[000:00:00;00] right now there are some new tasks, that's why mr. waved off you good evening good evening rdogan очень стрыный приход вешный и между и времныйнный made a bet on nina elite and on let's say so, i said the provinces in poland but this is what won this election we are watching the first round and the second round in red, red, those who voted against him from the coast, istanbul , ankara, izmir, and so on, and of course the chords. let's say it's political and now they have serious serious tasks

ahead of them . on the greatness of turkey, on the turkish miracle and on the future, turkey, which will be a player, it can and cannot, it is impossible to resign on the fact that free gas is now already one thing to be in the position in the promised they how said cherche most of all they will lie in the elections and during the war and now he has a question and the opposition is strong yes yes we even watch internal eh snezhny now he won this battle but the positions did not disappear anywhere the opposition remained and it will not be so easy in the parliament and now he is already on his way to the inauguration, it was jans tonberg who was the first to say this. it was a reminder that you are a member of nato and that we previously allowed you to do something else

. now erdoğan will have to fulfill his promise. allow yourself with putin in a different way, eh, as we used to say, it was the goal of russia’s war in ukraine, if iran dirty-mindedly sought for itself eh, su-35 and so on , it sought to achieve the economy and achieve greatness for itself so that he signed on to the turkish platform and it was handed to him huge economic-loyal politicians-dividends. putin did not give him these. do you want to say that everything he did in that regard, and in relation to ukraine, he did for the sake of his elections and for the sake of his victory? now he has we succeeded obsessed with this, he understands his deadline, if now we see the real face of erdoğan in foreign policy, will he continue to really try to play in the moments that i am a mediator, but according to our information , the insiders are already russian citizens who came and bought housing, and

their arrival time will be limited registration is already a bank of the world, which card is a russian card of the bank of the world , where it works only in turkey, which means that it will be limited, he perfectly understands everything, the ministry of finance , and the imf can deal a fatal blow to him pay the economy, that is, first of all, they have putin here, he won the war before putin , and now he will show who they really are, but he has a serious task ahead of him, and we in ukraine do not share anything bad with him , but now he hid, she must show, too, other possibilities requirements, namely we in ukraine proved that we are a partner in the world on the basis of international values . этом прочатся э-э territory sensor of ukraine, who was against putin now, already rdagan

rani lipovo, soon then he will already appoint his assistants there or appoint ministers, he again talks about his turkish initiative , the peace plan that we have to wait for, this is very important. you can see and now the question about sweden, which they declared, that is, nato reminded that the question is on the agenda of the day of sweden , they didn't press him hard, he gave a cinnamon roll, ok, it's good, and now sweden and now the west won't forgive him if he leads previous politics and now we see new reprimands and actors at home, similar yes now the united states is clearly further away it is clear that there will be planes if finland is faster nato has already opened masks, no one trades openly anymore and biden said that we are ready for cooperation , but he did not congratulate him on this an important moment, that is, it is already hinted that we gave ourselves to win. well done, you won. okay. and now

try to implement. and now in turkey , in fact, it is very serious. with all the strangers in the region, without all of this, you will accept me carefully, carefully, about us, then we will analyze volodymyr . tell me, please, that mahamed said that it will be very important for us when redikan speaks again about his peace plan. do you think that he will be different from what happened before their earthquake, what exactly can change in this peace plan, what can erdoğan play on and to what extent can the world listen to the peace plan of turkey , not china, for example well, actually, china does not turkey does not have a clear concrete peace plan. there are certain proposals, certain ideas, uh, some questions, well, first of all, the status of the occupied territories - it's just a dead end, and here there is simply no compromise in theory

, uh, crimea, and our status of the occupied territories is not important here, crimea or even there in the kherson zaporizhzhia region for the current situation when russia annexed these territories as a special guarantor of the territories from nato. i think that when will the issue be resolved if , for example, military operations remain , will the situation end when it is not fully freed purchased territories and for example, crimea will remain under the control of russia for a certain time, there will be a question about the demilitarization of these territories and right here is turkey. i think that it will even try to take on the role of mediator if, for example, while it is purely theoretical, but then suddenly the question will arise about peacekeepers or there is some kind of international administration in certain territories yes very close yes yes turkey will be one of the main

contenders, but i have noticed that now there will be an exam for erdoğan in the near future it seems that the problem has already been solved many times by grain agreements. but now the situation has changed a little in russia, there is huge dissatisfaction, huge criticism, and there they believe that the last extension of this agreement is just on the eve of the elections . those who are for putin are blaming laurel there and others, that they are the so-called party. peace, but in fact it is a great pleasure and everyone thinks that it is for the sake of the editor. it was such a gift to the cardigan , they extended it for a new agreement

