[000:00:00;00] we have an excerpt of an interview with oleksiy branovsky, who is a representative of the political center in the russian armed forces, that's what they call themselves, and the ultimate goals of russian volunteers, let 's listen and then i'll ask a question. liberation entered the territory of russia, and at the moment the fighting is literally going on, eh, our own, well, our former goal, first, the liberation of the belgorod region, and then the whole of russia is possible. moscow is partially falling in with what you are talking about. what regions can be next, but i would like to draw attention to the fact that analysts say that the second raid partizan was able to be stopped faster as if to the center. and in principle, what

can be considered a result in such a context, except for the seizure of territory. is it possible to talk about some kind of side effect? the population has stopped feeling safe well, at least, those areas that are close to the border with ukraine have stopped feeling safe , that's what they showed before that, uh , there, the internal statements of some girls from the belgorod region , probably. chebekino, who appears to be under attack, the truth is that the girls understand that they don’t understand or don’t want to understand, rather they don’t want to understand that all their troubles are connected with the fact that

the president of russia is walking in something in a state of such mental excitement, he did not give this criminal order from eh at the beginning of the war with ukraine and eh that the russian army on eh means committing mass crimes on the land of ukraine, this is for them eh so somehow and it doesn't come to my mind, well, sooner or later it will come, and you already understand it, this is the disappointment of the power's ability to protect the population, the power's ability to protect itself, that's where you live, how is this governor of the belgorod region in a cool state, mm, such a depressed state, yes it means that they understand that all this can end well for them, eh, and it’s even difficult to imagine what it is for, let’s say

for this governor of the belgorod region , this whole story can end, so does it mean that the partisans will be held responsible or there he will be punished or killed, but does it mean that he is the owner of the city ? regular putin's army is much closer to the order of courage, if i'm not mistaken. that's why the same fate can probably be smooth. you're not mistaken . he awarded the order of courage for what they understand , because this population is running away from shabekino, or almost everything has already run away.

did the head of this city help them or not? god only knows. well, someone had to be rewarded. putin was rewarded, but he lived at all, you know. he doesn’t react to these events in any way. let me clarify because we waited for shchebekin to grow and putin didn’t. he didn't mince words well, yesterday, well, anyway, in the events, he planned a meeting in the online mode with the multi-child families, and what does this position of the central government have to do with , because the kremlin brass were still actively discussing all this on the channels. say that he can say now that the army will come and everything will be fine, but she understands that the army will not come, at least

in the number that is needed just keep silent and do nothing forever, because the question immediately arises, who is our supreme commander, putin, who, according to the constitution, and according to everything, according to the concepts , even what is more important for russians, is responsible for security, well, putin is responsible uh, what, where is the fsb looking, it’s clear where they’re looking, they’re probably looking at the pocket of the topic , uh, the entrepreneur they’re covering , but it’s a very interesting activity partisans it means that this is a failure, first of all, of the fsb

, because the task is the task, and uh, this organization of this department is primarily the opposite of internal enemies, yes. and how will they be? from under the moscow forests on and as they say in russia, yes, there is still something like this happening, and in the fsb, it is a secret. well, there are some people who publish critical comments about the actions of the russian army. well, this is called discreditation of the armed forces. well, it’s easier to praise them, and it’s difficult to catch a partisan. that’s why we need such an fsb or this troubling bandit, of course.

no explosives fell on the heads of the population of russia, uh, the question is, of course, and uh, it's the same thing, when an angry russian person watches tv, drinks beer or something stronger, don't think. yeah, that's how well our people are fighting in ukraine, but uh, until as long as nothing will fall on his head that will greatly upset him. well, this is how these girls from shubekin will rush to the front line, they will not stop the doors of the so-called bastards, they will simply open the front line a-a p yurii i thank you very much thank you for joining kefir yuriy fedorov, russian military experts from prague were in direct contact with us, thank you, and on duty at night russia's attack on ukraine launched 15 cruise missiles and 18 iranian attack uavs, all air targets were destroyed, they reported to

the air defense forces of ukraine what the kremlin has been littering ukrainian cities for more than a year, the remnants of downed russian drone missiles together with a weapons expert were analyzed by andriy kozakov, the first missile since the 20th year of the 21st year, the year we see it in kiev, shelling was carried out . we also see the caliber of the naval base and iskanderka - it is launched from ground launchers and, accordingly , the unmanned aerial vehicle is a minefield, now a new example has appeared here, here is a hypersonic dagger dagger missile. for a long time, the ukrainian air defense forces

