[000:00:00;00] does it contribute to the stressful situation of work at work, you know, it definitely does not contribute even in peacetime, when the context is relatively stable and business can at least predict something, somehow plan, and wartime is very like me, i agree with my colleague, it is an unhealthy story because on any action is countered, and here there are several options, either to go into the shadow, well, or to really close down and somehow shrink and shrink, so the situation is definitely not about a positive story, it is not strategic , because it will probably be like this at first. well , to collect a little money, but it does not motivate entrepreneurs and you know, among entrepreneurs we often had a phrase before this that the state would be fine if at least it didn't put sticks in the wheels and already we are somehow okay there, yes, about help, that's what we said at the beginning well, let's go, you can not help, just don't interfere with checks and fines, but business is not just that, it is enough

of different war stories, it is enough that there are a lot of buyers from abroad and it always depends on who pays, and here you still have hello, you have received a fine. it is a sad story, as far as i am concerned, we talked about this topic yesterday and with people's deputy solomiya bobrovsky and actually she said yesterday that this whole situation, this return to war taxes, can lead to the collapse of the economy and, in general, to the destruction of small and medium-sized businesses, and as we have already said , it will not be possible to completely destroy business, in principle, the economy, fortunately. well, it is possible and very strongly undercut and we understand that then the consequences will begin in the form of the fact that it will be more difficult in the budget and, accordingly , it will be more difficult to maintain the same army and, accordingly , to win among entrepreneurs in your environment, are there already

tendencies to curtail things if there really is going to be some tougher taxation, more complicated conditions , you know specifically. in my case, it is so that it should be curtailed right away. i haven’t heard yet, but people really expect and will look at the situation. entrepreneurs are the people of the strait. ingenuity. unfortunately , they will try to bypass this whole story and or survive with it, and so far the system is not provided for and they expect more, and you are right. then, after all, less funds for the budget and for the army. so far, it still looks like a scenario on the communication plan, sobol, the head of the association of owners of small and medium-sized businesses , mr. ruslane, return, more precisely, the cancellation of the moratorium on tax audits, what do you think this could threaten the business and maybe it will work clearly and according to european standards , so to speak, because we understand that taxes have to be paid anyway and the budget is filled precisely from

your and our taxes ah well. watch the movie , of course, everything will be in euros, she already has everything already in european, therefore, the tax office will also work according to the european why do you why should there be an exception of the type, of course, everything that we have according to the european inspection, also during the war, it must be added that the inspection during the war is among the current powers of the inspection bodies well, of course, everything will be in the european way how else can it be in ukraine? i mean, that's why. well, you have to wait, yes, that is, a colleague said, you asked about the mood , so look, for me, the first trigger is when entrepreneurs no longer talk about development. this is the first swallow that i hear, because in principle, even during the war, there are plenty of possibilities, but this is without alcohol . well, it’s not like an unclear situation. what will happen to the inspections, what will happen to

the tax code? what will happen to the tax code? what is the plus of the war? which definitely affects one way or another. and that’s what entrepreneurs don’t talk about about opportunities. and entrepreneurs constantly talk about opportunities, these are the people who constantly find opportunities in any conditions , in a pandemic, in a blackout , in a war. well, that is, the company’s work stops, bank accounts are blocked well, the company’s work just freezes and let’s figure it out and what was paid, what was not paid and how and in general , if you search, you can always find us well, look in any country if you search, we can find it , but the question is how we are reacting to what we found . well, look, i was, er, so it turned out that i was, er , a witness to the inspection of the enterprise in the czech republic , and the inspecting body came, the fire

department of our company came to inspect the enterprise production and found some inconsistencies there, and look at the inconsistencies, they wrote down, updated them at the bottom of the act, wrote the phone number of the subcontractor who can fix it, gave two sundays to correct these deficiencies and said we will come in two sundays, you will not correct the fine, but here is your opportunity to please correct it and here it is the contractor is not looking for you, this is a statesman's position, this is what i have , this is this, this is what i see, the dialogue of the executive power is checking whether the body and the representative of the real sector of the enterprise's economy we still have a host if vasilka, i will immediately fine you. do you have a feeling that some part of our small and medium-sized entrepreneurs will close down? look, i don't know what will happen. i know what is there and i see what is there . they see that it is possible and our entrepreneurs there are competitive under those

conditions, with those lending opportunities , and with that attitude of the inspecting law enforcement agencies to the tax-generating enterprises and entrepreneurs. i think that we will have a question whether these entrepreneurs will return after our victory, i have no doubts about that. by the way, the question is whether they will return home, because for any country, a person who generates additional value with goods and services is the main capital, a person who creates jobs is the main capital. and i would like to come from the other side do you know of cases when businessmen opened a new business already after a full-scale invasion there. maybe i am not talking about the front line, but about other unoccupied and already de-occupied

