[000:00:00;00] well, they are afraid of him and i think that with large depth strikes in the rear they can smear and cut off our logistics or even strike some warehouses with armed equipment and ammunition for it or other missile weapons and the third point is also important follows from the second point, in this way they suspend the movement of the entire contribution of anti-aircraft missile systems to the front line to cover our potential offensive actions . will be fed up with such a number of anti-aircraft missile complexes, primarily to cover large cities, which are of a lower class of installations, and let's say like s200 or 2k12 cube square and so on, this is a very long line, we will be able to move a small percentage for repurchasing . of course, in a general sense, especially

for missiles because this is of great interest to our entire community, when it will end, it will not end, we must be objective, and here there are two components, the accumulated potential that existed before the beginning, it is not within the limits of seven thousand missiles, it unequivocally used and build, let's say, x22. they definitely won't be able to, at the same time, about 111 such missiles. and this is the heaviest and oldest missile. they still have, but within the range of 40 to 60, the first three m14 caliber and short radius from 110 to 20090 km, and this is ha- 31 and x-59 , unfortunately, they will be able to build. unfortunately, the strategy for a positive solution to this problem lies not in rockets, but in rockets , but in carrier rockets, why here is 94-5, here is 95 , give the ms, the youngest of the 94th year, tu-22m3

the youngest of the 93rd year and to this question they can get out of it, they lower their potential in terms of technological maintenance because they can’t build, it’s simply impossible , and the engines and the airframe itself are constantly constantly lowering their quality, the husky is the first one according to the passport of the 95th, 8 rockets per car , more than four are not accepted, the rocket weighs 2 t 400 and the more and the longer it is in the air, the more difficult it is, the more difficult it is, the point of absolute degradation will be reached, but it will not be as fast as we want. precisely the capital of ukraine, because it is important that they definitely set a course for it, you know, i am watching closely, they are monitoring all these events in the last month, 18 missile attacks. i completely agree with my colleague about what was said, but

i want to say that these attacks are becoming complex , and according to the infragraphics, this it is very clear that there are fewer cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, and they are starting to use drones together with drones, most drones are now four times more drones than they used before, that is why they are now comprehensively, this indicates that there is a small shortage of cruise missiles, let’s say, they already have problems with that, and they manufacture them. yes, but they already have problems, because in order to manufacture one missile, it is necessary to need well , literally, at least a week there, you understand, and they are for a month they are making 12 rockets together, let's say yes, but uh, what else do you want to say that a drone attack on moscow, let's say yes, this is a very

bad omen, you know, once upon a time, in kyivan rus', they went to war and there was a lunar eclipse, the same in russia, we see that slowly, the war is already being transferred to the territory of russia, well, slowly, they are already beginning to feel this war there, if they did not feel it before, now they are feeling it significantly, these problems, these arrivals , these er, these anxieties are also happening in them, and these words of the mayor of er, belgorod about the fact that kiev should be captured so that they don't shoot at belgorod and moscow, that's what worries them all, and eh my opinion is also eh let's put it this way, the opinion of eh prigozhina goes against the politicians who are sitting in moscow

according to the ministry of defense of the russian federation that's why they accuse there is a hidden conflict between them, which is very appropriate for us and very inappropriate for them. and they don't want to show it and admit it . look at them even now on television. they already see that this is a war, and war when they feel when they shoot later. here and these drones we are in moscow and these and these strikes on belgorod and on the oil depots , this testifies to that and uh... who are already rebelling, who are running away from it everything indicates that the war is already moving to our side of russia and they are already feeling this war, we are also feeling the war very strongly and if we remember that today in ukraine they celebrate children's protection day, it will still be important

to say that many children are from this war only if we consider full-scale offensive since february of last year, these numbers are still very impressive, we can look at them as of june 1, according to the office of the prosecutor general, during the full-scale war, 485 children were killed , 90,992 children were injured, in addition, 393 are considered missing persons and these are actually approximate figures, because it is impossible to say the exact number of victims due to the fact that hostilities are taking place in certain territories, there is an occupation of certain territories, it is impossible , there was a very unfortunate incident today in kyiv when people during an air raid alert could not get into shelter and these people died with us is oleksiy danilov secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine on

skype e p oleksiy slava ukraine i welcome you to our broadcast and anyway let's then ask you to comment on this very story which today happened in kyiv, of course, it's a thing that, you know, sometimes it seems to me that such a heavy weapon is so against us, it's human indifference, and i don't want to believe that there are many such people in ukraine, i still want to believe that these are some exceptions, but that's all well, for today's incident with the closed a-a bomb shelter, who do you think should be punished and what kind of punishment should it be? well, first of all, it's not easy, where it's much worse is irresponsibility and wartime, but everyone has to fulfill their

