[000:00:00;00] is now trying to fight the opposition under the guise of fighting against russian influence. actually, they say that this march will be very similar to what happened in ukraine during the orange revolution . now we are approaching nine o'clock and at 9:00 we will observe a minute of silence and remember all those ukrainians whose lives were cut short

by russian aggression. russia. we are continuing the search for three missing children from the vlasov family. we are talking about two brothers , dmytro and artem, and their sister, sofia. their aunt told me about the children's disappearance .

contact with her brother and nephew, the woman said that her relatives lived in the city of mariupol in a nine-story building at 61 kurchatova street and last contacted her the day before the start of a full-scale war and i don't know what happened to them i'm looking for viber and telegram i don't know, i don't know where i can find them, imagine for more than a year, mrs. olena, i don't know anything about the fate of my family , that's why i'm asking for help to find my relatives. this is her brother serhiy vlasov with his sons artem and dmytro. and here is a photo of their sister sofia's children raised only by the father because his wife died of a serious illness back in 2014 , little sofia was only two years old at the time and she suffered the loss of her mother very hard because of this and she still has certain psychological

disorders and problems with the development of the girl my mother speaks very badly, as if i think she can’t cry. sofia looks 10 years old now, and her brothers artem and dmytro are 12 and 14 years old . on the left in the photo, artem is in a green t-shirt and in the middle dmytro is in a gray blouse. let me remind you that the vlasov family lived in mariupol on kurchatova street 61 of their high-rise buildings survived the shelling. but the windows of the house were broken, so it is possible that during the bombings the father and the children were hiding in the basement. or somewhere in a bomb shelter and then maybe he moved somewhere. mrs. elena miraculously found out while she was in spain this woman even managed to get in touch with her acquaintance in mariupol. this woman said that

she saw the children whole and unharmed at the beginning of may last year. i saw them once in may, and they were all on some kind of bus. so, my friend elena from mariupol saw artem dmytro and sofiyka at the beginning of may. we don't know, my girlfriend doesn't know for sure either, we don't know where he is, what he is, i don't know what can happen, slimy slimy , i'm not worried about the baby. i understand that ukrainian tv channels are not broadcasting in mariupol at the moment, and maybe someone from the local area sees this program on social networks, so i'm asking if anyone knows where the children could have been taken, or if anyone knows where sofia dmytro and artem

or their father serhiy vlasov may be now, do not hesitate and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number 116,000 calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if there is no way to get in touch by phone, write to the chat bot of the child search service in telegram. i have another story of the disappearance of a child, also in mariupol, this is 14-year-old viktor khudoshyn , the last time the boy contacted connection until april 1, 2022, then he stayed in the city, the situation there was extremely tense , since then more than a year has passed, but there was no more news about the child. if suddenly someone saw viktor khudoshin, does he know where he is may be located now urgently dial from any mobile operator the short number of the magnolia child tracing service 116,000,000 calls to the hotline are free or write to the chat bot of the child tracing service in

telegram any information is important we have created a resource thanks to which you can report any - any crime against a child in any city at any time just go to the site and report and we will launch all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal stopkray.ua this means that we continue our conversation our marathon the final hour of the first our part today with andrii seichuk begins and it begins with jacob, a polish political scientist, journalist who appears on our airwaves, we say good day to him, yakub

, are we glad to see you or hear from us? the opposition march, what kind of march is it, why is it being organized and how many people are expected to attend it? good afternoon, you see, i will speak in russian about this, what about me, if i start in ukrainian , it will be a humorous program. what do i speak in russian and with the dying admiring folklore, the opposition march, er, march, how does the opposition march, does the opposition use historical dates to gather people to death? well, actually, how is the government? we have all political forces have their own marches on day of independence on november 11. on the second of the fourth june, that is, on the anniversary

of the first partially free elections in 1989 , the date itself is very interesting because the elections were consoling, interesting, the communists made them so in order to preserve the regime and in the end, after these elections, they lost power there, there was an interesting historical process, but that’s not the point, it’s that now any date is used to gather people around something, the opposition naturally gathers people around the slogan ok, the problem is that the political struggle goes beyond a certain public consensus. for many years, there was a consensus in poland on the subject of several

, er, several issues. values ​​in general are soft, and the western concert today, the political struggle breathes outside the framework of this consensus, and this is the main danger , that is, uh, the political struggle between the current government and the current opposition is discussed, it affects emojis that were considered with a certain national consensus , that were considered outside of the political struggle, uh poland is increasingly divided into two dense societies, increasingly hostile to each other , and in this case, such moments, such marches , when people are physically present on the street , there is a threat of physical collision, people and friends with friends, they become something dangerous because they hate each other in society, if people who hate each other are physically friends with each other, then

