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[000:00:00;00] let's watch, that is, the archangel well, not the vytykansky one, but the one who is somewhere on the slando hill, let's listen to what the boy says as he apologizes. are we enough of him ? i'm sorry, let's listen. in a public place, and i apologize to the residents of lviv. well, we need to talk about lviv 's little things. well, we won't do anything. it's a little bit, and it will be cooked without mistakes. gentlemen , let's move. next, svyatoslav pavlyuk is already with us.
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he is the executive director of the association of inefficient cities of ukraine, an express question of energy efficiency, mr. staslav. good day. good day, mr. svetto slava. the tariff for electricity for the population has increased, now 2 hryvnias and 64 kopecks. would it be possible for us to do without this price increase despite everything and for the love of the government there to the ministry of energy i i wouldn’t call it an increase in electricity prices, an increase in the tariff for the population, it’s more likely when the truth is revealed , the partial truth, how much it actually costs , because in fact the cost of a kilowatt-hour of it significantly higher and since it has been subsidized for decades by other participants in the electricity market, people have a completely distorted understanding of what it really costs, because if you show how much other market participants pay extra for this electricity every year, the population would
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have a completely different picture and completely different behavior of consumers and the installation of all electric fuel boilers, etc., etc. therefore, this is not an increase, this is partly a discovery of the truth about the real situation on the electricity market, but they are increasing electricity, meanwhile, as for gas, for example, the situation remains unchanged. i understand that until the end of the war ah-ah-ah. well, yes, there is a difference , let’s say because we have gas, well, relatively speaking , due to the fact that our gas consumption has decreased in general by about a third the gas that we have is produced in the country physically enough to live again in order to heat the population and give this gas to cook food, this means that we will not have money to invest in the development of new
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deposits where that is most likely but this means that we can get by with the gas that is physically extracted on the territory of ukraine and we have already made the main investments for drilled wells and this gas is already somehow going there, we will not be able to postpone it, we will not be able to make new wells but nevertheless, it is a little different in terms of electricity the situation is because we need to buy nuclear fuel , we need to bury coal, we need to update electricity transmission systems, which were significantly regulated by we have had a lot of problems in the power plant and in the hydro plant and in the thermal power plants, so money is needed in order to rebuild it earlier, well, you understand, gas, in principle, is the income of the state gas company nak naftogaz of ukraine, they went to the budget, that is, they supported the revenue part of the budget, and this money was used to finance the same army, the same social expenses in part
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in the electricity market, the situation is a little different, because there, if you simplify it very much, industry and not household consumers pay more in order for household consumers to get cheaper . that is, this is an absolutely created situation when it there is a tax on budgetary institutions and a tax on our industry de facto like this. this is how it looks in view of the military actions, the industry sharply reduced the consumption of electricity, i.e. in general, we lost somewhere around a third of the electricity market . in my understanding, how did any of these cross-sector subsidies , subsidies, they became much less, and it is simply impossible to maintain the market financially
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, the situation of market electricity was tragic and before the start of the war, it really was tragic, this is the issue of the complete emasculation of the cash flows of the ukrenergo hydroenergy nuclear power plant, the three main state companies. this was already a problem with the war , it only made the whole picture more complicated. if i , if we have time, i don't know how much time the cost of electricity for the e-e population , so the tariff includes four components, only four electricity as a commodity, the second is the transmission of the e-e highway system. this is where ukrenergo is responsible now, the third component - this is a distribution network that is owned by oblenergo, and the tariff is small for supply, and tax and vat are included, that’s all. so, if you look at the cost of each of the components , if we take hryvnia 68, the cost was
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or hryvnia 44 kw for the population, then there, then, it includes the tariff for transport on the main transmission system. it is about 30 kopecks, the tariff for e-e distribution networks is about 20 hryvnias, the tariff for supply is there , and i am afraid to lie, about 15 kopecks, and before that add vat. that is, we actually end up in a situation where all these components plus vat are the cost of the cost of a kilowatt-hour , that is, the population did not pay for electricity , the population paid only for its delivery, but the energy had nowhere to come from, and it came from somewhere. one is born in the power transmission line, that's why the situation is, and those household consumers who paid 44 hryvnias, they actually received there -15 kopecks, the cost of electricity is different, in fact, ukrenergo had to find money to pay them
