[000:00:00;00] lyudmila filipovych, doctor of philosophy and vice-president of the ukrainian association of religious studies was in touch with us. and we will finish. i will only tell you about the fact that in russia there is a struggle with flags, because the flag of the legion of freedom russia was banned there after the recent events of the younger more news during today's information session analytical evening, so our colleagues are picking up the information relay, now we are watching together the verdict program with serhiy rudenko glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today, may 30, 461 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers. 17. attack of the russian occupiers on kyiv

. air defense forces shot down over the ukrainian capital on the night of may 30. earlier, more than 20 russian drones were shot down in the holosiivskyi district . died today, from 25 to 32 drones attacked moscow , two houses were damaged, people were evacuated , russian mass media report, meanwhile, the occupiers lost another loss in ukraine, they continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine, as of the morning of may 30, russia has already lost 207,000,440 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 410 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost 3,802 tanks and 7,469 fighting men in ukraine armored

vehicles 3000 445 artillery systems 575 multiple rocket launcher systems 332 air defense equipment 313 aircraft 298 g helicopters 6219 units of motor vehicles 18 ships boats 1056 winged missiles 392 drones 454 units of special equipment so the attack on moscow by drones revenge of budanov the second ukrainian front we will talk about all this for the next hour i want to introduce today's our first guest - he is a colonel of the security service of ukraine people's deputy of ukraine roman kostenko mr. colonel good day good health to you and i'm glad to see you on our air. i wish each other health , let's start with drone attacks, because today , on the 17th of may

, the russians attacked the ukrainian capital and on other cities are hit by drones and rockets at night, 20 russian drones were shot down over kiev, which i already said. unfortunately, one of the fragments flew into a high-rise building, one person died, four more were hospitalized due to the debris, damage to buildings and cars was recorded in various areas of the city, such is the intensity of shelling of peaceful cities, well conditional peace, of course, during the war , but still the ukrainian capital. what do you connect with? that is, the russians are trying to incline us to some kind of peace talks, or are they have already decided to crush the infrastructure according to the principle of the peasants, that is, they are cutting little by little, little by little, but still they are causing more damage to us than in this case we are to them and they are taking advantage of this. i will answer your question

a little later, i would like you to just tell the story that we have today yes , there was a meeting of the verkhovna rada just to give our servicemen a little clarity on the issue that was before it. on the agenda is the return of 30,000 or, let's say , additional payments to the servicemen, this was considered at a meeting of the verkhovna rada, there was a draft law. in the morning, we considered it in the committee, and there was a position that you remember when there was an amendment that the verkhovna rada should return. i apologize by voting 30,000 e . then a working group gathered, which apparently had to work out a bill that would return those 30,000. and it would make such a gradation, and here the bill was worked out, it

was very soon today directly brought to the committee for this, so that it today to vote for the basis and in general. let's say yes, speaking for the bill itself, there are good rules regarding leave, granting leave to military personnel up to 30 days, and there are others, there is the return of payments to cadets, but with regard to the return of exactly 30,000 e.e., the working group did the following they took the current norm, which is now in the government resolution, and simply transferred them to the draft law, in fact, all those decisions and all those payments that they are now , they wanted to approve the law and so that it was already at the level of the law. i believe that this is not it is possible to do. i believe that if there are no funds, it is necessary to come out directly and tell the fighters that there are no funds , but to do such deception and substitution directly at the meeting of the verkhovna rada . i went to the second reading, where we can then correct it, and i say once again that

the government should do it and adopt it in the law . there is no need for the following provision that confuses me in this draft law. we know that we have a problem, it is our injuries that withdrawn from the state, who are now at the disposal of, for example, he fought in the military. he was wounded. he will receive the salary he received for two months, then he goes to the disposal and begins to receive 800 uah. so, the working group worked out that now this serviceman will receive 6,800 and they wanted to approve this at the level of law . well, i would just like to ask all those who, uh , were preparing for a decision, and as a serviceman who was wounded, how can he continue to serve, whose family, who has children, who performed his tasks and was wounded for his homeland, he should receive uah 6,800 and continue his treatment . i also

think this is wrong , that's why we didn't let this bill be voted on as a whole. according to the position they had before that, but also injuries, yes, injuries , because look at how we demotivate our soldiers, a person who will now be you and i will now fight for the country, i will be wounded somewhere, and then i will actually be dropped somewhere and they will tell you 6,800. while here, get treated. and we may think about you someday, that's why i think it's wrong and the bill was sent to the second reading, it was sent as a whole, it was not voted on, i think that we will finalize it before the second reading, now there may be many questions there, the vote has been blocked someone's or did not block it again, i say the first should be 30,000 in this bill is a fraud it's wrong i think it 's not possible to file such

