[000:00:00;00] efficiency around specific goals and functionality in their implementation, this is european integration, euro-atlantic integration, unfortunately, we have to end today's broadcast with us were anatoliy boyko , the committee of voters of ukraine, odesa and oleg synyutka, people's deputy of ukraine. with you until monday, a long weekend. congratulations to all the events that unfolded in the informational and semantic space of russia it is already happening in the territory of the belgorod region and the fact that there is something flying over moscow , well, that is, this idea that the russians fight only on foreign territory, well, it has somehow already left the brains, and in general, it is already a new

reality, so all this, of course, should somehow change the mood and the population of russia and its propaganda. and of course, there are the first ones there for two weeks. well, this is not an indicator . it's more for russian propaganda. it's not something that is an indicator for us . i just want it for you show what i haven't shown for a long time, how do they really still feel about it? what is victory for them, what is the preferred option for the end of the war ? how do they think about all this? this is a spoiler and the rest, well, try to understand how it is more. in the long term, it will change the mood of the population itself and some such depth of mood , so if we talk about the result for

russian propaganda and such the first consequences, then we can say that such visible the only consequence is that russian propaganda has stopped telling that it is easy to defeat ukraine, that is what they all said at the beginning of the war. even what margarita simonyan tried to tell us already behind the bars , we defeated ukraine. this is absolutely the opinion of russian propagandists, they are now telling that no, in fact, ukrainians are terrible , and it is very difficult to defeat ukrainians, and they are fighting because they are from ukraine. a very motivated state, it is not necessary to think that the population there will now go to the world, there is no zelensky, and it was not overthrown before him, and before the beginning of these days, it was set in february of last

year, and now it is not going to be overthrown. the tables , including back, especially since a lot changes in this state, which will not return here because of hunger, they will not do anything about the infrastructure of the destroyed ones, as much as possible , we will cover this day until the end a gigantic country with a gigantic number of capital structures made in the wrong way, that's what's good about one drone cat, unsure that they're better than us, that they're europeans, it's sitting on the sidelines, that's nothing , no matter how much we stop the donbass, we installed it just like that uh, with persuasion and small blows, uh, high-precision, you won't break it only with military strategic strikes, well

, that's clear . yes, i would very much like to starve to death. someone will tell the story of the holodomor, there was no famine. yes, it actually was. because they still think about it, well, that is, it is a normal story on russian tv, what is it ? well, it would be possible to starve it out. well, it doesn’t work, god, what a pity, and we would really like to, of course, well, and yes, they are because of what they are. they are probably better than us. well, let's cover them all with something very heavy, let's destroy them all . so, this is a general opinion, uh, which, as you understand , is also not going anywhere. i want you to just remember this and not think that there somehow it's somewhere, nowhere, no, it hasn't disappeared, and no one has heard of it, the conversations about how to get there, somewhere, it's unknown to what borders, they also

continue on their own, so that no one will run after us, not in moscow, not in pobryansk, not in shchebekov field 3,000 dams of destruction. we need to be patient. after that, it's normal to enter. only an attack is a time to win. at least without discrimination. go . don't worry , we'll have enough. to go forward and only exit on the border poland with slovakia and romania will give us a strong victory because this is the law and this is the conversation, well, from then on , nothing will fly at us when he says well, when will it happen, yes it will happen well, there are the same stories about that that everything is covered and ground in general. well, in general , it will have to be mixed with the ground. it will have to be moved to the ground. nothing is left for me to be friends with, and it is impossible. here is the connection. she will not agree with the governor , the noble smooth woman, who said the day before

that in order to stop the strikes on belgorod must be liberated from kharkov, and in order to stop here, in principle, kiev must be liberated. i understood correctly about them , there are no options. and first of all, he destroyed this one that lived with all its carriers. in general, there should not be a kyiv regime in the police force as it stands now, and of course he decided that ukraine is going to the black sea, create problems for us , and so on, that is, cut it off, reach transnistria, and you know. there are options because, as you understand, there were no 3,000 destroyed houses there until uh, 2014, well, that is, in principle, yes, uh , that is, go back to your borders and

