tv [untitled] June 3, 2023 10:00am-10:31am EEST
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[000:00:00;00] the 465th day of full-scale war between russia and ukraine continues, to your attention, urgent news in the studio of anzhelika sezonenko, five people were wounded, among them two children , in the kherson region, the russians fired 265 shells in the region, 29 of them were sent to kherson , the head of the regional military administration, oleksandr prokudin, reported that the occupiers hit two churches , a dispensary, and three administrative buildings of the boryslav district were hit by artillery from aircraft and drones in residential areas, two more people
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were killed, five were wounded in zaporizhzhia in particular, during the evening attack, a 62-year-old man was injured in a walnut tree, now it is known about 58 destroyed residential buildings, the head of the region, yurii malashko, said, according to him, the russians attacked 24 settlements in the region, among them gulyaipole, the village , novodanilivka, and kamyansk, one victim and one wounded 30 times per doboru russian terrorists fired at the border of sumy oblast in the khotyn community of russians , a projectile hit a house . the military administration in the region recorded 181 explosions, the enemy also hit the communities of yunakiv, bilopol, krasnopil, myropil, zno-novgorod, and middo-butsky today, russians do not celebrate the international
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parachute birthday half a thousand invaders failed to land on ukrainian soil at the beginning of a full-scale war , almost 209.5 thousand such russian paratroopers our defenders destroyed a dozen tanks and the same number of special vehicles, 12 armored vehicles, 22 vehicles, the invaders lost another 32 artillery systems, seven rocket salvo systems and the same number of air defense systems, 28 base pilots and 15 cruise missiles , the approximate data remind us that the putin regime is killing russians in the general staff, the fighters of the russian freedom legion showed a video of how the russian army raids the positions of the partisans, but in this way, the buildings of local residents are razed to the ground b the governor of the belgorod region reported
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two dead and eight civilian casualties, including two people injured as a result of a projectile bursting on the road one of them has shrapnel wounds to the arms and chest, the other has a contusion and shrapnel wounds to the arms and legs, both are in a serious condition in the hospital. people were injured , according to the reuters agency , a passenger train derailed in the evening, and part of the carriages ended up on nearby tracks; another coromandel express train crashed into them. traps inside the cars are currently on the spot, search and rescue operations continue, the prime minister of india expressed his condolences to the families of those killed in this for
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now, stay with the press. i congratulate you on the espresso channel, our army is preparing for an important offensive, and maybe it is already conducting it we have a significant increase in the number of destroyed important targets in the depth of enemy defenses , in turn, the russian volunteer corps carries out raid liberation actions on the territory of russia itself, and the kremlin itself, as well as the fascist the reich in the second world war, without being able to demonstrate victories on the battlefield, resorts to missile terror, the enemy does not stop missile and drone attacks on ukraine and on our capital, these are only individual fragments of such a combat mosaic this week and how all these events will affect the larger picture when it comes to the passage of the war, we will talk about the next issue of our military
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program with leading experts and military specialists. my name is serhiy zgurets and i am the director of the information consulting company defekt express, which is currently working espresso and now we are hitting mykhailo samus - this is the head of the international analytical organization new-yo-political research network , deputy director of the center for research of the army of conversion and destruction p mykhailo i congratulate you , i'm glad to see and hear i congratulate you, i'm glad to see well , usually there was a lot, first of all, according to tradition , i wanted i would like you to outline for our viewers the general picture that is currently being compiled in the format of our he from the russian federation and through the prism of the desire of the enemy's capabilities and mainly regarding the capabilities of the potential of our
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of the armed forces on the battlefield well, this is really a very interesting situation when, in fact , our friends and enemies have been waiting for a ukrainian offensive for, let's say, a few weeks and, accordingly, they are forming their strategies based on their expectations and their information politics, you absolutely rightly said that the russians don't really know what to do now because they are resorting to missile a-a terror, obviously trying to pressure and psychologically and trying to load, as they say, to exhaust ukrainian air defense and anti-missile defense, and maybe trying to interfere with the logistics of the ukrainian armed forces from the point of view of providing them with western equipment, that is, for them now, for the russians, it is very important to decide when the ukrainian offensive will be, where it will be, if it will be at all, and what to do next, because according to this expectation of the ukrainian offensive, the russians
