[000:00:00;00] now i have already actively passed the first reading, in principle we understand that money is needed , including money needed for the war and 2% - it was more of an emotional decision and it did not get wide spread even among fops and in most cases it was far from the most simple, not the most poor fops, and the fact that salary fops have appeared, which after two percent are simply cash. but on the other hand, this is not scary, not the transfer to 5% is scary because in that draft law, a re-transfer of checks is laid down. and what were canceled during the war

. well, knowing the perfection of our tax officials, there is no guarantee that it will not be used later to make business a nightmare once again. already without me there was someone to ask, you know how and when i start asking for peignoirs, the people did not understand the look at me. and you are an old man, this is relevant for you, yes, and somehow you know, men in women's clothes are never for me. well, they were not interesting, yes well, that's not the reason. i'm because there is someone there without me to ask questions, and most likely it was to a certain extent such a probing of the situation, but after seeing what the reaction was, you remember there, marchenko said that everything is not so and so it wasn't and he didn't say that, by the way, this is one of our functions, not only yours, as journalists , control over the activities of the authorities, and just as ours as a business association, which very carefully looks at what the authorities are thinking and we enter into a discussion, we criticize many things that are not brought to the general public audience because we have a lot of them

there will be another meeting of such working meetings this month with dmytro natalukha and olena shulyak as the head of the committee as the leader of the ruling party, and we discuss and discuss a lot of issues and a lot of things are filmed. do you remember last year there was such an idea of ​​a tax on the purchase of currency? well then that it was senseless was nipped in the bud, and even now with these taxes on the penuarch, in reality , this issue is much more important for us, the tax issues of customs and the issue of the road to economic security . we do not want to conduct a general discussion such as it does something else, our colleagues there, it is their right and it is good that we have such discussions. this means that we have a civil society that discusses among themselves with the government , i discuss, it will be worse, there were no discussions at all. everyone raised their hand and went to discuss it, it's good, they deal with more such strategic things, we believe that the expensive saving of security should be one of the tools that will make it possible

to create a transparent competitive business because we are primarily interested in the fact that it worked effectively. you know melnyk, the previous head of the economic security bureau, when he was appointed, we had a meeting with him and gave him a list of 10 positions where the business operates illegally, these included cigarettes and household appliances and alcohol, that is, in principle everyone who knows who where he promised shook his head and practically did nothing, and meanwhile we are interested in this because when someone has preferences someone works in the black, then he inflames the one who works in the white so that we have something to discuss and i have something to talk about, but you are on the tests, for example, right now in warsaw, you see it on your screens for our viewers. well, for you too, mr. mykhailo, this is warsaw, and there is now the biggest

march of the polish opposition poles taking place there in 30 years do not agree with what they are trying to do under the guise of fighting against russian influence, fighting the opposition to the current government, and many polish journalists we know are now at this protest together with their children, also following the situation in poland, it is important to us as a country that supports us, a country that we are focusing on in our path to european integration, and i am here, there will be parliamentary elections in the fall. don't forget that poland is very important and an interesting story for us. we also talk about something with our ukrainian-polish colleagues, that's what the chamber is called, and there really aren't

simple processes going on there, and a lot of these problems were related to impot and ukrainian grain. then neither are you were politicized and many of these moments were artificially politicized, including the opposition in some moments politicized ahead of the day of the parliamentary elections, that is why there is , on the one hand, friendly relations with us, but irreconcilable internal struggle politically for power, no one acted anywhere, no one canceled anywhere, that is why for us, this is very important, very relevant, when we talk about the future security of ukraine, we also certainly understand that it is possible to be a country like north korea, which provides a huge mobilization where there is dictatorship and a lot of weapons or such russia and so on, otherwise we should pay attention to the fact that ukraine is smaller than russia, well, relatively speaking, four times, yes, if you take the population, but

our difference, if you evaluate the gross domestic product, is 14 times, that is, once again in our country gdp is 14 times less than that of the russian federation, how in principle should we treat such macroeconomic figures , again recalling poland , which is roughly equal to ukraine in terms of population. that is, what should be the growth of the economy in order for us to be safe in the next 10 years, because we must understand that a powerful army can only be in that country, which has a powerful economy, we have a super task, if we want to survive, we need 500 percent to increase the gdp literally in a few years to do it well, as she asks how to achieve this we have a great