because we won't win the war that way. when we have people thrown overboard who in fact risk their lives and become disabled or become disabled as a result of hostilities. that's why i want everyone to know what the situation is if they hear that someone did you block something, did you not block it, it was sent to the second reading, but in order to work out real norms and payments to military personnel, and not simply to be smeared , in this way to show that it is as if we did something , that is why today there was a fruitful discussion, we about they said this, i spoke from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, and my position is that the military wounded should receive the salary they received before, because 30,000 should be divided and a clear gradation should be developed. who should receive where and how much and not leave everything is as it is, because recently we remember that the verkhovna rada returned and now they will say that the verkhovna rada did not give the bill to the second reading, this bill will be amended and i hope that

we will still vote for this justice answering to let's say yes just so that people know and that we are working here in the verkhovna rada, now returning to your question, in particular, regarding the issue of martyrdom strikes , we see that recently it has become systematic and pedestrian rockets that this is such a possibility in russia, we see now and potential and to hit with missiles. despite the various plans of statements there. what are they? they are practically at zero, that they are no longer there. we see that russia still has opportunities, and in particular, the committee in the near future, i will not say when will be get together and we want to call the gur and ask what the situation is in general regarding these missiles and these martyrs, because well, many also ask us, in particular, citizens who have heard many statements that there are practically no missiles in russia, but the intensity is only increasing

at first of these statements. therefore, maybe something has changed. maybe i don't know some countries that have started to help russia or some, we wouldn't have er there, let's say completely unreliable data, so why do the russians do this, of course , to break our er spirit to victory, first and the second understanding that we are the ones who hit kiev, the second thing i understand is that we have strong air defense systems , they are trying to wear out these systems, because i think they know their superiority in the air due to aircraft and maybe in the future they want to use more massive air strikes when our anti-aircraft defense will be depleted with the help of shahids, because what is happening now is that we use shahids, which are relatively cheap there and they get them in iran , and we use, let’s say, very expensive serious systems in order to shoot them down. well, and reduce our offensive potential to hit there, let’s say yes, look for where the warehouses with ammunition are located, where our control points are located, and

strike at them in order to reduce our military potential in general, let's say before our active actions in front of this summer-autumn company yesterday , the chief of the main directorate of intelligence of the ministry of defense ukrainian major general kyrylo budanov recorded a speech after another mass attack by russians on the capital and on ukraine, in which he said that the enemy will not be able to intimidate ukraine and the answer will not be delayed let's watch this short video. good day

, another attempt at terrorist acts by the russian federation has once again been defeated. are at their workplaces and continue to do their work well, all those who tried to intimidate us, dreaming that it would bring some effect, you will regret it very soon, our answer will not be long, wait you will all see everything soon thank you and today we saw how early in the morning moscow was attacked in the moscow region, according to the ministry of attack of the russian federation , eight drones were shot down, although according to various sources it is estimated that from 25 to 32 drones attacked the russian capital at night and did not sleep today in moscow of course and now we will also watch a video where eyewitnesses told about the impact of a drone on a house on leninsky

prospect in moscow, a motorcycle, the smell of kerosene, and then we are on the 4th floor, and here there is something the heavy object was choked and all of this already made us stand up and look at that. then we went out, they released all these services 5 ml and then there will be a stab in the blue grass of the extremities of all the apartments. which was not confirmed by the ukrainian side, they say that but with the assistance of the ukrainian side, as the adviser to the office of the president of ukraine , mykhailo podolyak, said, are these strikes capable of bringing

the russians to their senses? of ukraine and for those who are sitting somewhere on rublevka or there on lena avenue in the big and spacious apartment, well, this is, first of all, a warning - it is a hint that we are gradually recruiting combatants capable of exactly such uh-uh symmetric tasks of strikes and this means that it will only increase and ordinary russians must understand that we are giving or those who are giving it blows in return that they are striking us. we are simply acting to defend ourselves and i see how our defense industrial complex works what is the name of ours private companies, with what zeal the security service of ukraine works. i think that after some time we will reach that level . when we can symmetrically match the number of their strikes, uh, we will say to respond with our own , of course, on missiles, the question will depend on partners, and such things as drones i am sure that i can already calmly produce our