. here is the very model under which the grain agreement was signed, here i think that it will be taken as a basis for future negotiations, direct negotiations between ukraine and russia are now practically impossible, well, that’s very me. it’s hard to imagine , given the position of president zelenskyi. and i think that the russians can also go there to direct negotiations but everything is the same, there are also certain limitations, and this is the model proposed by turkey and the un on the grain agreement when they sign documents separately in parallel. i think it can be applied and one more important thing regarding the third term rdahana yes, i wanted to clarify, because now there is another agreement on the agenda, which is not there yet, but the russians insist that this is the beginning. this is the beginning of work on ammonia pipelines . the italians in odesa. the russians say there will be no grain agreement. it will not work if you do not start ammonia. passes through bakhmut, and i saw information that it was a soft cable that was even

shot at somewhat. although it stopped its work from the very beginning of the war and in the first days, and they even talked about the fact that there was some minimal leak, i don't know, this has not been confirmed. the information was, i don't know when it was uh, but here is the question because when it comes to the ammonia pipeline, in our country there were even votes inside if the ukrainian government will allow it, then it will be treason because we will allow the russians to make money from us on the ammonia pipeline and besides well, we are going to make concessions to the russians. our territory will be something flowing from italy to odessa. but suddenly i remind you that russian gas flows from russian territory through our territory to the european union. transit of this russian gas, there is already a precedent for that. well, i think that this is not actually about

treason, but about security risks, because uh, this is the yuzhny pivdennyi port, and if god forbid , everything is near odessa. yes, if god forbid, it will work and there will be another shelling of odesa and something will get there, yes, i just heard from businessmen who work in odesa nearby that it will simply be an environmental disaster, and this , by the way, is like the situation with the zaporizhzhia power plant, something similar, it will be constant blackmail, another lever for blackmail of ukraine and what did you say about bakhmut? yes, it can also be used to prevent, god forbid, some kind of offensive there, already ukrainian, in order to liberate this territory. yes, it can also be used for blackmail, that it is not possible to conduct military operations there, and so on. what i consider the greatest danger, and not just the fact of restoration in general , is the question of the restoration of the work of this ammonia pipeline there, i

would still understand in the context of the agreement on the end of hostilities there, the restoration of navigation in the black and azov seas , the restoration of the airspace there in to the country and so on yes then you can also consider this issue but it will be ours we can negotiate it has worked go away congratulations there should be demands from our side eh by the way turkey turkey proposed that the russians make concessions so that they would give the opportunity for the port of mykolaiv to work yes well, so that there would be more e-e portions from the ukrainian side for the export of grain, and the russians want to get the opportunity to export good e, so the situation is difficult and this will be just the test

for erdogan. will he succeed once again to ensure the continuation of the grain agreement. if it succeeds, then he will definitely be considered in the future as one of the main contenders for the role of mediator in the future customs negotiations, that he is the person who is actually heard by the two sides , yes, and for him. that is why the third term is important. and as a rule, the last term of the presidency, a person must work for history , and here there can be negatives, as with putin , well, this is not his last term, so real. yes, we do not know for sure. yes, but he already has so much behind him. to stay in history, i know to become the new peter, peter, him, or someone else, yes . what did it lead to in erdoğan? well, we will not touch it. i know the situation in other regions there, the kursk problem, syria. yes, but to become such a successful peacemaker. i think that yes, it is for there is a way to remain in history p maximum let's finish the elections then, what is your vision of the old new erdogan and what new prospects does it open up for ukraine or problems do you know

you asked about the fact that it was unexpected that erdogan was actually elected for i personally was surprised by the first round. i could not have predicted that the different social services painted completely different pictures, but when we looked at the actual schedule of who voted for whom and when we learned that the most vulnerable sections of the turkish population voted for erdogan, people who suffered from earthquakes voted for erdogan big business, which to a greater extent, by the way , grew and became a big business since erdogan voted for him, the question has ceased to be relevant as regards what expectations from dergan and in general, what kind of vector will he choose? to be honest, i am a supporter of the opinion that a person at the age of almost 70, who has tried politics all his life, is unlikely to be able to offer some radically new approach to international politics. i completely share volodymyr's opinion about the fact that he

wants to remain in history. he wants to know, maybe this is not a completely wrong comparison, but he is often called the turkish sultan in turkey . now i would probably like to demonstrate what results this actually led to. during this election campaign, the main such message was really on large infrastructure projects, at the time when he used to talk a lot about economic transformations , integration and the event and some other aspects , including with the renewal of applications for joining the eu, erdoğan demonstrated how he sits behind the first electric car produced in turkey, how he opens another gas field and tells everyone about free gas , launches the first nuclear power plant fully and actually i think that it was you already know such a preview of what his presidency will be like it seems to me that in the context of hmm turkish-russian relations