regret or great happiness here there is no question of discussion like russia gas oil forests and rare earth metals gold diamonds and everything else thanks to which they are going as cheesy economy, but you know, that’s also such an interesting observation. all the years of independence, we were told that russia ’s gdp is more than russia’s, pensions are higher in russia , salaries are better for earnings. here is all the rest of russia, which later came to ukraine , took toilets and worn underpants with them here , you know, you have to approach this from the point of view, there are figures we are talking about and there are real incomes of the population, real incomes of that elite which takes these surplus profits for itself and the broad masses tells that we need to suffer in relation to that, we need to embroider, well, andrii is absolutely

right, he did not open america, as they say , in order to have more of you with such a neighbor, you need to have a militarized economy and you need to have a strong, good, you need to have the latest technologies what would provide you and me with a peaceful sleep, and what is a peaceful sleep? we already know, especially in the last week in kyiv, that for this we need to have conditions that are a thousand times better than in poland than in europe in order to an investor came here, how can an investor go to ukraine when he does not have a guaranteed ownership right, this is one of the cornerstone rights without which not a single serious investor, not a single program , will work. everything was rushed. now we have it. i will speak at this forum on the 7th and talk about customs, but er. about three weeks ago, we had

a meeting of the mayor with yaroslav zheleznyak, the first the deputy head of the finance committee was just discussing customs with him, but he also once again expressed the thesis that it is necessary to recruit a team of honest, non-corruptible professionals who will give them a decent salary there, who will change everything and redo everything, and everything will be fine in customs, well, i do not agree you know, after all, we have a marxist upbringing, my student years are about the basis, the superstructure of the doctrine, which is also by the way , no one said that it is incorrect as long as there are economic prerequisites for stealing, as zhelezyak himself told when the customs officer in odesa was open the text says we will steal because there is an opportunity not to steal, so as long as there are economic restructurings of beauty, it means that until then they will be no matter how honest and unscrupulous they are put there, the system will eventually break everyone because from our point of view, until we change the situation on this three positions

will be of no use to you and i. i hope that these three positions will also be discussed at the nearest forum where you will speak and it will find the understanding of the representatives of the authorities and we will implement the necessary reforms, what will you do, mr. mykhailo thank you very much for the conversation mykhailo neprian, the first vice-president of the chamber of industry of ukraine was with us today, and we're going to take a short break and come back to the interview mr. yermak gave to the travel blogger dmytro komarovo. and let's talk about the deputy trubytsena, who changes cars like socks, i will talk about the appointment of mr. kiper, the odious politician of yanukovych's time, who is polished again, he will now lead the odesa military military

administration, that's right, i didn't do anything stupid well, he will lead the administration. president zelensky didn’t even spare his time to bring him and introduce him to the whole team. so i understand that the person is attentive. well, listen, before that he was an assistant to yarmak, i didn’t understand at all why he was appointed to the odesa region that because klitschko, this scoundrel , does not want to leave his position, the hook is out of here, the keeper is normal, it is not too much, i wonder if dmytro komarov also asked about the keeper in the interview with viktor bondarenko, we will talk about that talk by the way yarmak you are a good skipper how are you on the yacht walk what's up there what's the left right time we'll come back a little further humer nasal spray 25% in pharmacies traveler you

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of commemoration of the children who died as a result of the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine , we are returning to the air and will be with us now viktor bondarenko, an expert from the bureau of analysis and politics, with whom we will talk about uh , there are a lot of political scandals that have arisen this week. i agree on a taboo on criticism. but nevertheless, we have to talk about some painful issues in a different way. otherwise, we will turn into russia . by the way, what i will add yesterday was included in us

, see marshal of the polish diet , mr. kaminsky. very good phrase that in poland we have politicians who are completely catholic and speak polish, but at the same time they can be absolutely pro-russian, even this is not even claiming that they are not pro-russian, but the very way of such anti-european and anti-liberal views makes the politician similar to pro-russian politics by the way, i think that we may also have such a paradoxical situation that those politicians who are now successfully learning the ukrainian language because it is a new trend, at the same time they do not teach ukrainian and european values it is also important to understand that language is very important , but it does not automatically make a person ukrainian or european . so, viktor bondarenko, we are adding him to our air, mr. viktor. we congratulate you

. good health. glory to ukraine . glory to the heroes, mr. viktor. have you seen this interview? which mr. yarmak gave to the travel blogger dmytro komarov. where is he, among other things, to the music , everything is edited so beautifully . i asked him what he was saying. when the elimination will be over, they will know who the main winner is, and since we have a lot of questions hanging over the president's office, especially over the fair, let's just say so