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have lost everything it's not like a strategic initiative. it seems to me that there is some impulse on the battlefield, that is, they announced that they took bakhmut. although they did not do it, the wagnerites are now leaving bakhmut and regular forces go there, but how does the information go, the content is actually very difficult for them because the ukrainian armed forces created a very successful tactical situation the day before when they control the ukrainian forces control the dominant heights, they control the tactical situation in principle, they carry out fire control of bahmut and in these conditions of course , it is very difficult for wagnerites to leave and enter regularly and this, in principle, creates a situation when the kremlin should obviously show some other successes on the front. well , because you can't wait forever for an offensive
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there are reports coming from the kremlin that putin demands a-a intensification of hostilities in the marlin direction of avdiyiv in order to demonstrate at least some successes of the russian army. well, against the background of the fact that every night and every day in russia border cities and not so much with ukraine are flying unrecognizable aerial vehicles uh, what kind of drones are unclear, going on raid uh , uh, missions, let's say so, the russian volunteer corps of other forces in the border areas, uh, they are evacuating russian citizens, that's why the situation is really very difficult for the kremlin, in fact, it's very interesting that no one in russia has raised the question. and why doesn't putin introduce martial law in russia at all, because what is happening is what i called, for example , drone strikes and raids on russian territory. this is obviously an act of aggression, and according to russian legislation and
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the supreme commander should have long ago declared martial law and taken other actions in accordance with the law on the defense of the russian federation , but this is not being done, not even the air sirens are turned on because putin in fact, the cream doesn't really know what to do, because if you admit that it's a war, you'll admit that the russian federation didn't just conduct such a light special military operation for itself, but got involved in a war that threatens russian citizens, and at the same time, for some reason , these red lines have already been crossed. in fact, russia is not doing anything, it is not what the famous medvedev said or what putin said that if there are threats to the national security of russia, then everyone will see how it will all happen and the whole world will be in trouble the world will perish, but in reality this did not happen. and why is martial law not being carried out on the territory of russia, is it a lack of opportunities or some kind of internal political calculations
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, because we have repeatedly talked about the fact that the enemy should call for mobilization because in fact there are not enough forces, then they are not was done, then there is such an urgent need even for this observer from outside of us that something needs to be done, the muscovites are not doing it , the question arises why do you have an explanation for these procrastinating actions of the brother-in-law well, here you can except to explain it psychologically. because putin is, after all, a complex person , he has a huge number of psychological complexes. he always has a hard time making decisions and always has a very hard time admitting his mistakes. i think he never admits them. and this is the main problem, that is, if he now begins to act according to the algorithm of what the defense law requires, that is, to declare martial law, address the federal assembly and include this algorithm, conduct mobilization , and so on. well, then he admits that he
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made a huge mistake because he dragged russia, which was bathed in money, which had very good prospects from the point of view of further development, or should we honestly admit, because until february 24, our western partners calmly traded gas, oil and other goods with russia and in principle, he is not going to waste that profile, now russia is in a completely different state, the economic problems are just beginning, but if he also declares martial law, he will admit that he was wrong when he started the war against ukraine, well that’s it can really become some kind of problem for his political status, although for example i have the impression that it is precisely the political project of prigozhina of this wagner group and it is being implemented by the administration of president putin in order to prepare such a uh let's say a system for the absorption of protest sentiments, well , that is, if you imagine that now indeed, something will go
