[000:00:00;00] i was in the area of ​​action, then, of the operation, so fortunately, the operation didn’t work out, and now i think that the international community will be forced to recognize russia as the aggressor of the zaporizhia nuclear power plant officially and demand already san- demand sanctions let’s say yes, not just with words, but with sanctions, with tough sanctions against russia, what about the withdrawal of iros and the withdrawal of russian troops from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, well, in any case , i understand that the issue is extremely difficult from the point of view of conducting hostilities, when at the heart of this potential offensive may to be a nuclear facility here, in fact, each side is trying to use, well, all the possibilities to their advantage, it will be extremely difficult . as i understand it, and regardless of how our hostilities will continue, how quickly we will reach the borders of our country, all the same,

then the question of guarantees arises security and at the same time, we are now talking about the beginning of such a new format of discussions about what is most needed in ukraine from the point of view of guaranteeing security, there is one version - this is joining the alliance, the second intermediate option - this is a guarantee of security from low countries, the third option that appears there is also certain contractual relations between the united states and ukraine, following the example of israel or japan or south korea, they are all different models in fact. i would like to hear your vision of how this process will develop, what is optimal for ukraine and what will actually be realistically implemented in these conditions. well, in my opinion , first of all, there is no alternative to nato, that is , nato is the only model that suits ukraine if we are talking about our security well i think

that there is no other option for nato. how to finally include ukraine in its security system to ensure the defense of the members of this euro-atlantic security organization. that is why, in my opinion , nato is clearly convinced that there is no alternative for us now. what is happening at the moment, that is, at the moment, we cannot be included in nato , because we have an active phase with russia, and it is obvious that article 5 will demand from all members of the organization, that is, spain, the netherlands, hungary, etc. -e of italy immediately include a war with russia, and it is obvious that this development of events does not suit ukraine , the majority of nato countries, named and not named, i think that he will not immediately agree to become a participant, he is also from russia, which in principle is official and the united states, literally yesterday, it seems

that the statement was one of the official ones representatives that one of the main goals of the united states is the support of ukraine . therefore, if we now imagine the immediate inclusion of ukraine in the vinnytsia kindergarten into nato, it is obvious that it will be against the interests of the united states and the majority of nato countries. yes, there is a country that is in favor of this , it is poland, the baltic countries, maybe romania , that is, our neighbors who understand actually there is a danger from the development of events, that is, there is reality , there is no nato, but on the other hand, nato will not accept us at the vinnytsia summit because it is against the interests of the majority of nato countries , which exit, there are talks about security guarantees , the israeli option is called again

the israeli version is interesting, but it seems to me that we have it even better than the israeli version, because the rammstein format is actually the same israeli version . and the organizational and training personnel, well, that is, any support other than direct participation or direct participation, again, i repeat , it does not correspond to the interests of most ato countries, therefore ramber is the format of rammstein in principles are already the foundation of the security guarantee, if you look at what else can be added to these guarantees, i think that it is possible to sign declarations or sign agreements again, as i formulated for myself, the next task of ukraine at the next vilnius summit is to prevent

budapest-2 to prevent e bucharest-102 when we were announced in 2008 that we would be members of nato and then eh this all died and to prevent minsk 3 i.e. to actually prevent these attempts to freeze the conflict ot if these three tasks are carried out parentheses, what can be the solution? i think that the basis can be, in principle, the proposal of ukraine - it is the kyiv security kit , the so-called security kit, the elements that are already in place and the forms of rammstein are implemented and, in principle, in relations with nato, there is a difficult work, that is, we are already looking after, right here. by the way, and i forgot one more thing, it would be nice to include such

a standard phrase in the final declaration. strong signal political that we broke out of the trap of bucharest where we were simply promised because the start of negotiations on membership means that ukraine is already actually invited, but of course you can include the phrase that sufficient decisions on the inclusion of ukraine in nato will already be praised by consensus bearing in mind that when the active phase, he is with russia here, i say that uh, we are talking about victory , but it is obvious that russia can, for example, not sign the capitulation, we can expel their russians abroad, but russia, for example, will to self-isolate and refuse to pay us compensation, to sign the capitulation and to be declared war criminals, but this does not mean that we cannot join nato at this moment or the active phase will end, so i think that such a political signal can be launched in the declaration and then to create e-e in the platform due to the signing of some variants e-e of the kyiv security compact

