[000:00:00;00] their questions through their channels well, now they are weaving that he was doing something important for the front, he is trying to cover up everything with the front, you are not worthy of this, you do not need to do this, although to whom i say thank you for being with us. from the ukrainian editorial office of bbcds good evening we are from ukraine good evening broadcast from ukraine live and from london i'm yevgenia shidlovska and today in the program a week of strikes on the capital russian military is changing tactics attacks protests of ukrainians and south africa is determined whether to arrest putin. if he comes to them at the bricks and dear life summit, we will show how volunteers helped the residents

of the front-line avdiyivka on the night of june 2. russia hit kiev again, this time with cruise missiles with martyrs, the general staff reports that the air defense shot down all 15 missiles 21 according to the authorities, a drone in the kyiv region injured two people, an elderly man and a teenage girl due to debris, damaged several private houses, shelling of the capital continues sixth day and the authorities note that russia uses new tactics every time, what is happening in kyiv will be told by bbc correspondent james water house of you, a colleague shot footage of air defense operations last night, it resembled some strange fireworks when the sky occasionally flashed bright orange from shells and quotes, the atmosphere in which people are forced to sleep already for one night first the siren of the air alarm and

then the sound of explosions it was a restless night again for many people forced to go to bomb shelters pablo the day before three people died because the shelter was in the castle this became the reason for angry criticism of mayor klitschko by president zelensky, they are not political allies , they belong to different camps and have different views. zelensky said that besides russia , ukraine also has internal enemies. and vitaliy klitschko already answered him today. in short, that's how i answer for the situation in the city, but it is the president who appointed the heads of military administrations whose duties include the storage, in fact, he said yes, i am responsible, but it is not my fault

, the political consequences of this tragedy in which three people were killed, in particular a mother and her nine-year-old daughter who tried to get into shelter, meanwhile, it seems that russia does not stop its plans to bomb cities, the danger is that people will get used to sirens and, as we can see, from time to time, civilians can become victims of such attacks on border with ukraine, representatives of two groups of the russian volunteer corps and the legion of freedom of russia claim that they are fighting there , the russian authorities announce the evacuation of the city of shebekino and declare that as a result of the shelling, two people were killed there, two were wounded , the russian ministry of defense announced at the same time the day before that what they say prevented the attack and, as they say, the breakthrough of the sabotage groups, there was no such statement. that ukraine can count on a powerful package

of political and practical assistance at the nato summit that will take place in early july in vilnius and another of his statements he called the russian invasion of ukraine colossal a strategic failure that will weaken russia for many years and has already strengthened the eu and nato damn came to finland, which recently joined the alliance, and listen to what he said about ukraine in nato will be the business of ukraine and the members of the alliance, not russia, the path to peace will be not only through a long-term military to the strength of ukraine, but also because of the strength of its economy and democracy, this is the basis of our vision for the future. ukraine should not only be whole, but also prosperous, someone can say that if the united states really wanted peace, it would stop supporting ukraine, and if ukraine wanted to end this war, it would consider itself lost and give up 1/5 of its territory illegally occupied

by russia. let's imagine for a moment that one of russia's neighbors felt confident in the inviolability of their own sovereignty and territorial integrity if putin's aggression was rewarded with one fifth the territory of ukraine in south africa is preparing to receive the leaders of the brics countries, this is an association that includes brazil, russia, india , china, and the park itself is scheduled for august and the key question is, if putin comes there, will he be extradited to the international criminal court because there is a warrant for his arrest ? of foreign affairs of the brics countries, who are preparing this very details, will be told by bbc correspondent andrew harding in the southern tip of africa, russia is desperately trying

to recruit allies minister of foreign affairs sergey lavrov joined his colleagues from china, india, brazil, and other countries. this is an alliance that seeks to challenge the west on many economic issues, including in ukraine. near the venue of the meeting, a group of ukrainians protest against russia's invasion of their country, we demand that minister lavrov immediately stop the unjust, unprovoked war, stop killing our children officials are watching this from the balcony for russia , the meaning of all this is to show that it is not isolated, so the west may have united against it through ukraine, but

