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[000:00:00;00] where objects are also detected and distinguished, this separate topic is unmanned aerial vehicles, what are they, less speed changes, critically surfaced , uh, i really wanted to thank you for your inclusion, for your experience, for your professional comments, i will remind our viewers that on the air , as they said, espresso was ihor romanenko, doctor of technical sciences, retired general, and then we broadcast the broadcast of olga lyn with her chronicles of the information war. olya congratulates you . i congratulate sergey. thank you. in the semantic space of er russia er well, almost first of all, the attention is drawn to the fact that the war
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is practically already going on in the territory of the belgorod region and that there is something flying over moscow , well, that is, this is the idea that the russians are fighting only on foreign territory, but it is somehow i have already left my brain and in general this is now a new reality, so all this is of course hmm, somehow its propaganda should change the mood and population of russia and of course, the first such ones there for two weeks, well, this is not an indicator, but rather for the propaganda of russian - it's not that it's more like an indicator for us, well, it's a reason to strengthen it. today, i want to show you something that i haven't shown for a long time. that's how they really feel about it. what is victory for them , what is desirable for them at all? option of the end of the war. how do they think about all this? i ask you to remind me that not much
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has actually changed, this is such a spoiler, and the rest , well, try to understand how it is more. in the long run, it will change the mood of the population itself and some such depth of mood to tell about the result for russian propaganda and such first consequences, we can say that such a visible consequence is only one, uh, russian propaganda has stopped telling that ukraine is easy to win, that's what they all said at the beginning of the war. even what margarita simonyan tried to tell us already behind the bars ukraine was defeated and now we are at war with nato , forget all this now, this is absolutely not a fashionable opinion of russian propagandists, they are now telling us that no, in fact, ukrainians are terrible , ukrainians are very difficult to win and they are fighting they are from ukraine, no, they are not of course, but in fact
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they are fighting with ukrainians, and it is all very easy for them , this is a very motivated state. february of the previous year and now it is not going to be overthrown, well , they spoke a lot to the rebellious people, uh, wonderful words about the fairy tale, too, it is necessary to have tables , including back, especially since a lot changes in this state, which is not from hunger they won't do anything about it here, the infrastructure will crush them as much as possible, we will cover it today, it will be destroyed to the end, a gigantic country with a gigantic amount of capital structures that are not made like that, that's what's good from one drone cat, that they're better than us, that they're europeans , that's why it's sitting here
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beautiful, how many would i have stopped donbass , we would have restored it just like that with persuasion and small strikes with high-precision strikes. i would really like to starve to death. i would really like to destroy the entire infrastructure, but i can't. well, if someone tells you that there was no famine, yes , it really was. because they still think about it, well, that is, it is a normal story on russian tv, what is it ? well, it was possible. b to starve well, it doesn't work, god, what a pity, and we would really like to, of course, and yes, they are because they are probably better than us. well, let's cover them all with something very heavy, let's destroy them all.
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you understand, it's also not going anywhere. i want you to just remember this and not think that it's somewhere somewhere. it's nowhere and it hasn't disappeared, and it hasn't disappeared to anyone . the conversations about how to get there, somewhere, it 's unknown to what borders, have also disappeared. they also continue with their own accord, so that no one will attack us , not in moscow, not in pobryansk, not in shchebekov, the field of 3,000 dams is destructive. it's brothers no brothers, what is definitely understandable. here we are. and here are the nazis, and we have to go there. onward and only exit. on the border, poland, slovakia and romania will give us a strong victory because today you are the law of this conversation. well , since then, nothing will fly at us .