you will be happy, but you see, the general trend does not change, and it does not even change despite the fact that well, it's clear that even for such people, i would say stubborn , er, the unrealistic expectations that ukraine can be made mad somewhere , pokarak is preparing a counteroffensive. the enemy enters the territory of border regions of the russian federation in complete groups when the enemy attacks russian cities and settlements, especially in the border areas, well, for today , it is premature to discuss the liquidation of the ukrainian state and in the future about the arrangement of this territory, first of all it is necessary to protect the rights of the inhabitants of russia the protection of the rights of the inhabitants of russia does not change at all, the opinion that their stories about the fact that their

poor people are forced to do something there, and this right now takes the form of generally historical cries we are forced to do so at this time, but we are for peace, and therefore we would like to call on the residents of ukraine to understand that the responsibility for the theoretical strikes will not only fall on their leadership, but will unfortunately be distributed. as president putin said today, they must think. and ordinary people, too, and people in ukraine must and understand that they bear the retribution to some extent for political support, this is the fascist viper that built its nest in kiev and in other mountains of ukraine. it must be crushed and will be crushed if you you will suddenly open, for example, or there you will take somewhere, turn on some chronicle of some goebbels there or hitler

, you will hear approximately the same thing somewhere at the moment when they were going to attack the neighbors, so it is absolutely understandable such and well-known rhetoric to say that it is a response to the fact that has been happening lately, there are some failures on their front, but no, it's not like that, you know, there are such people, you know, they had a conversation back in march, and there are more distant memories that are also not worth remembering that they were and just remember remember that these were the conversations, let's have them let's see, because there are interesting names mentioned there, well, about which i will tell later, let's just divide ukraine with the poles , divide with the ukrainian regime, marione, that 's what a loose hare with whom it will be , that's their problem, we'll take away what's ours, what we're claiming что просмотров наши безопасность this is how it should end. i had an episode, which means there was a map of ukraine. zhirynovsky venediktov flew

out, so they came to the screen to see that they began to divide this , er, ukraine. it's very interesting. in the 15th hour, they agreed that ukraine would not remain. in that in the form in which it is, it will have to be divided, and here they were drawing based on their own, what is there, it is presented how to divide it properly, and how are we divided? i am absolutely 100% sure that not poland, hungary, or romania officially use any part of the territory of ukraine. this word is not officially used. the germans there is a certain background there, they managed to give some kind of prize there for democracy for something

there that he suffered from the regime . you see, a person there imagined how ukraine should be divided, and there something is given simply about how uh, you know , you just have to remember a little bit of history at least there, more than there, an aquarium fish remembers her, uh, well, the second thing is of course beautiful . this story, when the russians, they just know it's their inner convictions when they commit some kind of crime, then everyone would like to commit such crimes and simply well, they don't it to do officially, but unofficially, they also want it, this is such an internal conviction that it has not gone anywhere , it exists and it will exist until they get it in their head so much that they understand that it is simply dangerous to be criminals, you understand, well, this is such a criminal psychology, a criminal continues to be a criminal as long as they don't stop him, he doesn't, he can't be re-educated, you know the moment, well, he doesn't, well, he doesn't give up on criminal actions, well

, that is, the story is, well, actually about the criminal actions themselves, again, to everyone who wants to now to talk about some agreements there, about how it is possible to agree on something in some other place, it is also worth listening to how the agreements are perceived and why the russians considered some agreements bad, others good , depending on what the consequences of these agreements will be for them, here are also interesting the revelation of such an act has another purpose, if the enemy is forced to negotiate on our terms, look at what happened yesterday , in parallel with today's terrorist attacks, and the european nato countries have already spoken about it to let me go to the political guarantee and security of ukraine for the post-martial state of entry into the european union in

exchange for capitulation, so the anti-russian plan means anti-ukrainian . front situation and within 3-4 years to spy on ukraine with a number of weapons, for example, with attack missiles , to place them in the sumy kharkiv or poltava regions very close to the borders of russia, will we be able to in a few years will resume its security, considering that their security guarantees will be extended to ukraine. and tell me why peace-loving nations suddenly restore theirs after a few years , well, it's to the point that you can freeze something there . no, you can't