it is unlikely that anything will change radically again i will explain why because in the conditions of a serious economic crisis and understanding that russia remains one of the main import and transport partners of turkey, he is simply obliged not to work with russia, to allow the same trade, to get the russian market for his household appliances, construction materials of other resources with the help of which they trade, so it seems to me that there will be no such breakthroughs here, at the same time , ukraine can definitely count on an attempt to at least preserve the entire grain initiative here. by the way, a very important nuance is that during the presidential campaign, the russians and began to actively resort to this blackmail regarding the grain initiative will it continue, it will not continue, realizing that now is their window of opportunity to demonstrate

their character, their strength, but actually after erdoğan's victory, it seems to me that these issues have disappeared from the agenda ugh. i understand that in the next 5 years, turkey needs to grow some such leader who would successfully combine kyrych and his program and return the greatness. i even know one such name century as the foundation the turkish republic and the destruction of the ottoman empire. and that's why he doesn't talk about it in vain, but his ambitions are big and that's why he won the election . what will he finish? he just spoke to turkish voters in the language that he the opposition understands the bet on the economy, he did it on values ​​than what erdoğan said after the victory, we will protect the family and we will not allow the lgbt, that is, we forgot about the problem of hunger and this mistake of europe with the network in the zucchini of values ​​that wave right and left. this is wrong precisely on her there

putin made a bet in qatar fifa, and i didn't make a bet rdogan po no, dictate to people how to live and on the contrary, they need to observe international laws , i understand. let's allow and what is done in them at taxi dinners i apologize there with well, there is also lgbt in this and look at what in what the question is fighting eh raisins of the east to the east like to hear exactly that the society is good and that what is happening in private homes is more for example, court, arabic, musorbskaya country, when i was in the sudan, i left what the post office and the post office say, the third house chases the moonshine, why do people still

want to win? that's right, for example, one case violates everything, and the other case wants to confess it. gave a simple example, there is such a thing, so that they understand, a turkish voter from such a type of shawarma is made from the gut and it is very difficult to digest. standards and made in the whole company what is against the traditional kitchen of turkey , that is, there is no bet on what a simple person who thinks he is in turkey, he is afraid for his values ​​for his way of life for erdoğan made a bet, and in this way, he will win his own young ladies who offered to be a friend . i scored on democracy itself, this is important , and now he promised greatness, because

he ordered them to build the aircraft carrier muhammad ii amaha, all he did was win. constantinople turned it into something and that's a message to the past that i'm the future sultan, well , he doesn't talk about it openly, but that's exactly the contradiction, er, to turkish society , the elections confirmed this, and the biography of the elections and the demographic structure more and more young people are changing, more and more young people are more likely to be against erdogan, but ideologically, it is about values , ideological divisions, this is istanbul, there was something related to this square that you mentioned, when i was in istanbul, it was 5-7 years ago, i talked with colleagues there, political scientists of the youth and here they were telling that this is a problem, yes, there is ideology and a churk of secular turkey. yes, there is this neo-osnonism and traditional values, this value split, it exists and is getting stronger, and i think that this date that was mentioned,

this is the centenary of the creation of modern turkey. just the reason for escalating such a struggle for erdoğan. i think that there will be a problem, this is also a problem of the third term. it is even symbolic that erdogan wants to build an aircraft carrier . and what should fly on an aircraft carrier? the next head of this modern empire, that is, he is the one speaking when we broke off with you, and he is the one who embodies the features and character of darga and erdoğan, but in

such an erdoğan, yes, yes, he will not try to build an empire, but he is it is used for let's say so that it touches people's feelings, tell people that they have stalgia of greatness, they have at least rastalgia, but he perfectly understands today, they will return egypt to the orbit of the ottoman empire or with vodakhria, but it is possible to talk about this, but recently the president of egypt that he is not a legitimate coup d'état. теперь он его высылает высылает let's talk about this subject, i want to say a few things about the first test about my candidate son-in-law erdoğan. it seems to me that work has probably already begun on this flank, because we can systematically see a change now . in general, the election campaign in life and a person of an older age and how many chances he had, and unfortunately or fortunately, i

do not know how for whom he could not win, that is why there will obviously be a change of elites and actually this is the criminal case that was started against the mayor erdoğan, which is much younger and much more promising. perhaps erdoğan is looking somewhere in this direction in order to create a basis for the takeoff, let's say, of his connection, and now regarding the literal position of erdoğan from these traditional values , it seems to me that during the election campaigns , they were definitely wound up and raised , well, artificial on the one hand, but on the other hand , the nationalist factor in turkey is very important in this context. if you look again at the voting results, then the majority of nationalists was taken by erdoğan, and not being so nationalist there in relation to national minorities. and if we compare it with klych drogla, then he actually said that the first day after the victory, i will send all these eggs home and there will be none , in fact, they did not believe him and paid attention

precisely on erdoğan, therefore, to a greater extent, it was probably also populist, so absolutely aimed at a specific audience, at a specific niche, not a message and absolutely not a fact that after the victory, similar initiatives will be implemented and what you say that they do what they want at home, but it seems to me that in this context it will continue, please, on the taxi square , god forbid, after all, about returning the bicycle, or maybe if erdogan does not succeed in something that he planned and he will still want to remain in history. he will start playing this game in reality and what risks it carries , in particular for ukraine, to return the wheel. will he really, well, fight for the new sultan, let's try it in the series, when he just hinted at the little girls, he hinted that eh arab emirates olga-arab world was now a mask of an empire when he hinted that the arab world was once well , he was simply inspired, so it was quite the opposite, it did it strongly

