[000:00:00;00] anyway, what is happening in belohorodsk? tell us what? well, what? what is going on now? what is the special military operation going on ? how did i even say the counter-terrorist operation that was announced by the governor of belohorodsk? we are there and we are carrying it out there. the legion of freedom, and certain others groups that are already ready to oppose putin's regime. what other groups are there? there are two divisions, and the first one is the legion of freedom of russia, and the second one is the russian volunteer corps, these two groups are working there. their e-e is common

the operation was already there last week, before that they fought separately eh the region was under bakhmut and rdaka carried out orders there on the cut sections of the front and tell me, in your opinion, what is the real public resonance from what is happening in belgorod oblast from this attack drones in moscow, what do the russian population think when i don't meet them? i think that the population here doesn't think much because they simply don't know what's going on, well, in order to think about it, it needs to be proven on the television , there's something printed in the newspapers there and if this doesn't happen, then how come he doesn't know about it, but right now the main question is how the elites perceive it, and the elites usually understand that well, putin cannot protect the russian land, the russian territory, that this is

, well, a new stage of the war and here is this attack on moscow and here are these events in belgorod region, this means that the war is getting hotter and that something needs to be done about it. i think that this is how she feels about it, well , russian propagandists show what is happening, but it they are twisting it so that it is the ukrainians who are shelling well, let it be russian the population does not know that it is a partisan movement. and i think it is ukrainians, but they are not afraid that the war is spreading to their territory, that drones are flying to moscow, well, look, first of all, it is indifferent to the russians crossed there . are they ukrainians? are they russians? because if something happens and the war is already on our territory, well, that's very bad. this determines that the commander-in-chief fulfills his duties and that all this so-called swa went

somewhere there, it's not like that at all, and secondly, the elites they know the truth and well, okay, there they are, probably part thinks that these are ukrainians well, even if it is a ukrainian, it is even worse because ukraine has a powerful army and if ukraine has decided for itself that it enters the territory of russia, then it should already be expected in moscow, if it is russian partisans there, it is not so bad because it was there, how will it still happen there, it’s small and still different , and thirdly, well, now there are many different positional media there, and it’s just that there are telegram channels, they spread information about what it is uh, there are russian uh, there are

military russian rebels, and if that's the case then a new gray-haired one will join them and i think their power will grow and in fact we are very much looking forward to it. to what extent do you think russia might be ready for some negotiations with ukraine in the event of a military offensive because many people in ukraine say and repeatedly that we will talk with russia, when will we liberate our territories, when there will be no russian troops on ukrainian soil, but to what extent do you think putin's russia is ready for such and such a development of events, in general, for negotiations with kyiv, see vitaly, this is first said russia and then putin said abbreviated president of russia look there it is written there will be a victory no, just negotiations with putin's russia are impossible, negotiations with putin well , it's just that it's impossible because uh, if he

starts there uh, admit that it's not, that there's no victory then he loses power simply automatically and he himself will treat it like hitler during world war ii, when the troops are already in berlin, he says everything about what is going on in the union now, so it is already clear there i will argue with each other there in the interview and all the rest of putin will be the same, but i believe that he simply will not survive until then. i believe that when the ukrainian army will actually be in crimea and even the russian elite will begin to move with them and something will happen there in moscow, and if they don't do it, then our partisans will do it, but the russian opposition is preparing for the moment and

is considering some options, what to do if this moment comes that putin is there, i don't know, will they remove him or something, some kind of coup will happen, although it is now as if sounds fantastic, but if there is a russian opposition such as the legion that is fighting, that is, it is not saving itself, it is just doing it , and of course there are certain opinions about what will happen after we win , and there are also other appeal groups that support it this struggle is like there , for example, there is a congress of people's deputies, then i am. well, he is ready to change the situation inside russia together with the legion, and there is another russian opposition, like there, sitting in various european capitals, and

they they are just waiting for the ukrainian one the army will win and when the west will tell the next russian government there . and what, we want them to be included there as well . well, they too. that's how i remember it, but they are waiting , as far as i remember the history of the february revolution, the october coup to power in to russia, like the great-grandfather, these people came who sat in coffee shops in switzerland, drank cocoa and waited. you can identify them from the list of permanent residents of switzerland, starting with vladimir lenin and ending with the last minister of narcotics in his government. well, look, i disagree with this, because these are people they are very active fought there during the revolution of 905, they took the most radical position from the point of view of the war, their people there fought at the front and did everything possible to make the army fall apart, as we remember that

we will turn the imperialist war there on the civil side, yes, that is, they worked on these things and they didn't just wait, they waited for the opportunity to lead all this and waited. and from the point of view of these people who are now in the same places, they just they don't do anything, they just write on facebook about the refrigerator, they didn't even fight in general, they say that there is an armed position, that it is possible, that it is bad, uh, they deny even its existence, no, that they are not ready to help support just rowing , neither the ukrainian army, nor the russians themselves , and what do you think, do you have insider information like putin doesn't feel well, even in terms of his health. and does he have this hysteria that is written about because of the fact that the war is spreading through russian territory

