where do the charges move, where are the carriers , this is the whole discussion, everyone is analyzing there , pseudo-experts are saying what it will be for people who and so on, that is, i think that approaches are wrong. at today's stage of regulating escalation, there should be an approach of prevention, that is, not deterrence, but not admission. why has nato not officially changed its current strategy yet, but voices are being heard to change the approach of prevention to prevention, because we have seen how russia acts and we need the united states with our partners which are very helpful to ukraine now to rethink

this strategy together, after all, non-admission and not admission is to date the maximum provision of ukraine everything for victory by the way, you mentioned about uh budapestsky memorandum and about how we actually renounced nuclear weapons, the same nonsense at the meeting with shoigu during the signing of the agreement on the transfer of russian nuclear weapons to the territory of belarus, they just mentioned the budapest memorandum and the belarusian minister mentioned that the non-compliance with the security guarantees given by the belarusians to the budapest memorandum 5 december 1994 , as well as the continuous bellicose rhetoric from the side of the collective action, allegedly forced belarus to take this step if ukraine declares

again that the non-admission of that this budapest memorandum, which guaranteed us security, is not being implemented and one of the signatories of the budapest memorandum , russia attacked ukraine, if we officially declare this, will it mean a violation of the agreements that we undertook , although this memorandum is no longer there is a memorandum, it is not an international treaty , it is still more of a political document and an agreement, but it is part of it, it has suddenly become relevant in the sense that we have reached the point of threats with nuclear weapons you will laugh, but russia thinks that it is fulfilling the budapest memorandum. although it has already reached the point of threatening nuclear weapons, but until the moment it did not use nuclear weapons against us, they think that they are fulfilling. well, that's the way it is. this is simply

not a cynical position. valery, there are hundreds of agreements that were concluded between ukraine and russia. well, in principle, the position of china, which joined there by letter, but still joined, is necessary. we do it. it ’s not that we don’t do it at every stage. it was done, it was used, and the relevant notes were sent so that the countries would clarify their position. i think that it is not worth relying on this politician physically and the document anymore and in general , we can rely on documents less and less. unfortunately, everything is very simple, the right of force is gaining more and more influence. rights recedes into the background until force by force restores the situation, nothing will be restored in international legal regulation, that's why in our case, because it's too much to emphasize, and i

don't hear much about it. well, maybe something is being done so secretly that we simply don't know anything, but i i would not like us to find ourselves in a broken trough if we do not receive umbrellas immediately, and at the same time there is no weapon of deterrence, that is, even now we have to ask the question of the cut or well, now i mean a year or two, fathers, this is the transition period when we will buy additional ukrainian territory or we are part of the system of collective security and we are inside this umbrella that covers us and makes it possible to jointly defend european security more cheaply and at the same time, in my opinion, russia will not dare to take any step even after against the whole such a group of nato countries at the point of nuclear usa france and britain or if it is not so then if it is absolutely not realistic although i

don't think so i don't think it is possible to reach such a solution then let's either have a bilateral agreement with a nuclear power that guarantees a response because we don't have nuclear weapons or excuse me, we will have to raise everything that is in ukraine, all the possibilities in order to make missiles that reach moscow and reach, as they like to say , the center of decision-making. no, you sit down , meaning those objects that are involved in such operations and this is what i am saying that there should be up to 5.5 thousand missiles at the first stage up to 1,000 km and there should be a thousand such missiles. i understand that this sounds very optimistic so far, but if we do not concentrate our efforts on this now, then there will be no point that is, we need to understand this strategy, because they can reassure us about guarantees, the so-called security guarantees, which i

can tell you freely, there is no security guarantee , there is none. these are just beautiful words, after which the issue of military-technical cooperation is simply closed. the deepening of the exchange of information, investments in the pcc, no guarantee of safety, we are considering not now, not in the future , no one is considering if we ukraine do not declare it all together clearly without a strong public , yes, there is no need, but we will simply not say during the negotiations or let us understand what will happen what is holding you back? show what is holding you back. and what will be decided if not, and all the forces of ukrainians should be directed to the production of carriers, and then time will tell. well, all the more so because we have good

potential and scientific, technical and scientific knowledge. illusion don't think that we don't have ourselves we don't have such potential anymore, we already have pieces of an island of this potential and we need to invest money there and we need to now simply caress these people and there so that they work on this issue because if it is not we will use huge dangers, always against this background, putin is sure that the future of russia is good because he knows what he wants and what goals he wants to achieve

