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[000:00:00;00] because of the situation we have today, it seems to me that there is more of a problem here, of course they will continue to tell us that the ukrainians are there, the nazis are there and so on. but again, any mention of this incident is still hmm, well, additional evidence , brightness, uh, bright evidence of such weakness, according to the weakness of putin himself and his regime, so yes, they can try, but again, they are not like that because putin said that any threat to the territory of the russian federation will necessarily be accompanied by such a symmetrical response not symmetrical, but with some rather serious answer well, but so far we see confusion confusion and the lack of an adequate response to this challenge on the part of the russian authorities and this is how
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the russian mass media today explain to their zombified population everything that happens in shibekino, well, look on the one hand as maksym said yes . they are trying to demonstrate about it , it means typical. look at these nazis. you already come here and try to realize the population. there is a threat and so on, but on the other hand, they still try to minimize and comment on it. of course, in the situation of the information society, where there are many publics, including telegram channels, and so on, it is difficult to do, but in any case for them this is a losing situation because the reaction is accordingly bad, any mention is once again a confirmation of this weakness. well, let them tell us that we need to mobilize, the russians already know what needs to be done, and now, as we see, the russians do not the russians go to the military commissions, they do not ask the authorities to provide them with weapons in order to act against
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those soldiers who are now in the relevant territory, they calmly get into the car, run away and leave, and so on , plus the situation with looting. buryats who serve in the russian army or there are some other people who lived there, they just rob the houses left by the russians, that is, the russians rob the russians. we wondered what they were doing, respectively in ukraine, it turns out that there is nothing to be surprised about, they simply even do it accordingly with their own citizens, therefore, in any case, again , this situation is a loss for them, and a plus. we must understand that this situation is from a military point of view. i, again, do not a military expert, but these are obvious things, it is important, especially in the situation of a counteroffensive, that is, that it is impossible to ignore this situation, and in order to, well, as the russians say, copy this
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situation, it is necessary to throw in dateless parts from those directions where they are currently being used on the front line, and therefore this is a huge problem and, accordingly, a huge challenge, so i would absolutely not be afraid that russia will try or already try to use this situation . which parties if we didn't look at it let's continue in russia the conflict between prigozhin and the kaderites continues , despite the fact that their leaders from the largest russian criminal groups are publicly trying to silence the scandal that broke out the other day, everyone saw the evidence of discord within putin's bandit circles, the dictator does not control his subordinates, and subordinates are unable to share a piece of power. let us remind you that the day before, state duma deputy adam delimpkhanov , who is a subordinate of ramzan kadyrov, decided to find out the relationship with the owner of wagner pvk in the style of the 90s. - but on the internet, well, in
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the public space, it can even be considered that the chechens from the akhmat unit criticized prigozhin after his words to the kadel battalion and offered to resolve the issue face-to-face. this proposal the wagnerite rejected and before that he was brought to state that the people of akhmat, unlike the people of kader, i quote, it is not clear what they are doing in donbas, now the picture of how a frog bites, let's call it a viper, in russia they are trying to paint it with other colors, pretending that the situation is supposedly under control, mr. igor, well, in your opinion, what is the main cause of this conflict and actually what it can lead to, well, look , i have not yet said that there is already power there in sundays and so on.