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extra for their consumption, so-and-so, for by him the picture slava is asked by a viewer during our broadcast here and what should the population do that is not gasified and heated by electricity, and here we begin the most interesting part, and because the government and all the previous governments also deliberately lied to people about the different cost of this energy resource, which created completely completely different and false motivations and false indicators for people's decision-making , i will remind you of prime minister yatsenyuk, who urged everyone to switch to electric heating, do you remember july 14, you remember well, ok belief belief on the word that's why people, when taking into account the cost of electricity in them, will be 90 kopecks, and a kilowatt-hour generated from gas was much more expensive, accordingly , entire cities switched to electric heating and entire cities will now face the fact that , in fact, electricity is the most expensive type, but
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energy because well, that's how electricity is made up, it's the most expensive form of manners, it's even very convenient, it's easily transmitted, it has small losses, and so on , that's why people made such a decision, they invested money. yes, i can sympathize with them, but ok what about the subsidy will be enough for everyone in your opinion, what kind of subsidies should there be, how much is this two-fold increase in tariffs now, it will not be an increase for, for example , pensioners who have 3,000 pensions, it is not final, this is an increase in cost, because if we look at the energy exchange, then there, the cost of electricity fluctuates between 3.80 and 5:20 there at different times, this is the cost of electricity not delivered to the consumer, and to it it still needs to be delivered, add this delivery , that is, you should expect somewhere, well, the market and the cost of electricity in kilowatt-hours for the population somewhere, in my opinion, somewhere outside uah 5. that is, this
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is what we need to prepare for. at the same time, we have a different situation when we now have a surplus of electricity from the sun, so it is, and with gigawatt volumes, operators are stopping the distribution of the network because that we don't have anywhere to give out. if you look at the cost of electricity now in germany, for example, on sunny days, it is negative in the great big zone of germany , france, luxembourg, there is a huge market , huge consumption. it is negative, just its has nowhere to give out, that is, electricity. it has the property of having a different price, if we are especially talking about renewable energy, which we are going to, it is the sun, the wind, there is the sun, there is no sun, there is wind, there is no wind , the electricity will cost differently . to keep electricity there at zero, paying for its delivery, for example , such a situation may occur, but this means that the way of our consumption will change
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. we can consume electricity at half the tariff, in many cities everything is the same as a cruise - you have to give out and not heat the river, now the situation will change in such a way that we have this cheap energy in the summer, for example, when it will work a lot of sun solar power plants in the summer will be cheap during the day and at night it will be expensive that is, this consumption profile will be different, but due to the fact that there is a different cost, it includes different players and different capabilities of different suppliers, and we will include bio biogas stations when will work in the e-e mode of gas supply for some small local energy generating capacities and i apologize and returning to the subsidies that should be asked and tariffs have never been an instrument of social policy in a normal country they are never an instrument of social policy of an insuval social policy are subsidies if the market
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, which will work, will generate a financial flow from which the tax will be calculated, then those who are low-income should receive this and this money from the state in order to buy this energy on the market and not to mortgage it to someone. and let's go there , you scoundrels, generate a lot of electricity . take it for half the price of the population. them funds so that they can buy, but not intervene in the market, because only when the market will work , we have solar energy, which is blocked now because there is no where to give it, and it is a situation when the dispatchers give the command for the shutdown of huge arrays of solar power plants, but nevertheless they are paid as if they were issuing because the system simply
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cannot receive, but the law says that even their stoppage must be paid, then in that situation they know the technical solutions for how to accumulate this solar electricity, for example, and issue it in system then we will have the stimulus of hydro-accumulating stations eh, but the economy , you can't mix the economy, social assistance, these are two different things, we are always trying, the government is always trying to be mining at someone's expense, we have literally three minutes left. i have two questions. how many questions do you have? one, start well, it's not final until december 31 , this price is fixed at 2 hryvnias, 64 kopecks, and then what will be the price increase again when we
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those 5 hryvnias . why not seven and why is it 50 pennies, that is, how can such decisions be made to the cabinet of ministers without justification, without an explanation from an uninformed company. how can it be like this at all, that's why i don't know how it will be, that is, if the members of the cabinet of ministers are not given this decision in advance at the meeting of the cabinet of ministers, and the minister makes such a decision by voice in violation of all procedures, the rules are normal, and so on, and so on. well, here i am, how can i comment on this ? not to order prices to be cheaper, to reduce them, to stop there, and so on. what is the problem with the fact that there is a state regulation of tariffs ? well, that is, how can we use the example of these oblenergos . by the way, this is a question of what to do with those oblenergos. we saw that