, yes, to which we would like to hear the answer, then they and he is justifying it because of a special submission. that's what they think of you there, and it's not true. well, it's a kind of excuse , because who then played this card with the wagnerites? what did they give the great invasion before the war ? it's scary to think. maybe it's because volodymyr oleksandrovich himself, but most of all we know that well, we definitely have a fact , yes, an indisputable fact, there was a fact of a shower, and then who is bleeding, if not yermak, someone needs to be shown, and there, let's say , there were about a dozen people who were ordained, if on yermak so who, well, don’t remove the question, i think it’s just a question. well, yuriy, because he wrote that simply if there was a professional journalist, a journalist who is a political journalist, he’s not afraid

to ask guests questions, well , ms. yarmak simply won’t go to him because they could go there the questions would be phrased differently, for example, why did you uh-uh slobber, for example, demchenko on the intelligence committee, who then completely failed this whole story well, just like som- acute questions, well, actually uh-uh, it’s just uh-uh their uh-uh tactics yes, he is in the information field in the information policy in the information field, their tactics just like that, he takes a warm bath for himself so that it is comfortable to invite his zara to think about the question and then he seems to ask the question out of the blue, but hey, i myself played kvn and i know that the main thing is kvniv rule if e is the best improvisation and there is such a competition of improvisation, if there is that they come up with everything on the go, and

in fact it is if he is rehearsed 10 times in the evening, you know, then that's when he brought if so the doctor prescribed up to 100 and they uh on this card of theirs and they work, that is, they take only comfortable journalists, uncomfortable ones do not work . well, they distort the information field, and it turns out that the agenda for tomorrow is being formed today in the president's office, whether or not we discuss it with you, why. because they made such skit, but we are already reacting to it, and it is doing so if, well, if i were in the war, then i would say that this is a strategic initiative, yes, there is someone who has a strategic initiative, he actually advances, so the office of the president always advances, now they have such a kind of cavalry, yes. to make themselves such an attractive image, so that later they would remember that the winner was not the hard-working, but the strength, not

the ukrainian people, the ukrainian volunteers, but aristovych irmak won. well, okay, the appointment of a new head was the administration of the odesa goalkeeper , a person who is very difficult, let's go to the background let's remember the polished one should have been the deputy of the former prosecutor general of pshonka during the revolution of dignity a-a s- a man whose woman is still with a russian passport, well , at least as of the spring of this year , journalists and taxpayers checked the man who went to new year's this cube somewhere in us foreign seas for a 10-day vacation because at this time when uh, well , the word is like that, that’s the story. why put such a person as the head of the regional state administration in odesa and even go to present it to

our president zelensky? well, that’s it. toxic character , i still don't understand something, so i can't understand because this is, well, this is some - this is barbarism, this is an affirmation of partners, we are now fighting for european values, in europe there is such a concept as reputation. there is no and it is possible there like a moose as much as you like and they don't answer when kosiak nakasyak yes and the fact that he was in the millet team, in general, it is necessary to put a cross on his career forever, but from the drawer with mothballs they take out such heroes of ours, then they shake them off i drink this from them yanukovych is being put on display they say look at this new thing there, this is new again well, we have already had our fill of her, and it is so surprising because it is not only us and you who are cutting it at jesus, yes

, we also have partners and you are already thinking something, what is going on in the embassies in our seven main embassies, in general, there are more than 70 ambassadors, fools are always sitting there, well, no, no, but in the meantime , we see and hear such things every day. they will take it out and show it again to deal with the personnel issue volodymyr oleksandrovych, but actually it's not his, it's andriy yarmak's very bad , you know i just remembered the phrase that it's been a year since yevgeny of bystrica , a ukrainian philosopher and an activist of civil society, headed by the renaissance foundation yes, i understood, wrote such a column a year ago, who said that we have like two presidents, there is one who is super, we applaud him, he is super in the external

arena, he is really nice, such a guy who convinces everyone, ignites and does not allow to reduce support of ukraine, and there is one for internal use, a little young yanukovych well, and he said that it is very important for us to reconcile these two grievances. well , how can we reconcile them? politics only because he was yarmak's assistant, as i understand it, is it because of yarmak that a career is now being made well, yes, of course, the role of volodymyr zelenskyi is just reduced to the fact that he is... who is zelensky zelenskyy is a person who e to e-e election of his na