this can turn into something dangerous, and i watch it with great regret. but this unfortunately, this is the reality of our days, after all, everything is different, mr. yakubovych, is there an alternative in the opposition? well, let's say an alternative, i do. as far as i understand, this is connected with the new law, which theoretically gives the opportunity, for example, to remove opposition politicians from election races, and the opposition believes that this may be directed in particular against the polish opposition of donald tusk, personally, they will lose their electoral rights eh, hm, from my point of view, the level of eh, russian influence in poland is the lowest, and in all countries, not only central eastern europe, but in general in europe, such a commission should have been created in any european country, because

you yourself know very well what level and nature of russian russian influence in different countries of europe. strategic and so on . you know. we had such a commission, and it would have to recommend two tank divisions, and it would have a lot of work . of the second reason, and on the other hand, russian influence, even though it was low in poland, it was and it is still there. here are all these sleeping russians. they are in poland. i can even try to guess who it is. and that's why

in order not to guess so that we do not accuse each other of who is a russian spy , such a commission in my opinion is necessary from my point of view if it is necessary to solve this diabolical alternative use it to get rid of russian influence or russian agents i am in favor if necessary to sacrifice democracy a little bit so that we don't have russian spies, i, as a citizen of poland, am for the majority of our constituencies , the majority of our parliament is also for it, maybe this is a precedent, and in fact , there is no such thing in the constitution the situation will agree, too, because of the usual, any russian influence among our officials, our politicians, our parliamentarians can now turn into , well, in general, part of the confidence or part of the territory, but they will explain to me in ukraine how dangerous it is, where it is already taking place, and understand what it all can do

it will end if you are in the government and not in the parliament russian agent therefore in this case eh i as a citizen of the council that such a commission will eh another question will eh work i hope everything is in accordance with european and democratic norms that it will not turn into some instrument of persecution, but on the other hand, if there are serious doubts that someone worked for russia or someone took money from the russians , then this person is this person. must leave politics forever, this is the criterion that must work today, ah, uh, absolutely clearly black and white , he was a conductor of russian influence, so you have no place in polish politics. even if

it is not very democratic, there are politicians in poland who wanted the russian peace or somehow wanted to get some benefit from russia, officially no, that is, we did not have ideological agents of russia and we do not, well, you understand from our history with our historical experience , that is, with the section on the war with the fact of hitler, stalin, the cattlemen, well, no, yes there are people who love russia ideologically, so there are none, every family in our country suffered from russia in that telenoy forward, but there are people who love money is a corruption component a-a and there is compromise, you know , agents er-er often recruit here or on dialoguy either for money or for kompromat or for ego and here is kompromat ego money these are the factors that russia over

the last few years has used to recruit agents in poland, including large ones an investigative commission is due, but we know very strange decisions at the level of ministers and vice-prime ministers, for example, on russian gas . it is very strange that the contracts that obliged us for very large amounts of money, so that you understand, it is a third higher than what was paid germany will buy russian gas there in the future for 25 years, very strange contracts considering the state of the market and price changes on the market , that is, we pay a lot, we are obliged to buy gas for 25 years ahead, regardless of how much it will cost. well, in general, the contract fortunately, thanks to you, these contracts are no longer valid in ukraine

, that is, due to the usual situation, this russian gas is no longer coming to us under such conditions, but such things were, and in my opinion , the task of the commissions is to find out who and in what way made these decisions again at the level of even the prime ministers, mr. what would you say about today's action or any other actions that are being held in poland that there may be clashes because society is very divided , polarized, actually divided according to what values ​​one group is against another we very much dream in ukraine that our time will come and poland seems to us to be such a model here when the country will be more or less monoy hmm let's say that a political nation will also have

certain external signs language is about the same religion as you and what we think would help our country and we see that there is a good example in poland, but at the same time we see that it is possible to be a pole , speak polish, go to the same church, but have completely different political views and, most importantly, views on the future of poland, you can simply explain this situation for ukrainians, dear dear friends , focus on yourself, on your history, your identity, eh, your values, on your own, on ukrainian, a-a, of course, i love poland very much but from the point of view of the political system, from the point of view of the peacefulness of society, from the point of view of ideological unity, it is far from better, and the fact that it is possible to orientate ourselves is very chaotic .

polish politics is conducted today exactly as the polish nobility behaved in relation to the cossacks in the 17th century . it is clear to you that such an upper hand is such a person who thinks only about himself, about no one else, chaos, selfishness, and the lack of a prospective vision. unfortunately, all this is in our political culture , and i don’t know when it will end . then this is a division into pro-european a-a m-m liberal poland western poland i.e. big cities and such a conservative traditional religious poland b as they say i.e. well mostly villages and small

cities, although this is also simplified now the political aspect of the conflict is either those who are for a european federation, that is, for dissolving poland in some kind of centralized european union with the government in brussels, and from the other side, who is for a sovereign poland that even donates european money but for that very reason in warsaw he makes a decision about his fate and naturally both of them accuse each other of being behind a-a in general they are russian agents because they believe that brussels is a full russian agent so that in general they are not either far away от истины а другие they say that if we don't go together with the european union and don't dissolve in this european union , it means unity that we will be left with this mmm russian alternative, here i am of the second opinion i can be an idealist can

