[000:00:00;00] in the area of ​​action, then, the operation, fortunately, the operation did not succeed, and now i think that, after all, the international community will be forced to recognize russia as the aggressor of the zaporizhia npp officially and demand already san- demand sanctions let's say this not just with words, but with sanctions, with tough sanctions in relation to russia, what about the withdrawal of russian troops from the zaporozhye npp, well, in any case , i understand that the issue is extremely difficult from the point of view of conducting hostilities, when at the heart of this potential mood can to be a nuclear facility here, in fact, each side is trying to use, well, all the possibilities to their advantage, it will be extremely difficult . as i understand it, and regardless of how our hostilities will continue, how quickly we will extradite to the borders of our country, everything is equal, then the issue of guarantees arises of security and

on time now we are talking about the beginning of such a new format of discussions about what ukraine needs most from the point of view of guaranteeing security, there is one version - this is joining the alliance, the second intermediate option - this is a guarantee of security from low countries, the third option that appears there is also certain contractual relations between the united states and ukraine, following the example of israel or japan or south korea, they are all different models in fact and i would like to hear your vision of how this process will develop, what is optimal for ukraine and what will actually be realistically implemented in these conditions well, in my opinion , first of all, there is no alternative to nato, that is, nato is the only model that suits ukraine if we are talking about our security well, i think that there is no other option for nato

as well. how to include ukraine finally in its security system of ensuring the defense of the members of this euro-atlantic security organization. that is why here. in my opinion , nato does not have a clear conviction for us. there is no alternative now, specifically because of what is happening at the moment, that is, at the moment, we cannot be included in nato , because we have an active phase, it is not with russia , and it is obvious that article 5, it will demand from everyone members of the organization ie spain a-and the netherlands, hungary, and italy immediately start a war with russia, and it is obvious that this development of events does not suit the majority of the nato countries, which are not named, i think they will not immediately agree to become a participant, he is also

from russia, which is, in principle, official and the united states just yesterday seems to have been a statement by one of the official representatives that one of the main goals of the united states was to support ukraine. want therefore, if we now imagine the immediate inclusion of ukraine on the vinnytsia omentary to nato , it is obvious that it will be against the interests of the united states and the majority of nato countries. they actually understand the danger from the development of events, that is, there is a reality, there is no donation, but on the other hand, nato will not accept us at the vinnytsia summit because it is against the interests of the majority of the ato countries, which exit from the talks about security guarantees is called israeli the option is again the israeli option, it is interesting. but it seems to me that ours is already better

even than the israeli option, because the ramstein format is actually the same as the israeli option, that is, without declaring any military-political guarantees for ukraine. er, and military-technical support and financial support and organizational and personnel training , that is, any support other than direct participation or direct participation, again, i repeat, does not meet the interests of the majority of nato countries, therefore the format rammstein, in principle, is already the basis of the security guarantee, and if you look at what else can be added to these guarantees, i think that it is possible to sign declarations or sign agreements again, as i formulated for myself the next task of ukraine at the next vilnius summit

this is to prevent budapest-2 to prevent e bucharest 102 when we were announced in 2008 that we would be members of nato and then eh this all died and to prevent minsk 3 that is to actually prevent these attempts to freeze the conflict ot if these three tasks let's take a look at what the solution can be. i think that the basis can be, in principle, ukraine's proposal - this is the so-called kyiv security compact, the elements that are already there are written there and in the rammstein format , and in principle, it is carried out in relations with nato the hard work continues, that is, we are looking after the same thing. by the way, and i forgot one more thing, it would be nice to include such a standard phrase in the final declaration. the alliance is starting negotiations with ukraine on nato membership, that is,

actually himself gave huge and powerful the signal is political that we broke out of the trap of bucharest where we were simply promised because the start of negotiations on membership means that ukraine is already actually invited, but of course you can include the phrase that specific decisions on the inclusion of ukraine in nato will already be praised by consensus bearing in mind that when it ends active phase, he is from russia , here i say that uh, we are talking about victory , but it is obvious that russia can, for example, not sign the capitulation, we can expel their russians abroad, but russia, for example, will to self-isolate and refuse to pay us compensation, to sign the capitulation and to be declared war criminals, but this does not mean that we cannot join nato at this moment or the active phase will end, so i think that such a political signal can be launched in the declaration and then ah to create e-e platforms at the expense of signing some variants e-e of the kyiv security kit, but in principle, the situation is