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it will be, yes, and there will be stories about the fact that everyone will be covered and ground in general. well, in general , it will have to be mixed with the ground . that in order to stop the attacks on belgorod, it is necessary to liberate kharkov, and in order to stop here, in principle, it is necessary to liberate kiev, i understood correctly , there are no other options. er, it is desirable to install it, but in general there should not be the kiev regime , in principle, as it stands now, and of course , er, he decided ukraine, er, any prospects, goes to the black sea, creates
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problems for us, and so on, that is, cut it off to reach transnistria with what you know well, of course there are options because as you understand there were no 3,000 destroyed houses there until 2014, well, that is, in principle, yes, uh , that is, go back to your borders and you will be happy, but you see, nothing changes the general trend does not even change, despite the fact that well , clearly even for such people, i would say that they are obstinate, that is the unrealistic expectation that ukraine can be made mad somewhere , we are discussing how this counterattack will be reflected when the enemy comes in complete groups on the territory of the border regions of the russian federation when the enemy is attacking russian cities and settlements, especially in the border areas, well, for today
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, it is premature to discuss the liquidation of ukrainian statehood and the future development of this territory, first of all, it is necessary to protect the rights of the inhabitants of russia about the protection of the rights of the inhabitants of russia the opinion is completely changing that their stories about the fact that their poor people are being forced to do something there. and this right now is taking the form of generally historical cries , we are forced to participate, but we are for peace and that is why we want to call on the residents of ukraine that they should understand that the responsibility for the theoretical strikes will not lie only with their leadership, but unfortunately will be distributed. as president putin said today, ordinary people should also think about it. to understand that they bear retribution in some world for political support, this is the fascist
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viper that built its nest in kiev and in other mountains of ukraine. it must be crushed and will be crushed if you suddenly open, for example, or take somewhere include some chronicle of some goebbels there or hitler, you will hear approximately the same thing somewhere at the moment when they were going to attack the neighbors, so it is absolutely understandable such a well-known rhetoric to say that it is you now and this is the answer to what is happening is happening last sometimes they have some failures at the front, but no, it's not like that, you know, they had a conversation back in march, and there are more distant memories, which are also well worth remembering that they were and just remember that these were the conversations , let's watch them because they are interesting surnames are mentioned uh, well, about which i will tell later, let's just divide ukraine
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with the poles . that's how it should end, i had an episode, and then there was a map of ukraine. zhirynovsky 's fault, the announcer was in the middle, uh, i, they came to the screen, they began to divide this uh, ukraine . it's very interesting. the 15th year, they agreed that ukraine is not will remain in the form in which it will have to be divided, and here they were drawing based on their own ideas, how will it be correctly divided in what division further, and you think that there will be some other option and that what i completely i am absolutely 100% sure that
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it is not poland, not hungary, not romania , official, there is no part of the territory of ukraine. they did not use this word. what uh the germans there have a certain background there, they managed to give some kind of prize there for democracy for something there that he suffered from the regime. well, you see, a person there drew for himself how ukraine should be divided , and there something is given simply about how uh , you know, you just have to remember a little history, although b there more than there an aquarium fish remembers her eh well the second thing is of course beautiful this story when the russians they just know it is their inner conviction but when they commit some kind of crime then everyone would like to commit similar crimes and just well they don't want to do it officially, but unofficially they also want it, it's such an inner conviction that it hasn't happened anywhere, it exists and it will exist until they get it so much on their heads that they understand that it's just dangerous to be
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criminals, you understand, well, this is the criminal psychology of a criminal continues to be as long as he is not stopped , he is not, he cannot be re-educated, you know the moment well, he is not, well , he does not give up criminal actions, well, that is , this is the story, well, actually, about the criminal actions themselves, again, to everyone who wants to now to talk about some agreements there, about how it is possible to agree on something in some of these, it is also worth listening to how the agreements are perceived and why the russians considered one agreement bad and others good hmm , depending on what the consequences of these agreements will be for them, this is also interesting here such revelations similar er act has another goal of forcing the enemy to negotiate on our terms look at what happened yesterday er
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in parallel with today's terrorist attacks european nato countries have already talked about in order to give a kind of political guarantee and security of ukraine for the post-war state of entry into the european union in exchange for capitulation , so the anti-russian plan means anti-ukrainian. and in the course of 3-4 years to spy on ukraine with the same number of weapons, for example, with rockets , attack units to place them in sumy, kharkiv and poltava regions, very close to the borders of russia, who will we be able to do in a few years