territories of ukraine, and this and this pleases such caseys it is impossible to say that everything is bad in general, and i will tell you more : niches are vacated , markets are vacated, and well , who but an internal entrepreneur takes them ? yes, the market works. it is absolutely normal. here is an example for you. before the war, the guys were just gathering , well, you can’t say that right during the war, they opened from scratch, they were preparing for this, they were going, and during the war, they created a company to introduce of pesticides well, these are from chemistry, this is the agricultural sector with drones, agronomists look during the war, when the operators are even gold, everyone is at war, drones are all taken away, and they cultivate the fields, because it is an airplane, well, the sky is closed, helicopters do not work, airplanes do not fly, the sky is closed

by drones, please allow and contribute fertilizers are added to the culture , and fertilizers are cultivated , and we are waiting for a good harvest, it also helps and it grows dynamically. i literally brought them today and spoke to them, well done guys, they are growing, developing, scaling up. well, everything else - everything else is a natural redistribution. they are engaged in occupying places on the market and operators, those entrepreneurs who remained and continue to take over the domestic market and go outside, this is also i am very personally pleased as the head of the association of owners of young medium-sized businesses, so despite everything we are afraid of the outside , there is movement, and movement is always good. andrii, i ask you to tell me more, but it is

quite concise, literally 2-3 minutes, but how business people can minimize losses now during the war. and if we now have the threat of returning to war taxes and to war conditions, that is, how can we make it so that we lose at least less? well, you know, i think we need to focus here in order to lose less because this is such a somewhat losing strategy in order to still earn more, a business, in principle, a priori , cannot stand still. you either grow or fall , it's just that the conditions are becoming more and more difficult , you need to grow faster, as it were it didn't sound despite the unfavorable conditions despite these interesting innovations for business that is why here the question is how to expand the business simply by even faster steps you have three options one two three yes the first option for sure you need to think about what other problem of people you can solve with your product or an improved product i.e. give some deeper added value well, for example, we produced products there now we can take it to your home and also install and connect you

, the service cycle increases accordingly, you can increase the payment second story find a new audience. who else can you sell what you sell? who else can we sell it to in ukraine? well, you sell backpacks for school to someone there. let's think about what is possible. it can also be a gift. and why , then, the new target audience is those who goes to someone's birthday party or to some event and probably the third vector is and what else can you sell to those people to whom you already sell something, because it is always a cheaper and easier way to work with existing customers than to attract new ones, especially when the country's economy well, let's say it's not really at its peak and people are trying to save money and it will be more expensive for you to attract a new client, that's why i would recommend focusing on existing clients, first of all, giving them more , looking for new ones and selling something new. of business there ruslan sobol

, head of the association of owners of small and medium-sized businesses, talked about how businesses can survive in times of war and how the return of the probable return to wartime conditions will affect wartime taxes on small and medium-sized businesses view a small sturgent, the master of zemmeriupol makes a souvenir from destroyed russian equipment from us. it is possible to move from the city of mary and lighten his equipment. well, he moved to lviv, he helps volunteers to close meetings, but the key story is his separate series of souvenir products. let's see together the last model that we got the most expensive and the coolest hand-held fighter serhiy naumenko cuts off a piece of aluminum with a destroyed russian bird from this material he

will make another souvenir of his own work the guy founded it back in 2018. i was still a student, only the beginning of the course. that’s how i started playing with wood and resin. that’s more than learning. the product was so unique and something new, and people really signed up , not even just to buy. at least to look at it, serhiy’s business developed successfully before the war began, the master came from mariupol , the invasion, he packed his things in a backpack and left with his family for the dnipro; all the work equipment and tools remained at home; in principle, they left and then remained in the dnipro wait, what will happen next, but little by little i already started buying equipment, and when we left, i basically had two such small boxes there that i already managed not to buy in lviv . serhii found and rented a room for the future workshop, there was a room here

, i called the owner and everything was agreed, i was just trying to earn as much as possible in order to spend money again, well, in the workshop , times made of wood and epoxy resin , journalist petro shuklininov once wrote to sergey. he ordered a batch of keychains for charity auction inside each product to pour a fragment of a trophy russian anti-aircraft missile complex wasp that he asked for and he even paid twice as much as i asked for money because they liked everything very much and they immediately collected a full 1500 of those little squirrels for pickups and each the key fob creates 15,000 second stores, 85% of the net profit goes to cars, and they collect about a million hryvnias a month and buy five cars each, since then serhii has been engaged in souvenirs with fragments