duties during wartime ot keep in mind that it is necessary there will be criminal proceedings based on this fact when we gave shelter to people when it was needed and in the near future we will find out the surname and patronymic of whom they will be . there is a great tragedy in the city of kyiv. i want to emphasize once again that everyone must fulfill their duties to you very carefully. read the instructions very carefully. read the authorizations. read who is responsible for what. and here is such a thing. so when they know that kiev is being attacked almost every day committed on the castle of the bomb shelter, well, this is not even negligence. it is much worse. it is very important that, at least in the media, there is now such information that many leaders have been involved, the content, in particular, the mayor of lviv announced that all bomb shelters will be checked to see how accessible they are to the lions. the mayors of other cities also announced this, the prime minister

of ukraine is also talking about this, so maybe it's just such tragic cases. they often become a catalyst for change, believe me , after another night attack by a in kyiv, you called russia's actions er stupidity and stubbornness a-a well, people are dying in our country from their stupidity and stubbornness , how long do you think they will resort to exactly such attacks on the capital and other cities of ukraine. they well, i can say that i don't have a date. i really wanted it not to start at all, just like every ukrainian, so we need to understand that we need to move towards victory. there should be maximum unity, as it was on february 24, we have recently started certain processes, we monitor it, but here it is necessary urgently it is necessary to understand that only in unity is our strength, that is the guarantee of our victory

, which will definitely be behind us, that is to question the situation, that is, especially during the military when victory has not yet been achieved, this is the right project , practically for our country, that is, i am asking for attention that it is starting again on television to return to the russian language, the deputies are starting to behave defiantly, and there are many other examples that we are currently observing that there is an unacceptable border, do you mean that the russians are treacherous, they both worked and worked in its agents of influence, to the great regret, not all of them, but also the security services of ukraine, for cleaning. these are the challenges that we have today and during the war and that will be after the war. they will be a great test for our country. it is clear that we cannot discuss that what will it look like it has started it hasn't started and these are all the nuances that our enemies should feel, but

it is still pleasant the fact that senator linzigren, who had a visit to kyiv, here his quote was such that the plan for the counteroffensive of ukraine is striking that they showed him what they could show in the coming days, you will see a rather impressive demonstration of the strength of ukrainians, so he said, and well, this assessment is quite positive, how important it is to us. and what does it give us, with all due respect to the senator, i can say that no one showed anything to anyone closed documents. keep in mind that only members of the stake have the right to see them only in the way that is determined by the supreme commander-in-chief of our country, therefore , of course, i can be happy for everyone who thinks that we have a plan. either perfect or flawless, but once again i emphasize that what will happen when this will happen is all decided

behind closed doors. so no one has access to all these things. we need to put an end to this and just wait when our military. at the rate meetings, one or another decision will be made, you and i will see it firsthand, do you remember the operation in the kharkiv region, which took place for many, it was unexpected in other territories of unexpected situations, i am very sorry that now it is so little i think i will overheat the situation with the counter, they constantly tell the process. keep in mind that everything will be on time . the main thing for us is to achieve the maximum result. in those areas of the front where certain events will take place. and your team for the thorough preparation of the sanctions against the islamic republic of iran, which the verkhovna rada approved the other day, this is really

professional, thorough work by you and your team . this is important. in this period, it is also about agents the other day, we heard the statement of the president of croatia regarding our greetings. glory to ukraine, in fact, we are grateful to croatia , the croatian people and the government for their support, because we know that they still show it and the croatian people have passed the difficult trials of 1991-95. what do you think of this of the president, won't it worsen our relations, or isn't this the influence of the kremlin only from the outside thank you well, i would really like it if we didn't get personal now, especially when it comes to the president of a country that really helps us and here which is very important to us the way the people of croatia treat us, and you mean that we follow and monitor the situation that is happening in

all but not only the countries of the european union, we understand where and what the mood is and believe me exactly the people of croatia for us for our country for our independence what concerns the statements of certain officials there are certain cases, but i emphasize once again. i would not stir up this whole issue and do this. what is it supposed to be? let's say it like this , you know, totus, there are different circumstances, there are different situations, so what do we do? we have to fight. to win or to move forward to a complete victory, the return of all our territories in response to compensation , what concerns the frame. i want to say that the time will come when iran will be responsible for this car by the head of the russian federation, or in this shameful war that they launched on the territory of our country i.e. believe me , in the near future there will be a lot of different events in the world, but maybe

a lot will be unexpected. so, once again, i emphasize to be patient, grit your teeth, fight , fight and fight again thank you oksana savchuk, good afternoon on this broadcast. before easter, you and i also had such an inclusion, and you talked about the fact that now is not the time to do anything with the moscow patriarchate, because there is a certain special operation going on, and this is not the most common thing for the country now, but more than a month and a half has already passed. please tell me if this is a problem because there are some internal issues. do you still think the problem is that there are no votes in the parliament to vote on the banning of the moscow patriarchate and the deputies are not ready? it to vote. what is your position on this issue? look at the position of the moscow patriarchate. it was and remains the same. you can confuse me with someone. you need to talk to