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he voices, let's say, those things that many russians do not speak like that, but he plays the standard game, this is the king, the good boyars , respectively, well, bad, he says, what does he mean , bad, shoigu, bad, gerasimov, kadyrov, it is possible, bad, akhmatov, everything is bad, and so on, there are too many to list that they are all visible, of course, the vc in agro is doing well and we have the results, all the others do not, although, well, again, it is absolutely stupid , because it took 11 months to take the city and not take it, but simply declare it there when you were like, everyone closed their eyes and said, well, okay, no, that's why it's absolutely not the result, that's why he's just playing into this situation, they thus channel the moods that exist, that is, they can't do it through the media, because then it will destroy accordingly propaganda but they can, because of such a handsome man, give him the opportunity to go somewhere there to speak there, he meets with journalists accordingly, and so on. so the journalists in one of the videos rightly asked him what if we
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if they said what you would say, then we would be there for 10 years or several times for 10 years , respectively, why are you doing it? well, he began to tell the fat man that he is not afraid of death and so on, but in my opinion well, for sure prigozhin is not in this case on his own, yes, maybe he has political ambitions and so on, but in this case, he simply plays a certain role, a role according to which putin himself prescribes for him, of course , the situation may become uncontrollable in my case, we are counting on it. well , but in this case, i didn't bet on it. and this one the story can end with the victory of one of these characters. yes, no, i think that it will be like this, you know, verbal sparring, again, in order to somehow distract the situation from the russians and give them the opportunity to let off steam a little, because they empathize, someone is rooting for akhmat here is rooting for the victim, you know, it’s such a virtual fight, when they get
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some kind of satisfaction there, it’s clear, that is, not the musketeers, er, lentil, thank you. thank you , mr. igor, for joining our broadcast of the games petrenko, a political scientist, was a marathon, the only news was how ukraine will return children kidnapped by russia, which of the partners will help in this and what steps have already been taken, as well as whether it will be possible to punish the illegal deportation of ukrainian children from the temporarily occupied territories, my colleague hanna talked about it with the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada, oleksandr kornienko , mr. oleksandr, today is the case of the deportation of ukrainian children from the point of view of parliamentary diplomacy, yes. well, we understand
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that first of all, we need to understand the ultimate goal uh, from the point of view, practically, this is the return of all deported ukrainian children home, from the legal point of view, we understand that in the end, we very much hope that the special international military tribunal regarding the crimes of the russian federation against ukraine will recognize what the russian federation is doing in ukraine as genocide, we understand that directly in the convention on genocide, one of the points states that this is the transfer of children from one group to another . that is, it is a clear sign of genocide, of course we have to legally prove it. now we are working over these two directions regarding the direction of the return of children. of course, this is the adoption of a numerical low resolution starting from the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe and then the resolutions of the countries of poland. the upper house of the french parliament will soon join the icelandic parliament and so on. organizations of other
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parliaments of the world regarding the issue of the deportation of ukrainian children, on the other hand, this is work on gathering evidence and what our the prosecutor general's office, together with the international criminal court, in order to record all these crimes and give them the necessary course , the verkhovna rada, of course, works closely with the ombudsman's office, with the ombudsman's office, with the prosecutor general's office, we provide all the necessary quick solutions, quick laws, if there are still any necessary well, of course , we use all the possibilities of parliamentary diplomacy, hundreds of meetings are held, i alone have held more than 40 or 60 meetings over the past year, and at each meeting we report this to colleagues from the parliament in various countries not only of our allies who understood that they already support us in this, but also of neutral countries and also of countries that, for example, do not support ukraine and we tell them these terrible terrible stories and of course a lot of them agree that this well,
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one criminal court should be stopped and actually she did not see this case in terms of scale and complexity, that is, in fact, in which we are now involved in the legal, political or diplomatic , well, at all costs, because legally there is a component of gathering evidence and determining simply even compiling some specific register about what today the president correctly noted that we do not understand this number, you understand approximately but we are working to understand it, of course, the diplomatic component is difficult because as we see, the russian federation does not just recognize this fact, it also tolerates it, some kind of state policy says to a certain we will take these children there this butchman of theirs is a child meeting with putin , he says that i myself adopted someone, well, this is just a horror , and of course in such a case it is difficult for you to exert diplomatic pressure. there are certain
