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[000:00:00;00] hryvnias for these cars have already been collected for almost half of them. so let's work together dear tv viewers for a hryvnia at two o'clock or ten o'clock and oksana vysochanska and i will keep you informed in the future. well, we say goodbye until tomorrow, and then the espresso tv channel will continue the verdict with our colleague serhiy rudenko see you soon glory to ukraine this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today may 29, 460 days of heroic action of the ukrainian people against the russian occupiers 15th air attack on kyiv in may the occupiers are hitting the ukrainian capital with ballistic missiles and mortars at night and this morning, the russians attacked the ukrainian territory, including kyiv, the evil chinese
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representative who brought the peace plan to kyiv and to europe and to russia completed his mission erdogan won the elections in turkey russian occupiers and continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of may 29, russia has already lost 2,007,300 people in ukraine in the last day alone , the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 430 orks since the beginning of the war, the russians have already lost a large ukraine 3801 tank 746 brown armored vehicles 3435 artillery systems 575 rocket launchers 331
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air defense 331 kyiv in may nuclear approval lukashenka chinese trojan peace for ukraine we will talk about this and other things today for the next hour, i want to introduce today's guest - this politician-diplomat ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-2019 valery chaliy, mr. valery good day good health to you and glad to have you we are on the air i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes let's start with the last attacks of the night and morning in ukraine, and in particular in the capital, the russian occupiers fired up to 40 kha-101 kha55 missiles and 35 shahed kamikaze drones over ukraine at night, and most of them were shot down by our anti-aircraft forces
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. in the morning, the explosions occurred due to the work of anti-aircraft of defense and the fall of debris was recorded in obolon's desnyansky and podilskyi districts of kyiv. this was reported by vitaliy klychko and the kmda in podilskyi district , as a result of falling debris, the roof of a two-story building caught fire. unfortunately, one person was hospitalized with injuries . it can be perceived as coercion, military coercion to peace plans and peace agreements, the projects of which are traveled around the world by the chinese envoy and the representative of brazil and with a peace plan, five more leaders of african countries are going to kyiv and moscow
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. is this related to the fact that russia is pushing ukraine militarily towards some trojan peace? already the sixteenth attack and the specificity of the morning is that it happened quite quickly , which means that now they are looking at the missiles, it is possible iskanders iskanders who were successfully shot down by air defense, but you ask what the goal is i think the main goal is really forcing peace well let's call it that, the main goals are the mood of the people in ukraine and, in particular , the intention to show, as it seems to me, that they have carriers that can penetrate air defenses and can carry nuclear charges, that is, not to use, just to demonstrate
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that they have room to increase their capabilities, but failed during these attacks because everything was shot down, well, of course, people's moods are different, and in this they are achieving something, although at the same time , uh, i think they are closer to the mood of the people of kyiv to the front and common such are our actions with an adequate perception of how to beat the enemy how is it necessary to keep the whole country in a maximally mobilized state in order to give this result to the outside , yes, this is such a signal that even success in the deoccupation of the territories in the east and south of the country will absolutely not stop those who have such means that they can use and well, they are demonstrating it. well, in principle, nothing new on the one hand. come on, only what seems to be happening at a time when they have to prepare for defense very seriously, and they seem to be trying
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to demonstrate their ability to the maximum. i think that this is really in the context uh, trying to achieve a freezing of the war on their terms, that is, it is difficult to explain in another way. well, of course, there are some elements, one could say that there are goals of a military nature, but every time if you beat your head against the wall there and near kyiv and in kyiv, if you do not achieve anything, then it is difficult to explain exactly the military purpose. it seems to me that this is purely psychological, such a component, well, a terrorist component, and its main consumer is an external consumer, after all, who, from the point of view, should put pressure on ukraine. well , someone should put pressure on ukraine so that ukraine capitulated, by the way, it was not for nothing that i mentioned the chinese representative, because
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last week in the wall street journal they wrote about the fact that the special representative of china, who came to kyiv, then traveled to european capitals, then flew to russia, that he, as it were , called on the european union to recognize the russian territories of ukraine should referring to the territories occupied by the russian federation, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine dmytro kuleba said that he spoke with his european colleagues and that the i didn't talk about that, let's hear what kuleba said. i see a publication in a sharp newspaper about the fact that a chinese special representative who had already visited kyiv went on to the european capital and there a-a-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-e-e-e-e-e-e called for a cease-fire and the recognition by russia of those