industrial defense, the industrial complex, our private companies that are part of it to one degree or another, so they must understand that war is when both sides are shot and not only in one direction, because before that the russians lived even before the belgorod operation and the others, with the fact that it does not concern them and it only concerns the war on the territory of ukraine, there is a special military operation , now the war is gradually coming to their side, of course i believe that we need to increase the potential and this is the fact that little by little it will lead to their understanding , first of all it is possible for the latvians who understand that they will not be able to stop anything, and the other is for ordinary russians who will not be able to safely to feel and every day to expect that something may arrive in the telegram channels, the correspondence of ksenia sobchak is published and

in the telegram channel, the bloody bar lady goes , she talks to someone and asks about the explosions in the barva, and now we will look at this screen, the explosions in the barva are terribly chattering are you kidding the smoke was standing like a mushroom appeared in the area of ​​rublovsk ee sarcastic i already saw six explosions with a difference of 10 minutes and sobchak replied to her in the telegram channel i am not happy about any drones neither in moscow nor in kyiv and i am terrified of that that there are many people who are happy both here and there and want an endless continuation, well, 1.5 years later, after the start of the great war , sobchak somehow articulated that she was not happy there for some reason, but she became not happy after flying around moscow. is that enough? judging by the fact that the russians have vocational training or their ppu may be the same sham as their entire

country. i mean, will we have enough resources to transfer hostilities from the territory of ukraine to the territory of russia, although the ukrainian side is not particularly confirms i emphasize once again that these were ukrainian drones, because western countries are quite cautious about how ukraine can use weapons on the territory of the russian federation. well, you see that these boxes appeared . it is probably not without the direct owner of these countries to start already to show their position because they understand in principle where all this can lead and want to have some kind of position for themselves later . look, i never supported this so that we understand that just like that

appeared er because it concerns those strikes directly i think that we should do everything to well if we talk about air defense separately a large territory and they can collect all this pp near moscow and near peter , let’s say, and protect the elite. and all other cities where ordinary people live, they will be exposed and no one will be able to protect them, and they can only protect themselves by showing its position directly in relation to to what is happening, that is, they have enough, but i say once again, we are gaining capabilities every day , the ukrainian army is getting stronger, we are getting weapons, technology, we are gaining experience, and every day russia will be hurt more and more by the fact that they started this bloody war, but mr. colonel, were the russians

preparing to attack, but not to defend themselves, judging by the development of events, because their entire military-industrial complex and the entire army doctrine was directed exclusively at the fact that they would attack, well, the same events in belgorod oblast, what are the events there in rostov oblast or krasnodar krai, when we strike at some important infrastructural facilities that concern the russian army, they testify that they did not expect this, is russia capable of responding very quickly to these challenges? well, the same story from the belgorod region, when the rdk entered the territory of the russian federation, or can they turn around very quickly , deploy their troops and react, well, russia learns the same way we learn and we are there actions and they and we have the same and i will say

from where i directly work that we often try out new methods there and they can work there from a week to a month and then the counteraction begins, then we look for new methods, they also ate the sides they go into some methods, we find a countermeasure, and this is a small window, that is what war is about, constant development. this is a small window that you can enter and destroy the maximum number of the enemy until he applies the countermeasure . they have learned this lesson with belgorod. i think now they will take some action in order to strengthen the borders with ukraine, the intelligence previously reported to us that they have not many troops there, which, let's say, they receive at the expense of conscripts and at the expense of which they maintain territorial defense, so russia can react quickly, and i think that they will react to this in including increasing their capabilities in the field of defense by moving troops there, but of course it will also reflect on their internal situation when there are already more people involved in

the war and they will see this war and they will see that here they are in the troops walking next to each other it means that not everything is so good, the same and other border guards are fsbniks. therefore, it is their any preparation, it will affect what we talked about at the beginning of the program on the mood they were in, and we will see how many russians with these moods will be able to live that we are ready to play the long game, we have no other choice, the question is whether we are ready to play the long game, it is not resourceful. i understand that yes , but at the same time to hold the country. and when they just they won't be able to say anything at all, they'll just, well, excuse me, the patient ones, well, regarding that

, can we and how will we play the game ? the time of another attack on kyiv in broad daylight, schoolchildren run to the bomb shelter , the russians are taking away our children's childhood , the russians are taking away our parents' old age , the russians are taking away the lives of our soldiers, those who are at the front, mr. colonel, are you able the ukrainian state must now respond promptly to these challenges. i mean in cities, in schools, in kindergartens, in residential complexes, to build such an infrastructure

that would allow us to hide from these strikes for the longest period and some way to avoid victims and minimize the number of victims because with the beginning of the war in kyiv and in other cities , we rushed and it turned out that what we called shelters turned out to be ordinary basements that could simply become a grave for many people in the event that rockets hit there. well, hello, russians are taking lives our soldiers are taking away their childhood, but i will say that we can't change anything already. in this period, what has already happened, and those children who run to the underground storage are our people , our nation, which is now being hardened, what is the future of future politicians.