, drones are flying over the ruble? well, as far as i understand his psychology in general, i can't to say that he was talked to many times there, but when i talked and what i know about him in general from mutual friends there, eh, that he is such a very gambling player , eh, and precisely because they will admit eh defeat, and that's on better in if he realized now that everything there is a final defeat , after all, he could have used nuclear weapons there, but no, he will play to the end and i think that his environment - he understands this very well and exactly therefore , in the end, they will do something to keep him there finish and tell me, what do you really think

are the real relations between all these pseudo-elites, between kadyrov's parishioners, between prigozhynny and shaygu, are they really conflicts or just clowning so common for the royal court ? the history of the moscow principality no, these are indeed conflicts and this is a very severe conflict. and this is a conflict that is even artificially ignited by putin himself, and he does everything for it to exist, because for him it is er, there is security when his followers argue with each other er, they argue not with him and fight not with him, and it is very useful for him when there is a handsome man criticizing the puck , then putin can throw what he presented and what

it will er move a little faster er, that is, this system of balances well, a normal democratic system, everything is fast there, and counterbalances, well, it is built into the constitution, it is built into the political mechanism in general, and in russia yeltsin does not exist there yet, er, all this he destroyed it, he did not need it counterweights, he should have been a self-made man himself . well, putin creates because of these controversies in his environment, so that they actually exist, of course, 100%. thank you, ilya ponomaryov is not russian, the patient is a former deputy of the state duma of the russian federation and we will be back literally in a few moments there are discounts on citramon pills darnytsia 10% in pharmacies traveller, you and save pain can become an obstacle walking up the stairs not with my

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a structure that in nato is trying to preserve peace and please the local albanians and serbs, and i think that little by little it is becoming clear that not it is possible to be good for all sides, somehow it looks like this, and in principle , the fact that turkish troops are now entering kosovo is also an attempt to delegate erdoğan's responsibility for this situation. well , you know that erdoğan positions himself as a leader who is very influential in the region of the former yugoslavia, for example, in the conflict in bosnia, the bosnian leaders are very oriented and take erdoğan's opinion into account . probably, now nato has decided that

the kosovar albanians are too. so we will return to ms. natalie. they will probably re-recruit her i, vitaliy, then i will ask, after all, the president of france, monol macron , and the chancellor of germany, lavshol, called for new municipal elections, essentially re-elections in kosovo, in order to get out of this conflict . do you think this will solve the situation or in in principle, it did not even begin with this, you understand the problem is that in order for all this to be normal there must be good will of the parties to real agreements in belgorodka there is no such goodwill if serbia wanted some kind of settlement, then it is the bosnian saves , the kosovo server they would go to the electoral divisions but it would be just to show that the kosovars don't want peace. you see. we want to have fair elections, but instead they impose eh on people who are not elected in me. this is

also a serious problem, as a result, we see a situation when after that nato is forced to close it with troops, this is a conflict, and natalia, you know, it seems to me that one simple thing is also very important that while the capitals of the countries that are not in power realize that serbia simply, well, will not go, there is no real settlement of kosovo until then in time it will all look like this, you know, because it’s like serbia now, like with russia, you know , everyone closes their eyes to the obvious desire of belgrade to disrupt the real settlement of the situation and instead demand from kosovo that they make some more concessions, well, they will concessions for a penny. the very idea of ​​this association of serbian policemen. kosovo is the same as the dpr of the lpr. they wanted to make there and they want these very agreements that

were originally. well, first kosovo was imposed on these autonomous , autonomous serbian regions. in fact, this is a region with a special status for serbs and it was the minsk agreements that became a copy of these brussels agreements between the city of belgrade, we did not have the minsk agreements , this association of municipalities, we will have all separate districts, and there they proposed these to unite the regions into these integral formations is even much worse, but the idea is the same that there should be some region with a special status, and in fact, although legally it would remain part of kosovo, but in fact everyone understands that this region was simply given to serbia in why did it make sense and they could go separately or in the whole seven regions, but the main thing is that

these northern municipalities were simply given to serbia, and now the serbs are fighting for this very reason in order to de facto maintain control over the north in kosovo, and they i will understand will now go to the end and not make any compromises , but on the other hand, they came to, they are also not going to make any compromises and give part of their territory to serbia, well, a partially recognized state is still not completely unrecognized, and i think that it will find allies in order to advance your own position well, for now, unfortunately, unfortunately, i see that even the united states is still trying to put pressure on.