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the territories that it already de facto controls as a result of the illegal and also immediately contacted his colleagues in those capitals that he visited and none of them confirms that it was held, that it was voiced or that negotiations were even held that to admit for russia and the territories on which russia is now in ukraine , that's why i don't need to, i urge you to keep a cool mind , common sense, you don't need to react emotionally to every publication , we control the process. valeriy, can you tell me, do you have the feeling that all the centers that are currently proposing some kind of peace plans are so-called peace plans that relate to the recognition
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of territorial realities, as they say, well, such a concept was introduced by the russian federation. can we? let us say that, for example, representatives of brazil, representatives of china, representatives of african countries, five countries, and the pope, what are they, in principle, one way or another, all these peace plans are based on demands, or at least on some uh, prerequisites put forward by the russian federation for that to conclude a so-called peace agreement with ukraine yes , i agree with all these so-called mediators listed by you, which i do not want to be, they make one basic mistake, they immediately take
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the position of russia and then, well, the basic narrative is er, i didn’t want to repeat it at all, territorial realities. well, it’s already cynical to call the seizure of territory the murder of people, that is, russia is just covering up with words , this is covering up the truth, and therefore sweep away all these so-called mediators with a broom from this very position. this does not mean that we do not it is necessary to look for mutual understanding and truth with these countries, but how can i repeat, drive them away with a broom if they want, as one of the african leaders said, he will bring peace to ukraine. kremlin, what is unclear, let’s meet, yes, but please, before you go, declare that there will be no foot and no war crimes in the south african republic. if you cannot declare this , i have great doubts whether it will be accepted in kyiv at all, then it is necessary if there is no declaration
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well, it is true that there will be other presidents . that is, it is a complicated story. diplomacy must work, but you and i must clearly speak the truth, that is , if the minister is talking about a colleague about an article and it is not necessary to act like that according to the article, i would agree, but if they say that nothing is being done behind ukraine's back, i don't agree with what is being done and everyone has their own interest, now that they have seen what is coming to a climax, they want to catch this fish in muddy waters, i.e. absolutely well, maybe they were wrongly asked who crimea is, that is, it would be like that, but at least if agree to the fact that russia started the aggression and what the chinese don't want to officially declare , there was just a statement from their ambassador in brussels . that is, he is asked directly by the journalist. so who started the aggression, he says, historians will judge . well, what to talk about, which mediation
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that is, we need to restrain these countries from going further , that is, and i am not sure that all these meetings determine their role of patting on the shoulders to how good that you bring us peace this is a wrong position, we have to achieve balance from them at least at least balance and it seems to me that sometimes we close our eyes, why. because they, for example , one of them can exchange 10 of our prisoners , how was it there? let's fully reveal the mediator's name. i want to say a basic thing as a mediator in the end of the war. well, i generally do not imagine myself in this role so far, but if
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it will be like that, i will write about the compensation of the ukrainians. losses from russian aggression and the exchange of prisoners will definitely be about the need to guarantee ukraine's safety, an umbrella, safety, such mediators can only be the united states of america and no one else, and russia - they understand this perfectly and are looking for ways to get out to the united states of america. well, of course the position of china is important, the position of partners in the usa in europe and our partners is important, but still a key country that can be an intermediary if one is needed, it is the usa and not the african union, er, just a few days ago, mr. valery, the deputy minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, mykhailo shashinin said that the prerequisites or conditions for ending the war on the part of russia are ukraine's refusal to join the eu
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and nato's recognition, again , of the territorial realities we mentioned and granting the russian language the status of a state language, that is, in fact, they they are talking about the fact that there will be no peace with ukraine, because after what happened during the last 15 months and in general nine years of war , it would be a crime to even discuss it at some state level or at the level of the ministry of foreign affairs me because, well, in fact, this is an ultimatum of the russian federation, not to which ukraine should give an answer, what answer can there be to this entire ultimatum not only from the side of ukraine, because it is clear that we are a non-nuclear state fighting a nuclear state and now there are two of these nuclear states near us it turns out that lukashenko transferred or putin transferred tactical nuclear weapons to belarus, what should ukraine
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's answer to this be, there are two ways, the first of which should be the first - this is the real answer to the question of self-defense, that is, the biggest sanction is, of course, success on at the front with the help of partners, and i believe that without the use and, therefore, the rapid development of deterrents, nothing significant will happen , the deterrents can be of different types, for example , from a medium-range missile, this is a missile up to 5,500 km, and ukraine has the right to produce them, well at least about missiles about 1,000 km about the fact that we can make them quickly, it was possible to join forces with other countries in this regard, but this is a matter of production during wartime , it is not years, it must be done in a year, the new year has already passed in two years, do it differently