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will resume its security, considering that their security guarantees will be extended to ukraine. and tell me why peace-loving nations suddenly resume theirs after a few years , well, it's to the point that you can freeze something there . no, you can't . donetsk oblast eh and it’s better in general there but clearly there is there rostovska there is there then it will be effective somehow and if you place them somewhere earlier it will be very ineffective because all thoughts are only about how to restore something else after which freezes well, in the end, the last one is their own vision of victory. they also discuss it, what kind of victory did they see? well, it is also important to understand that the vision of victory in russian propaganda has not changed with military or non-proliferation operations or war
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by diplomatic means reaching the borders of nato . ukraine is not on the political map. the second point , as a result of this middle-aged america , is thrown from eurasia, we are together with china in india , the other leading countries of the metro continent , i arrange gardens according to the rules, victory is the destruction of the ukrainian state is not the people , not the territory , there is the infrastructure, namely the state elite, the army and the enemy apparatus . you must stop feeling an existential threat to our state. i have a terrialistic view and it's not very realistic . tanechka nashenkov will come out. i don't know if someone else will say and roar, we won like this
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будет выбадывать победы от реалистический взглад eh well, actually , this is about the inner vision and how to end the war and in general everything and whether the mood is changing or not. the last remark about the fact that kanashenko will come out and say, well, this really is a realistic view, moreover, this indicates that with all this, well, in the general pathos of russian propaganda, there is some kind of gap, you know, some kind of gap begins. it seems to me that they still see what they promote officially and what is some kind of reaction of the deep-rooted people, is it just me or do you see it too? i completely agree with you because the schizophrenia of russian propaganda is actually obvious almost from the very beginning. about the fraternal peoples who went to conquer, but at the same time it must be said that russian propaganda is a very
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weak copy of hitler's propaganda , but eh, regarding the victory, i want to offer you a little eh how strange it is to return to the tatar-montol yoke but something will become clear about how russians perceive life a-a at the beginning of the so-called mongolian saga e with the purpose of calling it so and on the territory of ukraine there were already many developed states of princes on the territory of russia there was still a proto-project of the creation of states a-a they were these were small cities made of wood, they were easily conquered, whereas, say, kyivan rus was based and had its origins in the european byzantine civilization, and the difference is not that there moscow is of lesser importance, such are
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the external formal signs, the most important feature the ukrainian state was formed on european principles. now let's see on what principles the muscovite state, which later called itself russian, was formed . at the beginning of the mongol saga, the winner in the struggle was a prince who was a traitor, and then all the dividends of this victory were taken by his son alexander nevsky, and it was he and the other princes applauded the relations with their mongolian masters as treason themselves , that is, the russian prince had to kill other princes and also repeat his people so that the people would pay
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for well the mongols and this is embedded in the dna and moscow statehood, if the dna of statehood is the same in ukraine as, say, in paris , then was it formed or was it gradually formed in germany, and the russian dna is completely different , it is asian. and hence the complete lack of understanding of europe, hence the complete feeling that everyone should want to seize other lands everyone should want to cheat and get out at the expense of immoral acts, because in order to be successful in muscovite, it was necessary to be even moral, it was dangerous to be because if you are
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moral, then you are food at best loser, otherwise you're dead and look from here it's very easy now to look at what they're saying they completely don't understand what a normal, civilized world order is well, it's interesting that you mentioned alexander nevsky at all, i'll tell you what, uh, actually hmm, russian propaganda has now pulled this case and it was brought out very vividly by nikita mikhalkov in his last broadcasts there, he literally said that nevsky oleksandr nevsky chose the border with catholic christianity and the tribute of the hordes. he chose the tribute of the hordes and this was a strategically successful decision, i.e., this opposition of oneself in principle to europe became for them well, i would say to such centrists in general about the english narrative and, er , another such centrist er, which they constantly pull out a case, they tell that once there,
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the poles captured moscow, and again, they always tried something there, and it was also when the west tried to seize ours, but i have a little you know, i have a little different question because when they pull out the case, well, at least this one, er, mini-na and pozharsky here etogo, you know, or there is the war of 1812, uh, they like to drag it out against napoleon, uh, they actually see it there , especially as far as napoleon is concerned, well, this is essentially napoleon, this is the collapse of such an imperial attempt to build a very large empire, and russia was there. well, to a certain extent, too attacker because russia provoked napoleon to attack for a very long time and fought on the territory of europe until napoleon got tired of it. he didn't like to fight and here
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the british also began to beat him in style. well, in short, everyone i bought it together as a result, they got fed up after he entered the war against russia, to put it mildly, not very well prepared , well, it’s like that. to tell about the fact that if you start fighting on russian territory, then the great russian people will become like that and give an answer. there is a case i'm getting up, because i don't see him point blank, i still see cries for the fact that there is little ruble money, at least in the networks, which is very good, this is probably about time, i see a beauty who is trying to actively exploit