, the whole arab world responded to him like the saudi rave and the arab emirates and egypt at once from all the counters of turkish shops the goods are garbage , despite everything , god has united the strongest armies, this is what we are talking about egypt and gave my black red line. you didn't sleep, you were shot down. and you, egypt, and moscow, your line, where are the benzes, we are getting closer, they were shot down, and just vertican was silent and swallowed and understood with the egyptians, and the plus is that you have a lot of time in the arab world. this is a story. i say it well. therefore, how will it be returned to her without these? let's say it will be the former owner, but they accept him. as a possible partner, but they don't trust him , how many times does he signal cairo and cairo does not react in any way, but the turkish peoples, the second is

kazakhstan, the uzbek center, we are a state, and there can to play in the turkish soviet and he created it turk sevector tancev he is not a fool he has already seen how putin tried to build who took out russian peace topics i came back and he tried the grandfather alliance already er-er sbosbory for turkey nations - it's normal it's legal but in it is impossible to build reality because it is precisely the first blow of europe from the east. a direct conflict, if you see that it will have some problems for him, let's remember the story of the games in china, there are serious pressures and enough problems, but at the same time, erdogan remains, let's say, a very friendly politician in the partner to the chinese regime , there are no problems, this also applies to

a certain extent, probably crimean tatars, of course , there was a brighter position, there was condemnation , but at the same time, he did not succeed in some radical actions. therefore, this is the politician who is obviously trying to find opportunities for him it was possible to do this more than anything in african countries , not least with the help of ukrainian grain, so when they talk about the functioning of the grain corridor, i understand that this is largely in the interests of turkey, most of the ships that transport ukrainian grain from ukrainian ports are turkish first turks buy ukrainian grain, after that redugan brings it to african countries and looks like a global leader. this is our mistake in ukraine . how many ukrainian goods are on the shelves? it is in arab stores in tunisia and others. that is what is written in copper. cakes are actually ukrainian goods repackaged . i am saying this because we have bad managers. they are good. in uniforms and crabs, our milk is our butter

. chicken eggs are sent to iraq, and already to peanuts there are many ukrainian products. well, they simply do not buy legal turks, but sell repackaging , that is, they understand this very well , rodogan, they can’t even take steps, but how does he, how does he think, if i can get huge political floats for words, what’s the problem i will say when i remember i would take him myself, they had strong political winners in ara. he supported them, even raised them not as a symbol and challenged all the arab monarchs. they will all lose and the arab rosaries gave peace, few people noticed that they all have a window to the british appeal, not the media, that is, the turkish media showed how he stood up for them , show me how he expelled okay, uh, so the next

5 years, what should erdogan do on in the geopolitical field, what tasks does he have, what does he have to deal with? what kind of plan does he have to provide leadership? in moscow and in a bikini, there is a lot to tell about the polar light, but erdogan will strive turkey has become one of the poles of this world by the way, i think that well, all this is just starting in closed mode, but we are not, not in general, and i will tell you what they will fight for in particular for that that turkey and india will also fight

for turkey to become a permanent member within the framework of the reform of the un security council . yes, here the question is whether or not the affairs are vetoed. yes, definitely . this is a way to go down in history, to demonstrate global leadership . how many space states do we have as a single unit? can be potential allies there, the truth is that this is a man of the world, the struggle for influence in the post-soviet space , what are you saying? as far as i understand, it is beginning to overlap with the interests of china in many ways , how ready is turkey now to push a more powerful competitor, well , definitely not now, because the economic the potential in china and not only economically, it is much greater and the influence is greater now, but they will definitely do it in

the regional plan, and here, among other things , it is precisely the question of competition in the role of an intermediary on peace negotiations. this is competition with china. erdogan has a handicap and a certain advantage. he has a unique status. he is so almost perfectly neutral. he has good relations with putin and zelensky. and turkey has strategic interests in relation to russia and in relation to ukraine. - and unlike china, they do not look like they are biased that they will play there on the side of russia or on the side of ukraine, but china, well, everyone understands china, it is much closer to russia. and the problem here is that china cannot be like that a neutral mediator so that's exactly the topic of negotiations with ukraine and russia. i think i'll try the editors for