[000:00:00;00] there was a natural reduction of the population, well, the 21st year is there, and covid added a lot. but even in previous years, the birth rate was much lower than the death rate, that is why the population of ukraine, starting from the 93rd year, has been constantly decreasing, as far as the war is concerned. well, you yourself do you understand that this is a crisis, it can be cut in any way, it can be economic, social, and demographic , first of all why? the factor is the natural behavior of people and a plus in our case is a huge simply huge migration of people going abroad, and we can’t even accurately estimate how many are currently abroad , approximately the office of the un high commissioner

for refugees says that it is a little more than 8 million of them approximately 2, 8 2.9 in russia, but the administration of the high commissioner before the data in those countries, in those countries, in the bodies of those countries for which they provide all the information. that is, these are russian data, and as far as they can be trusted, it is big question and who do they include there, various experts say that it is approximately maybe a million less, but it is still a huge number , as for europe, in europe there are a little more than five million, they say that our refugees are now located, but on the other hand, our border guards give well, the so-called the balance of migration is the difference between those who entered and those who left, well, it is less than about two times , no one can explain this discrepancy. and that is why we do not know for sure how many are abroad , respectively, we do not know how many people

are in the territory of ukraine, by the way, if to talk about the demography of ukraine here, she basically understood how you rightly said that the problem did not arise now in 1989 , and there were 52 million ukrainians living in these ukrainian territories, and we did not have a census somewhere. accordingly, we do not have the numbers we can say, but there were estimates that on the eve of the invasion, they said that there were about 40 million people living somewhere in ukraine. well , again, you understand, well, the census was in 2001, and between the census periods, the current estimates are made by the state statistics service on the basis of information about the number of births and deaths and migrations, that is why we had such estimates, but when we say that we are comparing certain years, we must mean the territory for which

these data are given, if the data of the 89th census , respectively, in 2001, it was for the entire territory of ukraine, then that number there is a little more than 40 41 million - this is for the territory without crimea, but from the territory of the ordlo and the ordlo , there was practically no information. that is, if the number of the ordlo was, well, supposedly from the 14th year , if it was frozen, what i agree with him okay, but if you take it very roughly, as they say, well, it turns out that in 30 years , ukraine has shrunk by at least 25%. yes, 25 years, a question for you which i am very interested in, which concerns demography when we talk about our enemy, the russian federation , according to their official data

, 143 million people live in them now, if we take the census data of the 89th year of the rsfsr, and i don’t know if there was a census then well, the data for the year 89 are open in them, then 147 million were credited to the account , that is, it is claimed that the russians are behind the hook years lost a little more than 2% of the population ukraine 25 they are a little more than two there are a lot of opinions that in fact this figure is very overestimated and the real number of russian citizens is much lower they say just millions even about 90 million i even heard just 20 million but in your opinion or could i just remember that for 30 years everyone said the same thing that in russia there was a catastrophic low level of health , very early mortality of men was high enough, child mortality was also very low, the birth rate was very low

, how could this happen? what did the russians lose 2 %, a we are 25, but this is russian statistics and you can’t believe it, well, first of all, russian statistics include the population of russia and crimea, it is -2 and 3, 2.4 million, and secondly , during the population censuses, their expert demographers confirm that there was an overestimation of the population, a certain omission, but it is also two or three million, but no, well, it is slightly more than what they say about 90,100 million in russia, this does not correspond to reality, because there are other indicators, such as the number of births , the number of deaths, the sex structure and well, there are some specific indicators that make it possible to estimate the total number of the population, because the demographic behavior of the population does not change very much over time, it

changes gradually, which means that there is also a decrease in the population, but you, uh, all the time after the collapse of the soviet union, russia pursued a policy of attracting if they encouraged their russians and citizens of other former republics of the soviet union to move to russia, this is a program for the return of compatriots, and they paid. well, as they say what was the raising money, the person moved paid for the move, some initial assistance after the person settled in russia, they provided him with such things, now many people have also left russia, and there are no certain estimates because they also closed the migration statistics. well, the exact number of the population is unknown, but it is if you compare it with ukraine, the demographic situation there

is not the best either, but in ukraine it really happened. due to several factors and a change in the reproductive behavior of the population, the transition from a single family to a one-person family has occurred in our country, a reduction in the birth rate, an increase in the average age of the mother at the birth of a child, that is, an increase in births from a younger age to, well, the oldest age in our country, if preserved mortality is very much the structure of the mortality of deaths well, it does not correspond to what is in europe, we have a very strong excess mortality of men of working age, well