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searches are currently taking place in oblenergo who belonged to the firts that we know that part of oblenergo belonged to the russians there in general, and part belongs to akhmetov , and i don’t know if the cladding is happening or not , how could they steal money from these oblenergos using exactly those stories fixed tariffs that do not correspond to the team. well, it seems to me that i, i know about the searches of oblgazakh, neoblenergo, that is, i don't know about oblenergo, i just don't know. it's avangaz for sure. i already know, dad, so i'm sorry , i'm probably wrong here, well, it's for a long time, it's not for a minute yes, that is, we will stop this question, let's just say that there is no market, there is corruption . and i, then, and there is no fair competition, which is possible even worse than corruption , mr. svyatoslav, then there is a moment left for people
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who are preparing for an unprecedentedly difficult winter bought two 5 ecoflow diesel generators and 124 of these batteries and now they think they are ours, they bought everything, what do you tell them, the summer is hot ahead, but i will tell those who did not buy them, do not relax, because our electricity transmission and distribution system came out of this heating season from this in the winter, it is in a completely weakened state and it is holding on to snot . i would say yes yes, that is, by the efforts of the energy engineers with the use of all possible reserves of old amateurs, old insulators and so on, plus what the western partners gave us but these are huge amounts of equipment. we have passed this disgraceful season, but this means that internal resources have been completely exhausted, and that our neighbors will continue to do this and will continue to attack the power system.
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generator inverters, it fell three times, just don't start buying them in october, when they will go uphill again. and buy them now, when they really cost a third of the price that was in november and december of last year don't relax, thank you for viewing, e-mail svyatoslav pavlyuk, executive director of the association of inefficient cities of ukraine, an expert on energy efficiency was with us, there were still questions, you know, but if you bought a diesel, do you think we have a generator there, that i bought it for myself, or do you have this battery there won’t be a charging station, they haven’t stopped the war and we haven’t won yet, diesel generators will certainly need 40,000 . and now he sees it for 15 and is probably biting his elbows a little, or
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at least they are trying to. it is necessary to prepare on time, dear friends , it continues and we will be back very very soon, stay with us, it can be an obstacle to walk up the stairs, not with my knees from pain in the knees. joints, it is ukraine with ballistic missiles that the individual wants to achieve by shelling civilian objects, is the drone attack in russia part of the ukrainian counteroffensive, but the ukrainian authorities are forcibly taking land from citizens for to hand it over to polish mercenaries well, a third of the stockpile of missiles for the patriot system was destroyed in ukraine, we debunk this and other
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june 5 on weekdays at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 a.m. a house with children is a bazaar and a wasteland without children june 4 is a day to honor the memory of children who died as a result of the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine and now we will talk about international politics and ukraine in it international columnist candidate of historical sciences yehor brailyan is in touch with us, we say to him good day, hello well, let's start with the meetings in moldova , if you don't mind . so would it was a very important meeting, because we saw the unity of europe, the european union, and ultimately what was proposed in
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october. last year, macron, the president of france , is certainly another platform for coordinating actions. it works, and zelenskyi met with most european leaders and also during this meeting, the associative mission of the european union in moldova was opened to counter hybrid threats, and the european union once again emphasized with this that the republic of moldova is also important and another candidate besides ukraine's accession to the eu and that the security of moldova is directly related to the security of ukraine and that the west will continue to support that until then, let's say , they looked at their own as different tracks. and now they already understand that russian aggression -
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this is about the security of the entire region, not just ukraine or moldova. i would also like to remind you that olafsholz, the chancellor of germany, got into a difficult situation when speaking to voters in one of the german cities they ended up there about a hundred so-called pacifists who started chanting that they say it is necessary to stop distributing arms to ukraine and incite, uh, incite a war, to which something is extremely emotional for them to be very characteristic and reacted in two words: he called putin himself the instigator of the war, called him a murderer, in fact, who kills the civilian population so he said that if you were old enough, you would understand who i am, the real instigator of the war
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, well, in a word, well, at least for scholz , there is a huge progress in the past year. this is true, but not for all germans, as i see. just before the broadcast, i saw this video on twitter and it immediately became very viral. and this once again shows that germany has really radically changed, you know, from mainz, that is, such an idea about russia and ukraine that for them russia is already an imperial country that commits military aggression, war crimes. that is, this is not the germany that at one time contributed to the clinical ceiling of 1:2 and many other moments. that is, we really saw that the policy of germany has changed by 180°, but it is