of elite technology only for peter shuklinov the guy made up to a thousand keychains, volunteers and the military send the wreckage of fighter jets, helicopters, rockets and casings to the people of mariupol free of charge, wood and epoxy resin from these trophies turn out keychains, stands, figurines and lamps that people order and then have from this to help ukraine, that is, everything that i do everything then somehow it goes . there are still raffles, auctions, sales , or gifts to those who have made a lot of orders for ukraine. buyers in the future, the master plans to create a commemorative collection of souvenirs dedicated to the liberation of ukrainian mariupol kateryna oliynyk volodymyr studenyi tv channel espresso thank you colleagues for this extremely interesting story we are moving on we are now joining the marathon lyudmila philipovich doctor of philosophical sciences vice president of the ukrainian association of religious experts

to ukraine, mrs. lyudmila, we welcome you. good day . well, we would like to ask you about the dynamics of the transition of parishes and communities from the ukrainian orthodox church to the moscow patriarchate. to the orthodox church of ukraine in general. how do you feel how actively are communities transitioning, and in general , are certain representatives of the uoc mp not putting up some resistance , in particular, it is about the level of bishops and archbishops ? thank you. passes we especially feel this in connection with the aggravation of the situation at the front and

the bloodier . make the appropriate decisions. i think that no one has any doubts that ukraine will win. well, if ukraine wins the war, the question arises: who will you be with, where will you be, and what will you be like? well, we see just the shots when the community votes for the transition. although they and the winter ones, now you see, people are watching very carefully what is happening right at the front , what is happening, and you know, this church is not made of this , you know, such a special campaign. voluntarily, only when the overwhelming majority

of the community votes for it, that is, in order to pass the 51st vote is clearly not enough . well, i know that the propaganda of the orthodox church of ukraine is also actively working, for example, in bukovyna there is such a father, roman hryshchuk, wherever possible, he is mandatory for everyone tells who these orthodox priests are, what they did, who they contacted, uh, well, it affirms our ukrainian identity, calls on people to be conscious of their perhaps such a traditional i can't even say what it is a choice if you were baptized in this church yes, there at a young age in the only church that was on the territory of the settlement, it belonged to the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, then you did not make a choice. at that time, this church in the form in which it exists even now is no longer whole

, already fragmented, and from which three parishes in the crimea were taken away by muscovites, e-e, it means the rovenko diocese in donetsk region, the berdyan eparchy e-e in the south of ukraine well, i think that the appetites of the russians will not be satisfied by this, they will spend so much to steal what does not belong to them, but what they consider their own. and this once again confirms the idea that if the ukrainian orthodox church considered herself independent and independent , then she would at least vote for er, you know, disagree with er lebed, so to speak, under arrest, we understand that perhaps not all of his environment is under investigation, so to speak, but we understand that there is a church from rome and

the church is not broken, we understand that everyone knows about lebed, but about these or other so-called gray domestic cardinals. far from everyone guesses, except for the employees of the relevant special services, what do you think the situation looks like, how active are they about muscovy or muscovite figures around church circles, how actively are they now trying to create confusion well, it is possible not to muddy the water, but to preserve what is left, and it is clear that no one will give up without a fight, they confirm this also by the fact that they have committed various manifestations near the kiev-pechersk lavra we we remember these performances that were held there by the activists of this church. well, it is clear that the swan has not been raised and the right to communicate with their fellow believers, to consult, to communicate, because

that arrest is him this is quite conditional, that is, the connection with, as they say, it is still preserved, even with all the possible communications and contacts that existed in previous years, i think that the sbu has not fully recovered from russian influence and from possibly fsb agents , and our police probably too there keeps people who are loyal to russia and even in in such a terrible situation of war, open war and aggression, when they kill ukrainians and when they say that ukraine does not exist, that it is necessary to finish off these mutineers, they consider zucker and the fascists, even in such terrible conditions, people still remain loyal to russia, you know, i am repeating these narratives that have been around for a long time they put it into our heads that russians

are our brothers, that we are of the same slavic blood, that we received a single baptismal cross, the truth is unknown to muscovites even in 988, because moscow was founded 150 or even 200 years after time of baptism, but nevertheless, you know, it is a threat to the common heritage and the awareness of ourselves as the only true heirs, the fact that we received the patriarchate of koosinopil makes them very aggressive with such missionary fantasies that only they today are called to preserve the purity of orthodoxy, and you see how orthodoxy is polarized in general that is, we can clearly say that today two camps have been created, one camp that supports the moscow patriarchate and stands on the positions of both the imperialists and that it is necessary to strangle ukraine both spiritually and financially and materially and

they brag and brag and destroy what they see, and on the other hand, this is what they say about the european context, this is the ecumenical patriarch, around which the orthodox churches that are in europe were also born and who see the danger of these imperial encroachments . and what do you think about the ecumenical patriarch intervene in the situation, or is it possible, not directly , through certain diplomatic channels, and in principle, with such an intervention from constantinople itself, could something change for the better in that situation, with some civilized solutions and civilized more if the actual formation of the ukrainian orthodox church i think that the ecumenical patriarch has already intervened by not giving a tomos to the orthodox church of ukraine in the 19th year and restoring his mother's rights to the church as the kyiv metropolitan well, this is not an initiative today