the moscow patriarchate. it is definitely not up to me . i am aware of what they were doing. keep in mind that the security service has done a lot of work in this direction , what concerns the deputies of the verkhovna rada. this is what we need to ask about them: why do they slow down certain things? why don't they adopt certain laws in times of war? there is a lot for ukraine to change, including for our deputies. when i was a deputy, i could answer your question. and now, every institution performs its functions , performs its tasks, unfortunately or fortunately, the apparatus does not have functions to accept laws or the state, a single institution called the verkhovna rada deals with this. danilov

, please. nana hopko has the floor. the aggressor state on the battlefield of ukraine to talk about the broader context and here you have a very clear position, but the nsdc was responsible for preparing, in particular, the law on the confiscation of russian assets inside ukraine. that is, on the one hand, this is a shift, but we see that there is no political will for some assets of russian oligarchs and, in particular, in the ukrainian parliament, we know what is needed. for some reason , representatives of the ukrainian government and the opposition held a lot of jazz festivals, and now there is no such determination, at the same time, there is arma and i just every day like all ukrainians, we see how we resort to drones as there is a critical shortage of drones, at the same time as you see the situation and the use of confiscated assets of russian oligarchs who still remain in the energy sector and this is a key issue eh i believe that the ministry of energy is not finalizing

preparation for the winter, which must be started already considering the critical situation in some areas and the fact that russia managed to destroy 40% there and so on, so two questions, first, how to improve what you have worked on the nsdc, in particular, on the confiscation of assets when there are problems with the army here we don't see how to use this money during the war. here's the second question, that's exactly what i said, thank you, i want to say more, colleagues, look at each one's powers, each institution must work according to the regulatory and legal provision that exists today in our country and everything related to the security and defense operator. i am ready to be responsible for our work, for our team, for our group that is working, working on these or other things. but the deputies, other institutions , other structures, what concerns the army, what as for assets, i am no longer sure that our public will clearly monitor

each enterprise, each, each institution that falls under the influence of this institution. the public will do it for them. maybe someone has not yet understood that our country has changed, but believe me, now a lot of people are beginning to understand it here, and i mean those who are officials and for some reason believe that they should live their own lives, they do not pay attention to the fact that there is a war going on in our country, this means the life that they are used to even before the arbitrary ones, all this will be noticeable, the only thing is that i would like to return to you, ladies, with the understanding that we are friends we have known for a long time, we communicate periodically, there is no need to be alarmed that it is 40% of the destroyed energy . yes, we

have some. there will be us it was not as difficult as it was this winter, there is a lot of work, but the work is ongoing and it is not always public, but within the limits of others , let's say so, here are the things that are present today, precisely on the preparation for winter, the work is ongoing, it will no longer want the enemy to have information that he has repaired what did we do, there are certain nuances here, mr. oleksiyu, i also wanted to ask you about security issues because we will also discuss it in our studio of president zelensky today during his visit to moldova he also talked about this about our e-e our probable possibility of joining nato and the eu, including uh, it is clear that we are waiting for this, we are waiting for the summit in july , maybe we will have some kind of invitation, some kind of invitation will sound uh, but still, if we imagine

the situation that we spent a successful counteroffensive pushed the enemy back to the borders that we need, namely at the border of 1991 , but we still understand that the threat from russia will continue to be there. we generally consider them are these alternative, let's not use the phrase if it's our task to make it so that if it wasn't. this is the second thing i want to say on the rope, but we mean that we defend ourselves independently. that's what our people have done since february 24, 22 no country in the world did this in the year 2008. as for the presence in nato, of course we really wanted everything to be clearly arranged

, as they say, short notes, but the world and the nato members themselves have caused this regret. not the only let's say this system. keep in mind that there only the concert is where decisions are made and we would very much not like there to be a false start when we started this process somewhere and some or other countries and then slow it down and here it is very difficult not about such negotiations of our president on this matter of our kind took place at the price of the stake of the supreme command or in the city of odesa before volodymyr oleksandrovych went to ukraine, which is not far from odesa, we also considered this question, close the fortune-telling, our task is to become a member of nato, as it is written in to our constitution, it is a difficult, painstaking, hard daily job. are you watching the cases that are happening in russia now and how they are reacting to it in principle, because it is clear that

the drones started flying over moscow, er, it is one way or another arose and caused panic in them, at least in social networks, we can see it in the reaction of their media, we can also see it, because they are already at some points growing, one contradicts the other. and the fact that putin himself , the president of the era, responded to what was happening in them to arrive too shows that well, here or they want. in this way, we don't know how to mobilize our people even more around this, they act by such methods as we understand, or really this for them causes them some kind of concern, at least, well, and in the end, these statements of their internal individual leaders prigozhin says one thing, the kadyrovs are already threatening him and calling for a bloody showdown. how do you think this could all end inside them? and what happened