, but in principle this is the situation, it is quite complicated, but unfortunately, e-e, this is reality, that is, we do not have a simple solution at the moment well, by the way, this concept of yours looks quite neat. i think that it will be implemented in a different way in the decision of the site of the meeting in vinnytsia, because in fact we are really talking about an extremely complex situation that must be multi-component and take into account today's moment of perspective and all the risks, mr. mykhailo , as always it was very interesting to listen to you . thank you for your inclusion in your profession and i would like to remind our viewers that mykhailo samustya, the head of the ancient organization nyugopolitik sirisoch netvok, was on the air of finanzpresso, and then we will talk about the existing risks for ukraine from russia with missile attacks, we will talk about it literally in a few minutes with our next guest, every day, every hour, every minute, we receive a large amount of information, how wagner is getting out of bakhmut, whether

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, the enemy uses modern cruise missiles air, sea and land-based, as well as iranian drones, and the statistics for may were impressive. during this month, the enemy used 500-66 means of impact, of which there were 185 missiles of various types and 381 unmanned aerial systems - this is the main thing, precisely these iranian martyrs, while the ukrainian proto-air defense forces were 90% of the total was destroyed, that’s exactly 154 missiles and 342 drones, and i will mention that when evaluating the effectiveness of this or that air defense system, if the actual destruction is carried out more than 60% targets, it is considered that such air defense is effective. now we are talking about the fact that the potential of ukrainian air defense is approaching 92-93 percent. we understand that this is mainly

based on the indicators of hostilities, primarily around the capital, because now the enemy is trying to direct most of its efforts to the capital where the multi-echelon air defense system is located, we know about the patriot complexes and other foreign models, in particular, the sams anti-aircraft defense complexes and the soviet models of the letter type and the s-300, which i will discuss further provide cover for certain areas from which the enemy can attack our capital, and here what is important is that these attacks on the capital during the last two weeks were quite revealing because the enemy used different strategies. we remember the option when 60 drones were launched. then there was a mix drones and cruise missiles. then there were ballistic missiles, then again, as it was on the night of the second of june, when unmanned

systems and cruise missiles were also used today, by the way , according to the general staff, because our anti-aircraft forces shot down 15 russian cruise missiles and 21 unmanned ones, that is, the enemy continues to attack the ukrainian capital, for some time i made the assumption that these attacks should actually decrease. cruise missiles , ballistic missiles and unmanned systems , which the enemy is now using in a concentrated manner against the capital to achieve several goals, these are, first of all , terrorist measures, the influence on e political the military leadership and our population, although this actually causes only irritation and anger and does not in any way affect the stability of our people. the second component is primarily

attempts to exhaust our air defense at the expense of a significant number of targets of various kinds. we remember these conclusions from the documents of the pentagon, what is there back in may, it seems that ukraine was supposed to run out of stocks of rockets for the buk complexes, there for the same ones for males, but we understand that when we talk about e-e complexes nasamb-1101, a transport plane can bring a missile to ukraine for such a number that, in principle, it will be enough to conduct hostilities for a month, and now we will talk in more detail about russia's strategy with our next guest , this is ihor romanenko, retired lieutenant general at one time, deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. general . i congratulate you. congratulations too oh, i would like to hear from you your vision of this tactic or strategy of the russian federation regarding such a large number of mass attacks, does it have a certain

limit, what goals does it pursue, what are your conclusions can you do as a military specialist who at one time was in principle responsible for the defense of kyiv by means of air defense, the enemy is trying to take some measures regarding the fact that, first of all, to reduce the potential of our future offensive counter-offensive actions in connection with the fact that the nearest time will end in the formation of the appropriate strategic reserve, and we also remember that in the east of our country, a strategic defense operation is being carried out, and the enemy is not stopping yet, and the task of this defensive operation is to stop the hmm advance and tactical