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otherwise, we will, er, look very frivolous under these blows at the negotiations when diplomats are working, so a strong response on this track is force plus, of course, sanctions. meetings and fill in, that is, well, everything that needs to be done to be written down, but it is not always done so quickly, but there is another track here, i would like to say, maybe it is not so much for me. the position of the russian ministry of foreign affairs should receive an answer, in my opinion, in which of the specific statements of our diplomats or in these notes what
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would i pay attention to first, and by the way, this is an interesting point as this former ambassador of japan who the truth is, harakiri didn't do it when he adjusted like that, knowing everything perfectly well, these are the most cynical, the most insidious fake monsters, they understand it all and specifically declares all this to show the kremlin that he is a er, a racist even worse than those who, er, mean, started this aggression because of that. but what am i doing here without surnames ? in essence, the first thing is to use the declaration on the state sovereignty of ukraine. in order to refuse and give up e status, it is a bloc or a desire to join nato, so i want to tell you that as soon as you hear such a same thesis from ours politicians or former diplomats, and they dispersed it before the war at organized meetings, it was broadcast
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on tv channels, this lie and this treachery is a blow to the back of ukraine , so why am i saying this because the declaration first talks about soviet ukraine, i will remind you that at the same time there was a declaration on the sovereignty of the russian federation and it was not written there, for example, the right of all the peoples of russia to secede for sovereignty, there were declarations on the sovereignty of the sakhaikutiya republic of tatarstan. that is, when the entire soviet union and in ukraine have been for a long time and this the declaration of non-alignment was adopted in order not to be in a bloc with russia and moscow, then there was talk about state independence, then there was the constitution of ukraine, which laid out all this clearly and absolutely precisely. i worked in the pension commission for the first time when these changes were being assembled. i can tell you for sure that there were proposals
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that's the kind there, paragraph 20, section 20 of reception-neutrality, all this was thrown into the dustbin of history, everything. and they, along with some of ours, including those who are sitting , still teach at some universities , head our state institutions, they still for a while they sit there and hide and then, as soon as something happens, they calmly come out with these pro-russian meetings, that is why russia should be reminded about the declaration, its declaration and about the declaration of other republics that, unfortunately, russia hit them and did not give them independence in the 90s, now the second point is related i have already said that russia should carry out decolonization , give the right to the peoples of the caucasus, the state
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of tatarstan, the tuva, to freedom of expression. volunteers for the sovereignty of ukraine and then they will still be. i think that they will defend the independence of the sakha republic, that is, russia is a prison of peoples, a police state , an authoritarian, she will not do this, they must constantly show here what they are doing in this regard and further well, then i think that this sarcasm, of course, on their part, to refuse to join the soviet union, well, to refuse then, often in the vdcb there, and i offered them something right away . well, it’s like that at a discount, there’s also a military bloc, eh , well, listen to this, well, we know the ultimatum. they’re not just cynical, they’re already sick they are already people live in a parallel reality that they want to impose on us and the whole world, that is, i used to think that it was difficult to create a parallel reality for an otaku, but i myself witnessed how it
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was created . it is possible to create statements like these, and it is simply deserved and it is official. by the way, the official position is the only thing . is there already de-nazification or demilitarization? yes, everything is already over, that is , some things are already declared by valery. the main task of the so-called ieds is the protection of russian territory, that is, they started with the disinfection of the demilitarization of ukraine, and now piskov says that it is necessary to defend itself from ukraine, but one way or another they have nuclear weapons, and on may 25, two ministers are fucked with the infamous minister of defense of belarus, who by the way, on the eve of the great invasion, various people were convinced that they would not give the russians the opportunity
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to enter ukraine from the territory of belarus, and the minister of shiga, whom you appointed for the same reason fuck ultimatums. on february 25-26, 2022, they signed an agreement that establishes the actual transfer of tactical nuclear weapons from the territory of russia to the territory of the republic of belarus. lukashenko says that now putin will give nuclear weapons to everyone who joins the so-called union state of russia and belarus. we will hear from the self-proclaimed of the president of belarus, what does he say? well, i don’t think that kosima is such a person. that’s why she’s worried about the flood. well, if suddenly , nobody has it in order for kazakhstan and other countries to have such
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a vital relationship as we have in russia. federations and it's very simple. union in belarus, russia should join. and everything will be nuclear weapons on everyone. well, this is my opinion, it 's not for me, russians, but i think that it's possible . strategically, we must understand that we have a unique chance for the public. by the way, tokay answered that he is not going to join this union and says that there are other associations , nuclear weapons are not needed in kazakhstan, we will hear more from him one of these days, the president of the republic of belarus, lukashenko, offered kazakhstan to join the union state. well, i i appreciate your joke. i think that there is no need for it, according to the sound, there are other integration associations , primarily the european economic union . as for nuclear