huge countries such as india, china still support moscow, and a large part of africa is trying to take a wait-and-see position officially south africa maintains neutrality towards ukraine, but not far from the venue of the meeting is a naval base from where, according to the us , weapons were recently sent to russia and this was allegedly recorded by an amateur african video officials assure that this is not true, but now they have an even bigger headache. vladimir putin is to come here in august for the summit, a warrant for which was finally issued by the international criminal court, if putin comes here, that will give him another propaganda move, they say, i am not alone, but the west is helpless to ban i can go where i want ministers if president putin comes here in august will you

arrest him yes or no africa is currently studying what are the different legal options but for many it sounds a bit vague answer it is clearly your duty to arrest him, you are obliged to understand but the answer is not a vague answer is that the final position of south africa will be determined by the president , however, in private conversations, government officials hope to find a way to avoid putin's visit and protect south africa from the west's negative reaction in ukraine to front line, one of the old hot spots is avdiyivka in donetsk region, the russians destroyed the city with continuous strikes, but despite the danger, local residents remain there, and bbc correspondents talked to volunteers risking their own lives to bring food to people this dimension of russia's war against ukraine bbc showed the world audience on the eastern ukrainian front

the besieged city of avdiyivka underground bomb shelter residents turn on the tv to hear the news at this time what is the situation in avdiyivka the army does not stop trying to read avdiyivka ukrainian fighters trying to hold their positions until the start of the counterattack these two men help the locals survive by delivering their goods with help every day, now we're going on the road, which is the only artery communication, if there is something there, god forbid, which of those will turn out, then it will be cut off and we do everything for the sake of victory, someone there delivers

bread, someone carries something, in principle, we oppose igor and oleksii having breakfast 20 minutes away from avdiyivka, artillery strikes are a reminder of what awaits them ahead friendship is what supports us during these difficult periods, because igor is very positive and always jokes even in difficult situations, and this helps us believe that we will survive until maneuvering between russian shells on the road to avdiyivka is difficult, and it is even more difficult to do it in

the old van, which breaks down almost every day, and oleksiy is the last link in the long chain of international aid that stretches all the way to western europe. humanitarian cargo is transported across ukraine and then stored in this warehouse under an audio booth. behind them, the final stage is to take the last step to deliver the important cargo to where it is needed. most but not always everything goes according to plan at any moment here a random projectile may fly this is definitely not the place where i would like to be stuck this is the last stretch every day under fire therefore the most

dangerous, but once in the city, the first task is to manage to distribute aid before the next shelling and remain human. oleg sadun, a policeman from western ukraine , almost a thousand kilometers from here, he was assigned to help people in this front-line place. to leave or not, and i want people to be safer in the city, the russians bomb indiscriminately, anything can happen to the target, this was the first grade, where they studied there for three years, elementary grades here

oleksandr dmytrivna was the first teacher. my parents lived here and hope to return there as soon as possible, and if people like igor's parents left, others remained in the basements of the blockaded city , among them olena and ludmila. there is no water, no rain, no light, there is nothing there in foreign cities, we will also be homeless, we are also homeless here, at least we threw a homeless woman at home, we left the pigeons, we have to feed them today, as

for the soul, it is more fun, after all, i was at the dacha the muffler exploded and the hand was torn off, the day is coming to an end, the cargo has been delivered, so it's time for igor and oleksiy to get out of here, we need a disturbing dream , something else is there, there is something there, avdeevka is in some kind of occupation in the ring there , or there is an invasion there, you are already waking up, and everything is good, what about that

we're finishing the issue next time i'll see you on monday congratulations friends mykola veresen vitaly portnikov good health to everyone well let's start as usual we start with the war and then we'll talk about diplomacy international relations and so on and the like serhiy hrab military expert, member of the creative fighters, colonel of the reserve, we are in touch, we already congratulate mr. serhiy, we and congratulations well, today is already the 17th attack on the ukrainian capital in may, today is 17th , yes, in may, today is already the first attack, the second is

june and june is already yes already gone the heat has gone well, mr. sergey, what does this mean , a new cargo morning has just arrived, it means that there is no trouble in the russian army in the donbass what am i, why is there such an intensity, such an invigoration, let’s say in the bombings and something we are waiting, but now it will be. i hope the boy doesn't hear it, so please hear it. so why are these options? it's important that we hear you. if we can't now, our colleagues will redial now, and we won't talk about emblems while we sit here. and what do you think, why are they like that?