and you know, i see that after all they pressed pristina and they want to make concessions now, they already agree to hold new elections , that is, they de facto admit that there are problems with the relegitimization of these albanian meters that were elected in the north of kosovo, nevertheless it is clear that they are still trying to preserve their reluctance to create an association of serbian municipalities, and i think that there will be a new round of negotiations, brussels , washington will join in, and this attempt to drag things to a new level will reach a new level. recognition of the fact that serbia is never going to recognize the independence of kosovo, that is, normalization. well, it is also taking time and does not want to normalize anything. for me, this is

such a politically incorrect thought. in general, i think that maybe we are exaggerating the importance of borders in the former socialist republics, in particular in his slavik, well, we we all understand among ourselves that these are conditional borders well, how did stalin lead them or how did the marshals lead them, that’s how it all looks and very often happened when representatives of the same people appeared on the territory that was titularly given to the other, here is kosovo and serbia, the situation is very similar in the former autonomy of kosovo, there are people, there are regions where only serbs live, and in serbia itself there are areas where mostly albanians live on the border with kosovo, because there and how to get out of this is absolutely unclear but when there was an oral settlement, the bosnian serbs absolutely calmly gave up these regions from where they apologized and expelled the muslims by the croats , but they simply expelled them and in these regions, which they cleared of the croats and muslims, they were allowed to do it absolutely calmly

the republic of serbia and it somehow works badly for him but nevertheless they allowed to end this war and legitimize state atrocities and in er wanted so that's by the way too what are you talking about this is not a theory in practice there were plans to exchange territories that kosovo gives the north and serbia gives up the bresevo valley, and in this way the conflict is settled through the exchange of territories, and it is even alleged that such a plan has already been written, the authorship of which is attributed to orban, the hungarian leader , but he allegedly presented it to brussels officially janish jansha when he was the prime minister of slavia koniv na e in the former yugoslavia no and this one was not accepted although according to unofficial

data it was precisely kosovo's then leaders then it was khasinta or allegedly he agreed to such an option they will be like this by the accusations of the president of serbia, i mean the prime minister of kosovo directly, and kurti by the accusations of shifting in one direction and then the other, after all , will nato be able to play a role here ? this will end. well, you know, the problem is that here is the juggling of accusations. kortov accused the serbs of being fascists, and instead accused the serbs of being fascists, knowing that he is like zelensky, well, that is, such a somewhat strange accusation. well, i think that few people understand

what he had on attention teaches but nevertheless, yes, this will continue, this is such a balkan tradition. i see that everyone is used to accusing each other, and yes, this will continue. but nevertheless, they will sit down at the same table to continue negotiations and will try to demonstrate brussels, washington, that after all they are all interested in peace and friendship, i think that you and i understand, natalya, why i mean the teacher in the jacket is mocking kosovo just as zelensky is mocking the russian-speaking population of donbas well, what is this saying here, this is their position, this is that that propaganda officially always repeats in belgorod, it simply broke out, as a rule, the teacher tries to restrain himself, but not now. the situation when you can restrain yourself. i think that this also says a lot , by the way.

president of kosovo osmani at this meeting in the bubble in moldova, how can relations between ukraine and serbia change in general ukraine kosovo kosovo is still not recognized by ukraine as an independent state well, i do not think that in this situation ukraine will recognize kosovo. you already understand that this is a very serious step, and ukraine was categorically against it before. you know the official position now, at least the softening of informal relations, so to speak, because before it was difficult to imagine that the president of ukraine would meet even in an informal the president of kosovo, well, it happened. i think that it is possible that some unofficial relations will develop as far as serbia is concerned, you know , anyway, ukraine is trying to position serbia as a non-enemy country, well , at least not an enemy country and, for example

, the embassy there. well, so that you understand one of the latest statements of the embassy that soon between, well, soon, an agreement on free trade between ukraine will be signed arbin i don't know why such statements are made, but obviously in order to somehow appease the serbian side well, that is, the position after all still keep serbia as such well, not hostile, as i said, the country. and you can explain how you simultaneously improve relations between serbia, albania, serbia, albania, and even join this cross-border project between them, there are no borders with the m. not many. who knows , but between serbia and northern albania macedonia simply does not have a state border, they have such a schengen between themselves, a mini schengen of the balkans, and together with this, such a confrontation with

kos is not yet there. which albania also said, and i can say that this is a part of the so-called berlin process, which was initiated by angela merkel and in berlin it was precisely positioned that there will be no borders in the economic sense, not in the political sense, as well as integration for the future european integration a-a. i think that in the near future , montenegro will join this union, so to speak, because the current government is somehow very positively commenting on the outkosa categorically against it, and i think that, apart from everything else , there will be more pressuring brussels to join this union is just that

, you know, the european integration chip, and it really benefits , well, at least that's what the albanian leadership says , in order to facilitate the movement of goods, finances, people, services across the border, and it gives supposedly economic benefits benefits in every albanian there north macedonians or the same serbs at least that's what they say well, they don't want kosovo because of political reasons and montenegro didn't want it before because of political reasons too thank you very much ladies natalich joined our eten nataliya ishchenko, head of the balkan