quite complicated, but unfortunately, e-e, this is reality , that is, we do not have a simple solution for this moment well, by the way, this concept of yours looks quite slender. i think that it will somehow be embodied in the decision of the site of the meeting in vinnytsia, because in fact we are really talking about an extremely complex situation that must be multi-component and take into account today's perspective and all the risks p. mykhailo as always, it was very interesting to listen to you. thank you for your inclusion for your profession , and i would like to remind our viewers that mykhailo samustya, the head of the antique organization nu galiticsory network, was on the air on the stress channel, and then we let's talk about the existing risks for ukraine from russia with missile attacks, we'll talk about it literally in a few minutes with our next guest pain can become an obstacle walking up the stairs not with

my knees from knee pain try the dolgit cream, it relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, you can and on foot the only yellow cream for joint pain champions league final on megogo man city is the most powerful team in europe but in istanbul inters plays like the last one in life watch the season 10 super final exclusively on megogo is discounts on pantestin darnytsia gel 10% in pharmacies traveller, you and savings, de-occupation, how can we now live without fools , it is possible

, unsurpassed, the history of the liberated cities of ukraine are gone. let's see how our brothers helped us. day one by one, two houses and ukrainian people were burning . well, this is some kind of here. yes, we are all nationalist people here. did the residents resist ? they came out here, stopped them and sent them back. became heroes, the novel was still and will always be ukraine about the unbreakable cities of ukraine from the ukraine project in the documentary cycle de-occupation that saturdays at 11:10 on espresso there is a war going on and not only for the territories it is also a war for the minds russia is throwing millions of naftodors to transform ukrainians in little russia, ukraine will become russia, analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists, specific facts and methods by which enemy propaganda turns

people into obedient zombies to the information attacks of the russians in the project of the chronicle of the information war with olga leni from june 5, tuesday, thursday, friday at 17:10 on the espresso tv channel, returning to our program, we will now talk about the missile threat used by the enemy of the kremlin, not being able to demonstrate victories on the battlefield, it really resorts to missile terror tactics, the enemy uses modern winged air-sea and land-based missiles , as well as iranian drones, and the statistics for may were impressive, for this month the enemy used 500-66 means of impression, of which there were 185 missiles of various types and 381 unmanned aerial vehicles

the complex is the main thing, precisely these iranian martyrs, at the same time, the ukrainian air defense forces destroyed 90% of the pontoon, this is exactly 154 missiles and 342 drones, and i will mention that when evaluating the effectiveness of this or that air defense system , if more than 60% of the targets are identified, it is considered that such air defense is effective. now we are talking about the fact that the potential of ukrainian air defense is approaching 92-93 percent. we understand that this is mainly based on the indicators of combat operations, primarily around the capital because now the enemy is just trying to direct most of his efforts to the capital, where many echelon air defense systems are located, we know about the patriot complexes and other foreign models, in particular , the anti-aircraft complexes on the sams and the soviet models of the letter type and the s-300, which further provide cover for certain areas from

by which the enemy can attack our capital and here what is important is that these attacks on the capital during the last two weeks were quite revealing because the enemy used different strategies we remember the option 60 drones were launched then there was a mix of drones and cruise missiles. then there were ballistic missiles, then again, as it was on the night of the second of june , when unmanned systems and cruise missiles were also used . 21 drones, that is, the enemy continues to attack the ukrainian capital, for some time i made the assumption that these attacks should actually decrease. and in fact, i still

believe that these measures that the russian federation is implementing now are primarily based on significantly accumulated reserves of cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and unmanned systems, which the enemy is now using in a concentrated manner against the capital to achieve several goals, this is precisely the terrorist measures, the influence on the political military leadership and on our population, although this actually only causes irritation, anger and does not affect stability in any way the second component of our nation is, first of all, attempts to exhaust our air defense at the expense of a significant number of targets of various kinds. we remember these conclusions from documents of the pentagon that in may, it seems, ukraine was supposed to run out of stockpiles of missiles for the buk complexes, but we understand that when we talk about the 101st missile complexes on the 101st, a