. donetsk oblast eh and it’s better in general there but clearly there is there rostovska there is there then it will be effective somehow and if you place them somewhere earlier it will be very ineffective because all thoughts are only about how to restore something else after which freezes well, in the end, the last one is their own vision of victory. they also discuss it, what kind of victory did they see ? well , here it is also important to understand that the vision of victory in russian propaganda has not changed. point two , as a result of this middle-class america , we are thrown out of eurasia, we are together with china, india , the other leading countries of the metro continent , the sleigh sets the rules, victory is

the destruction of the ukrainian state, not people not the territory , there is the infrastructure, namely the state, the elite, the army , and the causal apparatus. a storm for our state. i have a realistic view and it's not very realistic. tanechka nashenkov . i don't know if someone else will say that we won. this is how it will look . victory is a realistic view. actually about this inner vision and how to end the war and everything in general and moods whether they are changing or not i want to talk to elina slobodianyuk - this is a candidate of historical sciences, a political technologist elina greetings er, this is the last remark about what kanashenko will say and say, well, this

this is indeed a realistic view, moreover, this indicates that despite all this, well, in the general pathos of russian propaganda, there is some kind of gap , you know , some kind of gap is beginning. by some such reaction of the deep-seated people, does it seem so to me or do you also see it? i completely agree with you because the schizophrenia of russian propaganda is actually obvious almost from the very beginning. a very weak cap psplay from hitler's propaganda but eh about

the victory i want to offer you a little a-and at the beginning of the so-called mongolian yoke, for the purpose of calling it that, and on the territory of ukraine there were already many developed states of princes, on the territory of russia, there was still a proto-project of the creation of states a-and they were small, there were also wooden cities they were easily conquered, whereas , say, kievan rus was based and had its origins in the european byzantine civilization, and the difference is not that there moscow is of lesser importance, such are the external formal signs, the most important feature, the ukrainian state was formed on european principles and now let's see on what principles the muscovite state, which later called

itself russian, was formed. at the beginning of the mongol saga, the winner in the struggle was a prince who was a traitor, and then all the dividends of this victory were taken by his son alexander nevsky, and it was he and other princes applauded the relations with their mongol masters, they were treasonous , that is, the russian prince had to kill other princes and also repeat his people so that the people would pay us well, the mongols and this is embedded in the dna moscow statehood, if the dna of statehood is the same in ukraine as, say, in paris , then was it formed or was it gradually

formed in germany, then the russian dna is completely different, it is asian. and hence the complete lack of understanding of europe, hence the complete feeling that everyone should want to seize other lands, everyone should want to cheat, to get out at the expense of immoral acts, because in order to be successful in muscovite, you had to be even moral, it was dangerous to be because if you are moral, then you are in the mountains, in the best case, you loser, otherwise you're dead and look from here it's very easy now to look at what they're saying they don't understand what normal civilized witness order is well, it's interesting

that you mentioned oleksandr olevsky at all. pulled out this case and it was pulled out very vividly by nikita mikhalkov in his last broadcasts there, he literally said that nevsky alexander nevsky chose between catholic christianity and tribute to the hordes he chose tribute to the hordes and that was a strategically successful decision, i.e. this opposition of oneself in principle to europe for them, it became such a central propaganda narrative in general, and uh , another such central uh, which they constantly pull out a case, they tell that once upon a time , the poles captured moscow and again well, they always tried to do something there, and it was also when the west tried to capture ours , but i have a little bit

. etogo, you know, or there is the war of 1812, uh, they like to drag it out against napoleon, uh, they actually see it there , especially as far as napoleon is concerned, well, this is essentially napoleon, this is the collapse of such an imperial attempt to build a very large empire, and russia was there. well, to a certain extent, too attacker because russia provoked napoleon to attack for a very long time and fought on the territory of europe until napoleon got tired of it. he didn't like to fight and here the british also began to beat him in style. well, in short, everyone i buy it together, as a result, they got fed up after he entered the war against russia

, to put it mildly, not very well prepared, well , that’s how it is. what if we start fighting on russian territory, the great russian people will stand up and give an answer, we are now looking at the case that is happening in the territory of the belarusian region over the flights of drones over moscow, and we , how should i say, do you see a case there i'm getting up, because i don't see him point blank, i still see cries because they had a ruble, at least in the networks, which is very good, this is probably about time, i see a beautiful woman who is trying to actively exploit , in general, you know such an antilist well, check and i see ye shouts to shabeikin about the fact that we are also russian land, what did she throw away? yes, this is very strongly manifested precisely by this separation