, we have a large proportion of deaths, well, if in a fight before the age of 65, what is called premature mortality, well, a lot, a lot, as far as migration is concerned, in principle, official migration before this full-scale invasion, we had small even plus there 20-30 thousand supposedly came to us for permanent residence every year, but in our opinion, there is a large undercount of those of ukrainians who went abroad for temporary work and stayed there , according to various expert assessments, for example, from the 2001 snack, it is approximately 1.5 million people, so we have a negative impact on all components of the demographic process

the situation if well, when the war ends and the return of all ukrainian territories, it will mean that a country with a larger territory than france may end up with a population of, for example, 30 million, this is a problem in general , well, we are just you. if you were to name the number that we predict that in the 37th year there will be approximately 30 million of us in the borders of 1991 , that is if everyone who went abroad returns. not in our country. opposite flows, part of the men will go to the women who have found employment there, and part of the women with children will return, it will depend on the availability of housing , employment opportunities and the social services

that ukraine can provide for raising children, this is such a complex factor, but not all of them will return far away. maybe if 50% will return - this will not be bad for us, that's why there are various hypotheses, forecasts, it's the same thing, the method itself is scientifically based, and the hypothesis that is included in the predictions of the hypothesis birth rate, death rate, emigration, it really depends on the researcher, so far, we at the institute believe that it will be approximately 30 million if compared with the area. so i think that the area of ​​the country should be populated and maintained because , well, if practically all of ukraine is suitable for living and conducting some kind of economic activity and such a large territory, it will not be unattended if the industry develops here, there will be a need for a work style and the global economy anyway. will our

entrepreneurs import labor from of other countries. therefore, this is a big problem. in what sense, because there is a large migration, large volumes of migration, they affect the ethnic and cultural composition of the country and can cause certain um, well, if the tension in the country can be, that is why, in principle, the demographic policy of its component, the migration policy, should already be to be developed at the level of state institutions is not a scientific problem, it is a complex problem of the state-state level . you say all this slogan that we will rebuild. we believe because well, we see

, for example, how in kyiv, houses are being rebuilt , there is damage, and i'm sorry, that in the east, how will it be rebuilt, when it will be rebuilt, will people want to return to those cities, where destroyed, where the relatives died, well, this is a big problem, the second thing you asked is whether the government of ukraine is interested in this well, i can say that it is interesting, we constantly receive requests regarding the analysis of the demographic situation, well , the impression is that everyone thinks that we should all to know now very limited demographic information, but it is holding certain meetings to improve the development of certain measures to improve the demographic situation of the nsdc, the migration situation, is interested in the ministry of infrastructure, the ministry of economy , the ministry of social policy, the ministry of social policy, well, i think that it will soon begin this work on the development of a certain demographic program, because well,

finally the authorities felt that the demographic situation is important and that the population is not just an electorate that needs to be attracted to some activities. and the current future existence of the state also depends on the population, the number of the population, the gender structure of the population. tell me , please . i'm an academic, a specialist in ukrainian, also in demography. she said no. expect a baby boom after the end of the war, but nevertheless, are there in principle ways of some kind of stimulation? i know, i just thought of this movie.

the story is a real story on netflix, adapted from a girl from the hasidic community, a very, very fundamentalist orthodox community, who fled to berlin from the united states, but there was an interesting philosophy of this particular community that after experiencing the shock, the shock of the genocide, the shock of the holocaust, hasidim, why did you decide that they will necessarily have a lot of children in the family just to restore the jews who were destroyed in this war ?

methods to try to change this philosophy of ukrainians, what is the best way to do with to make more with more birth rate, you know about birth rate when we discuss about the development of hypotheses, practically we have no disagreements that the birth rate in ukraine will not increase rapidly and at the expense of the birth rate, we do not we will be able to compensate for the decrease in the population decrease in the population we are discussing a lot about migration regarding birth no , it would not be bad if ukraine reached the birth rate that is now in the western in europe, we simply switched to the western european model, which means that in order for there to be no population reduction due to natural factors, 100 women should give birth to approximately 220 children, which means that in europe now, 100 women give birth to 150-160 children in each country, and they compensate for this through migration, we assume that it is unlikely that ukraine will reach even this level, and