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wrong and the ukrainians will continue to expand their ability to influence the territory of russia. in fact, this can be considered a fairly likely scenario, so the protestors what is another project that expresses this from a completely different point of view, the patriots in this protest have their own protest moods , not liberal let's put it this way, the public. and just these twisted patriots, of which there can be quite a lot, well, i would say a few tens of percent is difficult here to talk about some exact numbers and i think that the project is beautiful for us could play just like a system for absorbing these protesting moods in order to prevent a really uncontrolled riot in russia, and prigozhyn will control it and guide it in the right direction it is possible even at the regional level to go there to destroy or where to somehow gain respect for officials and so on, that is, there will be some kind of release of steam at the regional level, this can
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be allowed and why are they actually not using it now? can the process of these enraged patriots or eh new ones not eh let's put it this way new new protest moods, well here you are by the way, about prigozhin as an option for channeling such protest moods to the russian federation eh it was said earlier that the actual embellishment is there, the kovalchuk brothers are standing there , you are a poor fellow, this is actually such a project. where is prigozhin acting as such a frontman, and such ideological financial foundations lie precisely in the hands of these people, and then there is the question of another direction of the canalization of the related with the people of dudaev, with the people of kadyrov, rather, in fact, yes, that is, literally, this conflict that became public. yesterday, he is somewhat interesting. well, i think it is quite interesting because
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the people of kadyrov raised their voice there, he means that he is like that, there are arrows for the beauty. to find out what they should do in your opinion, is this a sign that when we said that there will still be a clan struggle for order in the russian federation, that it is starting , or is this, again, actually a controlled channelized process of two groups that are not over which again, there are people who will actually balance the prevailing sentiments in the russian environment in your evaluations. i think that these are different projects that are controlled again at the tactical level by the fsb or er ru and so on. that is, of course, everything it's on tactical or let's say yes even at the operational level, it is obviously happening through the special services, but at the strategic level, of course, all these threads lead to people from putin's entourage. i am sure that
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kadyrov is also controlled by people from putin's entourage and prigozhin. after all, the nature of these two projects of prigozhin and kadyrov seems to me to be a little different, i.e. kadyrov is a regional e baron he has his own private army and in principle, under certain conditions, he can become a threat to russia's territorial integrity, i.e. i am sure that as soon as some uh, let's say, the ties between moscow and grozny, uh, will weaken, or at all, centrifugal processes will begin, that is, the weakening of the center will begin internal processes in chechnya , it is not known where kadyrov understood this, that is, i mean that chechnya has its own clans and family groups that hate kadyrov, who consider him a traitor. well, this is really a traitor who led to the tragedy of the chechen people, and that is, kadyrov himself understands that his
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government is based solely on money and the influence of putin and the kremlin, if this influence and money disappear, kadyrov can be removed very quickly and very interesting processes will begin in the same month, therefore kadyrov performs any tasks, including he can now perform the tasks of other influential groups who are trying to play out some of their own scenarios, including in the kremlin and here. one more such important aspect, because in fact , you absolutely rightly said who is behind uh , beautiful, those are the people who actually rule russia now, these kovalchuks, and even more so patrushev. and what else is he doing? wagnergrup well, it's really nice, it's such a pr person, it's a frontman, but wagner is really engaged in it, it realizes the geographical interests of russia , that is, ukraine is one direction and here
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it is not the most successful. especially africa where wagner wagner group and here is this clique of oligarchs. they are really now ensuring the presence of the geopolitical presence of russia on this continent, and there it is squeezing france and playing with the united states and so on, that is, actually creating a power resource which promotes the geometric interests of the kremlin and this cannot be compared with the tick-tock army that kadyrov has and everyone understands the real status of kadyrov, again, i repeat , the chechens themselves consider him a traitor, so here i would say, for example, that this is the last of this frog gadyukin, as they call him among with the consonants kadyr, it is possible an attempt to make fun of the kadyrovkas, because remember the kadyrovkas, for some reason, just last week, some videos began to appear. there are many of them with maps.