, the drones flew to moscow? we say that we don’t know who is doing it. moscow is protected. protected city on the planet, they have a lot of air defense there, they put bread on these, remember, these shots were when they raised it, but it looks like it is difficult for us to say what is happening there, but i can definitely say that the drones were flying around moscow only about moscow. yes, they will continue to fly there because ukraine will be fragmented, so this process began. putin activated it two and a half years ago. it is difficult to say what is happening there, but believe me. and the ruble and in all their other cities where they are cluster those people who gave instructions to build our children. she will definitely continue to be, that is, she is engaged in this , well, time will pass, we can find out. i really think that this is the time of the movement. if there are no more questions from the studio, then we will let you go. thank you for

taking the time to we are with our audience in oleksiy danilov, the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, was with us via skype. trostetski will have a question for you. what to him no one showed us our plan directly. well, that's for sure, and it's obvious that they just discussed something, hmm, what do you think our trump cards might be, how does russia react to this, how does it all look now? well, i can add little to what oleksiy danilov said. eh, i really believe that no one, the senator, shows anything and the date of the direction of the strikes, eh, is characteristic of an offensive operation, it is really not our business, it is our business to know exactly what the offensive operation will be, if this offensive

operation is to take place in 2023, and already specifically, when it will take place, it will be decided by our military leadership , and i only want to add that my remark is so strategic, because i am one of those who, even last year and until today, said that the war would sooner or later transferred to the territory of russia. i never understand these restrictions imposed on us by various politicians , e.e., chancellors, presidents of western countries, telling us that something can be done here, something cannot be done and where the war is, we are being bombed on our country, players on the territory have captured us, it is clear that we we use all the military and non-military methods available to us in order to give the enemy as much military impression as possible, physical, moral , informational, and so on. and the fact that the drones are flying and the fact that the russian volunteer corps, which you, as part of the foreign legion of the armed forces of ukraine

, entered the territory of the belgorod region , then left tomorrow will such a raid war or such a raid strategy take place once again, it is also the eu and evidence that we are using all the available arsenal that is available to our army to our state in order to give to understand to the russians that they simply will not sit on the tv to watch what in this case belhorod or even heard in its own way and reacted in its own way, and it seems to me that there is another moment here that simply shows one of the ways to eliminate the first cause of this war, the first reason for this war is the existence of the russian imperial model in its current form , and until then ivan will not be destroyed, the war will not end even with the entry of our army at the border in 1991, how

successful will this example that we are now it is demonstrated, we will see, but the fact that the applicant is established that it is possible to solve the issue in russia in an armed way. i consider this to be a very correct step, which can have far -reaching consequences, because different people, for example , compared it in different ways. when in russia, the... from the front line to the interior of ukraine there, well, in the 17th year , they were peasants wearing military uniforms who heard that the land was being divided and returned to take part in it. well, accordingly, they reached where they were going. surrendered en masse, 3 million surrendered in 1941, how will this army behave now after ukraine strikes i hope in the right directions, well, this will probably be the third precedent. when will the russian army turn somewhere? well, it is desirable that they turn now

in the eastern direction, that is, i think that the trump card is in our hands, and the thing is that ukraine has the courage, because this is a decision that is taken by the relevant structures, so this personally puts me in a positive mood in this direction, we need to act and nobody and nothing don't be afraid of a good code, we were joined a little later by the head of the board of the network for the protection of national interests, the people's deputy of ukraine of the 8th convocation ms. hanna, what you asked the secretary of the nsdc is actually correct and even about 40% of our destroyed infrastructure we understand that the authorities do not want to scare people in any way, to cause panic that is not on them. but it seems to me that today all people heard the news that electricity prices will increase in our country, and they just explain that this increase is due to the fact that we have suffered infrastructure and we will have to save it, that's why everyone will feel it, we won't hide it, no matter how much we want to say that everything is fine, but still you travel a lot around the world to defend the interests of

ukraine. what we see around us. well, you know why i asked this question about energy, because we did not draw conclusions from last year about the failures that were in the preparation, and in fact , in the place of the president, i fired the minister of energy, i would give him an assessment in the form of deuces because thanks to society and only our ans network we brought cooperation with the french and germans 250 generators and helped the communities ms. oksana dealt with lviv oblast ivano-frankivsk oblast western ukraine yuliya vusenko in lutsk e that is, it is only the efforts of one organization but still in june in the 22nd year, when our analysts, such as mykhailo gonchar, center for global studies, strategy of the xxi century, said that russia was preparing a scenario of a famine, we went to washington with that scenario of a famine. we went to the national council of the white