said that they could not intercept and shoot them down now it has been intercepted and shot down, this is the first instance that was destroyed, now experts are investigating what is inside it, we are studying, conducting an examination, and the means of attack with which the shelling was carried out, i know how it is guided, how it flies, everything is being studied and, accordingly , measures are being taken to counteract it ukrainian specialists , having studied this sample, came to the conclusion that the dagger missile does not have the same characteristics as depicted by russian propaganda, the weapon is serious and dangerous, but it can be hypersonic call with a stretch an indeterminate area at the appropriate height. it can break. yes, we understand that it can develop some speed that is hypersonic, but this area, some

area further on, it is not hypersonic, because if we say a-a hypersonic fast e-e weapons, then the united states and they don't understand it that way . it should fly to the target. they failed only in december of last year. a hypersonic weapon is considered if it can exceed the speed of sound more than five times. putin assured that the dagger is 10 times faster . weapons expert alexander says that it is not so . at four and a half thousand kilometers per hour, it has proximity to the target what happened is a little less, what we know is measured, that is, not what well, there is no hypersonic in the final section, it is not

hypersonic in any way, it is achievable for the corresponding complexes, the corresponding complex is the patriot which was provided to ukraine by the usa, as practice has shown. it was able to shoot down russian super weapons even during a mass attack with daggers. oleksandr adds that if you look at it, the dagger is not some kind of exceptional development, it is an ordinary missile of the kander complex that was attached to the mig 31 supersonic aircraft. a super weapon, in fact , it is an iskander 9km 723 missile, which is a foreign skandar, this is a missile with a so-called modification of the eskander vk rocket, which is launched by an aircraft carrier some

the elements are finished, and in general it is also an iskander, and here is an interesting financial fact: the cost of the iskander missile is 3 million dollars in the version of a dagger for the russian budget, it costs from 10 million dollars, the dagger turned out to be not the only russian weapon , the effectiveness of which is clearly overestimated, it is debris against the radar missile of the russian analogue of the american missile harm that is, she respected that they cannot be shot down, everything is shot down well, the dagger also does not shoot down everything , everything is shot down. produced in 1988 during soviet times 515 that is, this is a 515 missile that was produced in the sixth batch, that is, the 515th missile is only in the sixth batch, the interesting fact is that

they were produced in kharkiv by the motor sich engine, these missiles were at one time transferred to russia and now russia launches all missiles over ukraine andriy kuzakov vasyl martyshchenko for radio liberty mykhailo zhirokov military expert joins our broadcast p mykhaila my greetings good evening good evening you know i would first like to return to the events of today took place in berdyansk, they say that the ukrainian military targeted the occupied port of berdyansk, and how important is this port for the army of the russian federation, do they use it for military purposes ? because earlier we said that they simply take loot from it. and does it matter from a military point of view. well, there are two ports on the sea of ​​azov - these are mariupol and berdyansk, which are used as such a hub, e-e, in order to transfer

the russians transfer a-a ammunition and military equipment to them, e-e, the sea of ​​azov from occupied crimea and that's why they store it there in mariupol, this is azovstal, the remains of azovstalia, and in berdyansk - it's uh , that's where the stormsedov rocket hit and it's such uh, uh, near-port, uh, near-port areas well, in general, if to talk about berdyansk as a city earlier, general zaluzhnyi said that the liberation of melitopol would open a corridor to the crimea. and how important is berdyansk for the occupiers, namely as a hub, as a base for e-e in order for e-e troops fighting e-e in occupied zaporizhzhia oh, and

kherson, well, kherson is less than zaporizhia the region receives weapons from there, and as for melitopol, yes, melitopol is the key to everything in that direction . well, what happens on the second day in the belgorod region, of course, is in the area of ​​our attention, and to what extent , in your opinion, does it distract the ship from what is happening on the line of the front in ukraine or today is still worrying in smolensk and kursk , will they attract what are your forecasts , will additional resources be attracted to the borders of the russian federation , and unfortunately i can say that additional resources , if they will be attracted, will be exclusively guards and border troops that are subject to the federal federal security service of the russian federation, that is, to withdraw some units from the front in order to protect the belgorod region or some