they suddenly decided. i don't think it's sudden. i think it's routine. that is, we can't deal with it in any way, but this is the routine of war. by the way, you tell me about this all the time, that russian troops can be pushed out of the country, nothing will change. so so so they will be if there is no political the solution is to continue this shelling. moreover, it is not very expensive if the drone is austria, so the rocket is also collected . well, of course, it is not the intensity that was in the first months of the war, but this does not make it easier for people, those people who die from the missiles themselves without pilots or debris from the missiles which brings down the air on the defense so serhii slave military expert participant in peacekeeping positions reserve colonel we hope we will continue to talk from your point of view mr. serhii why is this way the situation over ukraine with shelling, why did they decide to bomb it? it's just that they had opportunities there and delivered wounds

, or did they accumulate and start their rockets ? in this way, to stop the preparation for offensive operations of the armed forces of ukraine and strike at the maximum depth of the territory of ukraine, especially the intensity is observed. by the way, not in kyiv, but in kharkiv, and in donetsk zaporizhia and kherson oblasts and dnipropetrovsk oblasts in particular, the second is that the enemy is trying to exhaust the air defense system where it has the highest level of security and efficiency, i.e. in kyiv , in the kyiv oblast, trying in this way to look for missile stocks, well, it’s just saying that such an opinion is wrong, and the third main thing - this is the continuation of terror against the civilian population , because we are aware that the enemy is not able to achieve its results on the battlefield, that is why they choose

such a vulnerable target and this vulnerable target of ours the most moderate inhabitants of our cities and villages, mr. serhiyevich, then we will continue about russia, see what we see simply from open sources , what does it mean there, some part of the bachmut comes out, some chechens go there, then, uh , already on the territory of russia, the acacia has moved there, it goes to the border guard in parts of russia which border ukraine. in short, we ourselves. well, as far as i’m concerned, this doesn’t mean that it doesn’t correspond to military science. i’m not a military scientist, but i think that when every day we receive information about there, they will come and serve. there is something, there is something, don't you have the feeling that nervousness, some nervousness, i would even say it in ukrainian. you know more . not yet. not yet. but we are trying

to make it so that nervousness has become the main factor in the actions of the russian troops to date, and in particular, the strikes on military facilities on the territory of russia adds to this nervousness or nervousness, we are talking about the so-called what is called dagger attacks by russian volunteers on the territory of russia that forces the enemy to redeploy the infliction continuous strikes, in particular those last strikes, so that they were also on the soviet side in a stream on melitopol while there are those on donetsk and so on and so on, they force the enemy to maneuver, that is , i would not yet say that this is nervousness. a way to move from one place to another place and it is called such a way out from under the possible blows it carries serious losses and you know here is the reverse side of this

process that you are absolutely well in the program this leads to exhaustion and, in principle, when we talk about such processes, and this is one of the tasks of carrying out such strikes and , in general, your units in all directions , including directions that are not included in the territory of ukraine, so this is one of the elements. i would say yes, not with by the way, but already preparing for offensive actions, the defense force of ukraine is one more question , mr. serhiy. well, it is clear that the ukrainians will not bomb civilians. although, on the other hand, i am sitting and thinking. well, if they start flying, they might not bomb this way. it ruble uspenskaya shosse is where the leadership of russia is located, and if you push there even without weapons, without explosives, i’m just there , 100 of some uh, some aircraft that would just fly there. i think it wo n’t be a military military-political influence because when it’s over you

flies and you are a minister, vice prime minister, then you have an even greater desire and somehow, well, somehow not to be too agree with putin, for example. yes, i would say, you know how on a brick, there were still deeper, uh, the specifics of russia, as far as i know it what i remember is that something is happening in the conditional belgorod in chechnya or in haishenwein, which is still called vladivostok, eh, it doesn't affect the russians much. well, mentally, but if something happens in moscow, it's already something serious , eh, it really is concern is again an event, this is the first time, and you know it adds such a crack to the foundations of the russian political system that exists today well, this is my opinion, besides, pay attention to the comments that the russians themselves write