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still there. here is this group of pacifists, these are people who instigated by russia, this is the russian community. are they really germans, true germans, who are good for everything, for everything good for peace, the doves of peace do not fly any war. the war is because we give weapons, so they think. i think it is all together. because on the one hand we have a significant russian diaspora that left after the collapse of the soviet union because of the holocaust payments there in many other moments . that's why it all gets into the media in one way or another, and then these ideas poison low-level people. she also wanted to show a photo from berlin. journalist darka horova, who
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ended up as a refugee in berlin, now works there as a journalist, said that in principle, ukraine suits berlin, well, here it is, for sure the central part, and we can see the blue and yellow flags, and germany has made such a cardinal turn in this year , its policy has changed, and iola has changed to scholz, well, we just want all 100% germans to be on our side sides and by the way, about the germans not about the germans, but about another leader, about macron, a well-known polish politician and a diplomat, and now or there in the european parliament, jacyk sariosh volskyi, who is known for his sometimes undiplomatic rhetoric, accused macron of being, so to speak, a master of telling sweet lies and that in fact macron really hopes that ukraine will trade the actually captured lands in exchange for peace and
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will incline it to such a finale of this russian aggression . differs even from scholze and it is becoming so obvious in europe, of course, that french foreign policy is defined by macron, who is seen by charles divolan, we would like to remind you that charles de gaulle when he was when he created the fifth republic in the late fifties, he positioned itself as such a third force between the usa and the soviet union, and now macron's france wants to be so in the middle between the usa and china, and therefore , let's say, macron is promoting the idea of this strategic autonomy of europe, which is possible . let's reduce american influence but at the same time, the situation is changing, and such
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a more autonomous foreign policy of france has existed in one way or another since the days of de gaulle, and therefore macron did not invent something new here, but france, too, has quite radically changed its views on russia and ukraine. i would like to remind you that france has already provided us with light tanks and france provides us with military humanitarian aid as financial support precisely during the french presidency in the eu. ukraine received candidate status in june of last year, and france did the same
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supports ukraine in one way or another, so if the changes are just as significant . but it is true in terms of germany that it really is one of the leaders in providing military aid to ukraine . peace is needed, because ukraine is suffering, children are dying, and there was a shot showing a map of ukraine, crimea was not on that map, although hungary seems to officially disagree with the fact that crimea is russian territory after ukraine announced that march corrected this ordinary map that the truth is that the old version of this video still remains on the website of the hungarian government ah hmm and in the meantime there was also news that hungary said that it would not give up russian gas and oil, so it remains. here is the corrected one. things, the map has already been sent back to crimea to ukraine well, but still not everything has been fixed, actually, these attempts to freeze ukraine and these attempts to be left with
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cheap russian gas and oil again, we have this hungary by our side, what are we going to do with it all the time she some such makes such blunders well first of all, definitely work with opposition politicians. i remember when at the beginning of november last year in lviv there was the second ukrainian central european forum from the ukrainian perspective of one of the leading ukrainian energy centers , there was also an opposition politician from hungary, he emphasized that despite viktor horb's position as prime minister of hungary , hungarians and at such an everyday level provided humanitarian aid to ukrainians who left the country due to the war after february
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last year and that indeed orbán's position cannot be explained in any rational way, for example, he reminded that on the anniversary just then it was just after the anniversary of the suppression of the hungarian revolution of 1956, orbán said at an official event that it was they who suppressed the guest revolution, but this moscow suppressed the hungarian revolution, not some mythical martian or alien, and therefore this issue can be resolved only after the next elections in hungary, in my opinion , and a little bit about the flat country land, too. and we'll touch on it, if you don't mind, uh, uh, uh, i want to draw your attention to the fact that recently such things have appeared in russia that even british intelligence drew attention to, for example , when some discourses began to appear on russian tv channels, which very recently
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appeared to be completely unrealistic, we are talking about direct criticism of putin, at first some oppositionist on some central channel said that it would be good not to elect putin next time and that will solve many problems and now we just text putin uh, no, no, it’s nice to say so in russian, uh, zatulin is speaking out one of the leading russian politicians , a member of the state duma, we can even listen to this fragment where he directly accuses putin of the fact that he bet on yanukovych and let russia drag uh into the war, as he says, for the lpr, the dpr, and now we can neither win nor get out of it, and all we have to do is putin, well, we are listening to the end of the world. which as we understand it we respect vladimir vladimirovich putin, you
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