other border area, they will not be, but what should be the scale so that they directly involve the russian army in order to attract the borders protect well, here it is difficult to say how much the russians , uh, keep defenses there , how much they think that it is necessary to defend these territories, but at least two raids that are media, they uh testify to the fact that putin does not plan to defend. fill in these territories. i want to mention today the minister of defense of britain, because on the street a he said that ukraine has already shown that if they attack the troops of the russian federation in the wrong place, they will actually collapse. indeed, in your opinion, the russian federation is currently unable to repel attacks where they were not prepared and how quickly , if necessary, it would actually be able

to redeploy resources to the necessary place , what does it depend on? well, look, the front is now somewhere around a thousand kilometers and mother a full-fledged defense in all these areas is practically impossible for any army, even more so the russian one, because the issue of the offensive and the issue of strikes by the armed forces of ukraine is the question of where exactly to strike, where it will be the most painful for the russians. the fact that putin is allegedly being lied to about the destruction of the petri missile defense system in ukraine, the minister of defense of lithuania said this today well, russian telegram channels are actively dispersing information about the destruction of the arrest, and what do you think is the purpose of such lies within the military-political leadership, it is for that

so that later it would be possible to justify the failure of the russian army or is it in order to somehow support the morale of the russians, i don't know, but it's very difficult to say anything about the russian telegram channels. i remember just a few days ago they were dispersing information about the fact that commander-in-chief zaluzhnye he died or received some kind of injuries that do not allow him to drive. before that , there was even more stupid information, so there is no way to talk about something. well, i don't see it, i don't see the point in it. and today there were many statements again. about the counteroffensive, the president had many questions from journalists about the counteroffensive, he commented that this is not a movie and russia should actually feel the counteroffensive well, if we recall one more statement related to the counteroffensive, we talk a lot about the coalition of fighter jets, but here is the head of the joint committee of the chiefs

of staff, general mark milley said today that what is important is that he emphasized the importance of tanks for the future counteroffensive of ukraine, but again, we are mostly talking about fighters about the air or the completely closed needs of the armed forces of ukraine in tanks, in general, the situation with this is soft now. well , it is necessary to say that how many weapons and when they were handed over are not freely available. this is a military secret and this that's why it's right to talk now about how many tanks were handed over to us, what kind of tanks are they, what kind of quality are they, well, it's people talking about their own emotions or

, actually, some kind of calculations, so this inflating the situation around the f16 didn't make any practical sense, and at times it looked very very unnecessary for ukraine in the world and in general, is it correct that we agree with the fact that in the conditions of a counteroffensive, the decisive role will be played by tanks , namely tanks, combat vehicles, infantry and artillery , everything else - this is from the cunning f16. we need it, but there is an understanding. it's a long game and well, if next year we get some western fighter jets

, it will be good to hear mr. mykhailo, thank you very much for joining the broadcast . invited to the summit of the brics countries in south africa in august, although it is true that the russian president will go to the pair and it is still unknown whether they themselves will transfer it from africa to china, which was to protect putin from arrest, at the same time , most of the civilized world came to the conclusion that the tribunal for punishing russian military criminals are needed , andrii smirnov, the deputy head of the president's office, who actually takes care of, among other things, the creation of a special international you can watch the full interview with the tribunal on sunday on the radio freedom channel on youtube. well, just now, i would like to bring to your attention a fragment of this conversation, if at the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion there was no stable consensus regarding the tribunal. now, i see from the statements

of the international partners of the leaders of the west countries all supposedly support the idea of ​​the tribunal, but i don't see, i don't understand yet what it will be, do you have this understanding a-a we have an understanding of what we want, what we think the model of the tribunal should look like, what we started advocating for the idea in the creation of a mechanism of punishment for the crime of aggression literally from the first days of the escalation of the russian invasion last year, and if the first six months of our advocacy of the need to create a tribunal were numerous and quite skeptical discussions, then in the second half of 2022, indeed , most of the civilized world it passed because let's say in the general conclusion that the mechanism is needed, that is, the question of the expediency of creating a mechanism no longer exists

