[000:00:00;00] well, during these years of the war, we have become so technically knowledgeable about these things, and even this night and even 6 minutes flew by. yes , and we even know that some uh, western weapons are capable of knocking down such water . now it is possible to question that this weapon is there. but why then were such statements made to attract attention, because we really need to return attention to the fact that putin is using this in rhetoric, which means that he is ready for escalation and certain moments of escalation. you can ask where else there is much more on it is a pity and certain moments are already manifestations of this readiness, they are already obvious in russia , and the italian edition, but the republic , they wrote that they drew a parallel with this situation and the caribbean crisis, do you find any parallels between these two? well, you

know, you can draw an elephant behind i understand that the crimean crisis was a very serious challenge at the time, and the existence of the entire planet. today, i would not make a sign of identity between these two events , because the conflict is real now, as it is called. there, some countries have a local the nature of the nato countries are not drawn into it, at that time the cold war was actually spreading to all the countries of the world, and what was happening at that time in relation to the possibility of using and using caribbean nuclear weapons was a slightly different context. relevant statements that the use of nuclear weapons is impossible, of course there is a scenario that is currently being actively discussed well , not that it is actively being discussed, but i remember that there could be the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of some country well, even ukraine, for example, poland or somewhere else, and they say that this is how

the military events will unfold then, not in the territories of this country , poland is actively preparing for this. nobody rejects such scenarios, they are calculated but the probability is high or low. high or low well, we understand what shmyakin mentions once again . these events are not accidental and it is normal because everyone understands the inadequacy of putin lukashenko , which does not matter whether they are used or not strike out the critical weapon that it is necessary to warn, this is the most important thing from the point of view of the kremlin, relatively speaking, is such a step reactive or proactive? that is, it is a reaction to something or the imposition of a new agenda, some new item on the agenda. and this is already difficult to say because in some questions, er, the russians are already responding. in some questions, i am referring to this plan for the training of the belarusian aviation in order for them to carry nuclear weapons, so i can say that it is proactive, yes, but if you take into account the story

that is currently emerging on the european account, it is in the triangle of china, belarus, russia, and from western europe, this is already a reaction, of course, so it doesn't matter here now, as far as i'm concerned, what prompted this here, it's just that this uh, somewhere , you know, a spare over her was ready , they picked it up and got it, and here is katya, now the question is yes look, look, this is how it is, and of course it is not by chance that we are discussing it so actively with you now, because the topic is serious, it hurts our border. yes, and the fact that we are now getting another nuclear state, because we can hypothetically tell as much as we want that we are going , there are no weapons, or it exists, but formally formally it has already happened in a disguised way of course. therefore, for the same reason, the same for the un and for organizations that take care of the danger, belarus is becoming a threat, a threat, just like russia, and this is a challenge for them. what to do about it?

there should be an answer well, i think that we will soon see what kind of answer you foresee, what it can change in belarus , as well as in russia, we have reached the point that i have already become aware of the third thing, i will say that at the expense of shchebekin, because the events that are currently happening on the territory they will be in russia to take place on the territory of belarus, it is only a matter of time, we have already exhausted, i mean, the civilized world has exhausted the agenda that could, well, the implementation of which could lead to a change in the situation in russia itself, which would result in the end of the war against ukraine, all our powers, tools of persuasion . well, he has i mean not only ukraine. perhaps lastly, but first of all, the western world before putin before lukashenka. even through china, i obviously see china trying to end the war. this is my personal position china is not interested in the continuation of the war, for them the worst option is a freeze, but it is also acceptable for us, of course, to me, all the tools are exhausted in order to convince

you that you still have a chance to change something, what happens next, of course, a radical action is the spread of radical moods on the territory of these countries. it is not that there is some kind of conspiracy or something else, it is a classic of the change of power in general, which is a danger for civilizational education if the government is not ready to respond accordingly to the desire to be humane, not to wage war and so on . it must be destroyed , destroyed by force. for the purpose of self-preservation, this is normal, this is normality, it is necessary for us to know that we valued and evaluated and offered further, because there is this change in the world, so today i read ignat’s comment about what he said we cannot destroy the installations of iskander, which we are now they are hitting us

on the territory of russia , we have an obligation here, the western world is sorry, this is an object that is destroying us. the issue will also be resolved, it cannot last like this for eternity, that's why even now, all the tools have been exhausted when we write down what to do, this government will simply be destroyed, the same thing will happen in belarus and lukashenko - he perfectly understands, but will russia suffer? i'm not saying putin, i'm saying some kind of russian federation responsibility for the violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. and in what way will the responsibility under this be transferred to what things if it remains a separate state, really political , what other responsibility do we have? it would be normal. when all of them that his putin is handsome, who is now riding around russia