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problems in this regard, but we will this coalition to increase our pa what do you hear today in general from the leaders of other countries from your colleagues in the parliaments of the world in general today the world understands all the barbarism of this matter the world is beginning to understand more and more the world is beginning to understand some let's say this details that are revealed with each subsequent case with each freed there by the territory with each subsequent stage of the war yes there for some it was uh raisin yes for some it was bucha for some raisin for some kherson for some arrived these cities also help a lot to understand something about de-occupation territories when there are mass burials when there are mass places of torture when cases of sexual violence are recorded and against children in particular it was very important for someone to understand that russia continues missile terror
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it does not stop still missile attacks have been happening in ukraine for the last month yes that is, in this illusion about what is there it is possible to come to an agreement with russia to calm it down, they have long failed to reach all developed countries , of course we have to fight for the attention of the countries of the global cock, which currently occupy such a neutral position in principle in the majority yes, but the diplomatic process has already started, the president of the country, volodymyr zelenskyi, met with his visavi from india, for example, this is a very important step, and i think that we will continue with the chinese, yes, there was a conversation with the leader, that is, i think that increasingly we will draw the attention of most of the countries of the world to ukraine, to call the moment, that is in your discussions, what is the main argument, if we talk about the warrant of the international criminal court for the arrest of putin, how much has this become a valid argument today, and do the leaders of other
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countries hear you, or has it changed their opinion about putin especially those who were in some way sympathetic to him and remain well, of course, this is tsarina's personal preferences, this is not my policy here , everyone can choose their own warrant , finally, the international criminal court, this is an important step, an important, important part on this path , because we understand that for those of countries that recognize the jurisdiction of the international criminal court, putin is actually not allowed to enter , now we see this, well, if the history is so incomprehensible, drawn out by south africa, which is trying in various ways to understand what its yes, it is a partner of the constitution, yes, part of bricks, but now they are in such a situation, even when they are forced, it is not so simple. this is, of course, a very serious step for those countries that hesitated, yes, or that thought it was possible to remain neutral or
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even support russia secretly there somehow, yes, they understand that you already become just companions and just some er under er those who support a person who is already proud of the international criminal court yes that is, he is already a criminal in less than five minutes in fact yes that's why there is a question yes and i i think that in the future, more countries will side with ukraine in this component of legal and diplomatic work , oleksandr, returning to the topic of children, today in the parliament there are legislative initiatives that specifically concern the protection of our children and their lives in the new realities of wartime, we are always working on certain improvements point by point, they were collected into one of the laws that the verkhovna rada has already voted on
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. communities in certain situations recently adopted such a resolution in march, it seems... if we talk about something more broadly, then of course we also pay attention to this issue of education, and a lot of important current initiatives were... in the last six months, even in the verkhovna rada announced the proclamation of this and testing this year so that children can speak for this and certain reforms in the field of education, thank you for the conversation, let's take a shot, there is gerasymchuk, an authorized adviser to the president of ukraine and on the rights
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of the child and child rehabilitation, also answered to the question of my colleague hanna homonai, so i ask you to review what figure we use today, how many of our children were taken away by the occupiers and how many we have already managed to return, if we are talking about statistics, we should talk about a few figures that are on the children of war portal. this is the only informational state platform, you can see at least two numbers, we are talking about the number that the russian authorities voice in their media open sources, and this number sounds like 744,000 allegedly evacuated ukrainian children, russian the authorities present the figure as exactly calling it an evacuation and as a very charitable noble deed and the rescue of ukrainian children of course this figure is not reported by any lists of children's personal data so a-a neither the ukrainian side nor any international structures or organizations nor third countries russia does not confirm this figure can we trust her most likely? no, we don't trust her because, according to our data , there simply could not be such a large number