the position of the president was considered by comedians, but now he realized that he is also cool in the field of traffic, x found out that this is the main role in life and he plays this tragic role of the leader of the nation that fights and that is why he is applauded for that that he can be read with a prompter. well, he just does it very well, you can’t say anything here , but yermak really runs the country, and if he is not a traitor, what kind of fsb agent is he, well, but we still demand an answer, but who then? and the fair is like that the feeling that he is mocking the ukrainian people who are fighting, mocking the allies, showing that, well, the people guard is also a kalorin postulate . yes, there is such a thing as the title of khava - it is a joke or not. anyway, they will be chosen, which will still be as they want, and that's why they choose

people who are convenient, and we can only talk there, how do they like them, when they send this keeper to odesa , they will order him back to give something to the office or when they will be there some subsidies transfer to odesa for reconstruction in odesa oblast, what will be the refunds, what will there be, how will they choose the principle of selecting contractors and many millions, many millions of contracts, who will take these contracts, and will this office of the president be interfered with about kyril tymoshenko we know exactly what it was kyril tymoshenko yarmak has moved now yarmak yermak has left to move only for alkaline and so in general there is zelensky and there is his main favorite yermak and all the objective reality that

we have to reckon with is an expert environment but the allies must also be taken into account, because the reality is like this, but we are not satisfied. i am not satisfied with yarmak. i think that many people in embassies and in the governments of various countries yermak is also not satisfied with figures at least, well, at least without a reputation, but yarmak finally said that if i i wouldn't be like that, you are the kind of person who inspires trust, so would you meet with me at the highest level, all the representatives of all states and really a person . by the way, i did not understand the status even here . say yes you do you understand, what did you meet with putin, uh, when it was with hitler, you met enough , what kind of dispute did you have? yes, you also met with lukashenka , and everyone knew that putin uh-uh is uh-uh, but they met, well, yes, because it had to be, because he all-

after all, the head of the state is also there, everyone knows with a glance that in reality the country has a law firm, but they meet with them, but it is not a fact that afterwards they do not wipe their hands for a long time somewhere on it, not on themselves, or they wash their hands because they have the impression that you are for something slippery such and nasty things happened with him, if a fragment of a broom, his last name is tatarov, and with tatarov is connected to one such character whose last name is not a trumpet, it is not a member of the kyiv city council from a servant of the people who found himself abroad, drove his mercedes and was sent , well, that is, to let the newcomer go, this is an important moment, do not insult the person, she went spontaneously and not just like that, allegedly for to bring good help and for him they asked eh specially in budanov eh actually here is this

mr. trubi it’s not a word here people say what are we what are you talking about this have we already finished the war but simply that’s why some people they can safely travel abroad, moreover, he is involved in corruption schemes in another and does not appear now , as a result, he is called and left three days before the decision, i say you have a website and a higher bucks for his possible detention, so i understand that he he won't come back with the humanitarian aid for which he was released there, well, it's obvious that he won't come back, it's obvious that they may have angered tatarova, that tatarov set it all up. and you know that, the office of the president very often plays a game in our country, not a day without a complaint, it's called thunder, really they don't play this game for a day. well, then it's clear, because it's different there, well, it seems

like how much more patience will they have there ? it's just that our patience is rocking. well , i don't know. well, it's something scary and sad , but it drop by drop, yes, if the plateau falls into a glass and a glass that this patience is filled and sooner or later it will overflow and eh, like back then in the month of february when eh allies demanded that yes we will give you leopards eh but we have to remove at least to clean someone there, and then this one took off kyril tymoshenko, but sooner or later, strangers will ask for yarmak there, if not during the war, then there will definitely be personnel issues, as we had during poroshenko's time of reforms, in exchange for money. yes, it will be like that now

personnel decisions in exchange for money, do you want money, accept some kind of scanner decision, well, move this figure, how toxic is it, how much is it, how much does it annoy people, society, that it is simply impossible to convey the words to viktor thank you viktor bondarenko, expert of the bureau of analysis and policy was with us as a guest. thank you to our viewers for being with us today for six hours . thank you for being with us for a week. andriy saichuk and lesya vakulyuk worked for you . we 'll be back in a week. the freshest new things happened there iro you have a word thank you lesya i wish you a nice evening today to relax after such a busy week of work and i will tell you about the most important