, tells that it is necessary to lift everyone up, announce the sentence and so on, there would be strikes so that they all sit on the dock and they received specific terms of imprisonment, the fetus to be shot, this is fair . they must be destroyed so that everyone will understand who will try to profess their ideas and principles, and so on. i don't see it, unfortunately, that's why the theorists all went the second way, and this second way means the destruction of the regime by force directly on its territory, we have such examples dafi you already yes, huseyn herself, so it is certain that sooner or later it will happen and this process has already been launched

. this is the responsibility we are talking about. we called for financial responsibility. he is going to the highway, he is not going like this, the question of his trip in the year that will be held in the summer, for the inauguration, they scolded us and said we cannot provide for him like that just yesterday, mr. putin, how did they address him , we could somehow fix everything today the possibilities of tolerating the war have already been exhausted, exhausted, if not completely exhausted. it is already on the verge of such that every country thinks that either i will defect or i will enter this same club, he said, for example, to brazil , such a position is absolutely acceptable, such as some advice to ukraine what do we need to get rid of, even you now i remember croatia , i understand, i will still be like this, i'm sorry, i apologize for this word, but i can't call it any other way, well, it's a bright characteristic, like the president's choir, there will definitely be us we will see such manifestations in other

countries in participation from time to time american countries take their turn, there is an answer to this question for each of them, the text is unambiguously russian, absolutely it will rise at a certain moment, they warned about blackmail or direct order, that is, people cooperate with whom it is necessary, yes, absolutely yes a please tell me the situation, the fact is that with the news about this and lukashenka's statements about what we have now signed and have already started transporting weapons , there was another news about what happened there on the same day or a day later the main intelligence agency said that it had released information that the russians might be preparing a provocation at the zaporizhzhia npp. in your opinion, this would be a phenomenon of the same order , the same nuclear blackmail or something else. i think that another question that arises again in our minds is, well, it is hypothetical. maybe it is not worth it.

yes, it would be good to analyze it in detail yes, but still, i will say yes, the assumption is absolutely an assumption of the gur, i just reminded that we have a problematic atomic object and a nuclear object that can also be said to be dangerous for the lives of many people and even to the european union, because, by the way, this statement was made on the eve of the tripartite negotiations that took place in russia and ukraine regarding the measures that could be taken . by the way, my subscribers reacted very falsely . how is it? we negotiate with russia. we do not negotiate with russia. friends, there are no direct negotiations with russia . there are no negotiations through a third party, such as through the grain corridor. contacts with russians can be kept somewhere

, exchange of prisoners and so on. this is also normality, there is no betrayal here. i would like to. for millions, this means the continuation of this blackmail, but as far as i am concerned, all this was announced on the eve of the conference , the actual holding of these possible negotiations , possible agreements reached, they did not take place. although, as far as i am concerned, it will be of course the situation is what we hear from zaporizhzhia and from the leadership of energoatom and so on. well, it is not easy around zaporizhzhia, there is a power plant, but the fact that the russians are preparing to leave there. well, it is obvious to me why this is so. and to many, because in the same energodar, the situation is extremely difficult in that is why there were so many free people, so many military men arrived who would be ready to repulse the attacks of the armed forces of ukraine there, but this can change at one moment, change in some way, as it was in the kherson region in kherson also, a lot of uncles took it away, the military remained free, but they where the moment they left can go by analogy with the situation

at chornobyl with a good fire and only when it is necessary to, well, there at the chornobyl npp the story was a bit different, there was a story born of a forest well, yes, they lit up first and then , yes , on the air, yes, in particular, absolutely. and as for the energy donation, i will have a similar situation from kherson oblast. sometimes interesting theses let's put it this way, another interesting thesis was voiced just the day before, he already said that if a situation arises that it is possible to add and putin is charged , that means there is a criminal case, roughly speaking , then we may have to negotiate with them, what putin and macron talked about at the time in macron's residence when putin paid an official visit to france, if i am not mistaken, in 2019, when exactly this phrase was heard . it is the same that is still circulating as a meme about europe from

lisbon to vladivostok. maybe then there will also be some kind of agreement between macron and putin. moreover, micron won the election, and considering that lepen has enormous support for france, it is pro-russian, so it is possible , even that is, she was a teacher, of course. well , we do not say anything to understand absolutely to help, for example, the russians in the victory of lepen , they actively influence politics and they influence the politics of the united states of america as well. it was not by chance that he became president, we do not claim that it is necessary , but that the united states of america and other countries often talk about interference in the elections of the russians well, these are well-known facts that do not need proof. therefore, they may not be completely unproven, but they have been voiced, so i think that macron also has a very interesting history of relations with putin, and maybe that is why he makes such quite professional statements as you say, when on the one hand macron is supposedly okay

ok yes, he also provides weapons and there are no questions. well, indeed, he was one of the first to actually provide tanks , well, they are wheeled tanks , but they are tanks , but less so. it seems to me that he is playing such a double game that this statement by macron , which says that let's not arrest putin , because you know, if we handed him over to uaz, because we will negotiate with whom we will negotiate with him, he is the successor of the president of russia, according to the constitution, he is the successor of the president of russia something will happen to him, i don’t see a problem with this, but macron does. so what does dependence on russia mean? i think that, especially in the last week, ukrainians definitely do not want to negotiate with putin, i will now say yes the so-called infernal may arranged for us by russia, all these mean missiles. what are they flying every night? and tell me, please, is it possible