about the strikes or explosions in the area of ​​the ruble it it also says that there is a certain discrepancy, which is traditional for russian society, between the authorities and the slaves, and the guy will always think that she is somehow suffering, or even primitively , the guy's envy will always be such an element of their mentality, and that's why i fully supported that they dropped something, and by the way, this fits into such a concept, which is called scientific research, research, design work, because the ukrainians are developing a new weapon. let the russians contemptuously call this weapon

erzapts by aviation is my action then yes and then we are at the same stage as drones and so on . drawers but how do you feel, do you understand that we all do not know about this, only for the sake of alkali, maybe zelenskyi knows it, but ukraine has hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands of those devices that can fly somewhere on the territory of the russian federation, just because we have been talking about it for so long, but how many are there you can just imagine what flew, not 20, not 30, but 150 or 200 or 1,500 or 3,000, we can imagine the number, the potential number

of these aircraft. that group of e-e armored vehicles that flew into moscow , well, actually corresponds to exactly what indicators we are talking about e-e, further improvement of the environment, strengthening of the fight against the enemy’s radio-electronic means, that is, work is being carried out. moscow or in another location, it is evidence that we are very, very intensively developing this very direction of our combat vehicle, if you can say so, so we will be able to make hundreds of them. and by the way, you know this gentleman is helpful to us because he showed how simple such a weapon can be and how effective and how cheap it is meant to be. in other words, we have to learn from the enemy as well, so i have convincing hope that having such a potential that has been created since

2014-15, ukraine has own own the ability to make some progress in this direction and, uh, inflict more and more painful blows on the enemy. and if we talk about interaction with our other allies, in particular, with uh, turkish biraktars or new machines, which ends only with lm, then this opens us up to more more perspective, thank you serhiy rabsky , military expert, participant in peacekeeping missions , reserve colonel, thank you very much, and let's move on to a more diplomatic and political aspect, which we will talk about with yevgeny magda, executive director of the institute of world politics and good health, mr. yevgeny, thank you for finding time for us, i wanted to ask this question mr. serhiy, but i will ask you, well, you know , this is a military-philosophical question for a politician, imagine the belgorod region, shchebekina, now the whole world knows

what such a town is on the border with ukraine and there now russian volunteers are trying to fight. well, let's imagine the picture that they captured this shebekino and the nearby villages and some towns and it's well, let's tell us 10 or 100 m², what to do with it, who should go there the ukrainian troops should continue or just keep or just hang the yellow-blue flag to throw or hang it like they have it there white blue-white yes eyes if it was good russian just someone is thinking about what well well let's show ourselves that they everyone ran away yes, and ran away somewhere, and here you are about an empty place where there are no people, but there is no police, there is no power, there is nothing, there is nothing to be done with it. unfortunately, nature does not tolerate

emptiness, even in shebekino, that is why i think that such attacks are primarily of a psychological nature and when is that already this is not the first time that people who live inside russia and who do not watch the official television channels there, but read the telegram channels, have an interesting question . let's say in 2016, vladimir putin said that the borders of russia do not end anywhere, but here they turn out to be trees. pig and well, the russians, i understand, don’t like it very much, well, this is, in principle, a natural reaction when there are shells exploding , shooting, people dying there, they don’t like it, you can imagine when they

were striving i got the impression no they they don't want this, they want everything to fall on the heads of others, that is, when they killed ukrainians, they liked it, and now the support for what they call a special military operation reaches three quarters, but here you see how this so-called svo has returned to shabetina . i don't think that it will be such a constant process, but the presence of several dozen russian volunteers. well, in any case, they proved that the russian volunteer corps and the legion of freedom of russia do not exist, and let's say they convinced me that

these are not virtual organizations, i do not hide that i was quite skeptical about them, but i see that there are people here who are able to set real military goals and achieve them . and there is one more nuance that often remains outside the sphere of attention. the well-known meme is that voronezh should be bombed, it’s true, but for the time being, ours has already arrived, but somehow it’s not good to bomb shchebekino to the rashists themselves, well , it’s not very good, it’s not very good. they will then strike on their own territory, and that’s how i understand it a moment that, er, has a significant psychological impact, was asked by the invaders in their own territory during the second world war, and nothing, no one died, they destroyed many in the soviet leadership, stalin did not die , i am alive, it was a completely different situation