. the future is good, first of all, later что мы знем чего мы хотим и знем what means do we achieve our goals? by the way , the leader of belarus, the current leader of belarus, is very good at barking at putin . that russia has challenged the unipolar world, it is at the forefront of these processes. well, lukashenko, somewhere nearby , we will hear more about lukashenka . perhaps what progressive humanity dreams of in the future and their unification, russia should be very active , its authorities, and i saw that there is a demand screaming in all

mass media against russia , huge russia has not abandoned the challenge, but in the polar world, russia is at the forefront of these processes. well, мы радио progressive humanity after all. as lukashenko says, something is waiting there, although you said that three years would be enough for the united states of america for russia to cease to exist. do you accept that the west is considering one of the options, after all, to agree on something with putin, because the way they behave and the way they observe the war between a nuclear state and a non-nuclear state shows that they are still considering one of the options what is there to agree on, or are they afraid of russia, that russia can blow up the whole world, well, with or without putin, when i say that

the usa needs three years, this is of course under certain circumstances, that is, it is meant that it was possible to secure a neutral position for china, india, brazil, that too, all lek usa and allies but it is necessary to concentrate so much on this. and the issue of foreign policy now i want to be for the first time somewhere in the top ten interests of the voters of the americans. that is, this is definitely not the first three months of america. uh, to vinnytsia or somewhere, you don’t ask this question, why is there a palace here and they don’t have a toilet there, and in america people ask such questions, so no one would allow it if they were conditionally american citizens, it’s impossible

what nationality are they, even russians, they allowed such adventurers as putin to do this at the expense of the lives or survival of their people, therefore, in principle , russia can do this as a resource . already depressed, and then he suddenly ran to rejoice because he saw that his people were going to the oboe. that is, it is possible to send them to their death to occupy other territories, it works, it opened his eyes to what is possible. well, i will remind you of one thing you ask why the usa? well, it should be combined, for example, i would pay attention to how in front of putin, when they came to the podium on may 9 with lukashenka, who was

sensitive near death, but they called him and they came, he had to sit. he was sitting, they showed him that to glorify the nuclear suitcase, there were two officers with two such cases, well, this is my guess, but something else. it is difficult to imagine, because the officers were of a rather high rank, that is, it was noticeable, it was captured on camera. anyone who wants can watch, and he specially led them around. putin led them around a nuclear suitcase well, parchment, which, unfortunately, is still working in the usa , and secondly, we don't know what to do with russia. and thirdly , well, let's do it, let them analyze, who cares, what money is left of the gas industry what money is left for chop companies what is the origin of this money, what companies are left to work in russia

, the world of business, or the world of big money, which is somehow waiting for what will happen in business in the south, but as a matter of fact, the war will not drag on for a long period of time, unfortunately, that's all what's going on now does lukashenko putin they they want to demonstrate that it will not be possible to stop them, that is, they will do it until the last moment, just until the last , here you show them how they go, and this is gusk . and it was a little bit. earlier, it was more like that when i was already leaving the parade, then the suitcases demonstrated it to them and of course for these countries, this is a threat, but it definitely shouldn’t be for the usa, and that’s why, for example, france took out its uh aircraft carrier right away, the british also showed that they have what they have now.

the question is, why then did the patrols in the black sea take place? every time, if you remember, we looked to see if there was a nato ship there with a sufficient volley of missiles to extinguish all the russian capabilities, and you took them out specifically before we knew what the russian attack would be. that’s why there are so many questions about russia they also know this, they don't want a collision, we understand that they don't want a collision, nato countries don't want a collision, well, with such actions , on the contrary, it can be brought closer, because the essence of russia is that they go as far as they are not stopped by force, and this, in my opinion, is already a clear understanding why do politicians still allow other interpretations? this is up to all politicians, because i will tell you that if you are sad, the answer is to fly to the living room for an election cycle for 4-5 years, and the effect of such a policy of deterring admission is given over a longer period. therefore

, it is possible that politicians do not they want them to lose the opportunity to be in power there, that there are some unpopular things for a part of society and they are not supported. well, this is the only reason i see, because military intelligence knows very well that russia can be stopped now by force by the way, one more question at the end of our conversation about georgia. putin is surprised by the reaction in contrast to the citizens of georgia. he says that he thought they would say thank you. they say that georgians are like that, well, they don't thank and don't bow. let's hear putin. for me, the reaction that followed was full of surprise. i thought that everyone would say it. thank you. good no. there's something wrong with it. it's not clear. it's unclear. that's why

i'm asking. it's very strange and it's just. honestly. well, unexpectedly. did he bite off 25% of the georgian territory, well, it means russia in general. he bombed in 2008, and they are not as grateful as he says, no, they do not bow to putin. and why is it tbilisi, tbilisi, too, in this case , the official played along, putin played along this time, they launched, they launched air services they did, that is, the regime that is in power now. it's obvious. the oligarch is the one who has money from russia and his government. they took such a step . i think they asked putin.

it’s you. look at this bullying, that is, he perfectly understands what he did and basically let them earn money, yes, because they want to make money from it, plus transit there to other airports. that is, this is keeping at least this georgian regime on a short leash. now the regime is sliding to uh well, unfortunately, such practices, which we hoped for, will no longer exist in georgia and are not in the form of security, but we talked a couple of days ago with rubber deputies of the parliament and my old friends, old friends who the expert environment, well, they understand it, but at the same time, it is not yet visible that there could be a change in approaches. so, in my opinion, this is a very short-sighted position of the leadership

of georgia now, because they will follow the uh path, well , nowhere, as lukashenko was taken under control. so i will take them thank you thank you mr. valery valery chaliy and politician-diplomat extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 was with us on the air friends we are with you as always we will meet at 1:00 p.m. roman kostenko and petro chernyk, two colonels, let's talk about what's happening in ukraine and on the eastern and southern fronts. goodbye europa league final on megogo. sevilla, the kings of the europa league, but on roma's side, the coach who won't lose the european cup finals. watch the super match on

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