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weapons, they are not necessary due to their properties. within the framework of these international documents, it would be easier to say that china is behind us, and on top of that , put this great explanation that we have just made heard that mr. valery is radically changing the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons from the territory of russia to the territory of the republic of belarus, if for ukraine nothing changes because the storage of tactical nuclear charges are quite close to our borders and on the territory of russia, it is changing obviously for belarus and for lukashenka because he for a very long time he beat out this whole story so that he would still be given personal protection and for some reason he believes that this placement there , relocation, it will be for him the protection of his
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dictatorship that he will be able to continue to stay well, at least under the control of moscow but everything is equal in such positions from the point of view of international security and the system of non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, well , nuclear weapons, this seriously changes the situation , the president of kazakhstan he just said, he actually smeared lukashenka with mud and said that ukraine-kazakhstan will not to violate the non-proliferation treaty i give with weapons and you violated russia's potala, this is a clear signal , that is, because kazakhstan and belarus had the same position on accession, as did ukraine. by the way, which joined as a non-nuclear state but we simply had much more carriers and nuclear warheads themselves, well, the third nuclear potential in the world, but there is another side of the coin, and the placement
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of nuclear charges on your territory makes your country safer in general, well, this is a big question because this storage tactically, nuclear weapons to which there is no access to lukashenko, it is a target in principle, therefore there are many aspects that need to be analyzed. how will the situation change, but i will say one thing , there have been no nuclear weapons tests for a very long time , and no one knows how these charges will behave that is, in fact, that is why, in any case, before i try to demonstrate something to someone, there will be some kind of nuclear test . for now, i can say that, apart from statements and such preparatory movements , the situation itself has changed, i would not say, although the demonstration of the capabilities of nuclear weapons carriers is complete and where
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it can be directed at the presence of charges , this is all about raising the degree of escalation , nothing good can happen, that's why ukraine needs to think not only about the current moments, although they are still the most critical the most important thing is the front and the de-occupation of the territory, and we should think about how we defend our position when there will be, uh, other arguments are already being used, missiles, nuclear weapons, uh, different carriers, planes, ships, do we have anything to say here and where to balance well, in principle , weapons of this kind it does not apply and should not be applied. it has a deterrent factor and here is another point, what is a tactical nuclear weapon? well, everyone probably remembers our panic. last year, i think that
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ballistic missiles will fly into ukraine. no one will use ballistic missiles. i mean, there will be no strategic or political ones, but those scandirs, which we will now see according to the examination . they want to demonstrate to us that even to kyiv from the volume. in other words, this is such a clear signal and we need to look for answers , and one more moment i will say a paradoxical thing, maybe someone will say this with criticism, but uh, well, why hasn't russia used tactical nuclear weapons yet because if it uses it somewhere, it will hit russia very hard, but it will achieve minimal military success, because tactical nuclear weapons in soviet times - this
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was an absolutely legitimate element of conducting an army operation in soviet times, where a charge is first used then they go, uh, equipped accordingly with protection and the same equipment, they go and enter the zone after a couple of hours. that is, it was considered that this is a weapon of destruction , not destruction, as we call it, that is, that is why it seems to me that this is a soviet accumulation the union, which has much more nuclear weapons than the usa, but of such a tactical nature, the big countries still have to give an answer , but i don’t know why the usa is so calmly watching all the tricks of the russians about withdrawing from the basic treaties and the treaty on sno3 reduces offensive weapons and even the treaty about conventional armed forces in europe, the united states should
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do one thing, putin's words are provocative , that we will get out of the reduction, this is my son , say god be with you, the terrorists are going, and we will be now, minute three, what will you do? will you do? russia will collapse in 3 years completely. there is no russia like the soviet union. the united states does not do this. there is biden's reaction, but it is quite so restrained because well, if he was already asked about that at the briefing, what he thinks about russia's transfer of tactical nuclear weapons to belarus, he said very briefly, my reaction is extremely negative, but according to this answer, you are right that there are no actions , because it is clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons will obviously open pandora's box for other countries that can will understand that it can be done because now the world lives in the conditions of agreements and agreements, as well as

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