although it is small to destroy as much as possible the manpower of the enemy's armed vehicles and equipment, you must come to the defense, since it cannot significantly affect the land, it is transferred from the e-e air sphere and carries out the corresponding massed blows e-e, the number of which increases in intensity due to the fact that they save - accumulated the corresponding amount for more than a year, increased it by 30% somewhere according to different estimates of foreign sources for the production of modern high-precision missiles such as e-e iskander caliber well and air- based h1 k55 definitely this is carried out

pressure on, as they say in propaganda, the place of decision-making, which is clear that kyiv is the capital, from the point of view of the object, as a military-political center, an object of economic, social, and so on, and definitely they are trying to undermine the moral and psychological state of our citizens with price blows, and first of all, kyiv uses a set of tools for this, its tactics change, that is , a ballistic cruise missile is used, as well as unmanned lethal vehicles of the shock type. kamikaze character, i want to clarify, is it not surprising to you the fact that after a long pause

, the enemy began to actively use the iskander in the ballistic and nested version , because it is a rather scarce sample of weapons in the russian arsenal of the same hasto , there are much more of the first ones there and others there more missiles, but he started to use iskandyrs in batches. do you have an explanation as to why the russians began to bet on this type of weaponry right now, this is a good question from the point of view of how it is changing the tactics of use and what it is aimed at here, i would like to say that the use of unmanned aerial vehicles is still carried out in the old way, as a rule, at night you use the channels of the dnipro, eh, so you use our highways, roads, eh, and why. because at night , the probability of their destruction is less

i mocked the anti-aircraft defense personnel, because not all of them , for example , the crook, e. time and this, first of all, secondly, due to what is happening and the destruction of unmanned aerial vehicles, the enemy at this time is conducting intensive reconnaissance and space radio-technical electronic any to collect information about the location of our means of anti-aircraft defense , especially e- e hunting goes on of course on batteries of anti-aircraft missile systems e with anti-missile capabilities such as those of the petrov pact, the three latest modifications, as well as

the french italians, the mamba ones, and already here is the answer, why exactly by iskanders, because processing all information in a complex with knders, uh, they launched installations at the time of entering this information, the use of air-launched missiles is still there , for example, near murmansk, the planes must fly to the caspian sea anchorage area. there, for example , they will enter the relevant data, uh, if adjustments are needed, after that, the missiles will fly to ukraine and that's it. it takes hours, many hours, and iskanders can be done quickly, although again i agree with you that their number is reduced to less than the intact stock, and this is for seven categories

of missiles, that is, iskanders, calibers and air -launching missiles, and less football-like iskanders they are trying to use iskanders and cruise missiles. that is, this launcher can launch both, but their characteristics are different, that is, the advantages of iskanders are that they have ballistic territory, high speeds in the final sections of their territory, and uh, the advantages or qualities of cruise missiles are that they can be launched from one side , fly around the target and come in to strike from various other bikes, that they also try to act , that's why such an algorithm is being developed , the latest time of the use of missiles of various types

as well as unmanned aerial vehicles of the enemy, then explain to me one more story, because in fact we had two cases of the use of h400 complexes at the object in kyiv, and in january of this year , the general staff said that the s400 was used in kyiv, there were about 10 launches per according to our data, the launches of the s400 over kyiv were just in time and in december just in time for the new year holidays, and now the s400 and missiles from the potential of these missiles have for some reason fallen out of use on the russian side, the question arises why they do not use it or is it possible for them to are used, there are some nuances because the number of missiles up to 400 is much more than the reserves, in particular the same e-e and iskanders in one or another format. so, your vision is why the enemy does not use the h400 to strike the s400 - this is a very dangerous target

reworked in the e-mode e land, but more missiles from the s300 are there. well, they use it actively, but more than 5,000 s300, but the s400 can operate at a longer range in the land-land mode, up to 200 km. it is important, for example, now this was reports of the development of foreign sources regarding the fact that the russians are additionally transferring s400 in belarus . that is, it is to the north of their use in relation to ukraine and in relation to, for example, the capital with 400 less, they are modern and they keep them in