transport plane can bring a missile to ukraine for such the amount that, in principle , will be enough to conduct hostilities for a month, and now we are talking about the strategy of russia with our next guest, ihor romanenko , retired lieutenant general, at one time, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. general, i congratulate you. i congratulate you i would also like to hear from you your vision of this tactic or strategy of the russian federation with regard to such a large number of mass attacks, does it have a certain limit, what is the goal it pursues , what conclusions can you draw as a professional military man who at one time was in principle responsible for the defense of kyiv by means of anti-aircraft defense defense, the enemy is trying to take some measures regarding the fact that , first of all, to reduce the potential of our future offensive counter-offensive actions in connection

with the fact that in the near future it will end in the formation of a strategic reserve of the corresponding and we also remember that in the east of our country, a strategic defense is being carried out. the operation and the enemy are not stopping yet, and the task of this defensive operation is to stop hmm, the advance, and tactically, although small , to destroy as much as possible of the enemy's manpower and equipment, you must come to the defense, because it will significantly affect on land, it cannot be transferred from the air sphere and carries out the corresponding massed blows, the number of which increases in intensity due to the fact that

they accumulated a corresponding number of a year more than a year increased by 30% somewhere according to various estimates of foreign sources of production of modern high-precision missiles such as the iskander caliber well and air-based christ hole 50055 definitely this is pressure on, as they say in propaganda, the place of decision-making, which is clear that kyiv is the capital, from the point of view of the object, as a military-political center , an object of economic

, social, etc. for this a set of means is used, its tactics change, that is, a ballistic cruise missile is used, as well as unmanned lethal vehicles of the shock type, as well as munitions garaged, which are popularly called kamikaze. i want to clarify. iskander began to actively use the nasty ones in the ballistic and nested version because it is quite scarce in the russian arsenal. do you have an explanation for why

the russians have begun to bet on this type of weaponry right now? this is a good question from the point of view of how the tactics of use are changing and what it is aimed at . i would like to say that the use of unmanned aerial vehicles is still taking place in the old way as a rule, at night you use the channels of the dnieper eh, so you use our highways, roads eh, and why. because at night, the probability of their destruction is less than with the means of anti-flood defense, because not all of them, for example, kruk eh, are equal machine guns or small-caliber anti-aircraft artillery means have thermal imaging devices in order to timely identify and destroy these places, the means of the enemy at night, and this is, firstly, secondly due to what is happening and the destruction

of unmanned aerial vehicles at this time, the enemy conducts intense reconnaissance and space radio-technical electronic any to collect information about the location of our anti-aircraft defenses, especially hunting is clearly on batteries of anti-aircraft missile systems with anti-missile capabilities such as the petri pact, the three latest modifications, as well as the italian francs , the mamba itself, and the answer

is already here, why exactly with the kanders? there, for example, from podmurmansk, the planes must fly to the anchorage area of ​​the caspian sea. there, for example , they will enter the relevant data . iskanders can do it quickly, although again i agree with you that their number is reduced to less than an untouched reserve and this is for these categories of missiles, that is, iskanders, the calibers and air bases of football iskanders are the least of all. they are trying to use skanders and cruise missiles. that is, this launcher can launch both other, but their characteristics are different, that is, the advantages of canders are that they have a ballistic

territory, high speeds in the final sections of their territory, and the advantages or qualities of cruise missiles are that they can be launched from one side of the target and fly in and come in to strike from various other parents that they are also trying to act , that is why such an algorithm is being developed , the last time of the use of missiles of various types as well as the enemy's unmanned aerial vehicles, then explain to me one more story, because actually in we had two cases of h400 complexes being used at an object in kyiv. in january of this year , the general staff said that the s400 was used in kyiv . according to our data, there were about 10 launches of s400 launches in kyiv.

were just in december, just in time for the new year holidays, and now s400 and missiles, the potential of these missiles has for some reason fallen out of use on the russian side, the question arises. stocks, in particular, of the same e-e and iskanders in one or another format. so, your vision is why the enemy does not use the h400 to strike the s-400, this is a very dangerous target . they are actively used, but more than 5,000 s300 eh. but the s400 can operate at a longer range in earth mode up to 200 km. the s300 is closer to 102, which is