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of children in the temporarily occupied territories at that time, so that they could have taken them out, according to our data, we may be talking about 200-300,000 ukrainian children who could have been used by the russians , although on the portal you will see a figure of a little more than 19,000,400 children, these are children who make up the register with personal data, the register of deported and forcibly displaced children who are made up the fact of applications to the national information bureau by parents , relatives, witnesses or representatives of local authorities who became aware of the fact of deportation. how do you collect information about the whereabouts of children and, most importantly, in which unfortunately, this is the most difficult part of this work, because if we knew where the children are, it would be much easier to return them . to this day, we do not know the whereabouts of the child, only then if the child finds an opportunity to inform the ukrainian side and his relatives where they are . it is easier to find them
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today, we can definitely say that the russians prevent all kinds of contact of children with their biological families on the territory of ukraine , they immediately take away all children's mobile phones the phones of those children who went to the alleged holiday camps in russia have mobile phones. who had them? but this also does not help because communication is quite limited and the children are constantly being moved. so where exactly are the children? children that you managed to investigate. and at the moment we can analyze only those cases, it would be most useful those cases of children that we have already managed to return to date, that is 371 children, so after analyzing these cases, we can clearly say that there are at least five scenarios and already the sixth scenario. well, we practically investigated , that is, it is still undergoing research, uh, that is
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, the russians kidnap children, separating them from their parents during filtering, first killing the parents, then kidnapping the children and taking the children directly from their biological parents or other relatives, depriving them of their parental rights, taking out institutions of institutional care completely, and not allowing ukraine to take these children, but creating completely unsuitable for living in conditions for children in the occupied territories and then forcing the parents to send the child to russian camps for so-called rehabilitation or to camps in the temporarily occupied territory , for example to crimea. and the sixth scenario that i mentioned today. we already see that there are cases when the russians carry out so-called forced medical examinations in the temporarily occupied territory, and so a perfectly healthy child suddenly has some diagnosis that requires treatment or rehabilitation in the russian federation. in this way , the russians even select children whose they want to take back these children whom you managed to return, what do they say after
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their return? and all the children are of course very happy that they are finally on ukrainian soil , this is the first time , of course. they experienced in the russian federation, this is total russification absolutely immediately to them, and every day they talked about the fact that their families do not need them, they do not need to call anyone , they do not need to inform anyone. they remain in russia forever in they will have a foster family, they will be adopted, and it will remain like that forever, the russian national anthem will force them to stand up during the russian national anthem, every morning of the children in the camps began with the song russia forward, and they were punished for refusing to speak russian , stand up during the national anthem, sing this anthem and they were punished, their food was taken from them, for example, for a day or two, they were locked up in an isolation cell for several days, sometimes up to a week, they were deprived of walking on the street, they were constantly psychologically
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humiliated, and sometimes even used physical punishment, beating with sticks and so on. well, we understand that they need help after what they have experienced, what kind of help is given to children after returning, each child must undergo an individual, er, individual assessment of needs, where it is determined whether the child needs treatment what about the psychological state? what level of psychological help does the child need ? i also want to talk to you about those children who lost their parents due to the war, who became orphans, what is happening with these children today, how is their rehabilitation going, including adoption , and what results can you share , of course, it is most important for ukraine to move
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forward to the development of family upbringing, and the president of ukraine from the very beginning said that the priority of the state policy on child protection is precisely the development of the family for the child, every child must have a family, and of course we have war there are even more challenges because more children lose one or both parents, but i want to say that we are taking huge steps to ensure that children live in families and not in institutions of institutional care . care or orphaned children during the war, they were placed in their biological families, although, unfortunately, until now, we are forced to admit that some children are still placed in institutions of institutional care , and i hope that we will be able to correct this if we are talking about adoption, then ukraine has made incredible steps forward, and ukraine is actually a country that, despite
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the fact that during a war in every country , the adoption procedure is stopped, and ukraine, thanks to our ministry of social policy, was able to revive the adoption service during the war and not only that, thanks to cooperation with unicef and the ministry of digital transformation, we were able to launch the full spectrum of adoption services and the candidacy of foster parents in orphanages. of the family type are adoptive families or guardians through the e-e action portal , that is, as of today, the entire package of documents can be generated and submitted through poltavdia, this does not mean that you can adopt a child through the portal, but some of the steps that were difficult to do before can now be done here so many years ahead , we understand that the mental health of our children will be the number one task, considering what they experience every day in ukraine