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incomprehensible messages. what will they storm now? after the wagnerites leave, they will take the initiative, although of course it is impossible because the kaderites are not involved in this. this is a struggle of groups, but i think kadyrov's role here is overestimated , that is, after all, now the main project of the kremlin is beautiful . well, then there is a question about one more group - this is actually the military . yes, shoigu is there. and gerasim is in the place of these people conditionally speaking, now without the chikadirites, would i leave the wagnerites in both mouths until they were simply ground down and there were no such irritants of theirs and hers, but they have now gone into the shadows, and maybe they have not gone into the shadows, this is the military group that now provides influence on the situation in the background those challenges
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which, well, are now quite serious , the russian army has its own history. by professional qualities, of course, by dedication , by readiness to carry out any orders, including, let's say, the material sphere, that is, stealing and cutting the budget. to the same stern, such a modest general commands the military and space forces , from somewhere he has four estates on rublevka well, it is very interesting actually, but what am i talking about uh, in any case, the military is managed at the tactical operational level, again, the special services. i think that the agency of the same fsb is among the military, among the officers of the generals
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, it is well-known, and again, if this is exactly what happens when the order comes from the kremlin that the wagnerites leave and the military enter and the military is silent, and privozi, for example, can allow any of his statements regarding the same thing that the geras have in general the armed forces. this means that this confirms the version that in fact prigozhin is also wagner - this is a project of the kremlin now, that is, no, well if, for example, you could imagine that this is, for example, an fsb project, or , as some people think, there is some kind of uh, well, such a cool beauty who can afford such things. well, i think that he would have existed for a very few minutes, that is the military found a way to destroy him, he would have disappeared not only from the information space in general , from this existence, but completely opposite things are happening, the beauty does whatever she wants, and the front
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is clearly not controlled by the military. are introduced and will probably be moved somewhere to africa or to other regions of the world where their services are now more needed. well, for example, to the balkans. yes, where a lot of things are happening now , and russia is clearly losing its influence there, but the fact is that there will be wagnerites who have absolutely no rules there are absolutely no human values or something else that europeans use in european law enforcement agencies and special services. then russia can restore its influence there through the formation of new conflicts, the creation of new conflicts and launching some new destructive scenarios well, for example, in the balkans, although there are a lot of such regions. well, if he succeeds, for example, transnistria can also enter er, which is very relevant , for example, for the russians, they are simply losing their influence there , visually, they are losing their influence, so i think that this is evidence of exactly what the project is managed by the kremlin and wagner is a project
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of the kremlin, and the military can only sit quietly, because they know that if someone starts to protest, this general will disappear immediately , that is, the judgment is whether we are going to the idiots there do not perform their tasks, they are loyal, the main thing is that they are loyal, they do not raise their heads in response to any insults from prigozhin, they nod their heads and carry out orders from the kremlin, and this is the most important thing for the kremlin now, well, i agree with you here. but about gerasimov, we we remember the evaluations of zulazhny gerasimov, where he says twice that this person is cunning and insidious, and then, in principle, i do not include things where the russian leadership is ready there or military-political can make some such decisions that will be extremely dangerous, and here i am talking about the fate of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant in the context of preparations for our offensive, we are talking about the fact that the enemy is receiving troops there, and can
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provide mining and other dangerous measures there, and thereby put pressure on the west as a traditional element of such nuclear blackmail. does this mean that in as part of the preparation of our offensive actions, we must take into account the risks and importance of the e-e factor of the zaporizhzhia npp and whether our western partners are taken into account. and in general, your understanding of this object in the course of our offensive operations. a-a let's put it this way, it's an acute problem if you remember that literally two days ago , the mother presented her plan to ensure the safety of the zaporizhia npp and both sides and russia , the occupier, and ukraine, and the country that owns this station, but this station the occupied rejected this plan because it is, of course, from the point of view of ukraine