, and what does president putin mean, we will not be able to many of the ukrainians of the civilized world. i don't want to name the personalities of the leaders of these countries and it is possible to focus on the countries. they still hoped that common sense might appear in the head of the inadequate putin and that this aggressive war would develop it will be possible to stop the attack against ukraine through diplomatic negotiations, and such an idea existed somewhere in the first six months of last year, and with every missile attack, with every mass grave found, without news of killed ukrainian civilians, children, women, that's all

they dispelled their skeptical moods and the civilized world eventually came more and more to the conclusion that there can be no negotiations with such inadequate people and the world really needs an effective mechanism of prosecution for crimes of aggression, the crime of aggression we in international law is a primary crime, it is a higher crime military-political leadership of a specific country that committed an act of aggression against another state in order to move to the level of practical negotiations discussion of the model, this tribunal should work, a coordination group was created, which at the beginning included about 20 states, today this group includes 38 countries, and we have on the table three working versions of how the tribunal should work, and we actually delivered our word to all the representatives of all the countries that are included in the coordination group on what

ukraine considers to be the most effective, legitimate , broad and authoritative model for the creation of such a tribunal - it is a tribunal that is created between state agreements, international agreements, a treaty between the un and ukraine, time the air alarm system will be opened forcibly, the local authorities decided that this is due to the tragedy that took place the day before in the capital, when three people, including a child, died near a closed bomb shelter. of air alarms in the material of our regional correspondents when there is only an alarm i open at night and during the day when at work well of course

no было всё время открыто well, when there was a homeless person there, and in that one they took, of course, they started to close it, it doesn’t work the other way. almost after every shelling, they receive requests from citizens that certain shelters were closed during air attacks regarding the bomb shelter near which the tragedy occurred, such requests were not received when we come with the inspection everything is fine but when the air alarm starts for some reason we have problems with the responsible persons who can open it to our question why does this happen sorry i was asleep i'm sorry, i was in another area during the air raid and couldn't come from those shelters. they turned out to be open, but whether they are open will have to be checked by the residents of kyiv themselves, although the local authorities promised to inspect all shelters in the near future in regions where shelling does not stop despite the danger of bomb shelters are not too popular in the dnipro for example, some residents admit that they are accustomed to danger and

shelter is not even close to 15 minutes by car , but when a plane flew near you, where did you go to the nearest they explain to the school that the bomb shelter is always open during air raids, and not only students and teachers are allowed into the school shelter, but also all those who are willing are used for representatives of institutions, and if such mass air raids really happen , local residents come running to us, but unfortunately, not everyone always responds to air alarm and in most cases it is really local residents of our area and give birth to residents, the correspondent says that they often do not pay attention to the signals

of air alarms because they are clean and the areas can be heard or not every day, but well, we realized that there is no point in hiding, because the buildings are such that if you fall into them , there will be nothing left when i fell asleep, they flew the entire entrance from the upper to the lower floor of the shelter, it is the 58th school, there is an excellent shelter, yes during an emergency, we go to the shelter very well there, it is clean and tidy, everything is kharkiv here, as in the capital, many people use the subway as a shelter , mainly during the day and at night , those who live nearby are looking for shelter here, first of all, it takes

more than the alarm sounds, we are already got used to somewhere we are no longer going anywhere, where can you hide from the rocket if you live in an apartment or in a house and you can hide next to the odesa metro station? well, as practice shows today, if a rocket is flying, you have 20 seconds at best, and if it’s on the road at 3:00 a.m. mykolayiv for more than eight months while the occupation of the right bank of the kherson oblast was in the range of enemy artillery. residents admit that during this time they got used to air attacks, so the apartment is the safest place for them . we have a fitness club downstairs. people used to go to a fitness club. in the basement, well, it seems to me that the apartment is safe. we managed to get into one of the bomb shelters in mykolaiv. this is what it looks

like as we see it. it is equipped with sleeping places. here you can drink water and get fresh water . and it was not my own, where is it here that is close, i mean, we drove with water, then we slowly got used to it, we all sat at home, we sat next to each other with two walls. mykola davydyuk, a political scientist , will come to our air, mykola the good evening greetings well, actually we showed stories from the regions of different regions of ukraine, what is the situation with the shelter, the attention is focused especially after yesterday's tragedy that happened near the closed shelter in the capital, and we remember that during yesterday there were accusations against each other from the central and local authorities everyone tried to convince the ukrainians that this was not his area of ​​responsibility. well, it's not a secret that