according to our forecasts it will be somewhere around 130-140. that is , it is about a third less than what is needed to preserve the population, or are there different methods in different countries france actively supports, pays extra to people in some countries, they simply create the appropriate infrastructure and, well, simplify, for example, for young families, obtaining housing, there is a salary , there is a detailed incentive for the first , for the second, for the third child, there are different scenarios, but in principle, they do not so much stimulate the birth as, well, if support the family for sure at a certain economic material level. that is, in ukraine, the birth of a child increases the probability that the family will be below the poverty line even here

supplementary payments at birth i remember very well that the baby boom, relatively speaking, in the 19th century , which took place in britain, took place precisely in the middle class, and it was a very interesting demographic phenomenon, when the middle class suddenly literally in a few generations began to prevail quantitatively precisely because the family an average middle-class woman could afford four or five or more children and they survived. it has been 18 years since the system existed, it rather stimulated people from the bottom of society, uh, at the expense of having children. somehow, i don't know how to satisfy my needs, and this is actually a stick until the end. well, there is such a moment. i'm still talking about this. what is material

support ? but the woman gave birth and went on maternity leave. and she doesn't get anything. the family's income decreased by three times after the birth of the child . this is absolutely an economic problem. -is wages, which in our country will not be european, there is also a problem of social infrastructure. although certain steps are being taken in the social infrastructure to affect the working hours of children's institutions, but all this will finally be resolved only after the war. thank you, thank you . the heads of demographic modeling and forecasting of the bird institute of demography and social research of the national academy of ukraine

told us about what ukraine can expect eh, no wonder, some kind of miracle will not happen, our population is shrinking and replenishing it will most likely be impossible boatswain from russia is an international criminal and now we will talk about her, we are contacting the russian, the founder of the freezing intelligence agency molfar, who actually prepared the material about this woman, the mother of many children, what else did you manage to find out about this person who did just some heartbreaking car 'eru in

russia, which continues to move up these career ladders at the expense of ukrainian children , a relative camera , even if its path there is short, mr. artem, yes . why the reason why they are so bad or so good and in general, maria ryboobilova did not surprise us much, she is plus or minus the same as other russian propagandists, this and civil servants, in fact, everything depends on the will of the government and the desire to get as much money as possible and if you start there from the beginning, then she does not have a professional education at all in order to be in the beatsmen and she studied at a pension school to become a conductor and her father also taught at this school, so i think there was some kind of patronage here , that is, she has she had a musical education, but somehow her career didn't really develop

until she went to work and the organization that deals with children's at her mother's. it was called blagovest, and there she met the uh, uh, the ombudsman who was with her and actually then her political career began, she already joined the united russia party, and then in the 18th year she became putin's confidant in the russian elections. well, the final icing on the cake was when she went to religion, in principle, in russia, it is enough to leave the government and a plus support religion in what way. she supports religion because her husband is a priest. the family story is very interesting because they are all involved in business because there is no other way

. which as as in principle these people make money from these children, how can they get money, well, they get compensation from the government, money from private donors, and they make money from you precisely because they put their relatives in management positions, in fact , she has one sister, sofia and lviv bilova, and she manages one of the inclusive houses and another sister. she was engaged in the construction of one of the houses, acted as an architect , received 1 million rubles from there, plus i also donate from the church, and in general, this is a family contract, let’s say this is the main source of income, and plus from that it already looks much worse because there is a story that a guy died in one house. they wanted to evict him from there, and then when it turned out that maria was a lover, she forced him to take a loan and give the money to an orphanage, so this is also receiving

loans from the residents of these houses maybe this is this, people know how to come up with such a thing. how can you think of such a thing? what do you need to be maria lviv and belova for sure ? thank you, mr. artem , for the story. the persona of maria lvova bilova, who is now engaged in the kidnapping of ukrainian children and reflashing them into russians, also allegedly adopted herself in order to show the russians how kind and beautiful she is, she also adopted ukrainian children and changed their names

that sooner or later she will be punished by the international criminal court and will end up behind bars where there is a place, well, uh, we are on this, uh, two news, i will tell you the first, uh, the european parliament has finally passed a decision of half a billion euros are allocated to increase production to increase production of shells for the armed forces of ukraine this is an expected decision, but it is still a big victory, this is the main thing that our military needs now. well, also the congress finally voted on the necessary amendments in order for the united states to avoid default on a higher debt bar, this is also the good news is yet to come, the next one is so stay away from

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