military men, future statesmen or cultural figures there, who will see what the neighborhood with the russian federation has led to in general, and i am sure that some of them will continue to grow , choose professions and live, they will live with the fact that russia is the enemy and do everything in his activities and show me what you are not going to allow these generations who are now fighting directly at the front really . there is someone else, let's say , who was brought up by that soviet past. when such an ideology is vague, what part of it there was, and what part of it even used some kind of soviet ideology. therefore, it is very important that yes, we are currently going through such a bloody war. will already be to understand where the vector of ukraine needs to be directed and how much there is one chance . how should we live so that no longer er russia could not resolve these bloody wars regarding

our er opportunities to provide well the government should do everything to provide i think that in the future, politics will be, well, for example, like in israel, i don't remember that they are building houses in which there are capsules in order to go there during an alarm, and it gives you the opportunity to survive there , and even if a rocket hits there, your house now, as far as i remember, the law has been passed that the houses that are being built must be equipped with bomb shelters, and it is such a long flight, of course, we will not do it in a day, during the war, we can only prepare those that are already there, but in the future , any which house i am sure, even those who will build their own private houses and with whom i am talking now say, first of all , this if before there were three floors up one down or without them at all, now it is the opposite three down one up in order to make it safe and that

this will be new to us, probably, and the culture of building a neighborhood to the russian federation, especially the border guard of the regions, how will the population in general be built there, there should be a state program, there should be, er, let's say , architectural standards and some permits when we have the prospects to provide for ourselves in order to save our lives because russia will not go anywhere and its imperial ambitions they will also remain as they have been for centuries , they will also remain therefore we have to do all this of course and but it will come in time today the attack of the minister of the russian federation said that the russian air defense forces responded to these eight drones that were flying to moscow and that these were terrorist acts of the ukrainian authorities or the ukrainian regime, as they say, and at the same time he said that the russian military hit the patriot air defense system in kyiv in the last days well, they have already repeatedly talked about it, that they are attacking these complexes there, there was already an explanation from our

military that, er, petriv is not one car there, or even two cars, it is a whole complex that is deployed in different areas kyiv can stand this whole system, uh, according to your opinion, this is the desire of the russians to say that their weapons are much better than the american ones, and to what extent is it true? that the russians have some kind of ultra-weapon that is difficult to deal with. they constantly flaunt it even before the war . it was very clear, this whole story was unfolding that we have ultrasonic hypersonic missiles of some kind, not judging by the course of the war and especially the last 15 months , does the russian federation have something that really

impresses, well, it is meant to impress the imagination and the fact that it helps them to be at a height among the weapons manufacturers in the world and among well, in particular, with the united states, well, this is a very good question . let's say humiliated the russian federation already finally by the fact that they managed their markets with daggers that, apparently, no one in the world can knock down, and here came petre, that's the first complex, let's say, which struck at once, and there were six missiles, if i'm not mistaken, which, as if, they kept them at all to keep the whole of europe in fear, including the united states, so let's say russia has already revealed all its cards in this war , everything they have, and at the same time the allies have already tested all their weapons and realized that russia does not have what it takes to threaten them and what they could resist, first of all, our partners

are big, we have some problems with communication , now we will try to restore contact with colonel roman kostenko, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel and also in our social networks and youtube for those who are watching us live now please like this video subscribe to our resources well and please join our sponsor club sponsor club youtube channel espresso e-e by this link you can find full information about our youtube channels about how you can join our sponsor club and we will be grateful for any help you know that we work for you and work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week , read our news also on the espresso tv website

please let me know if we have colonel kostenko in contact. unfortunately, we have lost contact with roman kostenko and are waiting for the inclusion of the colonel of the armed forces of ukraine in the reserve petro chernyk. in moscow, dmytro piskov says that there is no information that the drones were directed to rublevka, you know that the entire russian elite lives on rublevka near moscow, there is no such information, he says that he came out with comments about drones. he says that all eight drones which were moving in the direction of moscow were shot down, although the russian media reported that there were 30 to 35 of these drones and that these drones were not flying over civilian infrastructure or