be uh i look too optimistically into the future, but i think that there is an alternative, is it possible to have ukraine? well, for this alternative , it is imperative that ukraine and belarus enter the european union as soon as possible. will form a coalition so that this european union does not turn into a centralized federal monster like this , that is, into the soviet union-2 if there are states within the union that like it and do not have their own sovereignty, then this will be possible because now unfortunately, the section within the european union is in the direction of the federalist in the direction of those who want a centralized centralized united

states and the euro there are those who want to remain in the european union instead of remaining there as a sovereign state. this is how it is possible to accept ukraine there as soon as possible, because both you and we did not drive the russians out of the country for that reason; well, this position looks pragmatic and we are glad that we have common interests, because our interests are , of course, to join the golden billion and to join the club where there is democracy, the education of the law, and so on. human rights are important not only for members because, well, becoming a member of the european union again is a very dangerous tendency of the center , federalization, that is, the loss of sovereignty of national states, this is not necessary

for this club. so the faster you enter, the better it will be for everyone just for you, what? thank you for this conversation . thank you like chickens, because a polish political scientist , journalists, was in touch with us and told us about what and how poland is living today. er in the laws that the current government is trying to implement, as if in a struggle with russian agents in power. we will continue our conversation. but after a short pause, you want to wake up rested and full of strength , but from the old mattress. you need to improve your

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that they don't talk in the first place anyway war is coming, war and our victory only on espresso from monday to monday completely different spheres of human activity sports politics military analytics six presenters journalists experts opinion leaders in real time about the most relevant events through the prism of war in author's projects on espresso what about friends and let's continue our marathon volodymyr mayan, politician, diplomat, minister of infrastructure of ukraine, serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, he is in touch with us , he is already appearing on our airwaves. i actually read your column, which recently appeared on our espresso website, is the ukrainian elite ready to

move to the european union, and i know , i would like to say that i thought that we are leaving now , president zelensky has already said that ukraine will be ready for a counteroffensive we proceed from such usual cautious pessimistic forecasts and so on, and it is absolutely correct, but if you imagine the opposite that the offensive will be tomorrow and it will be incredibly successful, simply the russian colossus turned out to be on clay feet and all the data was sprinkled drala came in, put a flag over sevastopom , just imagine. okay, russia, i don’t know, it got stuck, they got a lot of problems. what is our level of reforms , what is our recovery

, what is our corruption, what are we doing on the second day? sorry pretty fantastic and to victory is very far away, especially when the president says that we are ready for a counteroffensive of this decision, an offensive at the same time , the representative of the bank office claims that not everything is ready. i mean the article in the string journal that was published, mr. yolk literally yesterday ago, i think here a discussion about readiness is appropriate and we really hope that this offensive will cost us the minimum number of dead because this is a war and people are dying here every day about readiness after the war eh, at the very least, a professional discussion is extremely necessary as to how and with what resources we can to do, because at the moment there are enough problems with this. obviously, we do not have a national plan for the reconstruction of ukraine, the construction of a new country, we do not have any vision, in what way, with

which projects, with which investors. we want to do it. the public discussion was not organized as it was, not as it was in paris, when something was brought, they told me and said that it was okay and it was not okay. now, on the 20th of this month, we will have a big conference in london. i would i would very much like ukrainian officials to explain to the ukrainian people before this conference what the three geras of economic development will be, where are the main priorities of our economic policy, because this is important for ukrainians in order for them to plan their return to ukraine and to do something in the same way to the western world, which would like to rebuild a united ukraine, because he finally understands that the concept of a gray zone or neutral territory has survived only ukraine , which is a strong economy, a completely mature

democracy, can be a reliable outpost of western europe in the east and here we still have quite significant gaps, because what the government is currently presenting is actually about vaccinations, unfortunately, you don’t know anything. e.e. this mr. keeper headed, for example, odeshchyna and e.e.e. this person who in principle should have been investigated if it was the decision of the oasis, well, this is just one of the examples a-a and the story that also continues to go on , for example, in chernihiv, where the mayor was suspended by the decision of the court of the lviv region for well, it is obvious that the decision is very strange and now the secretary of the city council, who is now the mayor, has given an interview and they say

that they are also pressuring him to do the same, so that he should give up representing the city, i.e. there are some such unpleasant bells and they seem like they exist for example there and they can be said about them maybe somewhere else but in general they are not on the agenda and the country does not talk about it and even there i do not know on ukrainian pravda serhiy dubenyanskyi their permanent author historian and sometimes i don’t agree with him sometimes i can’t even finish reading his publications when he tries to somehow defend the rights of the russian world in ukraine or the remnants of those rights but he wrote a good article where he compared and made analogies i think between present-day kyiv and paris during the first world war, there are particular memories, it seems, of lyrinburg, which says that cleman was sponsored there and so