, seeing all this, to absolutely seriously suspect russia or putin there, that they are there somewhere a-a they have some kind of negotiations in mind no, i am far from thinking that they went to the bank , they are a red breaker. they were preparing for this, we must understand that there are a number of countries of the third education that actively contribute to the support of the military-industrial complex of russia, they continue to trade , continue. well, okay, let's take india it buys a lot of oil. saudi arabia has even made claims to the russians that they are engaged in overproduction of oil, although the agreements were different, well, this is a fact of how to negotiate with the russians . 12 yes, the sanctions packages of the european union , in particular, include a number of sanctions that will be applied to these third-country companies that

contribute to this, this is a huge problem about this even the president said that's why they have something to beat, they will beat . moreover, it seems to me that no one knows exactly how many missiles they have, but they have a lot of missiles of the stryst system, and they actively use them in the east of zaporizhzhia donetsk region, kharkiv region, it has been happening for a long time, it is happening now with kyiv, it is already here in kyiv , they are starting to use ballistics because of this. this story , well, it will not stop for now, unless the one who makes decisions there changes russia, that is, if the entity with which you can negotiate does not change, because now russia is not ready for victory, it is ready to accept our capitulation, and there are already four companies in the region , yes. the rhetoric has not changed, the only thing is that they don't talk about denazification, where er, militarization, but it

doesn't solve our problem for them , they don't care about our problems, that's why it's funny. it seems that the deputy minister of foreign affairs seems to have said that besides all that, it means no nato, no eu, and respecting the russians means they heard it, well, that’s absolutely what they think. so when at the top echelons of foreign policy, he says they respect us, well, that’s from one funny side, they carry it, they will carry the complex and the complex, yes, if valeriy has a lot of resumes of the placement of nuclear weapons on the territory of belarus, we should not worry about it for now, at least, well, we expect belarus for the second year, it is not there and i do not. and there is no reason to talk about these conditional or mythical nuclear weapons. well, it can be quite real and mythical. yes, i have long been a weapon on the territory

of belarus, this may be a factor for uh, one more round in the negotiations , of course, simply today, russia showed that it was able to gain in the field and orbit of its influence precisely belarus, which was actively claimed by china, china chose the countries of central asia, which in russia are called russia's backyard , the china central asia summit was held recently powerful for the first time in history after the collapse of the soviet union, osipin spoke with the countries of the former soviet union separately without russia, this says a lot , that's why it is such a big geopolitical chess game. i am absolutely not that i am not convinced, i do not even miss it, then it will not pass, but the probability of some processes within belarusian society that can lead to

the end of the lukashenko regime in society no the situation among the society of belarus is similar to that within the society in russia. if there are external factors, if today the russian volunteer corps and the legion of freedoms of russia are in russia . one more question it appeared to me and the answer to it once appeared in my head during the preparation for this program that the only answer to this whole cunning political nuclear game of russia can be belarus simply supplying ukraine with more weapons and more advanced modern weapons, i do not rule it out , but i will say frankly that i do not see tricks in this game, it is banal, primitive, i expected it for a long time because it is so natural. i didn't see the whole story, i didn't hear any resounding statements that oh

, what happened, rather, kazakhstan was confused by this, china , but i don't know because i think that kazakhstan , apart from other things, was like normal in general. well , more or less sober countries or politicians were definitely confused with such i would say with such psychopathic ease oh hahaha join us well here is my nuclear weapon so it's a little untraveled but it doesn't exactly correspond to the club of presidents where it will be completely different in this part a very cool example can be given when there was a small conflict with senzipin at the summit of the g20. when he said, we agreed with you, this is not how it is done . of course, the worlds are different and the views are different and the system is different , but you do not introduce presidents like that, and what lukashenko and putin are doing today it

also falls out of the paradigm of normal communication of the club of presidents of all countries, well , how are we with you? it is already possible to finish well, you and i, of course, are waiting for when rabies, at least in our part of the world, will become less or will not become at all for this and the only news marathon continues, which continues, and i think that in our guests, the emphasis was valery klychok, head of the center for public analytics, the tower. thank you very much for the conversation, and i think that there is nothing to be afraid of even though nuclear weapons are on the territory of belarus for now. well, you definitely don’t need to, but don’t pay attention to missile attacks . you shouldn’t sound an air alarm if you hear an alarm signal, because please go expose save your life and your loved ones and everything will be fine

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