150 km, and it is fundamentally important here, for example , now there were reports of the development of foreign sources regarding the fact that the russians are additionally dropping the s400 in belarus that is, it is to the north of their application in relation to ukraine and in relation to, for example, the capital with 400 less, they are modern and they protect in connection with the fact that it is necessary to cancel from the point of view of which flood defenses were developed directly, but they have a longer range and when used, a very short time, a flight , a vacation to an impression, targets, and they can be destroyed most likely by a5 such modern complexes as the patriot and the action itself, and there are

manual modes, it was automated and automatic and most likely work is lacking automatically, that is, for these directions you need to know the development to be already turned on unfolded and as soon as it appears to everyone, uh , the person does not have time, i service does not have time, the whole network i work only for you in automatic the regime therefore has quite a lot of difficulties, but their ps4 capabilities are less than the s-300 everywhere else - in fact , they use it on the borders in the border area to strike, unfortunately, under our civilian object, there are a lot of terrorist attacks, and the s400, how about you well, not often, because they guard it. and can it be assumed that the h400 missiles are the owner of a ballistic target

, just like those zhescanders ? actions on the russian side, that is, because in fact there were examples of the use of s -e 400 missiles over kiev. this range, by the way, is about 200 km, and the enemy can launch these h400 missiles from the bryansk region, and i wanted to clarify with you, mr. general, whether there is actually a a rocket up to s400 is a ballistic target, just like a rocket from a scanner, a football one can be classified as any projectile, shots are fired, for example, by public territories . that is, they are like throwing a ball at an angle of 45°, but ballistic missiles are their specialty

consists in the fact that they gain the maximum height somewhere on the target, then they attack the salt at an angle of 490°, that is, it is not vertical and the speed is very high, and they maneuver on the final section. by the way, iran - it is as if they announced now that have actually finished the development of a hypersonic missile, the speed of which will be more than that of the iskander and more than that of the dagger, because the dagger, as we remember, is also an iskander missile , only launched from an aircraft, and therefore the speed of this missile is added due to the speed of the aircraft and she is typing there up to 12 mafs, that is, the speed of sound and scandirovskaya is not hypersonic, there is no such possibility, but the rockets that they have now put new zircons on their first square

there in the north, uh, he must mean uh, the corresponding s- speed is more than 5 of all machs and the iranians they talk about the fact that they have a speed of up to 15 machs and it is an idealistic ballistic missile. around a thousand plus or minus , you need to find out where there are advertisements or commercials where they talk about the capabilities of their e-e rocket with such extraordinary e sound characteristics, hypersonic and by the way when the general staff or the petrine force immediately report the type of missiles the enemy is using to attack ukraine or our country, on the basis of which conclusions are drawn so quickly that all the missiles were ballistic, in particular there, and three were winged . look at the location. you yourself even gave a lot what is the answer to this, i.e.

if they shoot with kanders, then it is in the north-eastern direction and the trajectory of the location is exactly the iskander , and the iskanders were launched and used as bibilistic, we said a different trajectory speed or cruise missiles, iskander-m launchers can also launch cruise missiles, they may have a longer range, but there you can maneuver so-called star strike at the target, that is, launch several well, there are 5-10 cruise missiles that will simultaneously approach the object from different sides and to destroy them, it will be a great strain and it will be very difficult to work in such conditions if and this tracked intelligence rises strategic bombers from the north of russia among the roami

lead to the caspian and there it unfolds, we know what is the launch and then the launch of such rockets , which is 101 kha55 and so on, depending on which bombers the players take part and that 95 mms and then 160 and here 22m3 here 22m3 if venice rises, as a rule, they launch x 22nd and so on that is, if it is from the south, it is cruise missiles, the caliber we see from the territory deviates, our various intelligence and that of our allies shows that there were launches from the black sea area from missile ships from missile boats or from submarines, and therefore we are already preliminary then and then and when the escorts reveal all the objectives of the legal escort and the analysis of our anti-hail defense specialists on

the characteristics of the advancement of these objectives, where the objects are also identified and the action is distinguished, a separate topic is unmanned aerial vehicles, which are less fast, this is only a critical influence i really wanted to thank you for your inclusion, for your experience, for your professional comments, i would like to remind our viewers that espresso was thrown on the air by ihor romanenko, doctor of technical sciences, a retired engineer, and then we broadcast the broadcast of olga leni with her chronicles and of the information war olya congratulates you i congratulate sergey thank you well, we will literally see in a moment congratulations to all the events that unfolded in