on the initiative of the moscow patriarchate itself, any ties with the patriarch of selensk in the moscow church were interrupted, that is, they took offense and puffed their cheeks after holding the council of crete in the 16th year, which, by the way, was actively prepared for about 50 years and at the last minute refused to take part because they felt that there would be very serious opposition to their encroachment and their approaches, but now i am not with this relation to the ecumenical patriarchs, but i am a very peace-loving person and open and repeatedly through other patriarchs there through jerusalem of alexandria and others, everyone hinted at the fact that he i don't mind reestablishing all ties because, you know, one situation is geopolitical showdowns , and a completely different situation is universal orthodoxy, because there are slightly different laws in force, and we

could hope for the support of the pope rimsky, and you know that he has repeatedly stated his desire to meet with patriarch kirill. well, if he were there in conversations, he would have convinced the patriarch. you must have asked to somehow influence the secular leader of the state where this church is located, i mean president putin, and convince him to stop war, but the issue that the pope is the preacher of does not suit ukraine at all , since it is based on the fact that it is necessary to stop, that is, to end the war on the specific situation on the current borders where we are, so simply and for no reason, we cannot even claim to

restore these territories in order to extort from russia the money that went . and for many consecutive years are among the european and american elites, that is, in fact, they work on the russian scenario and play into the hands of moscow, i think that ukraine should without a doubt defend its option of ending the war only through victory and capitulation a country that illegally crossed the borders and conducts aggressive actions on our territory, look, i would like to ask you what solution, for example, from the history of the ukrainian orthodox church in moscow or the russian patriarchate there, as far as we understand , it would be appropriate to hold a council and decide on the guidelines for the development of the uoc mp and accordingly

hold corresponding parallel hearings in the orthodox church of ukraine, we have to understand so what to do with what is called in the people the uoc mp, yes, and in addition to legislative moments, there are also moments of the so-called church jurisprudence, what to do with it, whatever path you consider the shortest and the most effective. i do not know whether today the moscow patriarchate is ready to conduct any negotiations with any religious leaders . they have nothing to share with the pope , and they have no special interests in the territory of the so-called canonical territory of the roman catholic church

. they have no claims. well, with the orthodox. in order to resolve the issue of ukrainian orthodoxy in a peaceful way, they had such an opportunity. this is exactly what i mentioned in the 16th year council. the agenda included the question of the procedure for granting autocephaly, and at that time it was also expected to find out who could grant it in what way. when, you see, it did not happen. well, now, after the ukrainian orthodox christians received the tomos, we are not interested in this question at all, and the status of the ukrainian orthodox church. by the way, on its own initiative, it actually entered twice into the water about which to things the greeks did not recommend joining. i mean, it became non -canonical and not recognized by anyone. that is, it is like the kyiv patriarchate, which took the path of self-proclamation in the early 90s and waited for 30 years to be recognized by the ecumenical patriarch. but

the zelensky patriarch does not have such reasons to do the same to the ukrainian orthodox church, since he already granted this decree autonomy for autocephaly and said that there can be only one local orthodox church on the territory of ukraine, and the second church should not be there, and he even prescribed in to those who are actually not the same metropolitan onufriy to the heads of the church, he is simply staying on its territory well, it is not written there illegally, he is simply staying on the territory of another metropolitan ms. lyudmila and one more question, but i am really asking for just a minute to answer the uoc mp has resumed worship in the kyiv-pechersk lavry, we remember that in march there was a bit of a commotion there, and they were evicted there, then they said that they were not having fun, and now suddenly we have a recovery. do you think it is possible to roll back this kind of complete

resettlement, restoration of the previous activities of the kiev -pechersk lavra. i think that returning to what was impossible, but you know, both sides now simply say that they are conducting reconnaissance by combat and probing for possible territories that could be divided or share e-e see what kind of influence you can use in order to continue your existence there , you see what a huge territory, well, we need to restore spiritual life on the territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra. i know the mood and interest of the current director of the new director of the kyiv-pechers lavra is absolutely a pro-ukrainian person and she will not allow the return of any russian secular forces to the territory of the kyiv-pechers lavra, that is, he is for the ukrainian world and will defend the interests of ukrainian orthodoxy and not orthodoxy in ukraine, so that's it

let's stop on this positive note. lyudmila fi already a doctor of philosophy and vice-president of the ukrainian association of religious studies was in touch with us. and we will conclude. banned the flag of the legion of freedom russia after the recent events of the junior new during today's informational analytical evening, so our colleagues are picking up the informational baton, now we are watching together the verdict program with serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko good day to everyone and good health today, may 30 461 the day of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers 17 attack of the russian