, the primitive level of statehood development is demonstrated, people do not feel that they are part of one nation, and it is extremely interesting that even and the central channels carried this narrative that people are gloating about the bombings of the ruble. and this is a manifestation of these deep internal divisions where everyone is against everyone and there is no, strangely enough, this is enough. i do not think that the russian state will collapse so easily, but it is extremely segmented, and er, neighboring regions, in fact, the only opinion is that it’s good that it’s in belgorod and not in me , and there will be no uprising, there will be fear and

a desire to run away from it somewhere, and when er, pay attention that the most active on television is governor bergerjil the people of belgorod because they had an attack on them, all the other governors are sitting and thinking, lord, if they don't attack me, let's surrender that belgorod to them. we don't need it, let them bomb the ruble or the yuan , whatever it will be called in their country. the main thing is that we they did not touch, and this is the most important thing, divided, segmented, defenseless, and unpreparedness in general, er, i would not call this learned helplessness, i would call this helplessness good q, but this is primarily the voluntary

helplessness of this nation. i believe that they there will be more gnawing meaning more gnawing than manifesting than consolidating ukrainian society instantly that is liquidated who is at the time of the attack at the time of some attacks on the territory of russia segmentation e psychological segmentation will from e-e take place at the level of i nobody needs this at the level of an individual person this the level of a separate district center is at the level of the oblast and so on. but again, i will say with emphasis. i do not think that this will lead to the destruction of the state. well, i also do not think that it is automatic will lead to some kind of reining, moreover, i think that it is, well, if it is, it will lead to the tightening of the nuts, which, you know, will simply strengthen each other, such a paranoia inside, but here is the question, and what should we do with

this further, to strengthen it this state of russian such well internal paranoia is wonderful great thank you for asking because i know that espresso viewers are very advanced intellectual they all we er help in possible ways i will now er tell you one simple effective way is er go to the site er- e cyber police e-e subscribe to their v telegram channel, which is good, russia, and trying to perform very simple tasks for you, for that, you don’t need to be promoted to there, to m. let’s say yes, kinder is a great specialist for that, it is enough to have a phone and even a blonde like me will be able to perform those simple tasks

. we are sitting under fire and there is nothing to do. take the mood to russia. here is a way for you to meet russia, but there are other options. emphasize that there is a small percentage of people who really eat it is a shame for what is happening in ukraine and such a small bag of people that you have connections there in russia, it should be written that we will not pump the civilian population . they communicated and waited for a long time, we will win, but there are two more categories of people, this category is a bit categorically against ukraine and they should be treated the way ours trolled ani lorak. that is, you can write e-e messages

like thank you for the coordinates, so wonderful, almost our drone has almost arrived. next time, it will definitely pay. hello, bohdanova, this category and the category of people who think that it is not our fault that it is not our fault that this should not happen, it is us, we have already lived so well, and all of this category should be constantly opportunities to maintain communication and try to talk with them, we don't need to understand them, we don't need to convince them of something, but you have to keep it, you know i'll keep thinking . who would i be if i was a russian position girl for reasons territory in russia, i would do it so that i would not be executed there, i would portray a crazy woman there, i would call the local police and say , ah, i see a drone flying, and if you overload

it, it will create such a nervous state in the local policemen, too, emotions will go off the scale. this trifle trifle and you won't be punished for that, but the russians don't have so much a sense of freedom in them, and actually reporting and the ability to do at least something that they lack for such creativity, while the ukrainians have enough of any reagent for hacking russian networks on the record in the center is so different, yes, i agree with you that you probably shouldn’t hope especially for some kind of conscience, you know, or something else, moreover, there was such a survey that showed that the leaders of what ah, well, the vast majority of russians do not feel ashamed for that what happened here, just such methods that undermine the possibility of the russian system , undermining them in general, everything they do there

and undermine russian statehood itself. thank you, it was elina slobodenyuk, candidate of historical sciences, political technologist. next week, but we will meet in the evening, my program will be released at 5:10 p.m., so let's see each other and watch now tonight, the war is going on and not only for territories, it is also a war for the umy, russia is throwing millions of petrodollars to turn ukrainians into little russians, ukraine will become russia's showdown and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists, specific facts and methods by which enemy propaganda turns people into obedient zombies, the association plans to vote residents of the people's republic of china against russian information attacks in the chronicle project information war with olga len since june 5