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, in general, such an anti-ilist, you know. shouts to shebekin about the fact that we, too, are russian land, why did she throw it away? this is very strongly manifested precisely by this division , which demonstrates the primitive level of development of the state of russia. people do not feel that they are part of one nation, and it is extremely interesting that even and the central channels brought out this narrative that people are gloating about the bombings of the ruble a and this is a manifestation of these deep internal divisions there, everyone is against everyone and there is no, strangely enough, this is enough. i do not think that the russian state
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will collapse so easily, but it is segmented and uh, neighboring regions, in fact, the only opinion is that it is good that it is in belgorod and not in me , and becoming will not happen, there will be fear and a desire to run away from this somewhere, and when uh, pay attention that the most active on television is governor bergerjil the people of belgorod because they had an attack, all the other governors are sitting and thinking, god , don't let them attack me, let's surrender that belgorod to them. they didn’t touch and this is the most important thing divided segmentation defenselessness and unpreparedness in general uh i wouldn’t call this helplessness
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learned i would call this helplessness good q but it is primarily voluntary helplessness without this nation i believe that they there will be more gnawing meaning more gnawing than manifesting than consolidating ukrainian society instantly that is liquidated who is at the time of the attack at the time of some attacks on the territory of russia segmentation e psychological segmentation will take place from e-e at the level of i nobody needs this at the level of an individual person this the level of a separate district center is at the level of the oblast and so on. but again, i will say and emphasize that i do not think that this will lead to the destruction of the state. well, i also do not think that it is automatic will lead to some sort of reining, moreover, i think that this, well, if, well, it would lead to the tightening of the nuts, which, you know, will simply
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strengthen each other, such a paranoia inside, but here is the question, and what should we do with this further, to strengthen it this state of russian such well, internal paranoia is wonderful. great, thank you for asking, because i know that the viewers of espresso are very advanced intellectuals, they are uh, all of us are uh, helping in every possible way, i will now uh, tell you one simple effective way, this is uh, go to site e-e cyber police e-e subscribe to their telegram channel which e-e is good e-e russia and e-e try to perform very simple tasks for you for that you do not need to be promoted to cyber ​​there e-e in m-m
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let's just say that kinder is a great uh specialist for that it is enough to have a phone uh and even a blonde like me can perform those simple tasks sitting under fire there is nothing to do to bring the mood to russia here is a way for you to meet russia but there are other options a- and each of us has acquaintances there somewhere, i want to emphasize that there is a small percentage of people who are really ashamed of what is happening in ukraine, and such a small percentage of people who have connections there in russia should write that we will not bombard the civilian population. side eh so that they communicate with bombastic words and wait until we will win, but there are two more categories of people, this category is somewhat categorically against
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ukraine and they should be treated as ours trolled ani lorak. that is, you can write eh a message like "thank you for the coordinates, it's so great, our drone almost flew in. next time, i'll definitely pay. hello, bohdanova, this is a category and a category of people who think that it's not our fault, that it's not our fault, so that it doesn't happen to us, we can live so well and all of us." category eh should always be kept in communication as much as possible and eh try to talk with them, we don't need to understand them, we don't need to convince them of something, but you need to keep it, you know i thought and
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who would if i were a child for reasons was ah i was a russian positivist on the territory of russia, so that i would not be executed there, i would portray a crazy woman there, i would call the local police and say a-a i see a drone flying and if you overload it, it will create such a nervous state in a-a eh the emotions of the local policemen will also go off the scale. it's a trifle, a trifle. and you won't be punished for it, but the russians don't have such a sense of freedom . they actually lack reporting and the ability to do at least something that is creative, while the ukrainians are capable of any kind of reaction. hacking of ukrainian, er, russian networks to record songs there, etc., yes, i agree with you that there is probably not much to hope for, do you know, er, conscience or something else, moreover, there was such a survey that
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showed that what well, the vast majority of russians do not feel ashamed for what happened, so here are only uh, well, such methods that, well, undermine the possibility of the russian system, undermining them in general, everything they do there and undermine russian statehood itself. thank you, it was elina slobodeniuk candidate of historical sciences, political technologist, you and i will meet next week, but we will already meet in the evening, my program will be released at 5:10 p.m., so we will see each other and watch , now tonight there is a war going on, and not only for the territories, it is also a war for the umy, russia is throwing millions of oil dollars at to turn ukrainians into little russians ukraine will become russia analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists specific facts and

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