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, considering the explosions that we have been hearing every day for the last few days. what do you think about the state what level of programs is now important to develop for children precisely in the context of psychological assistance and stabilization , today a very powerful large-scale all-ukrainian program is being developed as a program of mental health of citizens under the patronage of the first lady of ukraine olena zelenska and this program includes care and the creation of a system of care for all citizens of different categories of different ages, including children and teenagers. and i advise everyone to go to the site today and see what hotlines are available, what consultations are already available now, why wait until we will win and then we will go back to restoring our mental health i definitely do not advise especially when it comes to children and those who are conscious adults i hope adults who are close to children because we have to take care of
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ourselves to take care of our children what thank you very much for the conversation. i evacuated people and saved lives, but i did not save my own. police captain serhiy blyzniuk died on march 5, 2022 in irpen. how did it happen ? policeman valery dermandzhieva was such a person. he will tell you . stand here, go home, because i can’t be with you. natalia remembers her last meeting with her husband. it was on the evening of february 24, around 5-6 p.m. when we brought him food. well , that 's all. that i won't go, i asked serhiy, he says to serhiy why you well, this is your family
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and he says how can i go, how can i leave my colleagues here, we have people, children, well, i can't do that, i can't just take and leave since then until march 5 serhiy together with as colleagues, he remained in the station starting at 25. already in the evening, people began to converge in large numbers to the police station. serhiy bliznyuk opened the basement , he also demolished the mattresses, er, those things where you could sit down, even if you sat down. serhiy led people to the basement. they had already moved there and female police officers were there together with people, male police officers had a different task. at that time, the head of the irpen police department made a decision to protect the administrative building and sold it
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the majority of the male personnel was posted on the first floor and on the outside of the building, i.e. on the street. in addition, the police ensured the evacuation of people from the city. so on march 5, serhiy and his partner ruslan set off to carry out the assigned task when the shots were fired. we were here, and the general was also coming. to us since three in the morning, then we were there, i stayed twin here in place we were here let's go in the evening and then we came in the evening the instruction came and we went in the evening to help treat people from the side they are standing, i went behind the house, it turns out, see if there are still people or not when i go outside the house and the task is just leaving , i see that a bmw is leaving the forest and i am in time only they shout something seryoga is a stranger and the shooting starts at us here i would not have run
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to the car the shelling began, very good, and i hid behind the building, and the car burned completely for almost two weeks. ani's colleagues and serhiy's family did not know for sure whether he was alive or not. on march 14, this comrade samis said that he was no longer there, that they had found the car he was in that from serhiy nothing remained, only a fairy tale and humiliated so that everything would burn down. serhii bliznyuk was a real officer. he was always there to help his comrades. he was truly a man with a capital letter. serhii, together with the entire staff, was at the place of duty and was on duty 24 hours a day. and
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performed his official duties on his own . serhiy was very kind, sincere, and always smiling. people came to the police department for help, well, with various problems . so he tried to really help everyone until now. ani is the husband's wife. ani colleagues can't help him because of the loss . the way he worked here and the way he treated his colleagues and people remind us a lot about him. this is not enough, his smile is not enough and he is somehow missing such support , consolation, some joke, even sergey's wife natalya found it very difficult to accept this, it is very painful because sergey himself is an orphan and for
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he is his family, and for her, serhii eh, it was something very strong, very incredible , they loved each other very much at the time of serhiy blyznyuk, near the already rebuilt police station in irpen, they arranged a square with a commemorative plaque valery dermandzhieva maksym maslonikov tv channel rada nationwide marathon united news united news together we are strong armed forces need drones make your contribution scan the qr code we congratulate you united news team works for you tv channel rada we keep our finger on the pulse and summarize the main points for you united news in the center of events congratulations on the 467th day of the full-scale war of russia against ukraine news time on the air of the nationwide marathon my name is olga butko we are starting and
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