connection with the fact that it is necessary to cancel from from the point of view of which the flood defenses were developed, but they have a longer range and when they are used, a very short time, a flight, a vacation to the impression of the targets, and they can be destroyed as soon as possible by a5 such modern complexes as the patriot and the actions themselves, and there are manual modes, it was automated and automatic, and most likely it is not working automatically, that is, you need to know about these directions , but after development, it should already be turned on and unfolded, and as soon as everyone appears, the person does not have time, i am a service i don't have time for all this juice. i only work with you in automatic mode, so there are quite a lot of difficulties, but the capabilities of their ps4 are significantly less than s300, so you are worried -

they actually use it on the borders, but in the border part, for applying trees, unfortunately our civilian target is very much a terrorist one, and the s400, how did you notice it from uh, true , uh, well, not often, because they protect it. can we assume that the s400 missiles are the owner of a ballistic target, just like those zheskanders ? now we are reestablishing communication and we are talking about the fact that there are certain, shall we say, paradoxical things in the actions of the russian side , that is, because in fact there were examples of the use of 400 rockets in kiev. by the way, this range is about 200 km, and the enemy can launch these s400 missiles just from bryansk oblast and i wanted you, mr. general, to clarify whether this s400 missile is actually a ballistic

target in the same way as the uskander missile , in terms of football, any projectiles can be used to shoot, for example , populist territories. that is, they are like throwing a ball at an angle. 45°, but their ballistic missile feature is that they reach the maximum height somewhere on the target, then attack the salt at an angle of 4.90°, that is, it is not vertical and the speed is very high and they maneuver on the final section. by the way, iran is as if uh they are now announcing that they have actually finished the development of its prosonic missile , the speed of which will be more than that of the iskander and

more than that of the dagger, because the dagger, as we remember, is also an iskander missile, only launched from an airplane, and therefore the speed for this missile is added by calculate the speed of the plane and it reaches up to 12 mach there, that is , the speed and sound and skandyrovskaya is not hypersonic, there is no such possibility, and the missiles that they have now put new zircons on their first carab there in the north he has that means, accordingly, the speed is more than 5 mach and the iranians say that they have a speed of up to 15 mach, and this is an ibabalistic rocket of ideality. around a thousand plus or minus, you need to figure out where the advertising is. but there are just commercials where they they talk about the capabilities of their e-e missile with such extraordinary

e-sound characteristics, hypersonic, and when the general staff or the supporting force immediately informs the type of missiles the enemy uses to strike ukraine or us, on the basis of what conclusions are quickly made that there were all ballistic missiles there, in particular, there were three winged ones, look at the location , you yourself even gave a lot of answers to this one, that is, if they shoot with canders, then it is in the north-eastern direction and the trajectory of the location is exactly iskander moreover, iskandirs were launched and used as ballistic ones, we talked about different speed trajectories or winged launchers and skanda-m can also launch winged ones, they may have a longer range, but there maneuvering

can be carried out, so-called star strike at the target, that is, to launch several well, there are 5-10 cruise missiles that will simultaneously approach the object from different sides and to destroy them , it will be a great tension and it will be very difficult to work in such conditions, if this is tracked intelligence rises logical bombers from the north of russia among the roma, they will be introduced into the kaspi and there it will turn around, we know that the launches and then the descents of such rockets are exactly 101 h55 and so on , depending on which bombers take part in this and that 95 mms and up to 160 and here 22m3 here 22m3 if it rises venice as as a rule, they launch x22 and so on, that is, if it is from the south, it is cruise missiles, the caliber we see from the territory deviates, our various intelligence and

that of our allies shows that there were launches from the black sea area from missile ships from missile boats or from submarines, and therefore very preliminary and then and then and when the escort discovers all the targets , the escort specialists from anti-flood defense according to the characteristics of the advancement of these targets, where the objects are also er-er are detected and the salt is distinguished, a separate topic - this is an unmanned aerial vehicle the devices that they mean no less , critically surfaced, uh, i really wanted to thank you for your inclusion, for your experience, for your professional comments, i will remind our viewers that ihor romanenko, doctor of technical sciences, retired generator, citramon

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