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, for example, it begins or can be the first step in legalizing the stay of russians at this station , and i completely understand the ukrainian side here , but for the russians, in principle, too. they have already included this territory in their sovereign constitutional territory, therefore, they also cannot go for it, and that is why the megate plan, which is again why is the mother indecisive in this plan, we mention again that the russian atom until now, outside of sanctions , the seedling continues the implementation of dozens of projects, including with our e-e western partners er for tens of billions of dollars of euros and
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therefore well, it is obvious that someone such of alternative solutions, i.e. not just a security plan, but the mother should immediately demand that the russian troops leave the dance - this is the only way to ensure the safety of this station, that is, the russian troops will leave. okay . if you think that this is impractical from the point of view of security, because the russians can start shelling the station to get there immediately ukrainian troops can be introduced into some group , e-e, for example, the osce or the un, it can be easily created quickly under the auspices of the magat and introduce some force components of the international community there whoever was there during the ukrainian offensive and other operations would ensure security, that is, there would be a neutral status for the time being if we talk about the military component, and this could become a solution to the problem. to act frankly, openly and clearly, as required by international law, because
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in fact the problem is very clear, there is an aggressor, there is a nuclear power plant, and the aggressor must leave, as it happened, for example, at the chornobyl npp. the option was passed precisely by gerasimov, i suspect that general zaluzhnyi is referring to this operation when the russians wanted to quickly act in february of the 22nd year to cut off the ukrainian possibilities of banning the capital and quickly about kyiv in three days and the chernobyl chernobyl station there i was in the area of operations at the time of the operation, so luckily, the operation didn’t work out. and now i think that after all, the international community will be forced to recognize russia as the aggressor of the zaporizhia npp officially and demand already
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san- demand with sanctions. let’s say no. simply with words, and with sanctions, with tough sanctions against russia, what about the withdrawal of russian troops from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, well, in any case, i understand that the issue is extremely difficult from the point of view of conducting hostilities, when at the heart of this potential offensive may be the nuclear facility here, in fact, each side is trying to use, well, all the possibilities to their advantage, it will be extremely difficult. as i understand it, and regardless of how our hostilities will continue, how will we go to the borders of our country, all the same later the issue of security guarantees arises, and at the same time, we are now talking about the beginning of such a new format of discussions regarding what ukraine needs most from the point of view of security guarantees, there is one version - this is joining the alliance, the second intermediate option is such a security guarantee from low countries, the third option that appears there is also certain contractual relations between the united states and ukraine, following the example
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of israel or japan or south korea, they are all different models in fact. and i would like to hear your vision of how will be to develop this process, what is optimal for ukraine and what will actually be realistically implemented in these conditions well, in my opinion, first of all, there is no alternative to nato, that is , nato is the only model that suits ukraine if we are talking about our security well, i think that for nato as well there is no other option. how to include ukraine finally in its security system of ensuring the defense of the members of this euro-atlantic security organization. that is why, in my opinion , nato is clearly convinced that there is no alternative for us now, specifically because is happening right now, that is, at the moment, we cannot be included in nato
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because we are in an active phase of the war with russia , and it is obvious that article 5 will require all members of the organization, that is, spain, the netherlands, hungary, and italy immediately include a war with russia and it is obvious that this development of events does not suit ukraine , the majority of nato countries, named and not named, i think he will not immediately agree to become a participant, he is also from russia, which in principle is official and the united states seems like yesterday the statement was made by one of the official representatives that one of the main goals of the united states was the support of ukraine. ukraine on the vinnytsia website to nato is obvious that it will
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be against the interests of the united states and most of the nato countries. yes, there is a country that is in favor of this, it is poland, the baltic countries , maybe romania, that is, our neighbors who they actually understand the danger from the development of events, that is, there are realities, there is no tradition, but on the other hand, nato will not accept us at the vinnytsia summit because it is against the interests of the majority of nato countries, which are exiting , and there are talks about security guarantees called the israeli option, again, the israeli option the option is interesting. but it seems to me that ours is already better than the israeli option, because the rammstein format is actually the same israeli option . provide military and technical support and financial support and organizational and train personnel, that is, any support other than direct participation or
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